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Kicillof: “no change of NY jurisdiction, but a change of payment location”
Argentina's new plan to skirt U.S. courts and resume payment on defaulted bonds aims to protect creditors who participated in two debt restructurings, Economy minister Axel Kicillof said on Wednesday. But he also emphasized that the bill sent to Congress did not mean a 'change of jurisdiction' from New York but rather a change of payment 'location'. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSo no change of jurisdiction?
Aug 21st, 2014 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0So if Griesa says this cannot happen then Argentina will accept that...... as he is still the judge within the jurisdiction that hasn't been change.
kici: “These gentlemen bought bonds for 50 million dollars and Griesa says we must pay them now. Griesa says you can't pay the 92% of creditors if you don’t pay those who bought bonds for 50 million dollars that turned into 800 million dollars...”
Aug 21st, 2014 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0kic-ill, you bloody fool, this has been handled so since 1000 years, is handled today and will be handled in the next 1000 years. under NORMAL people, not under argentines robberment gangs.
your change bonds have lost their value since they came on the market. what about them if i buy them now and want to collect 100 %? not possible?
you´re so dumb!
Lets idscuss this like grown ups. Troll, Think etc, I'm not abusing you, just discussing this conceptually.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 01. Changing the place of payment is a change of jurisdiction as you are changing the jurisdiction of the payment. As such, the payment mechanism will be governed by Argentinean law.
2. The actual jurisdiction of the bonds will still be NY. Once you have asked a judge to interpret a private contract such as this what he says goes. Making the payment in BA will be illegal, not just conceptually but illegal under the terms of the bonds as the bondholders and government no longer have control over the process until the court order has been complied with.
3. This payment will be illegal and, as such, an event of default can be called by the bondholders (lets no forget that the Republic is already in default). This can allow them to accelerate. They haven’t done this as yet as they are waiting for the order to be complied with. Changing the place of payment actually affects them as they may not be able to accept this change.
4. Any contempt order from the judge could involve those who accept the new payment jurisdiction and they are assisting in evading the court order (very similar to sanctions where if you restructure to evade sanctions you can still get caught).
5. This could incldue, bonholders who accept payment into a US bank account, those who change payment to EURO and swap into US$, Argentinean entities who accept payments in Argentina and use those payment to find business in the US (obviously corporate veil issues will have an impact here).
6. Lets say that Argentina actually pays off all of its creditors (except holdouts). It will still be I a state of default until those guys have got the money owed to them under the order. This will mean no external funding from external bodies (BRICS might not fund in a case of default), no US$ investment etc. Given the impact the default is starting to have (it will be slow), this could cripple the economy.
Their arrogance makes them stupid.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Too bad they're dragging 40MM people with them.
Come and get it? That's not happen in either.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0another failure in kicillof´s record, and counting.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0now the imbecile is trying to revive the cedin...lol
so, you have: the default, the procrear, cedin, procreauto, the impuestazo on car sales, inflation, stagnation, business closures, loss of job positions, etc.
his conferences seem to be directed to a centro de estudiantes and not to a population of a country.
we already know the vulture funds are crap, the imbecile does not need to explain it over and over again.
In typical K speech fashion the go through the whole history before mumbling something that amounts to: We have no money to pay.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then straight back to the La Patria part.
Devaluation coming soon to Argentina (again).
The Government came out to clarify yesterday that the bill sent to Congress does not imply a change of juridiction for the bondholders who entered the swaps. But articles 6 and 7 of the bill suggest otherwise that it will empower the Ministry of Finance to make an exchange of bonds under local legislation and jurisdiction. The project is currently uploaded in the website of the Office of the President.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HEYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Aug 21st, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What happened to Elvis Kissoff's sideburns?
Has he been gradually trimming them?
Is he now trying to channel his inner Sir Keith Richards?
Does he lack satisfaction?
Does the K government really think this will help them get access to international capital markets? Isn't that their goal? They won't get access until the vultures are satisfied, period.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To all those who say they that Argentina shouldn't borrow from the west, then don't. Don't pay anyone and you will never have to borrow from the west again.
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/167671/govt-calls-holdouts-to-accept-new-swap-for-certain-payment-chances
Aug 21st, 2014 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Cabinet Chief Jorge Capitanich reiterated that the bill pushed by the Executive “is not about a change of jurisdiction but of venue” and pledged that bondholders who voluntary accept the new swap will have “clear, certain” chances to receive payment.”
If I were a bondholder I would be doubly hesitant when they use the would “chances” of getting paid. Accelerate the debt and fuck them.
@11 if I was a bondholder, I would just wait it out until January, the pressure will be so great on the government by then they will be forced to settle with the holdouts, you would think. They are not in a pleasant situation but they lost, time to accept those losses and move on for the good of the nation. Unfortunately they don't take losing too well and therefore the results might be unpredictable
Aug 21st, 2014 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are absolutely unpredictable. They might say that the country will pay and not pay or, to the contrary, scream out that the country won't pay and pay..who knows...
Aug 21st, 2014 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0U.S. judge schedules hearing Thursday at 3 p.m. EDT (1900 GMT) in New York, after Argentine officials announced plans to skirt his court rulings that pushed the country into default.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://news.yahoo.com/holdout-creditor-calls-u-court-hold-argentina-contempt-131343187--sector.html
@13 hence they won't gain access to capital markets anytime soon. If there is one thing investors value, its predictability
Aug 21st, 2014 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I have been involved in more than 20 country debt restructurings and I had never before or since encountered representatives of a country who were more duplicitous, arrogant or who demonized the representatives on the other side of the table more.”
