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Knee Defender causes incident in airliner and forces an unscheduled stop

Wednesday, August 27th 2014 - 20:52 UTC
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An airliner has been diverted after a row broke out over one passenger's use of a device to prevent the seat in front of him from reclining. A male and female passenger were involved in a heated dispute last Sunday, after the male passenger attached a Knee Defender to his seat. Read full article


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  • Briton

    Some planes are very tight, and the seats are far to small for leg room,

    perhaps the airlines should provide more room for all of us.

    Aug 27th, 2014 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    You can use the inflight magazine for that job... no evidence...worst case is 'oh sorry the magazine must have just slipped in there'... don't ask how I know this.......

    Aug 28th, 2014 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Ryanair will be charging for this as an optional extra now wh know about it!

    Aug 28th, 2014 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rick from Maryland

    Very rude of the person using that device. So...

    First. Verify that the perp behind you is using one (go to the toilet or check your overhead).
    Second. Wait until drinks are served.
    Finally. Try a couple times to ease back your seat... fair warning... then SLAM youself back into the seat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

    Aug 28th, 2014 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @4.... Yep slam your seat right back as soon as the seatbelt lights go out or half way through mealtime.. best when the person behind has just poured a glass of red.... truly arseholean behaviour.
    Why do arseholes have to have their seats in full recline in the middle of the day anyway? In Qantas if you complain about the person in front being a dickhead the flight attendant will slam their seat back into full upright with enough force to pop their fillings.
    This is one of the reasons I don't ride down the back of the plane anymore....

    Aug 28th, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @4 How about it if you are sitting in the last row in the plane, where seats do not recline, and the guy in front of you decides to recline somewhat agressively - which happens most of time - just while you are eating and lifting a glass of wine off your tray ? It happened to me once and before I could hold back, I'd poured the remainder of the contents of the glass of wine, on the idiots head....then, of course, I apologised profusely for the involuntary accident.....Needless to say, there was no more reclining during the flight.

    Aug 28th, 2014 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    Woman paid her cash for a seat with recline facility.

    If you want to go on a plane without reclining seats go find a different airline.

    Aug 28th, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    I always select the seat next to the escape doors....loads of legroom...
    ...and strangely enough most people don't want to sit there...
    ...and if I haven't pre-selected a seat, I purposely wait to the last second to board and usually end up with an upgrade...then I lie down and drink the champagne and get all the freebies....;-)
    ....they have to distribute the weight evenly throughout the plane...and they don't know till everyone has shown...that's why late is best....

    Aug 29th, 2014 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    And I paid for a seat with a little table in front of it ... that in daylight hours I could have a meal off , take a glass of wine without some wanker spilling it, and even maybe putting my laptop on it, filling in the arrival card, etc etc etc.... full recline is for night time when everyone will probably go the full recline... nobody objects to a bit of recline during the day.

    Aug 29th, 2014 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @7, don't get me wrong,, I've nothing against reclining's just the idiots who eventually sit in front of you who forget, or couldn't give a damn that there is someone sitting behind them....
    Or how about the jerk who sits behind you, who every time he stands up, just has to rattle the back of your seat, doing you the favour of waking you up ?

    Aug 29th, 2014 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    ... parents who let their kid use the recline button like a game ... and kids that use the seat in front like a session on a gym machine ...

    Jack, I have often been tempted - but the most I have done so far is my pop-up 'manic stare'. It usually works.

    Aug 29th, 2014 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @11 Geoff,
    I was once on a flight and the couple infront of me had a kid - about 6 I'd say - and the kid insisted on standing on the parents' seats, looking backwards straight into my face. I tried giving him no dice, so he started to let spit drop from his mouth on to my table...this carried on until I managed to catch his spittle in a spoon and flicked it bak into his face. He didn't like it, but stopped being a “pé no saco”...

    Aug 29th, 2014 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I don't travel in cattle class unless it is a short haul with no option. I don't know why people leave their manners behind when they board a plane. I do think the airlines pack people into such small spaces they become very territorial about their limits. I guess we have to balance short period of uncomforted with the low cost affordability for the majority.

    Most annoying is the people who try hard to avoid checking luggage even if it means taking up far more cabin space than is fairly theirs. Again, I blame the airlines for making checked luggage an extra.

    As I fly a lot I have pondered why people get so cross about the smallest things on planes. I think it has something to do with the past perception of flying being glamourous and adventurous when most of the time it is not a lot different to boarding a bus. Especially domestic flights.

    Aug 30th, 2014 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @13 ElaineB

    I completely concur with your above comments. Sometimes I wonder if people's emotional intellegence/empathy shrinks due to cabin pressure... Also it often seems that some parents consider the cabin crew and passengers to be de facto babysitters/entertainers whilst they get drunk/snooze.
    I get a litle irate at this myself...

    Aug 30th, 2014 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Much research on reducing the space available to populations of rats and monitoring their increasingly aberrant behaviour.
    Rats respond just like humans in Elaine's cattle class.
    Cattle would probably respond the same, but there are problems getting them up the steps and seated.

    Aug 31st, 2014 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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