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Malvinas: Argentina recalls fifty years since Falklands claim statement before C24
Argentina will be launching on Thursday, 4 September the book “Argentine sovereignty in Malvinas; 50 years since Ambassador Ruda's statement” which recalls the half century since the presentation by then Ambassador Jose Maria Ruda before the United Nations Special Decolonization Committee, or C24. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesBahahahaha - this is all they can do. In 1982 Argentinian invaders were thrown out. They have no rights to the Falkland Islands...loosers. The C24 is no more than a lunch club for freeloaders, shut it down.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 06:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like the Argentine claim has gone backwards then. They invaded illegally in 1982, ignored binding UNSC resolutions to leave and then got kicked out. Anything discussed before that is history. Happy 50th Argentina, see you in another 50!
Sep 04th, 2014 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina sovereignty in the Malvinas. 50 years since ambassador Ruda's statement.”
Sep 04th, 2014 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Obtainable in the UK under the title of, “50 years of failure, What Argentine sovereignty?”
It is a unique and strange culture that would hold a ceremony to celebrate the telling of porkies to the UN, and to remind everybody of the flagrant breach of the very resolutions and agreements which might once have helped them get what they want.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0More fairy stories and myths!
Sep 04th, 2014 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina just cannot stop lying can they?
Sep 04th, 2014 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UN General Assembly has never called the Falklands situation “ a special and particular colonial case ”.
This same Dr Ruda became a Judge at the ICJ and was a member of the Court for the Western Sahara Advisory Opinion. Although Dr Ruda wrote a dissenting opinion he did not make any reference to paragraphs 54- 59 of the Opinion which deal with the right to self-determination.
I feel that his is particularly important as paragraph 54 of the Opinion reads:
' The Charter of the United Nations, in Article 1, paragraph 2, indicates,
as one of the purposes of the United Nations: “To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples . . .” This purpose is further developed in
Articles 55 and 56 of the Charter. Those provisions have direct and particular relevance for non-self-governing territories, which are dealt with in Chapter XI of the Charter. As the Court stated in its Advisory Opinion of 21 June 1971 on The Legal Consequences for States of the Continued Presence of South Africa in Namibia (South West Africa) notwithstanding Security Council Resolution 276 (1 970) :
“. . . the subsequent development of international law in regard to
non-self-governing territories, as enshrined in the Charter of the United
Nations, made the principle of self-determination applicable to all of
them” (I.C.J. Reports 1971, p. 31).'
The full Opinion is available here:
http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/61/6195.pdf
and Dr. Ruda's dissenting Opinion is available here:
http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/61/6195.pdf
“while actor Roberto Carnaghi narrated events of the time”. He'll be used to fictional scripts then.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0This will be volume 1.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 08:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Volume 2 will become available in 2064.
Volume 3 will become available in 2114.
rotting roadkil, shoot or shut up. Are you trying to talk the Brits to death? lol.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Utterly risible.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 09th September, 1964. The C24 paper was “foolscap” even then, but nobody noticed.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ooh! A book! A big scary book full of lies! Ooh!
Sep 04th, 2014 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Will it make the NYT fiction bestseller list?
These books are to be provided for free.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have to supply your own wax crayons.
Another loser's ceremony.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't they ever get tired of these charades?
l suppose we'll see a new stamp or coin to commemorate this rubbish next.
Wholly uncollectable.
Be fair, they have Malvinas Books, Malvinas Coins, Malvinas Governors, Malvinas Museums, Malvinas Flags, Malvinas Marches, Malvinas Streets, Malvinas Football Stadiums, Malvinas Cartoons, Malvinas Veterans, Malvinas Memorial Day, Malvinas ministers etc, etc, etc.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only thing they do not have, is a place called the Malvinas, because it does not exist, it's a fiction, just like this book.
The Truth-
Sep 04th, 2014 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brain washed-brainwashed-brainwashed-brainwashed
idiots-idiots-idiots- fools-fools-fools losers-losers-losers
What Else can one honestly say without lying..