Aug 21st, 2014 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hans Humes , The Guardian (With thanks ufrom an earlier post from Leiard)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/20/argentina-debt-default-lawyers-court-pay-clause
@16
Aug 21st, 2014 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh poor little innocent children, what did they do to deserve this?
I personally hope they get a nice life scare in a plane or car, to be honest.
13.95/1
Aug 21st, 2014 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Will we see 14/1 today?
My oh my what will that do to inflation?
Psst I know exactly what it will do to inflation
They are going to be forced to devalue again.
Anyone guess what the new currency will be called?
#11 “chances” . . . ah yes, nothing is certain in rotting roadkill except inflation and dog excrement.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17 Troll
Aug 21st, 2014 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Venezuela's shipments of crude oil and fuel to its allies have fallen to a five-year low as a weak economy hits its ability to uphold accords that former President Hugo Chavez struck to lower energy costs for friends and expand his diplomatic clout”
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/21/venezuela-oil-exports-idUKL2N0QO0XA20140821
Singer really has them dancing:
Aug 21st, 2014 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It’s right by right by wrong you go,
And you can’t go to heaven while you carry on so,
And it’s home little gal and do-si-do,
And it may be the last time, I don’t know,
And oh by gosh and oh by Joe.
Ho ho ho and ho ho ho
@20
Aug 21st, 2014 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look, you seem not to understand.
This battle with the vultures is in fact the LONGEST TERM, LONGEST TIME HORIZON, LONG-TERM THINKING, Argentina has engaged in for many many years:
1. For 15 years Argentina has not been able to accumulate more debt with foreigners. Long term that in itself is very good.
2. It has been able to “get away” with not paying a huge amount of old debt already, regardless of what happens with Singer et al. Very good long term.
3. It may still get away with not paying Singer et al. Good financially, but excellent as precedent long term.
4. This battle with the vultures needs to be taken to the bitter end now. It is too late in the game to “Change course” as all the international media are suggesting. If it destroys our economy (I doubt it), so be it. It will destroy our economy. But the stand must be made now, and not one step back given.
Long term, this will make international investors thing VERY VERY long, before lending to Argentina. It will make it very hard for Argentine politicians to borrow, and it will completely discourage ANYONE from taking on Argentina in the future if this scenario repeats (no one will want to waste 15 years on getting 1 billion dollars...)
5. It will make Argentina understand that 'quickie” contracts for cash backfire.
6. It will make the crony capitalist that run EUia and NorthAmoland that their criminality and corruption will have its consequences (since Europe and North America has washed its hand of punishing the banks even as they caused a huge economic crisis in their own countries).
All in all, long, long term this is completely healthy and phenomenal. I would call it in fact a purification.
@24
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is Argentina going to follow this path ?
“Venezuela fingerprints monitor buyers to ration food consumption”
http://www.cronista.com/internacionales/Venezuela-controlara-las-huellas-dactilares-de-los-compradores-para-racionar-el-consumo-de-alimentos-20140821-0104.html
@23
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina produces 20 times the food Venezuela produces. Next question.
#23 OMFG!
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0George Orwell, Dean Koontz and Stephen King together could not have thought of a finger printing system to buy food.
Tobi.....clean your fingers.
If Corn and Soy are unprofitable and gas and oil are getting hugely expensive in peso terms.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When do farmers let the fields go fallow?
My guess is it won't be too much longer now
quite possibly next year
40% of the farmers can't fund next years crops
now what?
@26
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bigger farms with more pockets take them over. Next question.
At 15:00 EST, today in New York, Kicillof is going to get his mouth washed out with soap...
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems the mentally challenged troll is again suffering from diarrhea.
@28
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you apologize for denigrating 700+ Argentine war dead you so callously made fun of for dying in the Falklands?
Funny that didn't happen in Zimbabwe or Venezuela when farming became unprofitable.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure Mugabe and Chavez thought exactly the same thing.
Oh someone else will do it.
Psst...nobody goes into business with the intention of losing their money.
I wonder why Rgs think Argentina is any different.
Interesting to note that the ICJ state: 'the Court, whose function is to decide in accordance with international law such disputes as are submitted to it, shall apply, (para c) 'the general principles of law recognised by civilized nations.'
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Zimbabwe and Venezuela... you knowledge of geography, climate, and soils is an absolute embarrassment.
Argentina has gone through HYPERINFLATION, and guess what, there was no mass-starvation nor was there digital fingerprinting or communist style ration cards.
Next question.
When you had hyperinflation last time you were self sufficient with oil/gas, you were even an exporter. Your farmers also had a somewhat balanced crop to prioritize internal consumption.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0None of that is true now.
Soy and Corn will be unprofitable next year.
I think you even imported wheat last year
You now import U$1b of food products
BCRA is out of cash
Peso is rapidly failing
More pesos to buy, gas, seed, fertilizer...etc etc etc
At some point it all collapses
That may be next year
Oh you are going to “PAY” for sure!!!
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Troll writes “All in all, long, long term this is completely healthy and phenomenal. I would call it in fact a purification.”
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You must just LOVE the Killing Fields of Combodia and China's Cultural Revolution!
It should be no surprise to anyone that TTT who has nothing and no future wishes it on everyone else.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@35
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong
@34
Quite Wrong
@33
Ignominiously wrong.
@36
Brainlessly wrong
Comment removed by the editor.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only surprise Elaine would be a positive outcome for Tobi's future. It currently looks like his mother will be needing finger prints to buy his food in the near future.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The South American way seems to be the way to go....huh?
@37
Aug 21st, 2014 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you and the others think as grown up adults you are, that you gain more credibility by simply banding about completely unfounded, 100% fantasized predictions?
