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HMS Iron Duke visits Namibia; next calls South Africa and Falklands

Saturday, August 23rd 2014 - 06:23 UTC
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HMS Iron Duke on Atlantic Patrol Tasking South, which includes the Falklands and South Georgia Islands, has visited the Namibian port of Walvis Bay where she has built on relations with the country’s Navy and its people. Read full article


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  • Briton

    Another tour of the south Atlantic for the royal navy,

    and good luck to them,

    just wait for CFK to start

    Aug 23rd, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Iron Duke is a good ship of her class and reputedly one of the fastest of her class.

    Type 23's are brilliant all-round ships and nice places to live!

    HMS Iron Duke was originally called HMS Duke (with the first ship bearing that name) but during the first ships build the nickname 'Iron Duke' was given and the name stuck!

    Aug 23rd, 2014 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    But, Briton
    Why would they be jealous?
    The Argentina Navy have themselves made ports of call to the continent of Africa. One was a frigate to South Africa and the other was to Ghana. ...Both had extensive port calls...

    Aug 23rd, 2014 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    Aye - To have your Navy's most advertised ship seized in any port world wide?
    And in this case because they couldn't afford to pay the GPA standard fees?

    What an embarrassment that would be to any honourable group of people.

    But the RG's? - No - Were not going to pay a bunch of black people are we!

    How dare they seize our ship!

    The Ghanan Ports Authority of course acted in the same manner as any port world wide. in exactly the same manner as a restaurant Manager would if a table of guests tried to leave after eating, without paying the bill.


    Aug 24th, 2014 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    This incident was a huge victory for Singer. Although the ship eventually was released, CFK had her nose rubbed, in you know what, before the world.
    The current condition of the Argentine fleet is criminal.

    Aug 24th, 2014 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @5. And that is part of the operation. To let the argie “navy”, heh, heh, heh, see a proper warship that floats!

    Aug 24th, 2014 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2


    Poor Brits, I must admit that I have overestimated them so much. How al Baghdadi is taking them for such fools is amazing me when they just don’t get it the UK is set to become a Islamic country in the next 40 years or so.

    What are you guys going to do?? Send the SAS team after each British jihadists assassin in Syria that goes viral on internet when these people already run your own streets and are brought up there??

    It’s about keeping appearances for the British government when the problem is at home in your own cities, laws, media and politically correct dogmas and your inability to admit that Multiculturalism has utterly failed and that you are inevitably doomed.

    And what have you got?? Another warship ??

    Aug 24th, 2014 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Are they looking for jihad John and his British friends?

    Aug 24th, 2014 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Yes they are... al-Baghdadi is going attempt to ambush them. The ISIS leader clearly knows how to play with western sensibilities and is clearly setting their agenda. The guy is 3 steps ahead of the UK gov’t. But it is unbelievable that the British ambassador to the US blows away to the press a SAS operative to capture the British jihadist.

    Clearly the poodle of the US is embarrassed with what it created, but the hard reality is that these people are already in control of their own streets.

    Aug 24th, 2014 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    The UK will never be a muslin state,
    to be fair????? and in the name of peace ,friends ,human rights ,
    And appeasements, you have more chance of the Westminster government being converted .lol and you can bet Galloway and the libdems will support it....

    03==Why would they be jealous

    CFK would love to have our navy,lolol

    Aug 24th, 2014 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Is it un Islamic to behead someone swiftly with a Sharp long knife or machete in the United Sultanate of Great Britanistan?? Does that go against sharia law wich oblidges the knife of the executioner to be 6 cm long and 0,4 cm thick, what is Anjem Choudary teachings on this very controversial issue?? Is it offensive to Muslims to ask for a swift execution??

    Aug 24th, 2014 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    No idea ?

    Aug 24th, 2014 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    You seem to know about Sharia Law, are you one of the brotherhood ?
    Do not despair, it will reach Argentina shortly and you have NOTHING to fight against it..Enjoy !

    Aug 24th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    I don’t see how that can happen, like Sarah Brightman says “There is an Ocean between us” and them Muslims and Argentina society will never be as stupid and politically correct to give itself as the UK did. We don’t have the same guilt code as you do. And if we ever get rich country and age again we will simply use latam labour force supply.

    Now I certainly don’t trust Britain as a future Muslim power, but hopefully you will no longer be a power when Muslims are in control

    Aug 24th, 2014 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR


    WTF is the matter with you or are you having a Giraffe? You don't usually come over as a pillock, not to me anyway.

