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Islamic State's ultimate goal: Saudi Arabia's oil wells
For the terrorist group known as the Islamic State, Syria and Iraq were a good place to start their campaign, but in order to survive and prosper it knew from the outset that it had no choice but to set its sights on the ultimate prize: the oil fields of Saudi Arabia. Read full article
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Sep 11th, 2014 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0The good thing about IS is that even though they have numerous western fighters swelling their ranks they seem to have no understanding of the west. The west probably has much the same level of understanding of IS so you are left with the simple equation - who has the bigger guns.
Terrorists are only really any good at terrorism and their efforts to engage in infantry warfare to capture and hold ground will mean the west will be far less hampered in unleashing firepower.
They won't get anywhere near Saudi Arabia - let alone conquer it.
I am at the point I feel it's time to make the middle east the middle glassbowl.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Saudi Arabia already has some serious military kit and plenty of their officer class has been trained at Sandhurst. Plus they will get plenty of US support too. The British defence industry has been supplying Saudi for years, so I can imagine the UK will be involved in some form. I expect the French may get in there too.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0It will get ugly for IS.
There will be death and destruction for sure, but a solution? Sadly I can see this rumbling on for another five centuries.
The best solution would be another “biblical flood” that engulfs the entrie middle east so that we can just tow some oil rigs over the place.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is being left out of the media is the fact that this is a full scale sectarian war.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0I read a news article that referenced a 75 y.o Kurd explaining what happened.
It wasn't some foreign terrorists that came rolling into townto chase them out, it was all their Sunni neighbors who they had lived beside for years.
Saudia Arabia can take care of itself as long as it can trust it's own army. It has stock piles of fighter jets and modern wepondry.
IS' advance was turned back by a ragtag bunch of kurdish fighters and a little bit of air power.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Saudi armed forces have the training and first-world equipment to obliterate them.
I am with Captain Poppy on this: kill all Muslims in the middle east, you cannot rely on them not turning against the west.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0IS supporters
Sep 11th, 2014 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Normally Argies dead beats would be all over this accusing us of all sorts of thing,
Yet amazingly its silent
Perhaps they have something to hide.
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On a lighter note it seem that the British government is considering opening 3 bases in the Middle East,
On top of what we already have access to but no details of who or what.
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Bahrain is one candidate for a British base. The UK already has military personnel there.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On another note I expect the Argentine posters are probably still in bed, or waiting for their dial-up internet connection. ....
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ha ha.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think America is making another mistake by attacking ISIS again. Because its like plowing in the water, they should just get out as fast as they can. I would leave it to both the Iranians, Syrians to deal with. And if Assad falls all to bad, its his fault in the first place. Everyone seems to forget that in 2011 the people of Homs peacefully were demanding freedom of speech and changes. I few reforms would have done fine. Instead he decided to send the army to deal with them, so he ended up with a war on his streets and within a year hundreds of terror groups had infiltrated the Syrian revolution.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The house of Saud is getting bigger and bigger and the Kingdom will be facing decreased stability from within due to dynastic power struggles, new revolutions and terror groups forming in the Peninsula. It doesn't make sense to fight ISIS in the Levant and al-Sham and within a few decades from now you will have another explosion in the Middle East. And then you will have of course the Iranians trying to influence the shiites of the region.
Saudi Arabia is up for grabs anyway.
Israel certainly won't put up with this crap on their doorstep neither. I can see the march to WW3, only this time the Nazis are the Islamists (note that Germans are very cool people in this day and age and should not be mistaken/judged for their forebears actions). The intelligent good people of the world will only take so much before they make the move to destroy this poisonous ideology.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Strangely though there are only a very small number of Muslim communities protesting against Islamic extremism, and the religion (non holy script) openly states they should lie to Kafir (yes that age old trick of demonising people and making them appear sub human to the weak minded).
The saddest, most heart breaking thing in all this are the children. Little precious defenceless kids exposed to the most brutal of inhuman characteristics of pretty thick (underachieving) dogs. Kids are often brutally murdered, including babies by these scums bags.
To me personally that is the most awful thing of conflict. That and how desensitised adults become to violence, barbarity, death and have no empathy for their fellow man. A person with no empathy is no longer human but a crazy dull eyed (through the death of the soul) demon in flesh.
Such a horrible place this world is in so, so, so many ways. Thankfully though there are still a great number of us honourable, kind, loving, determined believers in justice and good will to mankind.
As always of late it is the US leading the way, we Brits (Welshmen,Ulstermen,Englishmen, and hopefully Scotsmen) will stand with you, as so will the Anglosphere and a number of brave allies amongst the world
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Sep 11th, 2014 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13
Sep 11th, 2014 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love that advert! Funny, sexy, smart, glamorous and just a tiny bit self-deprecating.
Wonderfully, deliciously British!
Simply mahvallous, dahlings!
Does ickle Trolley-boy want a Jaguar?
