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Leading Scottish business group calls for unity the day after the referendum
A leading Scottish business group has called for the country to unite “to drive Scotland forward”, whatever the result of the independence referendum. The Scottish Chambers of Commerce said the outcome would leave “a substantial number” of people disappointed. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMr. Cameron in Aberdeen hours ago “If you don't like me, I won't be here forever”
Sep 16th, 2014 - 03:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Scotland answer: thanks Dave and goodbye.
Marcos,
Sep 16th, 2014 - 03:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0your wit is ...remarkable.
yawn
Seriously, at this point I would vote “no”.
Sep 16th, 2014 - 04:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0London has promised so much devolution that they are in effect creating a mini-Euro zone, where you have one currency, but three different people that write the budget (England, Scotland, and Wales). That won't work long term, so as an Argentine who obviously has in the United Kingdom an enemy, this scenario would weaken the UK long term.
For Scotland it is a short and medium term win (basically almost all of the advantages of a free country, with few of the disadvantages), and they can still go it alone long term.
London is kowtowing way too much and it will hurt them long term. But it is a sweet deal for the scots. As much as the courageous choice is “yes” the pragmatic one may no longer be it after the latest round of promises.
Whatever the outcome, well done Scotland for making Cameron cry.
Sep 16th, 2014 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you fuck off back to Argentina, you obviously don't like it here.
Sep 16th, 2014 - 06:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0What's the matter? You have nothing to be afraid of, it was your old man who applied for asylum here! You won't be arrested!
Marcos- What do you know about Scotland in reality then? Nothing do you - so why not shut up stop making a fool of yourself and restrict yourself to issues between your country and its neighbours - of which the islands are one.
Sep 16th, 2014 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0For your interest in the last 6 years a Scot has been in 10 Downing St and another has been Chancellor of the Exchequer in London for the same amount of time as an Englishman has. For the last 16yrs the major elected political party in Scotland has been the UK Governing power for 13 of them.
Some rule from Englamd! - you idiot.
None of the small shop owners will divulge their leanings either way at the moment, for fear of boycotting and intimidation....
Sep 16th, 2014 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0It starts buzzing through Facebook if they do....it's a sad state of affairs....families divided and children being pressured from family and friends/bullies at schools....
I never imagined it would come to this....
@7 Voice,
Sep 16th, 2014 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thats normal for human tribalism.
At school in Australia, initially l was picked on because of my accent.
l soon learned to fight back.
People are the same all over the planet.
*5 temper!! temper!! remember there is such a thing called FREE SPEECH!!
Sep 16th, 2014 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....I found this amusing.....
Sep 16th, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...today in a remote West Highland village I looked at one of the street lampposts...
...part way up it was a YES sign..above that was a NO Thanks....
...and below them both there was a squiggly script.....
I asked a local WTF is that... he said he thinks it's Urdu for Yes.....
....WTF!!!...and WTF!!!
Don't worry Voiey King Alex will get rid of all the non-pure Scots soon after his election.
Sep 16th, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He will need liebraum for all you who can trace their heritage to Robert the Bruce (I can, can you?)
Where's the bravado gone Voicey....not long now to Freeeeeeedom.
Well at least until half your population flee south in a migration of Biblical proportion.
Have fun with your new Scottish poooounds....we will.
Lest we forget....
I didn't realise Robert De Brus was a Canadian....
Sep 16th, 2014 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did realise his family came from Skelton Castle in North Yorkshire and before that Normandy.....did you.....
...in fact there is fcuk all I don't know about the De Brus family.....how father and son fought each other at the Battle of the Standard nr Northallerton...the father for King Stephen the son for King David....where his family are buried at Guisborough priory...
So save your wannabe aspirations....for someone that gives a fcuk.....and p!ss off Troll Tempest......
It's Not Fear That's Clouding the Scotland Debate: It's Amnesia
Sep 16th, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://nationalinterest.org/blog
Just scroll down to 2nd story, you might find it interesting,
if you love great Britain.mmm.
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MonkeyM, Briton, Isolde,
Sep 16th, 2014 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ironically, only “voice” is obsessed with identity, who is pure, who has “history”, who “qualifies”...
