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UK expertise to help Santiago's with a 'greener' public transport system
The British Embassy in Chile together with the Metropolitan Public Transportation Department (DTPM) and the consultant company Sistemas Sustentables Ltd., Chile hosted the workshop ‘Improving bus technology within the public transport system of Santiago’. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhy? Can't they source their own hibrid buses, why does our embassy feel the need to be getting involved with Chile's internal transport matters. Will the UK be being awarded the supply contract? Do we manufacture hibrid buses?
Aug 29th, 2014 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0My view is that our embassy should be concentrating on matters of a diplomatic nature.
@ 1
Aug 29th, 2014 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are there to help shed the cost of the ludicrous bus blondie has arranged for London.
More sales for its’ manufacturer means lower prices for TfL.
Thankfully still no news about No Money Pepe’s “order” for battery only powered buses for trunk routes in Uruguay. I think the guy who was to put the money up “The Ferry King” has had one of his engineers look at the stupidity of what has been claimed by Pepe and found it, as usual, a load of bollocks.
@1 Britworker
Aug 29th, 2014 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK embassy offers “Prosperity Funds” in many countries. Local groups or businesses apply for the funding awards. So it is the local applicant that defines the project specifics (in this case the introduction of hybrid bus for Santiago) not the embassy. The embassy choose which projects to fund.
The UK embassy does also arrange workshops and introductions for UK businesses looking for business leads.
Diplomacy and trade go hand in hand.
“UK expertise to help Santiago's with a 'greener' public transport system”
Aug 29th, 2014 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0must be a joke, no?
and what are the records of the uk about this matter?
these?:
“London air pollution 'worst in Europe'
Britain faces court cases and unlimited fines after dangerous levels of minute particles breach EU levels”
try to fix your own problems first before offering “help” to others, you imbeciles
Santiago's transit system is a world example of how NOT to plan a public bus system. Our beloved subway is falling behind and people are somewhat resigned to long uncomfortable commutes during rush times.
Aug 29th, 2014 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile had a plan to convert all it's busses and taxis over to run on clean gas from Argentina. We built a pipeline across the entire Andes, which was a marvel... ...then the Argentines shut off the gas.
@4. According to reports, EVERYTHING in argieland IS pollution. The buses belching black smoke. The GM agriculture. The railways. Maximo. La Campora. The electoral “system”. The effluent and sewage in the streets. The “villas”. The joke “economy”. The clinically obese, fat, greasy gits that try to excuse the “government”. Argieland has NO “government”. It has corrupt, criminal, larcenous, mendacious tosspots that are no better than the assholes that traded votes for food or money and pretended to “elect” them.
Aug 29th, 2014 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0According to data, argieland has 1,073,518 square miles of territory with a density of 37.3 per square mile. Leaving aside potential comments about argies and density, which part of which square mile do the honest, intelligent, reasonable Argentines reside in?
Amazingly, argieland's level of air is the same as the UK's. In other words, the UK packs 13,870 people into every square mile of London or 661.9 for each square mile of the UK. Buenos Aires packs in 37,000 per square mile or 37.3 per square mile of argieland. Nevertheless, argieland's deaths from air pollution (250-400 per million) is the same as the UK's. Seems like argieland reckons that disposing of the corpses is cheaper than clean air.
@4. Get your facts straight:
Aug 29th, 2014 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. That report is over 4 years old.
2. It states that London's air pollution is among the worst in Europe not the worst. I think Milan has that honour and Rome is also worse.
3. The report only covered cities in Western Europe, cities in Poland, Bulgaria etc are a hell of a lot worse.
4. It was published in The Guardian and therefore has zero credibility.
imbeciles 6 & 7
Aug 29th, 2014 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“London’s Dirty Secret: Pollution Worse Than Beijing’s
May 27, 2014 8:00 PM GMT-0300
London has a dirty secret.”