:)
ChrisR is correct when he says that they cannot be trusted. Anyone who was in the ME knows that culturally, lying is an accepted norm with these people. Be it business, military or whatever. To them it, it is better to lie than to tell someone something they do not want to hear. The Middle East has been in a state of war for 5000 years and it is not going to change.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As with the extremists, it is difficult to fight people who want to die for a cause believing they will enter paradise with virgins. There are times one cannot fight a fire with water and must resort to fighting fire with fire. As barbaric as it sounds, we need to do unto them as they do to us and share their barbaric measures. They need to be quartered, decapitated and defiled, burned. They need to know they are not going to heaven when they die.
15. Or you can just leave them to kill each other??
Sep 11th, 2014 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14
Sep 11th, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jaguars are an improved Indian car these days, from what I read. I don't have the money for one, but I can read magazines.
So you think it's nice that British are potrayed as WICKED AND DEVIOUS???
THat's what I have been saying for years here ! The British are Wicked and Devious, that's it. So you agreed with me even though you have claimed I'm a hater for stating the facts.
Thank you for the very belated acquiescence.
Be very afraid if the Saudi military revolts and overthrows the ruling government. Democracy does not work as a general rule in the Middle East. You may try and use Tunisia, Morocco, Kuwait and Turkey as examples, but even they are unstable. Bahrain was almost lost to chaos as the west nearly stopped supporting the monarchy there for its suppression of democracy.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's sad, but a reality, that for a stable and relatively peaceful Middle East, you need leaders that are well in control of their highly diverse and disharmonious populations.
17. She is a modern, independent women. Lo and Behold. Its not about the Jaguar, its about having the money to buy one. How can you know more than a London femenist?? You are a loser in the basement of your parents.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iyeUcFKRv4
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Sep 11th, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is Europe's fault. None of those countries are real countries, except for Morocco and what a shock, it is the only one that has been stable for all this time.
ALL the other countries, from Iraq, to Syria, to Libya, are invented.
Tunisia (greater Carthage), Egypt, Turkey, Iran (Persia) are fairly established government structures ageing centuries and millenniums old.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Tunisia is along with Morocco one of the most stable.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Iran and Egypt.... notice how the extremists have a much harder time taking over those countries? Because those countries have people with a sense of nation and history.
None of that exists in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and thus they are easily overrun by amateur bands of criminals (which is what those groups are, just criminals that are running around hiding behind some supposed greater ideology).
#16 I would agree if they only would. However they've been warring from tribe to tribe for 5000 years , long before Mohammad. It's the tribal mentality that makes that area so fractious.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#20 titti tobi, based on your vast experience, what area in the middle east made you feel the safest? You know you have a lot in common with the extremists?
Most of SA is made up also as the Inca's, Guarani's et al, had different governments and cities and names. Are you giving it back to them or just stroking your stick for GP's?
@17
Sep 11th, 2014 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You do realise that the clip you posted is a car ADVERT that makes fun of Hollywood's portrayal of the British? Funny and self-deprecating.
It's not real! It's not proof of your twisted prejudices!
What a strange world you live in.
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Anyway, does not matter. The facts are that thousands of fundamentalist jihadi nutjobs are about to be fried in the desert.
My only concerns are
a) what will the aftermath involve?
b) how much will all cost this time?
fried in the desert
Sep 11th, 2014 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0will that include ketchup..
More like hummus sauce
Sep 11th, 2014 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0kind of ironic that the last thing this lot will smell is something very akin to burnt pork....
Sep 11th, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BBQ
Sep 11th, 2014 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can't wait to see ISIS blown the fuck out of orbit. Savage scum.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But why are they recruiting so many foreigners into their military ranks??
Sep 11th, 2014 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what is so attractive?? this is the dangerous part.If it continuous to attract foreigners like it is doing now and they grow into the thousands.They may very well take over Saudi Arabia and sorrounding countries.
The fact that ISIS has its sights on Saudi Arabia's oil fields - and all the rest - is no surprise, and should make the House of Saud wake up.....it's about time too, that they , the Saudis contributed to their own safety.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Firmly believe that ISIS and all other radical Muslim outfits should be treated as a disease....erradicate them, go the whole hog and send them on a one-way trip to see their 72 virgins... Bomb the hell out of them !!! then cremate them with a pork sausage up their butts.
This so-called caliphate is probably about 90% 'foreigners'. I don't think that many of them are locals. They come from Africa as well as Europe and Middle East.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am very happy for all the disaffected, fundamentalist jihadi nutjobs to gather in one place far away from the West. Much easier on the logistics.
The sun, wind and sand combo soon cleans down to the bone.
Nice and tidy. No boots on the ground. Death from above by drone or fast jet. Desert takes care of the rest.
Lovely and clean. An excellent garbage disposal methodology. I couldn't have organised it better myself.
(Well, apart from hanging around mosques offering cheap flights direct to Syria and popping all the radicals on a bus and driving them to the airport, relieving them of their passports after boarding and tipping the pilot a crispy fifty pound note!)