I have come to the conclusion that the argies must believe in string theory otherwise how can the entire population live in an alternate reality to the rest of the world?
Sep 04th, 2014 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0By the look of that smarmy argie git in the photo it seems they have a mould for their foreign ministers complete with automatic lobotomy.
Edwin Star could have had another hit with “Argies, what are they good for”: I am sure you know the rest.
They have short memories too - Ruda's distortions of history were exposed in 2012
Sep 04th, 2014 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://attachment.fbsbx.com/file_download.php?id=291616161029390&eid=ASvRmOM7vbh1Y2GGIvcA1n0bUQV2XphGhD-oQ9qtrfGYOoBfkZOR1eHrgUFHFdn_lBE&inline=1&ext=1409827037&hash=ASv9kTnHO8oGpVns
Amusing article in todays Telegraph. Apparently a couple of years ago the Argentines declared a “squid war” against the Falklands - but the Falklanders don't seem to have noticed.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/11074615/Argentina-loses-squid-war-with-Falklands.html#disqus_thread
Maybe their trawlers got lost trying to follow the orders of their comandant
Sorry - problem with that link - try here if you are interested https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/2012-false-falklands-history-at-the-un-2nd-ed.pdf
Sep 04th, 2014 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”ambassador Ruda made the presentation before the international community supporting Argentina's rights over the Malvinas Islands and called for the application of the 'territorial integrity' principle based on UN Assembly paragraph six of Resolution 1514 (XV),“
Sep 04th, 2014 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then obviously Argentina has no legal claim as international law CANNOT be applied retroactively, to wit:
”...The rule of the intertemporal law still insists that an act must be characterized in accordance with the law in force at the time it was done, or closely on the next occasion. ...
The Acquisition of Territory in International Law By Robert Yewdall Jennings
a Judge of the International Court of Justice from 1982. He also served as the President of the ICJ between 1991 and 1994.
Photograph shows two old blokes having a laugh in 1964. It was a joke then and its a joke now. Only chance Argies have of getting Falklands is by armed force ......so ................no chance .
Sep 04th, 2014 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously the book is free. No one would buy it.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is it a colouring in book for kids?
There are various consideration in this joke.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why does argieland rely on UN resolutions that have no legal force?
Why does it quote regional resolutions about which the UK cares nothing?
Why does it ignore the most salient feature of this “dispute”?
Does argieland have a timescale for reaching the 20th century?
Can argieland distinguish between capable and incapable?
Why does argieland rely on UN resolutions that have no legal force?
Why would anyone quote a NON-BINDING resolution?
Why does it quote regional resolutions about which the UK cares nothing?
How many of these hot-air latino organisations does the UK belong to? None. Bit like your neighbour shouting “I hate you” over the wall.
Why does it ignore the most salient feature of this “dispute”?
Nothing prior to 14 June 1982 is relevant. Argieland invaded, illegally, and occupied, illegally. The UK defeated the latino cowards. Over ELEVEN THOUSAND PRISONERS. The “runners”. The “gutless”. The “losers”.
Does argieland have a timescale for reaching the 20th century?
Another 200 years maybe. But don't hold your breath. Much shorter timescale if we shoot the ignorant bastards.
Can argieland distinguish between capable and incapable?
YES!! British troops can kill argie troops and are, therefore, capable. Argie troops are bum-tremblers. They don't have to be “capable”. Just “open”. Not a problem. They're usually “open”. Argie troops only complain about British bayonets because the “probes” are sharp. They're used to nightly “medical” probes by “officers”.
How many argie “veterans” actually landed on the Falklands? Why don't they get their speed record from Mount Tumbledown recognised?
Is there a valid reason not to take action against argie vermin?
”called for the application of the 'territorial integrity' principle based on UN Assembly paragraph six of Resolution 1514 (XV), which allegedly was ignored by the British usurpation and occupation of that part of the Argentine territory.“
Sep 04th, 2014 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately for Argentina, they think that paragraph 6 is the only one that exists-every other provision in the resolution supports the rights of the Islanders.
