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Griesa leaves Argentina 'in contempt' ledge; warns any change of jurisdiction was 'lawless'

Friday, August 22nd 2014 - 07:17 UTC
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US District Judge Thomas Griesa declared on Thursday that an Argentine plan to change the 'jurisdiction' of restructured foreign debt was illegal, while resisting holdout investors' demands that Argentina be held in contempt of court for attempting to change the site of payment to Buenos Aires. Read full article

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  • Lou Spoo

    I love his analogy:

    Mr Griesa likened Argentina's stance to a man showing up to complete a house purchase with only $80,000 to buy a $100,000 property and insisting: “$80,000 is a lot of money and my family is ready to move in”.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28891208

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • british bomber

    This yank judge is so dumb. He didn't even know that the bonds are in Euros. He didn't know that they are under English law. Like all yanks.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @2
    You're not really British are you amigo?

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • british bomber

    at 3
    Can't answer so all you can do is accuse me of not being British. You aren't British. If you were you wouldn't be sticking up for yank Wall St robber barons. Look at what they did to Britain in the gr.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @2 & 4. Actually, real British people tend to be pretty keen on law, order and justice. The law on this matter is quite clear, as has been demonstrated and explained many times. Making argieland pay is only natural justice. As for order. Well, a competent judge, in a competent court in the competent jurisdiction has made an order.

    Are you advising “granny”, if she exists? Then note that “The judge further added that any entity that aids Argentina in its efforts to move jurisdiction would also be in violation of his sentence.” You and “granny” are entities. You know how the current UK-US extradition law works. The US only has to show “reasonable suspicion”. Then the police turn up and away you go to the States.

    I do think Judge Griesa is being remarkably patient. But let's all wonder who knows more about the law, Capitanich or Judge Griesa!

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #3 when they hot topic was the Falklands, they accused us all of being a Brit. NOW.....the hot button is the USA and Griesa about the default, so naturally everyone is being accused of being a Yank........lol. Look at Hep C's (#4) other posts..........it's accusing everyone even Anglotino of being a Yank.

    Argentina troll logic.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • british bomber

    at 6
    You have no answer your so dumb. You accuse me of not being British. You accuse me of being somebody else. Because you have nothing else. I don't know who hep c or anglitino are. They are not me. Stupid yank.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Even Griesa is laughing now!!

    :-)

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #7 HEP C

    NO ANSWER.....TO WHAT QUESTION.....you didn't ask me a question. Ask me a question and email it to

    m.cher1160@outlook.com

    You are quite the moron if in the other article you do not recall call Anglo a yank..........Troy......I am PSML at BB......jajajajajajajajajaja

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • british bοmber

    at 8 you are a dumb yank too. All you stupids can do is question if I am British because you have no answers. I grew up in Hull eating chips with mashy peas.

    Just because you support the robber barron sceptic tank judge don't make you more Brit than me.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Muppet_Paster

    lol

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    http://www.bloomberg.com/video/argentina-may-devalue-peso-again-G6_Vbiz2SWmuGSC_rArNUA.html

    Argentina may devalue Peso again...

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • commonsparrow

    They can scream, make posters, make protests, go on TV, write ads, justify, send notes around, make laws, write booklets..... as long as there is no settlement, there won't be contempt. Once an illegal SETTLEMENT is made, then they are gonna know the deal....

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Troy in the 60s during the protests of the Vietnam war.....the chant was ....“The whole world's watch”, Argentina gave it a new flavor

    “THE WHOLE WORLDS LAUGHING....THE WHOLE WORLD”S LAUGHING”

    Argentina is not in on the joke, they are the joke.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @ 10 Are you sure you are a Brit? Your spelling is a bit suspicious?

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Rotting roadkill is so ignorant.

    The bonds are a two party agreement.

    In order to susequently modify their terms the acquiesence of both parties is required.

    What fool - with access to current history - would willing comply with this request.

    More stalling.

    More historonics.

    Same result: Rotting roadkill circling the drain ccw.