Hint: you don't gain any credibility
Elaine has a good point and Captain Poppy is always finding the bright side of life.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Conqueror, the observations by Mr Hume seem for more viable than those who suggest Argentina follow the path of Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe and North Korea...
Personally, I suggest posters refrain from ridiculing the mentally challenged troll who constantly converses nonsense with himself via multiple identities, but Conqueror, to answer your final question, I would classify him only suitable for WWII service as one of those Judenräte thugs that roamed the streets with a night stick.
@39 It is pretty typical behaviour of immature, disaffected, ne'er-do-wells who crave status to want to bring society to its' knees. They can't elevate in society so they want everyone to decline to their low level. TTT displays all the traits and seems rather proud of it. Which shows he is not as clever as he thinks he is. He has no concept of the reality of living in an isolated, broke and lawless society; yet.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahh there's 14/1.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My my my that's been a quick run in a week. Where oh where will we be by the end of the year when BCRA has absolutely no float at all.
Yes Yankeeboy,
Aug 21st, 2014 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But honestly I thought it would be 5+ times that a long time ago.
You got to credit the Argentine wizards being able to maintain this Ponzi scheme for such a long time.
While I am no shrink, we all take psych 101 and sociology here in the USA in our undergrad studies. I always felt he was the typical low self esteem that builds himself up by bring others down. What is the saddest, he seems to have a reasonable IQ that is is wasted.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yb see the restrictions on beef imports to help stem the spiraling prices in beef? Ranchers are none too happy......I see a strike in the makings.
My European-North American Contemporary Imperialism and Crimes against Humanity class warned me that one of the tools EUians and NorthAmoans make use of when arguing is character defamation through mental incapacity.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seeing here first hand. That was one well taught university class.
You must have graduated with a BS (Hons.)
Aug 21st, 2014 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing to do with science of course.
@47
Aug 21st, 2014 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The class was completely truthful. If you don't like what you see in the mirror, it's not my fault. But the last 500 years have been utterly shameful in terms of the behavior of your country and the others in Europe, etc.
Especially their policy of abducting, torturing and murdering left wing students, now that was utterly shameful, as was their policy of providing a safe haven for a generation of homicidal ethnic cleansers for pecuniary considerations.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do not know how we will ever expunge the shame from our history, it keeps me awake at night worrying about it. Perhaps we could make a start, by emulating your great example of humanity and democracy under the rule of law.
The deeply disturbed mentally challenged adolescent troll suffering from a severe multiple personality disorder is registered under several Mercopress identities. He routinely posts conversing with his self using multiple personalities and sadly suffers from delusions of grandeur.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's fairly obvious that American- English is his native tongue and he's certainly monolingual. Possibly has a secondary school education with even a class or two at a community college. I suspect Captain Poppy is correct in the assumption about his low esteem.
It's like the bully who never received parental praise, love or compassion so they derive what is missing and what they crave........esteem from those they love, by his type of behavior.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He his irritating but also to be pitied. I used to think he was a wind-up merchant but he has been here too long for that.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Imagine being that filled with self-loathing and hopelessness that the only pleasure he garners is the idea that somewhere, anywhere, must be worse. He has no friends, can't have a relationship (he hates all women including - or maybe especially - his own mother), can't get a decent job, and is trapped in a deteriorating society. (Or as Chicureo suggests, maybe he is not in Argentina at all).
We should feel pity for TTT. It doesn't hurt to converse with him as we are all he has but I doubt any of us take anything he says seriously or have any respect for him. That probably hurts him more than he will ever admit.
You know.......that seems to make a lot of sense, not being Argentine at all. He is definitely a project for a “profiler”.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Elaine, sincerely you have made a very good observation about his pitiful situation and perhaps I'm a bit too harsh. Thanks,
Aug 21st, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@53 & 54, I've just seen him ranting on another thread. If any chap needed to get laid it is him.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@54 You are not harsh at all. He invites criticism of the strongest kind and I am pretty sure he loves a fight. I am just saying that ultimately he is to be pitied.
“certainly monolingual”
Aug 21st, 2014 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And with that, Chichureo has officially graduated into the premier league of inferiority feelings, jaundice, and total and sublime narcissistic haplessness.
In other words, a typical anti-argie Chilean.
According to Kicillof: “These gentlemen bought bonds for 50 million dollars and Griesa says we must pay them now. ”
Aug 21st, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0According to the most respected court in the world:
The disputed bonds, issued by Argentina in February and July 2000, were purchased by NML between June 2001 and September 2003, ** at a little over half their face value of 172 million USD. ** The bonds were governed by New York law, resulting in a 2006 U.S. judgment that Argentina owed NML the full value of the bonds plus 112 million in unpaid interest, according to the judgment of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom.
2011.07.06: Sovereign immunity in NML Capital Ltd v Republic of Argentina - Supreme Court of the United Kingdom - Judgment
http://www.supremecourt.uk/decided-cases/docs/UKSC_2010_0040_Judgment.pdf (page 2 (3 in the .pdf))
As we humans know, “over half their face value” means more than 50 cents on the dollar.
Slightly over half “of 172 million USD.” is at least 86 million USD. Kicillof's ability to do math is shown in that he thinks 86 = 50.
@57
Aug 21st, 2014 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Right... and even under your “human” 86 million”, now we are supposed to play them 1.2 billion???
Please tell me who on this planet makes a 200o% percent profit on an investment... within 10-12 years.
You are OK for this greedy bastard whose ONLY business is to bankrupt others out of business getting this sort of margin?