Territorial integrity in this instant can only apply if Britain was colonising a people who were originally attached to Argentina, and who wished to return to Argentina.
As there is no definitive evidence to prove that the Falkland Islands were Argentine for many years, territorial integrity has not been broken.
”establishing that the way to resolve it was through negotiations so that both sides can find a peaceful solution to the controversy.“
So while Britain was negotiating with Argentina, Argentina's answer was to use a non-peaceful solution for which they have not got the guts to apologise for.
”The video recalls that during the sixties and until 1974, under the communications' accords, a landing strip was assembled in Stanley; a gas and fuel storage plant from YPF and Gas del Estado were constructed, plus agreements on migration, education, supplies and air services.“
All of which the Falkland Islanders no longer need, and the agreements were voided by the 1982 war-started by Argentina.
” ambassador Ruda made the presentation before the international community supporting Argentina's rights over the Malvinas Islands”
As this was laced with lies, the UK should be campaigning for 2065 to be made void as its application resulted from lies. Argentina are still unaware that the 1982 war voided 2065, as they haven't yet actually read 2065,evidenced by the trash the Malvanistas quote on here, their heads firmly looking up their own arse.
The key issue that malvanistas don't really understand is the Falklands have rights under paragraph 1&2 of res 1514 merely by being on the c24 list, the UN has recognised that they qualify because they are still on the list.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The ICJ are merely confirming the un's stance.
Bit simple really
If only Argentina were to appeal against the c24 listing and then apply to the ICJ......but that's too difficult isn't it?
It's not like it's a paper mill, the beagle channel, the us stance on bond holdouts, or any other slight perceived??? Surely?
The Argentines have been brainwashed since birth to believe the lies, ,myths , fairly tales and misrepresentations of historic events concerning the Falklands/Malvinas archipelago. They have a “Cry Wolf” mentally which needs addressing and can only be countered by the International Court of Justice which will examine all the evidence, true and invented, and come to its decision accordingly.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently the more intelligent argies believe south America rightly belongs to Argentina as a gift from the Spanish.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so they say...lol
Talk about flogging a dead horse, there's hardly a decent troll left to push the case, even on Mercopress
Sep 04th, 2014 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think the Malvinas is that mythical place where a wicked queen rules a land in perpetual darkness and can turn all livings things to stone.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can get there though a wardrobe full of designer labels and chicken fillets in the casa rosada and it has a helicopter on standby for a hasty getaway and fridge full of botox in turkish delight boxes.
There is however a proud royal lion in a distant land that will destroy the dark queen as foretold and bring light again where the was once greed and neo- colonialism.
We can all write books, I am sure C.S Lewis would approve.
http://artofthemystic.deviantart.com/art/Aslan-Sunset-55452024
Ruda, one of the biggest liars that lived, what a load of old crap.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are so so desperate and she knows it.
Sep 04th, 2014 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 031 Malvinas Islands
Sep 05th, 2014 - 02:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even your official British history agrees with Argentina...
The Torygraph
“Official British history of the Falklands War is considered too pro-Argentina”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/7331547/Official-British-history-of-the-Falklands-War-is-considered-too-pro-Argentina.html
He apologised MoreCrap and the 'official' history now acknowledges the truth :-)
Sep 05th, 2014 - 04:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marquitos Alejandrito
Sep 05th, 2014 - 06:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nene, did you read the article to which you refer? It is clear from the content that the author of the “official” history acknowledged the corrections from Messrs Pascoe and Pepper. “Errata” slips were included with the volume.
You should do your homework, pibe!
@31
Sep 05th, 2014 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I bet he got a ruda wakening in 1982.
It will be written on their gravestones,
Sep 05th, 2014 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0eye demanded everything,
And eye lost everything
eye am another mug pushing up daises..
Thank you CFK.
l guess the Argentines believe that the end justifies the means.
Sep 05th, 2014 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0So they have no problem in constant lying in order to get what they want.
Unfortunately amigos, we've come to expect you to handle the truth rather carelessly & so your lying cuts no ice at all.