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@30. FakeAussie. You sound frightened of these people, or you're just trying to scare others. Either way, you should man up, or jog on.
32.
Sep 11th, 2014 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems you have it all figured out... Yet what happened to Jihadi John or your former neighbour L Jinny, the people you walk amongst that killed the US journalists there was an SAS team after them??
Kerry has got the Saudis and 5 other countries in the region to sign an agreement for a coalition whose principle aim is the total destruction of Islamic State (IS). The bombing will be starting in earnest pretty soon.
Sep 12th, 2014 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0It will be on the news where ever you are in the world.
Not long now.
@33 CD2 you seem to be taking the same line as FakeAussie, trying to create a climate of fear. Exactly what the terrorists want. You are becoming their tool.
Doesn't work on us Brits. Maybe you would have better luck with someone more impressionable. Just open your front door. I'm sure you'll find plenty of them wandering about.
Kerry recently said that “the greatest threat to Muslims is climate change... ” I kid you not...
Sep 12th, 2014 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0I really like America, I even studied there as a young man, but the Obama regime is disappointing...
ref: @34
Sep 12th, 2014 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, that should read ”Kerry has got the Saudis and TEN other countries in the region to sign an agreement for a coalition whose principle aim is the total destruction of Islamic State (IS).
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The CIA is now estimating 20-30,000 IS fighters on the ground, (I believe that is what is referred to as a 'target-rich environment, ;-))
34.I think al-Baghdadi must have some an ace under his sleeves.
Sep 12th, 2014 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why was he so sure in provoking the americans while decapitating those civilians?
The rest of the middle East...the Arabs, Turks and Persians need to wake up and get their shit together because they are killing more of their own people the us so called “infidels”. As in 90/91, they are starting to realize that they have to eliminate them and work with westerners.
Sep 12th, 2014 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0And, Syria cannot be a refuge to hide when the bombing starts or they will just live to fight another day.
@11. Hqave to disagree with you. Did you not see the map of the IS aims? It reaches all the way across North Africa and then up to Southern France. Whilst Saudi Arabia is a nice little tidbit, we should expect that IS plans will be to reach Africa and then split. Part heading on west and part turning south. Every country with a muslim population will be a potential recruiting ground. I'm afraid IS has to be stopped where it is. It not only has to be stopped, it has to be annihilated. I am reminded of the Mahdist Revolt 1881-1899. It must also be remembered that air strikes and bombing have NEVER won a war. Not even the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. There are no credible alternatives. A list of countries that cannot be trusted include China, Iran, Russia and Syria. There MUST be a full-scale ground assault. Every tank, every piece of artillery, every IFV, every combat helicopter, every fast jet. And we can forget the 'surgical strike'. It has to be overwhelming force and constant consolidation. Move forward 5 miles and then reduce the territory gained. Leave nothing that may be of danger. And there is one thing that will always be a danger. Islam. A cult that demands loyalty to itself that overrides everything else. Anybody recall that Nazism demanded loyalty to itself? In the West Christianity, despite the occasional attempt, never really tried that. Watch your tv and see how muslims, in bulk, respond. The shaking fists, the mad eyes, the uncontrollable rage. And who, basically, subscribes to the principle of 'Gimme'? Where does one see the greatest incidence of violent riots? Look back and you can see that Mohammed believed in violence, war, conquest, occupation, brutality. Go out, attack, kill, die in the process and you are promised 72 virgins. Is there a 'religion' that incites such a thing and makes that sort of promise? It's sick.
Sep 12th, 2014 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 039.
Sep 12th, 2014 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It doesnt matter what countries the Caliphate is supposed to engulf. The borders of the Islamic State have being more or less stabilized some km North East of Baghdad all along the Kurdish border and then into Eastern Syria in Raqqa.
They don't even have a geographic barrier to defend from or a place to hide except from their own sunni stronghold cities in Irak and Syria.
The FSA has already expelled them from Aleppo.
America will end up being a useful tool of the Muslim powers (Turkey and Iran) proxy war in Syria.
All this talk of invading Saudi Arabia is simple Bullshit from a strategic point of view. You just need to look at a map to know why. There is a desert in between and on one side flanked by Israel and on the other by Basra and in the scope of Iran. You need heaps of armoured vehicles and tanks to invade. ISIS doesnt have tank battalions and air force to cover them. They will get slaughtered by the Royal Saudi Air force by their thousands if they attempt to cross Jordan. The greatest risk is that the Kingdom collapses from within. But you wll have another branch of Islamic terror emerging from the Peninsula, sure, but not ISIS. The KSA will end up collapsing so there is not much point in wasting political, human and military resources in defending it.
Wow, with all this talk of war and bombing I bet Conquerer has rubbed himself raw and blistered his hands!
Sep 12th, 2014 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am not sure how he can manage to type such a long email on handed.
Maybe he should lead the bayonet charge, it has been a while since he crossed the beach at Normandy, but I am sure he is up to it!
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