    The UK is already (belatedly) deciding what to do with the so called Brits who are fighting in Syria. If David Davies has his way they will all have their British Citizenship revoked whether born in the UK or not. Of course the “lawyers” (who are invariably utter cowards and often wrong) are claiming it is unlawful. Well they would wouldn’t they.

    Read it for yourself:

    Aug 24th, 2014 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Sarah Brightman ? Argentina will never be as are there already in the stupidity stakes....just look at your country !
    It is also plainly obvious that you have no feeling of guilt about anything.

    Don't you already have a Muslim population of 1.9% of the population as compared to the UK's 2.7% . Give or take a few decades you will see a dramatic increase in yours as by then, the UK will not be a welcoming society. As I said, enjoy your fate.

    Aug 24th, 2014 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Please meet jihad John from West London. The new Britain..

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Obviously you are completely clueless and outdated with your numbers, you are using the 2001 census numbers for Britain and the 2010 census for Argentina. UK Muslims are round about 5% of total ppl. Only by birth rates -not counting immigration trends, conversion rates- you will have near 10% by 2030. In those following years a significant population of white Brits will die out leaving no descendents or one kid per couple. by 2050 its very likely you will have a majority Muslim country.

    LOL, have you even seen Argentinas ppl pyramid?? Yours should be like Italy's but with massive open door immigration it has remained constant.

    In Argentina Muslim neighbourhoods and cities dont exist. 1 % was historically the number of “Muslims” in Argentina. But if we had someone like Anjem Choudary or any cleric preaching terrorism and taking us for the same kind of idiots we would have thrown him off a helicopter into the River Plate years ago.

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    @ every single person posting here.

    You. Are. Going. to. Have. Islam. In. your. Country. Soon. Beware........

    Unless you live in Israel of course.

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    19 EscoSes
    Of curse, who wouldn't like to have “the religion of peace” nearby, lol
    We can see what a wonderful job this extremist are doing in Britain.

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Everywhere EXCEPT Angola, the Vatican and the DPRK...
    Israel has and will continue to have no matter which borders are established.
    In the UK it's getting to be frightening...

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 04:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    @20 Zander

    You are a Moron.

    You are in the UK right now are you not?

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 05:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    … .meanwhile, British warships and subs rule the South Atlantic waves :) lol!

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15


    The verdict
    Birth rates among native-born women are currently low across most of Europe and the developed world in general.

    Demographers think a fertility rate of about 2.1 children per woman on average is necessary for the population of a developed country to sustain itself.

    Most of the “native” populations of Europe are failing to have enough children, while birth rates are higher among Muslim immigrant populations, so it seems inevitable that the British Muslim population will rise in the coming decades.

    But it’s equally clear that the gap in fertility between Muslim and non-Muslim will continue to lessen over time, as it has in recent decades.

    Mr Cooper suggests that there are “strong cultural reasons for higher Muslim birth rates”, but this ignores the fact that birth rates have fallen dramatically in many Muslim countries.

    FactCheck wouldn’t bet on the British Muslim population ever topping 10 per cent, let alone 50 per cent.

    By Patrick Worrall

    Now WHY should I believe an Argentinian on this subject ?
    Let's face it, you have no idea of what the demographics will be in 50
    years in your own country neVer mind the UK.

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Radical muslims in controll of UK streets?

    Not true. The odd time when few idiots make a little noise does happen, but they are not in control of the streets.
    The British will never let a single minority control them, or have power over the majority. The UK is tolerant, some think too tolerant, but stupid or unaware? No.
    To extrapolate that this minority will someday become the majority is also muddled-thinking and highly unlikely.
    Some people had the same fears about Irish/Jews/Afro-Carribeans/Sikhs/Hindus/Polish etc.

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Because you live in cu-cu land on this exact subject... Like most of your media does, thats why.
    Ohhh and you have decided to use HamasNiesund's own links. I already went over this same channel 4 link. That doesnt even count continued immigration and convesion rates!!! (As I said to you earlier)
    It doesnt even consider 1st generation immigrants do have the same rates as they do in their home country. Its a load of libtard “feel good” balls.

    25... So why is the UK becoming a terrorist exporting country???