    ----------------------------------------

    Hedge funds are quietly lining up the acceleration participation.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    10 Hepatia / British Bomber

    “at 8 you are a dumb yank too. All you stupids can do is question if I am British because you have no answers. I grew up in Hull eating chips with mashy peas. ”

    Captain Poppy

    LOL, I'M laughing at HEP/BB now, as well !!!

    HepC/ B-boy,
    Do you eat bungers & mush, as well???

    You're as much a Brit as I am a Yank

    ja ja ja ja ja ja ja..... ........!!

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Ok this is for all you other Anglo's ........have you ever used a phrase like .....“robber barron”? Does it not sound like from someone who has English as a Second Language (ESL)? I definitely despite our yanks and brits differences in the English language using the phrase “robber barron” just sounds so naive to the language. BB/Hep C is definitely not someone with English as their natural born language.

    Hell.....what do I know....

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • british bοmber

    at dumb yank 17
    Any true Brit knows its burgers and mush not “bungers” . I am laughing at you with your dumb yank spelling.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Muppet_Paster

    @19
    We know who you are.
    Loser.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    Troy, you have to laugh at “british bοmber”, he dose not realise how stupid he actually is, you were far to subtle for him.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/wto-argentina-us.xgp

    Argentina broke Global Trade Rules - WTO

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    The boy was not educated anywhere in the Commonwealth of Nations, that's for certain.
    ...More likely in a south Miami public school...

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McCool

    @19
    I think you'll find its BANGERS AND MASH and not “ burgers and mush”. We are all laughing at your dumb argentine spelling. Lol

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    It seems Argentina lost another one in the WTO with the USA, EU and Japan.

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/167775/-wto-rules-against-argentina-in-import-restrictions-case

    There's an old saying, when one person calls you a duck you laugh, when two call you a duck, you look puzzled but then everyone calls you a duck....it's time to start quacking.

    People in Argentina if you really want this path Kirchner has chosen for you....do nothing, otherwise I would be all over your elected representatives (you say you are a democracy) screaming them to remove her and change the course of this mad, self destruction.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @24

    You have a basic lack of understanding of human psychology. When a human being feels threatened on all sides, it does not amenably change philosophy. I will retrench and double down on the philosophy they are holding on to.

    The Argentine people THIS TIME unlike other times are doing nothing because to us it seems the entire world from WTO, to UN, to EU, to USA, to MERCOSUR, to China, are acting against us, and as a result we will go down with the ship if necessary.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    If you understand ANYTHING, then I suggest you sit down and have a serious group discussion with all of you and determine what your malfunction is. Somewhere inside of you, the best person will remain.......or be killed off. In the meantime, when there is one person out of 217 and that one person claims all 216 has a problem........it is well known where the problem lies.

    I think at this point tobi.....your momma abandoned you.

    You're ignorant
    ill educated
    unworldly
    isolated
    poor
    angry
    anti-social
    and most likely alone

    Safe up some money and go get laid before your balls fall off.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    CFK has just appointed a minister of debts, and a minister of blame,

    after all someone had to take the can..

    and she will blame them..lol

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    23. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Hurtful. Even Dade Country produces better than this.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Be fair, he speaks eight languages.

    We all know what that means.

    He can communicate the shit in eight mediums.

    Does that mean that eight times the people, think he's still a ferkin idiot???

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Chronic
    My apologies to the Dade County school educators for defaming them.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    “mashy peas”
    “sceptic tank”
    “Burgers and mush”

    Some mistakes stick out like dog's balls. The above are prime examples of what people think they hear.

    Aug 22nd, 2014 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    'british bomber' is as british as the pink panther (or maybe pink puma?)...

    he's da-dumb

    da-dumb

    da-dumb, da-dumb, da-dumb, da-dumb, da duuuuuuuumb

    da-dumb, da-dumb!

    at least he is if he thinks calling someone dumb is at all common anywhere in Europe.

    Aug 23rd, 2014 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Poppy, Leiard, McCool, Anglotino, and others

    OMG!! LOL!
    PSML .... he actually took the bait and bit HARD !!!

    he deserves to be ridiculed, when he's that arrogant and ignorant at the same time.

    ROFLMAO :-D

    Aug 23rd, 2014 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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