“Levels of the harmful air pollutant nitrogen dioxide at a city-center monitoring station are the highest in Europe. Concentrations are greater even than in Beijing, where expatriates have dubbed the city’s smog the “airpocalypse.””
imbeciles 6 & 7
“The most polluted street in the world is in LONDON: Oxford Street has highest levels of nitrogen dioxide, claims expert”
PUBLISHED: 11:30 GMT, 11 July 2014 | UPDATED: 15:18 GMT, 11 July 2014
“Scientist from King's College London recorded peak levels of 463 micrograms of nitrogen dioxide per cubic metre of air on Oxford Street
Shopping destination has an average of 135 milligrams of NO2 per cubic metre - over three times the higher than the EU’s safety limit
Pollutant's created by diesel fumes and can trigger asthma and heart attacks”
imbeciles 6 & 7
got it now?
It's just PR trying to pander to Chile in the hope they will lighten their view on the Falkland Islands. We do not need to be doing this, once the oil starts flowing these tin pot banana republics will be tripping over themselves to be nice to the Falkland Iskanders and get a slice of the action.
Aug 29th, 2014 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And if they don't....fuck em!
@8 mamarracho
Aug 29th, 2014 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would very interesting to know which publications actually carried these quotes.
What a boring pastime you have searching cyberspace for titbits of non-useful information about Britain's performance as judged against other countries.
Don't you have anything useful to do?
Bellend @ 8. Does your report say how long it took your expert to test every street in the World before coming to this conclusion?
Aug 29th, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Aug 29th, 2014 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://go.hrw.com/venus_images/0647MC30.gif
Aug 30th, 2014 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0CONSTANT ACID RAIN: Almost ALL of EUialand, NorthAmoland, Scandinavia, China, Colombia
ACID RAIN AT LEAST 20% OF RAIN DAYS: rest of EUialand, NorthAmoland, China, all of Japan
DANGER OF ACID RAIN: most of rest of non-Argentine Latin America
ACID RAIN FREE: ARGENTINA
Check mate. End of story.
There are lots of hybrid buses in London and the UK in general. I was on one recently. Very smooth, clean and comfortable. Here is an article from last year.
Aug 30th, 2014 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/transport/10085151/All-aboard-the-new-Routemaster-its-big-red-and-made-in-Britain.html
All part of the action being undertaken to actively reduce pollution. Unlike the inertia of Argentina in these matters.
The UK takes its environmental responsibility very seriously and is a global leader in the area. The UK is a major player in the fields of environmental research, development and manufacture. That is why the Chileans want UK involvement. Not too many experts in neighbouring countries I guess!
@13 Mamarracho #2
Aug 30th, 2014 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kindly produce proof of your most allegations.
Why would Argentina have to do anything to reduce pollution when there is none to reduce?
Aug 30th, 2014 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enjoy your next summer rain shower in Venezuela and Britain. I hear it is a natural “skin exfoliant”.
The most significant causes of air pollution in Buenos Aires stem from the high concentration of unregulated vehicle pollutants throughout the city during peak hour when it mixes with the emissions coming from the nearby power stations.
Aug 30th, 2014 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The main reason why NOx vehicle emissions are so high is because most vehicles in Buenos Aires are not installed with catalytic converters. The worst time for these types of emissions is during peak hour traffic times. http://www.world-weather-travellers-guide.com/causes-of-air-pollution.html
Deforestation and pollution are the main threats to Argentina's biodiversity and landscapes.
A census in 1914 revealed that Argentina had approximately 105 million ha of forest. Today, studies estimate a remaining 28 to 45 million ha. According to the UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), some 16,288,000 ha of Argentina’s forest cover have been lost between 1980 and 2000.
http://www.world-weather-travellers-guide.com/causes-of-air-pollution.html
The heavily polluted Matanza-Riachuelo River Basin. This river (it’s actually more of an estuary), which meanders for 40 miles through Buenos Aires, has been heavily polluted for years by industrial waste, sewage, and everyday garbage. For the seven million people that live near or along the river that means dirty water, dirty air, and a number of health problems. The pollution in this river is not new for Argentina. For almost 200 years the government has struggled with keeping the river clean.
http://www.world-weather-travellers-guide.com/causes-of-air-pollution.html
So it is not just a problem for developed countries like the UK and Chile.