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Sorry, but the cuckoos LEFT at the end of July and are now in Africa.
    How are they in your country ? Still seem to be plenty about.
    Don't blame H. Nies. for “links”....I had no idea he had posted this but it came up when I looked for population increases. As I said already, you have NO IDEA what the population of Muslims in the UK will be in decades and you are making an ignorant assumption that they all want sharia law and to turn the world into a Caliphate.
    Christian fundamentalists are equally as scary.
    You also make the assumption that the Muslim population in Argentina will be totally loving and harmless. Will they ? Will they really?
    By your logic all Muslims want to impose their beliefs on the rest of the world. What is the difference in Argentina or are you back to one-way helicopter trips. ?

    I see you neatly turned the subject round from a warship visiting Africa and the S.Atlantic to world domination by Muslims. What- a- boutery in the extreme.

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Muslims will never reach to conquer and populate anywhere in the Americas to the stage they have done in Europe, not even in the US and Canada. The reason is geopolitical. There is an Ocean in between the middle East and the new world. Muslim countries import half of their calories, trade and international links will be much more localized in a medium term future due to the Shale revolution and 3D printing. Travel and immigration will be far more expensive. Even more starvation, religious and sectarian conflict will be the trend of these already very young countries. Millions more will be forced to migrate and North Western Europe is there obvious close by target as laws are very flexible and growing and established communities already exist in Sweden, UK Belgium, France and Holland.

    As I explained to you earlier, not only geography shields Argentina -we- our culture is far more stronger and rigid. Or you integrate or you are sidelined. Catholic and Mediterranean Europe has a far longer history of fighting Muslims than libertarian and protestant Europe. You can already see this in Italy, Spain and Greece whom with far more pressing economic crisis there has not being social explotions and out brakes like Paris 2005, London 2011 or Stockholm 2013 simply because there is no significant % of Muslims or other minorities in these countries like there is North.

    The most reason I believe you are ultimately on the extinction path, is not because of the Muslims themselves, the real reason why I can know for certain is because of talking with people like yourself, HamasNiesund or ilsen or reading your media spin listening to your libtard politicians and judging theiir actions.
    Pity you will be dead in 2050. Still there will be plenty of sourcesby then still saying “I told you so”.

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    As you say...“you believe”....that does not make it true. It is ONE possibility but not a certainty.
    Immigration laws can be changed. You may have noticed that Britain is an island and unless they learn to walk on water they cannot land here in any great numbers without approval.. You make the mistake of thinking Muslims are one homogenised group. There are many different sects and nationalities that cannot stand each other There is a possibility that they could wipe each other out.
    I think this discussion has reached an impasse. You have fixed beliefs on the subject and I happen to think the opposite, Neither of us can win because until it happens or does not, it is pure conjecture.
    I could equally surmise that a huge meteorite could land on Mecca and solve the problem you envisage. Anyway, I am not bothered for me and mine.

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @15. CapezaDura2 looks like a TobiTitTroll. At least I shall treat it as such. Come to think of it, why does anybody “discuss” anything with the TitTroll? Not as though it's got a brain. Despite it's so-called “languages”. A few minutes and I can post comments in several languages. Online translators are wonderful, aren't they? Have to admit that I wondered when I got to @7. By @9, it was obvious. A hack.

    But let's give a little answer to @28. Here in Britain, the “people” believe in annihilation. We also believe in “transportation”. Hey ho, another destination for Islamic nutters that we don't feel like killing. Latin america. We can stand back and watch how a bunch of supposedly “Christian” genocidal xenophobes get on with a bunch of supposedly “Islamic” genocidal xenophobes. Who knows. Maybe “normal” muslims are actually normal. A nice offshore blockade force. A no-fly zone. Nothing crosses the Panama Canal. Maybe it could be televised. A little international dispute? Drop the politicians from both sides into latin america.

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Clyde, its not an impass you have lost right from the start when you where like “Ohh wait butArgentina has 1,9% and they will be coming for you too”. Now you are in denial as most of the liberal brits and that is the reason why you are doomed.

    That there is 400 British jihadist in ISIS that is not my opinion, that is FACT.

    That systematic child abuse and grooooming of young girls is pandemic in the UK and perpetraited by Muslims and other minorities is also FACT

    What Muslims truly believe about democracy, terrorism and Islam is also fact that is followed by security agencies and intelligence analysts

    Like Pat Condell calls British society ” A society of cowards

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Clyde. Thank you for your sensible words.
    Cabeza Dura. You have got this badly wrong. 400 impressionable idiots out of a population of 68 million is nothing. Is 800 neo-fascist impressionable idiots gonna change the society?
    Equally you make the classic mistake of believing that all Muslims are seeking the imposition of sharia law.
    You deeply underestimate British culture and society.
    You sound like paulcedron more every day.