And you are still not going to get your thieving paws on the Falklands.
But keep it up, your antics are entertaining.☺
“Argentine sovereignty in Malvinas; 50 years since Ambassador Ruda's statement”
Sep 05th, 2014 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0This book highlights 50 years of failure on many levels. The most grievous failure is the lack of humanity shown towards its own people and its smaller neighbours and its failure to observe the norms of civilised society.
This book should be called the “Book of Failure; 50 years of Argentine delusion and failed diplomacy”
I expect this book will come in useful when they run out of toilet paper....
Sep 05th, 2014 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Considering plastic can by recycled,
Sep 05th, 2014 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0just think of what the real argentine people could turn CFK into..lol
Argentina gets a new book, we are keeping our second British built aircraft carrier.......hohoho.
Sep 05th, 2014 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2745248/Royal-Navy-second-aircraft-carrier-HMS-Prince-Wales-Nato-leaders-agree-boost-military-spending.html
Looking forward to the 'militarisation of the South Atlantic 2.0”
Sep 05th, 2014 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina will be hopping up and down, the FI will get more free publicity and global interest.
It's a Winner!
It's meant to deter Putin, but if it deters Argentins, so much the better.
Sep 05th, 2014 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Two carriers, with 5th generation aircraft! If they work? 20x the fire power of the last two they had to deal with. type 45 destroyers, Astute class submarines, Drones, veteran combat troops etc, etc, etc.
I think we can take it for granted that the Falkland Islanders sovereignty is pretty well garaunteed for the foreseeable future.
Keep on printing your propoganda, because that is all it is, uslesss words in a useless book, for a useless ambition.
Just park that aircraft carrier off the FI and watch them squeal. Guaranteed toilet paper shortage then!
Sep 05th, 2014 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can't believe that they expend so much energy on a lost cause, even if it a distraction from their economic woes.
Such foolish behaviour!
Apparently the crafty CFK has an idea to solve the Falkland's question,
Sep 06th, 2014 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0after moving her capital to wherever, she will replace her old capital with a place called Malvinas , and this will be her new victory...lol
@33. So? Only ONE important date. 14 June 1982.
Sep 06th, 2014 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can you figure it out?
@33 Marcos
Sep 06th, 2014 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Official British history of the Falklands War is considered too pro-Argentina”
“Professor Sir Lawrence Freedman, the book's author and also a member of the Chilcot Inquiry panel which is investigating the 2003 Iraq war, said he was ”happy to accept the corrections”.
So how does this help Argentina if the author accepts that the history he published was incorrect and has corrected it?
It cannot be pro Argentine is the author has accepted mistakes were made.
You will notice this is a trait that Argentina does not possess-the ability to accept they have made mistakes and to correct them and go forward.
Therefore because of that great Argentine quality of denial in the face of all evidence, this will ensure that they will be bolassed forever, making mistakes that they deny making.
33 Marcos Alejandro
Sep 06th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0to pro or not to pro---you lost..lol
And they will continue to lose……
Sep 06th, 2014 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am Argentinian who lives in a country which a certain time in history was a British colony and was defeated by a ragtag army ,one the most embarrassing moment in British history as many others, I am just curios why so much animosity towards a country with such short history, I know their politics sucks as their economy but, a seen a lot people talking with no understanding of southamerican culture and inhabitants of those country's
Sep 06th, 2014 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great Britain was allways a colonialist empire and now people talks about self determination....is really ironic....
Poor Argentineans. Their 'territorial integrity' myth was blown away by paragraph 80 of the ICJ Kosovo Advisory Opinion that states, 'the scope for the principle for territorial integrity is limited to the relationship between individual States and does not impinge on the right to self-determination and independence.'
Sep 07th, 2014 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0@51 marchon
Sep 08th, 2014 - 06:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are clearly not aware of the TRUE history of the Falkland Islands. You have been brainwashed since infancy to believe myths, fairy tales and false versions of historic events.
Please see http://www.falklands.gov.fk/assets/Outdated-GettingItRight.pdf
This document will assist you to see reason - if you are a reasonable person.