All the while, he will only say that he is a non-scot who lives in a fictitious village by the sea, his paranoia “tilting” at every fishing dorry or flotsam, going by.
Like bagpipes in the fens - sad and alone.
For what it's worth, scotchland is standing on the very brink. From its very inception, mythically 843, it has always tried. In the late 13th century, England its proper role by 'selecting' the King of Scotland, John Balliol. From 1295 to 1560, scotchland tried the Auld Alliance. However, even an alliance of scotchland and France couldn't defeat England. Scotchland became so successful that, as late as the 1690s, it was still experiencing famine that reduced the population of parts of the country by 20%. In 1698, the scotch tried an ambitious project aimed at matching the English (trade) Empire. It failed. As usual. And so scotchland joined with England. It slowly came to understand, during the 18th century, that England was essential to prosperity. Weaseling their way into positions of power in politics, civil service, the army and navy, trade, economics, colonial enterprises and other areas across the nascent British Empire, the scotch finally became useful. The 19th and 20th centuries see the scotch come to believe in themselves, even though scotch industrial capability is largely organised by England. The early 21st century again sees scotchland aiming for 'independence' despite the warnings that gas and oil revenues will not be what it expects, that there will be a 'capital flight' and that many businesses will leave scotchland for England. The 'leader' of the independence movement denies every fact that does not suit his purpose. In the years following 'independence' the scotch slowly came to see all the warnings come to pass. Expenditure on welfare increased as more and more of the scotch came to believe they has an inexhaustible 'piggy bank' in the North Sea. One of the mainstays of scotch industry, shipbuilding, came to an end. Defence and electronics industries move south of the border to join shipbuilding. Scotch people find they cannot get jobs in England, being foreigners.
Sep 16th, 2014 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love Voicey...he's such a dumb moron.
Sep 16th, 2014 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Month ago he was boasting how Scottish Independence would damage England and pay them back for some highland Clearences or Culloden or some such.
But the result of him and his ilk....Scotland ripped apart at the seems, families threatened, lies, kids bullied, and the country broken....and it's just the start.
And all the stupid moron can come up with is that Troy and I are the same poster....stupid prick even gets that wrong.
Poor Stupid Voicey.....
MM
Sep 16th, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With him, it's a classic case of “cut off your nose to spite your face” - probably the sort of thing that's dogged him all his life.
His curmudgeonly ways might be worth a little amusement if he possessed any degree of wit or humility - alas...
A lost cause, I expect he's been angry all his life, at the English, women, and those who are “undeservedly” better off than him.
I just had a great weekend holiday in Canada - boating, swimming, golfing, BBQing thick juicy steaks - smoke salmon for breakfast...
...far better than Voicey sitting in his own pee, looking at his computer through the bottom of a Scotch bottle.
LOL !!!!
“Oh ye wha sae guid yourself, sae pious and sae holy,
Sep 16th, 2014 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ye've naught to do but mark and tell,
Your neebour's faults and folly”
CaMoron:
Sep 16th, 2014 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Everytime I open my mouth, another Scot votes yes”
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10671479_712155202195823_8622819966916654852_n.jpg?oh=b68756c13e8327f333ca24ccba432bb2&oe=548FDDCB&__gda__=1419270167_015d67369e8302ae58f8c35de39e87ec
Fun to watch you talk to yourself.....you don't even think to change how you refer to me in both personas....Voicey....
Sep 16th, 2014 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Troll Tempest aka Monkeymagic....desperate to be British...
No one cares what you do....just like no one cares where you live....Canada..at the forefront of....well nothing really.....Maple Syrup...??
Bagpipes in the Fens..??...Lincolnshire....?
Yes, I know it's England.
Sep 17th, 2014 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think I said Scotland, did I ??
I was thinking of an isolated place, no same person would go.
You would be all alone there, wailing...
much like here.
Do you see the analogy?
Let me spell it out for you again:
You make a lot of unpleasant bellyaching noises. Not many people hear you. Fewer listen to you.
I know a couple of people, well I should say one, that misses Riverview Hospital in BC.
Sep 17th, 2014 - 03:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0ts odd that Voicey cant tell the difference between a Canadian Tro Tempest and an Englishman, me.