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Some tend to vastly overestimate the jihadist,
    and vastly underestimate the British,
    our government might be a bit backwards in coming forwards,
    but this tolerant will soon be intolerable and action will be taken..

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Yes, yes ilsen always a fringe and very insignificant portion of Muslims.........and cows fly too!

    Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK

    One in four British Muslims believe that last year's 7/7 attacks on London were justified because of British support for the U.S.-led war on terror.

    Sixty-eight percent support the arrest and prosecution of those British people who “insult Islam.” When asked if free speech should be protected, even if it offends religious groups, 62 percent of British Muslims say No, it should not.

    One in four Muslims sympathises with motives of terrorists

    Now because you dont agree with me you have decided to brand me a paulcedron.

    Aug 25th, 2014 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Interesting figures...sooo.....
    3 out of four ..75% of British Muslims believe that last year's 7/7 attacks on London were unjustified....
    Three out of four..75% of Muslims do not sympathise with motives of terrorists...

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    And 3 out of 4 Muslims do nothing to stop the 1 from supporting terrorism and engage in these activities.

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Have you ever thought of the possibility that in 50 years time,Muslims in Britain and Europe may start to abandon their faith and become secular ? 60 years ago, Britain was considered a Christian country with widespread church attendance and belief in God.
    Now Christians are in a small minority. This has happened in two generations. It could just as easily happen in the Muslim population in the UK.
    There has been a significant Jewish population in the UK for centuries.
    They carry out their religious practices without calls for the establishment of Jewish laws or customs to be made mandatory on the main population.
    Why do you think Muslims are any different? Young men are usually stupid and will grab any cause that suits them. The bulk of them grow up and join mainstream society and conform with the norms of their situations.
    As to opinion polls, I don't believe a word of them. Ask a few people and extrapolate their replies to the population as a whole ?

    You are perfectly correct in that many Muslims do not come out against terrorism and violence. One of the problems with this religion is that there is NO centralised interpretation of the Q'oran. Each semi literate can take out a passage to suit his prejudices and act on it waving the book as proof. The Christian tradition, exemplified by the Roman Catholic Church is a hierarchical structure with a credo handed down through office bearers to the followers with interpretations which must be accepted.

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    A little levity from Canada:

    Jiggs McDonald, NHL Hall of Fame broadcaster speaking in Ontario, says, “I am truly perplexed that so many of my friends are against another mosque being built in Toronto. I think it should be the goal of every Canadian to be tolerant regardless of their religious beliefs. Thus the mosque should be allowed, in an effort to promote tolerance.”

    ”That is why I also propose that two nightclubs be opened next door to the mosque; thereby promoting tolerance from within the mosque. We could call one of the clubs, which would be gay, “The Turban Cowboy,” and the other, a topless bar, would be called “You Mecca Me Hot.”

    “Next door should be a butcher shop that specializes in pork, and adjacent to that an open-pit barbecue pork restaurant, called ”Iraq of Ribs.”

    “Across the street there could be a lingerie store called ”Victoria Keeps Nothing Secret,“ with sexy mannequins in the window modelling the goods.”

    ”Next door to the lingerie shop there would be room for an adult sex toy shop, “Koranal Knowledge,” its name in flashing neon lights, and on the other side a liquor store called “Morehammered.”

    ”All of this would encourage Muslims to demonstrate the tolerance they
    demand of us.”

    Yes, we should promote tolerance, and you can do your part by passing this on. And if you are not laughing or smiling at this point ... it is either past your bedtime, or it's midnight at the oasis and time to put your camel to bed!

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    No, because the Muslims that had already immigrated to Western Europe in the last 50 years or so should have gone throw the same process of “secularization” by now... Now British schools cant even teach darwinism and evolution, so the trend is reverse, not positive.

    Being Muslim and secular is an oxymoron. And they explain this vey well themselves.
    The shaykh makes it absolutely clear himself much better than I do. This speaks volumes

    Anjem Choudary was born in the UK. So you cant deport him to Egypt, Yemen, Argelia or wherever. MI5 should have dropped him and his followers into the Thames years ago. It would have being far cheaper than sending an SAS team for each idiot that shows up on an ISIS video in the land of al-Sham.