#57
Aug 21st, 2014 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good observation, but hard for Argentine economists to understand, just like inflation statistics...
Elaine,
I believe you're right. The boy is probably a 19 year old virgin...
Don't feed the troll. It thrives on masochating itself Elaine you have done more than enough to help it with its mental dysfunction but enough is enough.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I had the honour to be called scum by this troglodyte. Unfortunately the editor deleted his post. Any other distinguished posters want to join the scum club?
I've noticed a funny thing about scum.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It always rises to the surface.
Conversely, a turd always falls to the bottom.
Just an observation.
The only reason the profit is so large is the continuing obfuscation and delay of the scammers who issued the bonds. It's comforting to know that criminal behavior is being justly recompensed. ;)
Aug 21st, 2014 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't do that Reality Check,
Aug 21st, 2014 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It will only overload his mentally challenged thought stream into debating for hours which category he falls into.
Redpoll,
Ok, I'll cooperate and stop baiting the troll. Starting now, he does not exist.
End 14.20/1
Aug 21st, 2014 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gov't rate up 8.404
BCRA even interceded a bit. My guess is a “bit” is all they could afford. The days of spending u$100MM/day to tamp it down are done.
I had to snicker when Austral Elvis ( I think he saw me posting that name because the lovely sideburns are gone, shucks) and one of his minions saying over and over again that they won't depreciate..again. Is a fib.
The peso is racing and there's really nothing to stop it.
Less value to peso = more inflation, More inflation= less value to peso rinse and repeat.
Where does it end?
I think when a Coke cost $30,000-40,000 pesos the people might wake up out of their stupor
Just think, with all the initial academic training and professional development over the years I completely missed this little gem:
Aug 21st, 2014 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“My European-North American Contemporary Imperialism and Crimes against Humanity class”
And from an argie “University”. How will I ever overcome the shortfall in my education?
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, etc., etc.
Yankeeboy,
Aug 21st, 2014 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wish there was a live cam feed to watch Griesa in Manhattan pin the ears back on a few lawyers representing Argentina today. What kind of sanction will result from a “grave affront” to his orders ?
(63) Chicureo
Aug 21st, 2014 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tobias may be a tad special, young and inexperienced...
But he's certainly eminent at winding up a variety of seemingly very important and experienced Anti-argentinean personages” in here ;-)))
Keep it up Tobias!
Les ganás por afano, les ganás...
66. At some point I think US State will have to intervene and kindly tell Argentina that The US courts will be obeyed...or else.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would be quite hilarious if Griesa asked them not to extend diplomatic immunity to the Rg scum going to the UN. You can come but you are admitted as a tourist. I think some of them may abruptly change their travel plans. Contempt could get you jail time...you know.
Roll up, roll up, all aboard for the trip round Deadmind Cove!
Aug 21st, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MV Scumclub is about to sail.ANd it's FREE!!!!!!
All you need to board is a large towel to catch the gilded nostril drippings of our resident troll!!!!!
Fantastic prizes for the best entry. !!!!!
First prize A week in Mendoza. Second prize : two weeks in Mendoza!!!!
Come on ladies don't be shy. It's only a troll. No need to get laid back about that. He's a relic from the Stone Age and uses stone tools.
Oh well I'll probably get censored for that comment but worth it nonetheless.
No, but in the end, there will only most likely be a stern warning issued today and even if sanctions were to be issued, the U S state department would do nothing. Obama apparently prefers golf above all else.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile, car sales down and consumers are buying less. There's a glut of corn in worlds markets and plenty of wheat. Argentina needs to focus again on soy.
Even Chile is feeling a slowdown right now. New Russian sales opportunities opportunities will be limited as the sanctions will be over within 3months.
It's going to get a lot worse before it will start getting better in the Argentina.
At this rate I will be able to buy Mendoza when I visit later this year.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I jest. But it will be a bloody cheap trip provided it's not deemed too lawless.
At (60), our English rancher residing in Uruguay asks us NOT to feed the Troll....
Aug 21st, 2014 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At (69), our English rancher residing in Uruguay feeds the Troll a six course menu...
Ain't that a perfect example of Anglo consistency?
I expose Kicillof's lies, and idiot child Tobias is unable to understand and tries to divert to something else - as usual.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I might have a man in to clean my belvedere this weekend whilst I escape from London for some coastal walks.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Probably Suffolk.
Thought you would li
70. Obama is a horrible horrible President. I don't think anyone sane would argue that point.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's so much dirt on the Ks that State could use as a bludgeon if they wanted to, threaten CFK with a DEA indictment, disclose where the stolen loot is hidden, lock up her drug addled spawn, there's a lot they could do and I think they're getting pushed into it whether its CFK's intention or not she's going to get pay-back.
Griesa will find them in contempt IF it is signed into law, maybe before, and my guess is he'll find a creative way to make their lives more painful or just fine them...hugely.
I wonder if Think has noticed the horrifying effects the default is having already? I haven't seen many pricing update posts lately.
I wonder why?
:)
71
Aug 21st, 2014 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0elaine
that happened before.
from 2003 to 2010 tourism revived thanks in part to devaluation.
as for being too lawless, it is nothing when you compare it with the uk and its riots.
I agree w Trolly that this stops 'leaders' from acquiring -more' debt on behalf of Argentines.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But huh? on Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe was recently the and beyond.
http://www.economist.com/node/1201137
”Zimbabwe contains the most fertile lands in Africa.-wiki.
And bc the region is subtropical (like California), they could also grow year-round.
76. Tourism won't be revived until Argentina is considered safe again. You have a long way to go before you're considered cheap, remember you have to include the flight cost, time to travel etc.