Sep 17th, 2014 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps he is so utterly retarded that the Scotch has addled his brain...or maybe he doesnt meet many “foreigners” in his pure-blood Utopia.
For info Voicey, I've only ever been to Canada once, for a single day in 2000, Windsor Ontario, south of Detroit over the Bridge...
Never mind...after tomorrow, England will still exist as will Canada, but no matter what they vote, Scotland will be divided, bitter and broken for at leat a generation, probably longer.
Families against families, businesses against businesses, kids against kids...what have you and your ilk done Voicey...
youve fucked it up......VOTE YES...I dare you...cretin
Yes voters,
Sep 17th, 2014 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please read, if you care.
My country has been
broken by the hubris
of Alex Salmond
Kenneth Roy
I'll give one example which I know to be true. I have no doubt there are many others.
In a small town in central Scotland –a couple put a No sticker in the window of their house. A neighbour – a woman they 'knew' – came over and said: 'Oh, I didn't realise you were moving home'.
'We're not,' said the man, surprised. 'Well, you will be after we win,' she told him. 'You won't be welcome in this street.'
I hold the first minister personally responsible for such intolerance. Had he chosen to utter a few statesmanlike words months ago, the nastiness of the present mood could and probably would have been avoided. He chose not to utter them.
I won't be staying up. By 7am on Friday, we should know whether it's raining money or raining cats and dogs. Who cares? The country I've lived in all my life has been broken by the hubris of Alex Salmond.
Kenneth Roy is editor of the Scottish Review
http://www.scottishreview.net/
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EWAN MORRISON – YES: WHY I JOINED YES AND WHY I CHANGED TO NO
http://www.scottishreview.net/
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The monkey doth protest too much methinks....
Sep 17th, 2014 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I won't be influenced by Canadians...nor rUK...nor the SNP....
I will decide what I think is best for Scotland.....and vote based on that.....
...the only cretin on here is the one that pretends he's English....
A descendent of Robert the Bruce...hahaha.....what a joke...
I have it on good authority that I'm a direct descendent of Adam and Eve....
...trump that....Troytown puppet....
MM
Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ironically, if Voicey gets his way with the NO vote, he will no longer be able to call himself “British” - he'll be something less.
:-D
*24 well that intolerance is called nationalism!!!! very dangerous and very destructive...
Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 026
Sep 17th, 2014 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oooo...scary..another psychic or mind reader...how the fcuk would you know what my vote will be...
...also how would you know that I'm not already British...I could be English...I have never said...in which case I would be both British and Scottish in the event of a Yes vote....
Keep guessing....you will never know.....
Not likely though, with your obvious hatred of the UK, and the English in particular.
Sep 17th, 2014 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whoever said I hate the English or the UK.....
Sep 17th, 2014 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0..not me that's for sure..
just going by the last year of malignant crap postings from you...
Sep 17th, 2014 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Salmon will be caught fried and eatened,
Sep 17th, 2014 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0chips anyone...lol
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Sep 17th, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You've not said you are anything.
You refuse to say you are anything.
You've said you are NOT Scottish
You've said you are NOT SNP
The only thing you have said in the affirmative, is that you are here to piss people off.
So,
As we have asked before,
How are your 'opinions' formed?
We have no idea of your nationality,
political or group affiliations,
whether you are paid or not,
only that you lie when it suits you, and
you are here, just to piss people off.
Therefore, you could just as easily be Argentinian as anything.
Your opinions are worthless.
...are you doing your...
Sep 17th, 2014 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0make
yourself
look bigger
cat trick again...?
as I said, your statements have no import or relevance.
Sep 17th, 2014 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...quick shufty to see which one of us has actually commented on the article...
Sep 17th, 2014 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lo and behold....it is me....
and not you....
.
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look I'm bigger....
and what value was your “comment”? Zilch.
Sep 17th, 2014 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and...
who cares what you say, anyway ?
:-)
This puppet lover should change his name to “Mr Floatie”, I know you like him :-))
Sep 18th, 2014 - 03:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Floatie/9929101/story.html
Twit twat twot
Sep 18th, 2014 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@36 Voice,
Sep 21st, 2014 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shufti= scout around.
one of Grand-dad's favourite words.
Arabic, l think, but now a HMForces saying.
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