    So far that you never have the balls and the decency to admit that you have a problem and that you fail as a whole to send a messege to the Muslim community that your culture is superior and more advanced and humane than theres you are inevitably and on fast track to extintion.

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Now British schools cant even teach darwinism and evolution, so the trend is reverse, not positive.

    Where did you hear this piece of nonsense. I presume from this that you live in the UK and have family in education there.
    My grand daughter, at school in Edinburgh, has been taught about Darwinism and evolution in her science studies. They also do studies on comparative religions.

    Britain has signed the convention on human rights and must abide by court's decisions on this matter. However distasteful this may be and obviously foreign to an Argentinian's viewpoint, until we abrogate the Human rights Act, we must conform or else we will end up chucking anyone the government doesn't like out of helicopters like a S.American country did.

    You seem to have a special dislike for Muslims and think that they want to take over the world. It's the small minority who cause the problem while the rest want to get on with their lives.

    This is a rather pointless discussion as neither side can prove have your prejudices and I have mine...end of story.

    Meanwhile the Iron Duke is continuing with her patrol making friends and influencing people.

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton


    Aug 26th, 2014 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Evolution is not compulsory in schools of the UK that is a FACT you lying retard! I have seen this in a Richard Dawkins documentary much to my amazement. They have even bullied schools to not teach chapters in history like the Crusades.

    “This is a rather pointless discussion as neither side can prove have your prejudices and I have mine...end of story.”

    No Clyde, you are wrong. I have already provided tons of evidence, sources, numbers facts and you on the other hand have failed to do so to backup your politically correct nonsense. Don't level me with you on this.

    Enjoy Britanistan

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Cabeza Dura , let me help you with your deep fears for, and rather shallow understanding of, British culture.
    During the Spanish Civil War many young British went off to fight against Franco. Some people feared they would return home and fight for a UK communist state.
    At another time the Fascist Brown shirts were on the rise in east London. It was feared that they would become Hitler's 'Fifth Column'.

    Currently there is a fashion for a very, very few angry, disaffected young Muslims to run away from their families to go and play at war in the desert.
    Soon reality will come screaming out of the sky.

    Equally, I have met many young people whose parents are Muslims but these youth are highly secular. Just as many 'Christians' only marry in a church or only go at Christmas, so do these youth only pay lip service.

    Yes, Britain must be watchful and careful but we are pretty expert at that. So, thanks for your concern, but it is misplaced.
    You seriously underestimate the British. Which actually makes us happy and smug.
    This is just the way we like it. All happy and kind, gracious and tolerant, paying out the rope until someone thinks they can go too far.
    Then they are hanged.
    Hope that helps!

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Some people just don't understand us,
    this is also fact,

    boy if Cameron has trouble understanding himself foreigners have no ruddy

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    No, no no love... You see you already are becoming a terrorist exporting country. School by school, neighbourhood by neighbourhood, city by city, law by law you are becoming a muslim country. Trends are trends. And your inability to tackle it or to accept that you have a problem is evidence enough for me that Islam will take over Britain and Western Europe. Its this same reason we are having this conversation.

    Ride the tiger's back, end up in his belly.

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Meanwhile back on topic,

    HMS Iron Duke has proudly sailed into Cape Town

    Atlantic Patrol Tasking South
    Ships and units on Atlantic Patrol Tasking (South) provide ongoing protection and reassurance to British interests in the South Atlantic, maintaining the continuous Royal Naval presence in the Atlantic
    Royal navy, doing what it does best,
    • Seawolf Guided missile
    Seawolf is the shield of Britain's frigate fleet against air attack. In service more than 30 years it has proven itself in battle and remains a potent weapon to this day
    • Harpoon Long range anti-ship missile
    Harpoon is the long range lance of the Type 23 Frigate, capable of destroying enemy ships far beyond the horizon.
    Type 23 Frigate
    Duke Class


    Aug 26th, 2014 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    ← Doesn't care

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Did you actually read what I said or have you a comprehension problem.
    NOWHERE did I say that evolution or Darwinism is compulsory in “UK” schools.
    I said quite correctly that my Grand daughter has been taught this at her secondary school, James Gillespies High School and you have the brass neck to call me a liar ?
    Well retarded thicko I presume you also believe in the Easter Bunny.
    Are you in fact Jose Malverino ? You spout the same nonsense as he does down to the same insults.
    What do you know of the British education system....there is no such thing !
    ENGLAND has it's education system run by the state and also numerous private schools run by the Anglican Church, Roman Catholic Church and any other organisation who meet the educational requirements.
    SCOTLAND....note Edinburgh is in Scotland and they have a different education system and curriculum to that of ENGLAND !!
    NB THERE IS NO BRITISH EDUCATION SYSTEM. Do you wish me to repeat this as you probably need this twice to enter through the density of bone in your skull.
    By the way,your name translated means ............
    stubborn /or [familiar/colloquial] pigheaded.
    I can't argue with that one !!!!!!!