Aug 21st, 2014 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina, as I rightly predicted oh so long ago, would price themselves out of the tourist market.
and it has
#75
Aug 21st, 2014 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think has squirreled away enough single malts down in his cellar until he makes his next smuggling trip across the Andes...
#76
Yes, and half of Chile crossed over with empty suitcases. I was a part of the invasion.
#77
Worst food production in the past 60 years. We had a nightmare in Chile in the early 70's and now Venezuela is facing a disaster as well.
#72 Think,
The problem here as you know quite well, is that most of our “Anglo consistency” is diluted with other races...
We of Anglo-Iberian backgrounds cannot help ourselves as we are genetically programmed to be pirates. We take what is not ours, get drunk and then foolishly brag about our conquests before eventually confessing for our sins... Then, of course, we do it all over again.
Your Nordic folk, are somewhat similar, except it takes twice the amount of alcohol to get them inebriated and their's no confession afterwards... Although eating cold fermented fish with dill is sort of penance I guess...
The problem is when you start mixing the ancient tribes of southern Italy with Iberian mestizos that try to mimic the Anglo pirate style of plunder... You then end up with a unique clan called Peronists that incessantly are complaining that the world needs to confess their guilt for Argentina's problems...
At (61), one of the regular Anglo Turnips shares some of his insight with us...
Aug 21st, 2014 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He has noticed that his turds always “fall to the bottom”...
Do we have a GP in here that can tell him that if he eats his veggies he will get some healthy “floaters”?
(79) Chicureo
A mix of ancient tribes of southern Italy with Iberian mestizos, you say...?
You mean... Like them Kicillofs, Timermans & Kirchners...?
Think,
Aug 21st, 2014 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't touch upon all the genetic combinations in South America, in Chile alone we have the Germans, French, Croatians, Palestinians, the Mapuche.
Anyone that has a basic understanding of genetics will explain to you that the inbreeding of certain bloodlines can easily result in compulsive kleptomaniacs and pathological liars. Kirchner of Chilean parentage certainly made his outcome unpredictable.. .Then again, you have the proverbial bad apple from a good family, such as Timerman...
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Aug 21st, 2014 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW anyone know what the beggars currently ask for on Florida Avenue?
Aug 21st, 2014 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When I lived ther its was 1 peso or pesito as they would say with their filthy outstretched hands and a drunk baby to garner sympathy.
That was a U$ quarter.
But if you ask for the same now it would be worth u$.0007
That really wasn't that long ago
:)
81. Genius. Cretina is again a victim - but this time of inbreeding. Pure science!
Aug 21st, 2014 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your Yankee Amigos Salute You!
Trying to maintain the dignity of the noble bloodlines of Chile...
Aug 21st, 2014 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many, of the supposedly prominent families of Chile are Basque. * Although they're a strange race to their own, I've thrown them in with the whole Iberian lot. ...speaking of strange non-Spanish speaking races, some of my ancestors were Catalan. My children have some blood as well from Galicia...
(*The wealthiest of course being Croatian.)
We've done our best to defend our frontier from Scandinavians, but they're sneaky and often claim to be from northern Germany. We've been fortunate to keep the illegal immigration of this undesirable race to an absolute (vodka like) minimum...
83 - 14.05 a while ago on Calle Florida.
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0On the street In Miami - for most of the summer - the RR Pesos has traded for about a nickel. In Manhattan you can't hardly get a bid for less than 15,000 of them. In Houston, small amounts have curio/collectable value only and then dependent upon condition. With a hay baller and access to some neighboring airfreight, it's tempted more than a few to repatriate them.
#84
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you
83 - look at what you have become.
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 01:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0*Zimbabwe was recently the bread basket of a continent and beyond.
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think Argentina's touch of isolationism can really HELP them, in this way:
If they instead become one with the communal countries, they would be the tiny white minority.
To rephrase Mugabe, “Take back the lands the colonialists stole and give them back to the brown people.” Chavez did it. In a local downturn I can see ALBA getting interesting, wanting fertile land.
You really don't have anything to worry about from an economically-up, food and energy surplus U.S.
Argentina is easily self sufficient in food production. The problem of course is for farm profits to be sufficient for farmers to risk planting as well as encourage excess production for the all important export market. With the exception of Soy beans, farmers are not completely convinced. Argentina long ago lost its position in the beef export market and there are several crops that growers are actually just breaking even on. The famed wine producing areas in Mendoza are very concerned.
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 04:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0junkie boy
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0“BTW anyone know what the beggars currently ask for on Florida Avenue?”
florida avenue?
it does not exist.
“When I lived ther its was 1 peso or pesito as they would say with their filthy outstretched hands and a drunk baby to garner sympathy.”
in what neighbourhood did you live?
let me guess: villa 21, villa 31 or fuerte apache?
Well, where should I begin...
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 04:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think I will begin with a new beginning.
@91 Nice try pal. ;)
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 04:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Street
“in what neighbourhood did you live?
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 05:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0let me guess: villa 21, villa 31 or fuerte apache?”
All created by and lived in by Argentineans.
@3 WW
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Excellent summary.
92 imoyaro
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice catch !!
Why would nasty niño @ 91 say that?
Is he that stupid? - easily shown to be a liar and a dunce.
Honestly, this troll is lazier than “ Sussie” the transvestite!!
@96
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0All I did was search Florida Calle, and there it was. My guess is he's never been to BA because he's stuck in “MendaCity.” ;)
The Rgs get mad because I know their country better and in more depth than they do.