Saying other people windows may need a clean, doesn't make yours any less dirty! At least some people are attempting a clean up.
Perhaps some posters on here should encourage the Argentine government to follow the excellent Chilean example. Local action helped bt British expertise, not the ''head-in-a-bucket / not-my-fault' approach of the Argentines....
sad really...
@17 ilsen
Aug 30th, 2014 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It will be interesting to see exactly how idiotboy@16 -who I have dubbed mamarracho No.2 - responds to your clear rebuttal of his allegations that Argentina is free of pollution.
Still - he does seem to have a very imaginative style and entertains us with his postings.
@18 gordo1
Aug 30th, 2014 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hmm.. he probably won't. His usual style is to run away to another thread and start some mud-slinging there instead.
Still- he does provide a little amusement sometimes, and I do try to educate him, even engage him, when I can be bothered. Unless he starts ranting. Then he just gets acidicly-rained on like the other trolls....
;-)
Uhmm... its not me saying it. It was the map. Simple as that.
Aug 31st, 2014 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0The British worrying about other nations' forests is like the Germans worrying about other nations' Jews. HAHAHAHAHA
It wasn't you? It was the map? Not your fault then? Quick, run to the UN and complain that I am bullying you. Oh, I am so nasty! Not! Just providing you with the education that your Gov. denies you.
Aug 31st, 2014 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Typical Argentine reaction.
Should I now apologise now that you’re are a victim of the truth?
Everybody in the World should worrrt about the rain-forests of Lat Am. They are they the lunngs of the planet.
The vital links between the Amazon rainforest, global warming and you!
here:
http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/where_we_work/amazon/about_the_amazon/why_amazon_important/
you are again getting a little crazy, probably too busy expanding your vocabulary than learning about the world.
“The British worrying about other nations' forests is like the Germans worrying about other nations' Jews. HAHAHAHAHA”“”
http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/where_we_work/amazon/about_the_amazon/why_amazon_important/
Uhmm... last time I checked:
Aug 31st, 2014 - 03:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0a) There is no Amazon rainforest in Argentina
b) half of the world's oxygen is in fact not even produced in any forest on land:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoplankton
c) a big chunk of forest oxygen is created in the TAIGA, which EUROPEANS have hewn to sawdust (pun intended)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoplankton
d) Protecting Latin American rainforests is code word for “keeping Latin America underdeveloped”.
@22 Mamarracho #2
Aug 31st, 2014 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Protecting Latin American rainforests is code word for “keeping Latin America underdeveloped””. Latin America is underdeveloped because of its total lack of mature political leaders!
Argentina, for example, at the end of the nineteenth century and beginning of the twentieth century was one of the most prosperous countries of the world and yet it now it is a “basket case”. The only explanation for this is lack of political and economic ambitions and populist politics.
Still no comeback on the “Argentina is free of pollution”, just flim flam and whataboutery as usual. ...
Aug 31st, 2014 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24
Aug 31st, 2014 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are free of pollution except for the Riachuelo issue. We have healthy oceans free of garbage (unlike you), we don't have acid rain, and we have 50% of our original forests. Europe has 8%.
Polluted f---cks.!
@25
Aug 31st, 2014 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You said @16
There is none to reduce
yet now you say there is a problem with the river
???
Hahaha!
:-)
Mamarracho # 2
Aug 31st, 2014 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No response to my @23? You clearly are no longer able to sustain your position in the debate, are you?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/insane-photos-shows-sewer-workers-161632806.html
Sep 01st, 2014 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here's the proof of how pristine England is!
Mamaracho # 2
Sep 02nd, 2014 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here's the DEFINITIVE proof of how exquisitely pristine England and the other parts of the UK are! ¡Boludo!
http://travel.aol.co.uk/2012/03/23/where-is-the-best-view-in-britain/
So you admit that you have shit in your rivers, and then tell us we have shit in our sewerage system?
Sep 03rd, 2014 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well isn't that where it is meant to be? Not in the river?
Maybe you don't have a sewerage system? Do you just poo in the street and kick it into the river?
Yuck!
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