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Well there you go, the fact that evolution is not compulsory in schools at this day an age is the whole point, you are just bending over backwards to fit in everyone and not to alter anyones sensibilities. The coalition govt' promised to make evolution teaching compulsory in 2009 and then the whole idea was stalled by labour in 2010. Otherwise I dont really care about the minutiae about education in Britan/England/ Scotland and what and where your grand daughter is teached and I dont see what has any of the stuff you asy got to do.

    You have a problem in accepting facts and providing a backed up argument.
    And you know me by now, I have accepted many things about Argentina and I have to sideline many offensive comments because ultimately they have a point. That doesnt mean to say Im not going to stuff the ugly truth up your arrogant British arses from time to time too

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Well there you go, ignore the facts about the education system in the UK.
    The coalition have NO SAY in what is taught in Scottish schools.
    The Westminster government can only dictate what is done in England and Wales, NOT Scotland, ERGO, they have no remit here.
    There is NO nationwide curriculum for “British schools” I am sorry if you cannot grasp this fundamental point.
    Get your facts right before you post any more incorrect generalities.
    You obviously have no clue how the education system in this island works.
    If it what you said was the truth then I would accept it , God knows there is enough wrong in this country that needs changing.
    Back to what you called me a liar when I pointed out the actual facts. All you have said is I don't care what the facts are in this case, I know better than you.
    Well you don't.

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Ohh well.... Jeez is evolution teaching cumpolsory in Scotland (not UK?? or UK ???) here have a coookie. Idiot.

    Scotland is what 5.1 MM people?? But the rest of the 58 MM country abide by the same coalition rules. And perhaps Scotlands curriculum is the same copy -pasted shit anyway. So fuck Scotland.

    It was me who pointed UK schools that dont teach evolution and that is a FACT, you never made the destinction between Scotlands system and the rest of the country when you mentioned your granddaughter, but rather used your own grand daughter school as an counter argument as for the whole of the UK with out checking the FACTS...

    Aug 26th, 2014 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    CD2 Don't want to piss on your parade, but...
    or maybe
    oh go on, one last one

    And if you want to troll through the key stage 3 document found here...
    I'll give you a clue, page 7 under....'Genetics and Evolution'

    CD2 ...'Evolution is not compulsory in schools of the UK that is a FACT you lying retard'. Now it took me all of 2 mins to find the above info, it appears that teaching Evolution is indeed compulsory in Primary education in England and Wales. (CD2 we are in 2014 now, you do know that right? it seems your computer only searches to 2011.)
    I am either party to information that CD2 is unable to access or he is just not that keen on researching the facts.

    Aug 27th, 2014 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter


    I've missed most of this conversation but it is utter bullshit to suggest that schools in England and Wales don't have to teach evolution (as part of my job I need to keep on top on the secondary science curriculum). As #52 has pointed out above it is included in both the Key Stage 1 and 2 (Primary School) and Key Stage 3 (lower secondary) curriculum. This is evident in the document linked to above. Moreover, evolution is also compulsory in Key Stage 4 (upper secondary) in that it is included in the single award science GCSE (which is the minimum science possible at that level 4).

    So CD2 you are speaking bullshit.

    Aug 27th, 2014 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    OK I got it outdated....As of September 2013 there was a new curriculum that hasn't even being implemented yet! They will just go to Muslim schools where they teach them to hate jews and their own stuff.