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Most of them haven't traveled at all.
imbeciles 93, toy and junkie boy
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0again, florida AVENUE does not exist, you trio of imbeciles.
it is a street, a calle peatonal.
nothing to do with an avenue.
do you trio de nabos know the difference between avenue, street and pedestrian street?
@99
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like I said, nice try pal. I typed in the word “calle.” The place exists, you are trying to deflect. Been seeing a lot of that on this site, for some reason. ;)
Semantics!
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0florida is not an avenue, can you understand that, you dimwits?
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0have you ever in your sad lives seen a pedestrian street?
or an avenue?
guess you have a lot in that cosmopolitan city of pork stanley, lol.
92. Are you about to morph? Going to take the leap? Truth too much? What say you? Do you think your future self will be more successful?
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@102
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here's a tip. In some places the words “street” and “avenue” are interchangeable. For example, the avenues are north/south running , and the streets run east/west on a grid. Makes it simple to tell from an address which way the street runs in that particular town, but there is essentially no difference. If we are talking about Spanish, I would naturally look for “calle” initially in the address. I was right of course. Please keep trying to deflect, it just makes you look even more desperate. ;)
102. Bahahaha thanks for correcting my english.
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You may want to take a stroll down said STREET and buy some U$ before they're all gone.
Pretty soon you'll need a wheelbarrow full of $100 peso notes to buy a coke.
#92 he is going to consult with his All Star MVP team of “Me, myself and I” to determine what his new personality shall be.
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arguing over a street versus an avenue........wow.......such a major point of contention.
That's like arguing if Argentina should be called dirtbags, scumbags, deadbeats, bums leeches, moochers, parasites or..........
imoyano, junkie boy, toy- aka the 3 stooges
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0definition of avenue: A broad road in a town or city, typically having trees at regular intervals along its sides.
got it now?
do you understand now when i wisely say: invest the few bucks you have in EDUCATION?
@107
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I refer you to post 104.
107. Since you're obviously so familiar with it please answer my original question;
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What do the filthy beggar women with the drunk babies ask for currently?
It can's still be a pesito
That's U$0.0007 now
Bahahahaha
BTW any idea what the next currency will be named? I found it fascinating that in San Telmo the sellers have all of the various and sundry AND worthless former currencies for sale. How many have there been in your lifetime Paul? 3? 5? More?
Bahahahha
yb the avenue versus street debate seems to explain why Argentina is in the shape they are in.......it's a matter of choosing one's battles wisely.
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So my power is so overwhelming you all now believe I am Think, and sussie, and paulcedron, and brasileiro, and 4n controll, and a bunch of others.
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Use your little brains for a second. Do a census of all the posts from all of these posters, do you honestly believe one person could be responsible for all of them? And not ONE TIME slip up in log-in and type under one of those characters the persona of another?
HOW COME THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED?
I will repeat, I have used many names, but ALWAYS one of them at a time, never changing names to act as two entities. And I have only ONE account.
I must be far more traumatizing than we thought I ever was with our statements. We should take more care of what I say in the future.
:)
@111
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anything you say, pal. Anything you say. ;)
@111 LOL
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who was that?
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0111. No. You are henceforce - in any of your incarnations - simply:
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Smeagol
#115
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah come on, that's not nice.
That's character defamation and really a nasty insult...
Smeago was far nicer, polite, intelligent and personable than the mystery troll you refer to. I suggest you apologize for insulting poor Smeago's name.
116. At least Smeagol had a goal and plan for his life....and two friends.
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#117
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Probably had higher culinary tastes, a more extensive command of the English language, better read and certainly practiced better hygiene...
@ 117
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And there were two of them inside his head.
Here is the problem. Whenever I visualize Think/Voice/4ncntrl - I see a Smeagolish appearing character in my mind's eye. And it might be equally argued that calling Think/Voice/4ncntrl trollish is an affront to trolls everywhere - forum and otherwise.
Aug 22nd, 2014 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0120
Aug 23rd, 2014 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0WTF are you trying to say...?...and who are you anyway with your chronic rotting roadkill phrases...what is that supposed to mean..? makes you sound like a total retard.
Any fool can see that Toby is one person that changes his name....
My guess is you are a stupid southern Yank.....explains the Roadkill....sorry lunch to you....
120 Chronic
Aug 23rd, 2014 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0you've offended ThinksVoice.
Now he's going to settle in for a good long natter about how superior he is, etc.
Thanks a lot.
“Speak of the Devil, and he shall appear”, or something like that.
@122 Troy,
Aug 23rd, 2014 - 04:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think even the devil would acknowledge the troll from Mendoza as one of his own
121. Smeagol, don't get your knickers in a twist or you might injure your tail.
Aug 23rd, 2014 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rotting roadkill is a perhaps not to obvious - to you - allegory pertaining to the bond holding hedge funds which some have referred to as vultures. So by that analogy if they are indeed vultures, Argentina must be carrion or rotting roadkill. When the editors of this rag dispense with the pejorative labeling of the Mr. Singer and his associates I will consider reciprocating - for being called simply - Argentina is enough of a burden and stain on honor for any people to collectively bear.
Smeagol, in all your incarnation: Your Yankee Amigos Salute your prolifiligation of keystrokes.
124
Aug 23rd, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A chronic analogy...as far as I can see the 'Vultures' have preyed on nothing so far and by the looks of things to come, will get nothing....
...how long has it been...a decade....let me know when they actually get somewhere..;-)
Singer a Co. reminds me of this.....
Buzzie: [to Flaps] Okay, so what we gonna do?
Flaps: I don't know, what you wanna do?
