Philip Morris International, the world's largest tobacco company, is prepared to sue the British government should it implement a law requiring plain packaging of cigarettes, a document showed. Read full article
They used the same argument in Australia and lost.
The majority judges variously described the case of the tobacco companies as “delusive”, “synthetic”, “unreal”, and suffering “fatal” defects in logic and reasoning.
Why is it that the power-mad morons in government have to try to impose their personal preferences on everyone and everything? It is not a legitimate function of government to manage our lives, businesses, or property, or to protect us from the consequences of our individual bad, or stupid, decisions by forcing their bad and stupid decisions on all of us.
Tobacco companies, like most manufacturers of most products, package their product with the intention of making their particular brands readily identifiable and unique, so that their existing customers, and others who might be inclined to try their product, can distinguish them from numerous similar products. This is part of a campaign to destroy the tobacco industry by death by a thousand cuts, imposing an endless stream of regulations, each making it a bit more difficult and expensive to function. If some people want to use tobacco, and others can make money by supplying this demand, leave them alone; their actions, and whatever results from them are no concern to anyone else.
I usually refer these motions as a pandering to the anti smoking fascists, why not go the whole hog and just ban smoking? Oh they won't because there's too much tax revenue to lose. With no other option of advertising left, especially now supermarkets are not allowed to display the product, I really don't see a need for this. As you said Bisley, Big Brother knows best or so they think.
The Tobacco companies have done manipulated their deadly product for years.
They have increased the addictiveness of the active ingredient.
The brightly coloured packaging and advertising was aimed at attracting younger people. Not to mention advertising which was aimed at increasing the attractiveness of smoking.
When it was discovered that almost all lung cancers develop in people who smoke or who are contaminated with second hand smoke the tobacco companies tried to debunk the science. The science has held up really well and finally Tobacco companies had to admit their product used correctly kills the user and others.
As an aside the same form of criticism of the science that the Tobacco companies used. Is the same form of attack that anti man-made climate change nutters use. They want more experiments or want 100% proof.
Science doesn't give you that but they are great media manipulators (tobacco & anti climate change) and see anything other than 100% as ambiguity.
Alcohol, used in moderation does no harm to you or those around you.
Comparing tobacco with alcohol is not a level playing field.
The banning of Smoking in public building was brilliant, finally can go into pubs and restaurants and smell the beer and or food without the stench. Plus lowering my exposure to toxic chemicals. yay.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThey used the same argument in Australia and lost.
Aug 13th, 2014 - 07:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0The majority judges variously described the case of the tobacco companies as “delusive”, “synthetic”, “unreal”, and suffering “fatal” defects in logic and reasoning.
http://theconversation.com/the-high-court-and-the-marlboro-man-the-plain-packaging-decision-10014
Why is it that the power-mad morons in government have to try to impose their personal preferences on everyone and everything? It is not a legitimate function of government to manage our lives, businesses, or property, or to protect us from the consequences of our individual bad, or stupid, decisions by forcing their bad and stupid decisions on all of us.
Aug 13th, 2014 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tobacco companies, like most manufacturers of most products, package their product with the intention of making their particular brands readily identifiable and unique, so that their existing customers, and others who might be inclined to try their product, can distinguish them from numerous similar products. This is part of a campaign to destroy the tobacco industry by death by a thousand cuts, imposing an endless stream of regulations, each making it a bit more difficult and expensive to function. If some people want to use tobacco, and others can make money by supplying this demand, leave them alone; their actions, and whatever results from them are no concern to anyone else.
I usually refer these motions as a pandering to the anti smoking fascists, why not go the whole hog and just ban smoking? Oh they won't because there's too much tax revenue to lose. With no other option of advertising left, especially now supermarkets are not allowed to display the product, I really don't see a need for this. As you said Bisley, Big Brother knows best or so they think.
Aug 13th, 2014 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would they do the same for alcohol? Probably not.......would be terrible to get the wrong gin in the Friday afternoon G&Ts in the Parliament bar.
Aug 14th, 2014 - 04:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Tobacco companies have done manipulated their deadly product for years.
Aug 14th, 2014 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0They have increased the addictiveness of the active ingredient.
The brightly coloured packaging and advertising was aimed at attracting younger people. Not to mention advertising which was aimed at increasing the attractiveness of smoking.
When it was discovered that almost all lung cancers develop in people who smoke or who are contaminated with second hand smoke the tobacco companies tried to debunk the science. The science has held up really well and finally Tobacco companies had to admit their product used correctly kills the user and others.
As an aside the same form of criticism of the science that the Tobacco companies used. Is the same form of attack that anti man-made climate change nutters use. They want more experiments or want 100% proof.
Science doesn't give you that but they are great media manipulators (tobacco & anti climate change) and see anything other than 100% as ambiguity.
Alcohol, used in moderation does no harm to you or those around you.
Comparing tobacco with alcohol is not a level playing field.
The banning of Smoking in public building was brilliant, finally can go into pubs and restaurants and smell the beer and or food without the stench. Plus lowering my exposure to toxic chemicals. yay.
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