    So its all debunked. Britain is not an terrorist exporting country, the beheading of Thomas Foley is a fraud, there is no sharia gangs in London, no sharia courts in Britain. There is no systematic grooming and abuse of young women and teens in all of the country by Muslim gangs. Somehow the UK will never be a Muslim majority country in the next, what 30, 40 years even though only by birth rates the local Muslim population is set to reach 10 - 15 % by 2030 ??.. Congratulations

    Aug 27th, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Britain is not an terrorist exporting country
    Somehow the UK will never be a Muslim majority

    you could have saved all that time and

    Aug 27th, 2014 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Wake up and smell the coffee you already are a exporting country FACT. 20% of European ISIS terrorists are British the majority of them. RT

    There is more UK Muslims willing to join ISIS than joining the British Armed forces according to Douglas Murray.

    There is more British citizens in ISIS than French citizens, considering that France is even in a state of more advanced decadence and islamification than the UK is.

    Aug 27th, 2014 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Tut tut,
    but have you though of the future,
    if and when the ISIS takes over Europe, they may well be heading straight for

    Aug 27th, 2014 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    No, why Argentina?? Before so I predict that by the end this century Northwestern Islamic Europe allied with the Middle East and North Africa will enter open confrontation with Mediterranean, Orthodox and Catholic Europe Italy, Greece, Spain, Hungary, Poland, Portugal Serbia, Croatia the last free strongholds of Christian Europe by then.

    Aug 27th, 2014 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    this group have vowed to run the world,
    thus Argentina and south America will be in its sights,

    we thinks they will be destroyed long before they reach the Nile.

    Aug 27th, 2014 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Wrong; Islam has vowed to run the world

    Aug 27th, 2014 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Islam or those who misinterpret it.

    or shall we say, the extremists.

    Aug 27th, 2014 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    This man can answer your question much better than I can

    Aug 27th, 2014 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    We all are goner regret what we have all sown,
    for the victors will be the glorious dead,

    just a deadly thought.

    Aug 28th, 2014 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Now up to 1,000 Britons and UK residents have now joined the extremists (DM)

    Pakistani gangs abused up to 1400 girls since 97 and the authorities and Muslim councils did nothing.

    You are totally fked as a country!!!

    Aug 28th, 2014 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    “There is more UK Muslims willing to join ISIS than joining the British Armed forces according to Douglas Murray. ”

    ...great news..don't they blow themselves up as suicide bombers.....problem solved...

    Aug 30th, 2014 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Douglas Murray's figures have been updated to over a k British muslims fighting in ISIS, when he made that interview it was around 400 British terrorists..

    Britain elevated the terror threat to “severe” today.

    And what happened to the SAS team in the Islamic State?? Have they found LJinny yet Or have they lost their heads in the process after the UK ambassador to the United States sold them off??

    Now I just dont understand why are you keen to follow the Americans back in to another bombing campaign when clearly you are up to you necks at home where the real issue is. Ohh well, nice knowing you.

    Aug 30th, 2014 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Ooh! Nearly a thousand! A thousand idiots from a multicultural population of 68 million. Not much is it really?
    Off they go to die in the desert....
    Good Riddance, say I.

    Aug 30th, 2014 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    Since you hate the UK so much, - Why not convert to Islam, and leave The pope behind?
    By the way, Islam will probably own you very soon regardless of where you are.

    Your only hope is to wear a kilt, and carry a dirk,- They will leave you alone then, as things they cant understand scare them......

    Aug 30th, 2014 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    I stand fo freedom and western values my friend. You no longer do as a country.

    Aug 30th, 2014 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 69 CabezaDura2
    “I stand fo freedom and western values my friend. You no longer do as a country.”

    How can you reconcile that statement with living in Argentina?

    It is most certainly not free, nor is it western.

    Panic stricken, yes, and I can understand that.

    Aug 30th, 2014 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    I was talking on a personal level for myself.

    Btw Argentina was founded based on libertarian constitutions and enlightenment ideas of France and the United States.. It wasnt always a peronist and socialist beacon.

    Aug 30th, 2014 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 71 CabezaDura2
    “Btw Argentina was founded based on libertarian constitutions and enlightenment ideas of France and the United States.. It wasnt always a peronist and socialist beacon.”

    I realize that and it is beyond my comprehension why the vast majority of the citizens aren't revolting in the streets and hanging the entire government by their necks from roadside furniture just to get THEIR country back.

    Aug 30th, 2014 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    We have tried that. We now seem to think or have being brainwashed to believe that it is undemocratic to ask the gov't to step down.

    mind you ten years ago it was un thinkable of condeming peronism, talk to anyone in the streets nowadays or vist Argentine forums and you will see that a lot of fingers are being pointing at peronism... It is a start.

    Aug 30th, 2014 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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