Buzzie: Look, Flaps, first I say, “What we gonna do?” Then you say, “I don't know, what you wanna do?” Then I say, “What we gonna do?” You say, “What you wanna do?” “What we gonna do?” “What you want...” Let's do SOMETHING!
Flaps: Okay. What you wanna do?
Courtesy of Jungle Book....
Voice based on your post in 121, Chronic seems to have displaced you somewhat......“who are you anyway”. I have not seen that question asked HERE because almost all lie or are afraid to tell the truth. But I have to say I love the “Smeagol” and “roadkill” reference. I pause and chuckle.....even though I had to google who Smeagol is.
Aug 24th, 2014 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Pops....you have a newbie or at least a newbie to me appearing from nowhere thinking he can join the tribe and throw collective insults my way, when I have never even engaged him/it in conversation...who does he/she think he/she/it....is...?
Aug 24th, 2014 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hence my question who are you to come on here insulting me as a newbie...shortened to “who are you anyway”....
I can't believe you have never read any Tolkien as a kid....I read Huckfinn and Tom Sawyer as one naturally would...as a kid...
So what do you reckon.....a Southern Yank or what...? All the boxes are ticked for me....;-)
126 Poppy
Aug 24th, 2014 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0chuckle chuckle chuckle... “Voice” is all upset - trying to impose rules on who can criticise him or not.
I would think that anyone was entitled to criticise him, as soon as they read his vitriol and snide remarks...
I had no idea that it had anything to do with 'seniority'???
I wonder how long one is required to be “on here” before “voicing” an opinion?
How long before Voicey started sh!tting all over everyone?
Oh yeah I forgot I was southern too...
Aug 24th, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice and Think, never right about anything. Not once not ever.
Sometimes they don't even know if its morning or night.
If anyone thinks I should have to ask for their 'permission' before posting please state why now.
Aug 24th, 2014 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will be delighted to rip you a new one. ...
:)
130 ilsen
Aug 25th, 2014 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Voice” has had many opinions on who is a allowed to post, or whether they are eligible to have opinions.
Sometimes we cramp his 'style'.
“It's unfair!!” - does that ring a bell?
131. He's never really said why he's here, never claimed to have ever been to Argentina. So what is some barely educated highlander doing on this site?
Aug 25th, 2014 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmmm could it be he's a Marxist terrorist that hasn't been there since the 70s?
Hmm maybe.
Hahaha...a degree and more O and A levels than you could shake a stick at... is barely educated.....
Aug 25th, 2014 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's not one of those Yankee degrees that come free if you collect the tokens from a Cornflakes packet.....
Ever tuned into a Yankee quiz show...? They are embarrassing....
Reminds me of the Harry Potter book....“Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone”
The Yankee version is....“Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone ” because they thought the Yanks would be too stupid to understand what a Philosopher was....;-)
...Fred...that's rich coming from an Estate Agent...or a Realtor to you....
Voice, If you THINK you know who I am you should give me a call or email. I'd be happy to chat with you and explain how I know you come from a lower economic background and have been poorly educated.
Aug 25th, 2014 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have been dealing with climbers my whole life
You're really easy to spot.
133
Aug 25th, 2014 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Grasping ... and spewing ....
Fred the one trick pony.....
Aug 25th, 2014 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....the minute he's taken from his mystic predictions, that he repeats parrot fashion from what he has read on the net...his ignorance shines through like a Belisha beacon and he is exposed for what he is....
An Estate Agent that thinks he's an Economist....
....tell me about the gas tanker again....that one is a gem.....;-))))
In the USA when there's an interloper we are all nice to them until they can be thrown out as we all pretend not to notice.
Aug 25th, 2014 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Has that happened to you often?
Methinks I hit a bit too close to home....
Notice you don't deny that you are an Estate Agent.....;-)
Aug 25th, 2014 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I could be anything I wished to be on this forum....but unlike you, I stick to the truth, no exaggerations, no delusions of grandeur and yet....I bet I'm wealthier than you...
...and I didn't really need to have more than a basic understanding of economics to be that way....
Those that can....do and those that can't..well they pretend they can on forums...;-)
All you appear to me... is a bitter and twisted hater of people that takes great delight in the suffering of others.....
You are a pathetic joke.....and a dreamer....and we all know why you won't reveal your location....in case someone comes across you....and realises you are just a bum...
Why is it so important for you to know who I am? As I said before you THINK you know who I am so just call the number. My phone hasn't rung from “Scotland” yet.
Aug 26th, 2014 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0I've also said I never lie. Everything I've ever posted on this forum is the truth. That's why I always know exactly what I say and can't be tripped up.
Unlike some people who don't know if it is morning or night when they are posting.
I know exactly what you are.
Sooo....you are an Estate Agent...;-)
Aug 26th, 2014 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0ps...You wouldn't know if your phone had been called from Scotland if you missed it...;-)
You don't know anything about international calls do you....
Scotland calling....Missed call from Scotland.....Missed call from Scotland...Alert....PMSL....
What a bum....
138 ThinksVoice
Aug 26th, 2014 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I could be anything I wished to be on this forum....but unlike you, I stick to the truth, no exaggerations, no delusions of grandeur and yet...”
Yankeeboy,
of course, we all know that “Voice” has never claimed to “stand for” or “be” anything.
His criticisms and judgements of others are therefore, without reference, or any knowledge of his motives or affiliations, social or political, paid or sponsored.
- WORTHLESS.
Being nothing, he can make his self-gratifying catcalls, whilst presenting a “smaller target”
- ATTENTION WHORE
Just ignore him - he lives in a bitter fantasy - can't travel - impecunious, incarcerated, or inadmissible...
Speak of the Sycophant...and he shall surely appear.....