#51 marchon
Sep 08th, 2014 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, are you saying that trying to usurp a tiny neighbours territory by brutal invasion, and continuing to persecute and harass the inhabitants of that territory by the imposition of trade and communication embargos and other unfriendly acts are part and parcel of ‘southamerican culture’?
Well you are right a lot of people (an awful lot) do not understand this and will not tolerate your countries behaviour. This has nothing to do with your culture; it is about your countries unsavoury behaviour towards the inhabitants of the Falkland Islands, these peopel have done nothing to Argentina, there only wish is to be allowed to live in the security and peace that most people take for granted.
@51 marcbon,
Sep 08th, 2014 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really marc?
You are sadly mistaken.
We care not at all for Argentina.
This is OUR land & NOT Argentinas.
Can you not see that you have been taught lots & lots of lies?
Your governments, past & present, have made up stories to tell you because they want OUR land.
The British claimed these lslands in 1765.
That is 45 years before Argentina claimed its independence from Spain in 1810.
45 years before the political nation of Argentina even existed.
How can Argentines even think that they own the Falklands?
Do not 45 years mean anything to you?
And as for being anti-Argentine, yes we are.
Only because of Argentina's actions & lies.
Stop the stupid “claims” to OUR country, stop the lies at the UN, stop the petty harassment & we'll stop hating Argentina.
lts up to your countrymen, marc
51 marcbon (#)
Sep 08th, 2014 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am Argentinian who lives in a country which a certain time in history was a British colony ,
twit,
Argentina has never been a colony of the British.
@56 Briton,
Sep 08th, 2014 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0A lot of them wish that Argentina had been a British colony.
They probably would be a lot more prosperous than they are at present.
Give it time, if the Chinese don't take over maybe the Falklands will! lol lol!
that would be great to see.
Sep 08th, 2014 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anniversary of: “How to win a powerful enemy for a silly fixation-
Sep 08th, 2014 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0without really trying.”
Philippe
Is there not an international law against stalkers,
Sep 08th, 2014 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and if their is, Argentina should be taken to this court for stalking the Falkland's.
Sorry I did not want upset anybody but found this newspaper by accident I was wondering if the news paper is directly related to the Falkland Islands, in the other Hand I really appreciate the opportunity to have a dialogue, and always I will wonder would happened if Argentina never invaded the islands which I agree with a lot people it was a really stupid mistake and not thinking about the consequences in the future ( I guess it will never change), I was a kid during the conflict and my vision was distorted as anybody else, at the end of the day I think always politics will get in the way and I don't think Argentina will never let go the claims until some kind agreement will be reach, which at this point I think is pure and exclusively about resources and the potential of the south Atlantic don't forget is in the Argentina back yard...
Sep 11th, 2014 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0thanks again and by record I don't live in Argentina any longer , I would like to think this will help me to have a more impartial view on my comments..
@61
Sep 11th, 2014 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paragraphs and proper punctuation will certainly help to clarify your points of view.
@61 marcbon,
Sep 11th, 2014 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0marc,
Argentina may never give up its claims & we will never consent to being ruled by Argentina.
So we have a stalemate.
There also will be no agreement that l can think of.
We are not in Argentina's backyard, we are in the South Atlantic, which is several hundred kilometers from Argentina.
Any resources found here(gold, silver, copper, uranium, iron, coal & oil) belong to the Falklands & are nothing to do with Argentina.
You have enough resources of your own, in your underdeveloped land.
We could have been friends & good neighbours.
Argentina's attitude has ensured that is not going to happen for the foreseeable future.
@51 marcbon
Sep 13th, 2014 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Great Britain was allways a colonialist empire and now people talks about self determination....is really ironic....”
UK is not imposing self-determination on the Falkland Islanders.
It is the Islanders telling the UK they want self-determination i.e that is the opposite of colonialism.
And it is equally ironic that Argentina keeps talking about British colonialism yet wishes to colonise a people of nine generations who don't want to be ruled by Argentine colonialism.
A double irony my friend.
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