Aug 26th, 2014 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's it Yankeeboy you're winning....you're winning....you've got him on the ropes...simper, simper....;-))))
Nope no missed calls, in fact my phone has been next to be all day like it is every day.
Aug 26th, 2014 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Again, why do you care who I am?
I couldn't care less who you are, although I know exactly what you are.
142 Voice
Aug 26th, 2014 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0I stand by what I said @141.
Look who is shouting and standing on his head for attention @133-142.
you're not funny
you're not clever
you're a plain boring attention seeker.
I think you miss us when we don't talk to you.
sad, really.
Voice when Argentina calls me and I missed the call........my phones reads out......Missed call.....5411 48xx xxxx. So.....actually he would knew a missed call from Scotland.
Aug 26th, 2014 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0145. I would know if I missed a call no matter where it originated from, methinks Voice doesn't have the latest (even last decade) technology.
Aug 26th, 2014 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0But he's never been right about anything, why would anyone expect him to start now
They yanked the license on BoNY in Argentina. Seems the near gale winds just freshened to a full gale. Argentina's implosion is like a tornadic vortex with the winds just increasing at in increasing rate.
Aug 26th, 2014 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0147. That tiny branch was probably a condition of the contract. It won't mean anything to BONY but it means that Arg is further and farther away from the world's financial community. Enshrining their Pariah status.
Aug 26th, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BCRA spent u$100MM yesterday and couldn't move the blue peso at all.
We would call that dire anywhere else.
So what if someone comes from a lower class back groun? so what if someone may or may not be? Lets say if yankee was an estate agent (im not clain=ming he is) he has still predicted alot of things on here that have either happened or something similar has happened. He has been correct in the way the Argentine case unrolled in the US courts and on other things as well. Personally I dont care if he is an estate agent. I dont care on about the level of education he has recieved. Voice says he hashad a good education and I dont doubt this. It doesnt stop him from coming off as a twat.
Aug 26th, 2014 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0149 Bdr.Spoon
Aug 26th, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kudos for YankeeBoy succeeding in “the Classless Society” and advancing through merit - as it should be.
I suspect that if “A _Voice” ( Ashamed Voice) did go to a ' good' school, he graduated with nothing more than an Inferiority Complex and a Sense of Entitlement.
Hardly a member of the Optimates Club !!
Well another day has gone by without a call/email/text from Sr. Voice or Think. Both of them claim to know who I am but nary a peep.
Aug 26th, 2014 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder why?
Maybe they can both conference call me..
Probably not tho
14.33/1
My oh my.
Looks like its on its way to 15 pretty quickly
Its really too bad they import most of their fuel :)
Taxi for Sr Thinko and his alter egos.
Aug 27th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle
Still no call.
Aug 27th, 2014 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shucks!
But 14.65/1 so that's nice.
Maybe just maybe we'll see 15/1 today.
but if not today surely by next week...
:)
Its really too bad they import so much fuel...not.
I'm not needing the services of an Estate Agent at the moment....
Aug 28th, 2014 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0When I want another Yankee property...I'll be sure to give you a call....
154. Liar and a loser. Don't you get tired of being humiliated?
Aug 28th, 2014 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0155 YB
Aug 28th, 2014 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice is never buying anything anywhere.
What is it Voice?
Why are you a bitter nasty man sitting alone at home, never travelling...
Impecunious, incarcerated, or inadmissible ???
I know exactly what he is. I've been dealing with those types my whole life.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice what research have you done to make the claim yb is a real estate broker..........aside from the name of think making that claim?
Aug 28th, 2014 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think I asked you once before.....have you ever been inside South America.....in particular Argentina?
None Pops...I'm taking Thinks word for it....(and looking up Fred Bates)
Aug 28th, 2014 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...but I notice YB doesn't deny it..
and it sounds about right...always playing the big shot...according to him he's had people working on his house for about 6 months now....one could build one complete in a month...;-))
I also saw the post where Think explained how he found YB's name...wasn't it you that asked him...?
.....never been to Argentina...and before you even go down that road...Toby and CabezaDura2 have never been to the UK, but it doesn't prevent them commenting on it....
I don't need any excuse to Voice my opinions....
Do you believe that YB hates Argentines and their Country just because he used to live there....there is more to it than that, also if he's in DC, he won't want to let you know as he know's you probably visit and would suggest a meet.....
.....anyone can meet me if they are in my neighbourhood...I tell no lies...
....did you pay your property tax early and save 2% or are you paying face...? On or before the 31st of this month was my deadline for discount....
What a laugh though only 2% discount for early yet 10% penalty if you pay late after Oct 31st....
Or is it different in Boston....? Is property tax spilt into two parts like I have... County and School district...?
I never said Boston proper.....and each and every district has it's own method. Most are twice a year.....November and May.....just before fiscal year end. There is more than one location in Massachusetts, one in CT and some in Argentina via marriage.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think he hates Argentine's because there are a vast amount of them that are the way he speaks. Perhaps it's the way I choose my friends and acquaintances that any I know are not like that nor peronists.
Yes I did ask think and I am not convinced that is he in the least.
My phone still has not rung nor an email received.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice, Think has never been right about anything, not once, not ever why oh why would you presume he's right about me?
He's not that smart.
Why do you care? I couldn't care less about you.
I know exactly what you are.
BTW they're still working on my house. Every week they tell me in two weeks it will be ready.
Ooo....poor English...
Aug 28th, 2014 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who is YB talking to....?
Pops or me...?
You, Voice, you.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you care? Why does it matter? Are you that lonely? Are you that sad?
I couldn't care less who you are because I know exactly what you are.
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