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Eight US congress members table resolution in support of Gibraltar's right to self-determination
Eight US congress members have tabled a resolution calling for the House of Representatives to formally recognize Gibraltar’s right to self-determination.<br />
The bi-partisan move highlights the wishes of the Gibraltarians and underscores the deep historical links between the Rock and the US, highlighting its strategic position for US military interests. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThis is a joke, right?
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pretty much puts to ridicule all your bogus assertions, Hepatia/US Air Farce/British Bomber.
Stupid Troll !!
@1. Four UN ICJ Advisory Opinions, one UN ICJ judgment, 2 UN Covenants all state or confirm that 'the right to self-determination is applicable to ALL non-self-governing territories. The 1995 East Timor judgment stated that the right to self-determination has an erga omnes character, this means that it is to be respected by ALL states. The vote taken in the UN General Assembly on 17 October 2008 that rejected a motion sponsored by Argentina and Spain to have restrictions placed on the right to self-determination where there was a sovereignty dispute confirmed that the fight was an inalienable human right. The 2010 Kosovo ICJ judgment confirmed (para 80) that 'the scope for territorial integrity was limited to the relationship between individual states and did not impinge on the right to self-determination.' To 'implicate' that Gibraltarians or Falkland Islanders do not have the right to self-determination is pure fantasy.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where did Hepatia's secure transmission posts go?
Sep 24th, 2014 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh well Hepatia. I guess Spain will get sovereignty in 25 years.
the indoctrinated argentines will jump on this post like swimming through drying concrete..
Sep 24th, 2014 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Eight US congress members table resolution in support of Gibraltar's right to self-determination”
Sep 24th, 2014 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so eight congress members, eh?
well done.
8 out of 450 is not a bad number. LOL
Its a start,
Sep 24th, 2014 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0unlike the claim of Spain,
Deep Spanish hypocrisy
Golden rule: When your government is deeply unpopular, do something populist. If there is a rock, or group of islands off the mainland that is “owned” by someone else, demand it back and you get votes.
But whatever you do keep schtum about your own Moroccan rocks like Ceuta and Melilla, or a region you stole from indigenous peoples like Patagonia.
Because to mention those old lands you stole would expose deep hypocrisy
This is ONE BIG JOKE. We are talking about Mr George Holding..ladies and gentlemen. This so called Mr Holding disgraced the house floor last year . You see ladies and gentlemen..Mr Holding was overseeing the house floor WHEN HE FELL ASLEEP!! YES!! FELL ASLEEP!! Overseeing means he should have been controling the debate and to be in charge...but the old fella..well..he fell asleep.LOL. This is the type of people Mr Picardo has been mouthing with..
Sep 24th, 2014 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is well known that resolutions are brought forward when a congreessman sees fit to bring it forward.The way it works is that you GIVE SOMETHING TO THE CONGRESSMAN for him or her to take it to the commitee.now..that SOMETHING we can all imagine what it could be..Mr Picardo goes across gives him the SOMETHING and George Holding and company draw up the resolution which WILL NEVER MAKE IT PASS THE COMMITEE OR BE DEBATED IN THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES..BUT MR PICARDO WILL BE JUMPING UP AND DOWN YELLING `GOODY GOODY !! MY GIBRALTAR HAS BEEN MENTIONED´while George Holding and company walk away richer than they were a week ago.................................
www.nbcnews.com/videonbc-news/53181046#56097993
8 A.S.S.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gibraltar has more recognition than it did a week ago, in a very important US Gov. body.
You don't like that much, do you??
:-d
Oh let´s look at the second Congressman who signed the resolution:
Sep 24th, 2014 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congressman Alan Grayson..yes folks, Mr Alan Grayson who..now get this!!
WAS VOTED- AMERICA´S WORST POLITICIAN-by the conservative NEWSWEEK columnist George will. LOL
Picardo how much did you pay this dude?? LOL lol
@1. No. You're the joke. Or is it 'british bummer'? Or some other 'name' you 'think' might help. Ever tried overcoming stupidity? Here's the deal. Argieland starts, Britain finishes. Next time you might lose 6,000 instead of 600!
Sep 24th, 2014 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8, 10. But the Chief Minister isn't 'jumping up and down'. He's a lawyer. Perhaps if you understood politics and the world.
BRILLIANT!
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Dark Country WISHES it had backing like this: they only rate being bollocked by US Judges and told to pay up or else.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, (you get the gist).
Wow how upset is our Spanish poster getting over this.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be told continuously that no one supports the British position and then find people do.
I know. Time for character assassination.
Gibraltar has been slowly increasing its international profile especially over the past several years. They don't need anything to happen now but slowly over the next decade or two the momentum and profile will become unassailable by Spain.
Then Spain can look back and asked where they went wrong just like Argentina does now.
Gibraltar has a plan while Spain just reacts.
13 anglotine
Sep 24th, 2014 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0gibraltar doesn't even have a plan to clean the poop of those stinky llani...i mean monkeys
@ 14 Polly
Sep 24th, 2014 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would imagine they clean it up on a regular basis, crate it and send to you lot to flavour the polluted water you have for drinking.
Such nice, helpful people in Gib.
let´s see!! where was I? I spoke about our first Congressman..GEORGIE HOLDING AND ALAN GRAYSON ..and now folks here comes the third congressman who signed the resolution!!! MR PETE KING....THIS CHAP
Sep 24th, 2014 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0GOES WAY UP IN THE LIST!! MAN!! WAIT FOR IT!!......
CONGRESSMAN PETE KING supporter of the IRA..YES FOLKS!! YOU READ IT CORRECTLY!! (even I was a little shoked) He traveled to Northern Ireland to meet with senior members of the Provisional Irish republican army, many of whom CONGRESSMAN KING CONSIDERS FRIENDS!! YES!! FRIENDS!!
OH THERE IS MORE!! he compares Gerry Adams to George washington!! LOL
he also asserts that THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT IS A MURDER MACHINE KILLING THOSE BOYS IN NI!! AND HE ALSO CALLS THE IRA THE LEGITIMATE VOICE OF OCCUPIED IRELAND!!!! WOW WOW WOW!!!!
and I ask myself did Picardo shake this man´s hand??!! ummmmmmmmmmmm
@13 Anglotino
Sep 24th, 2014 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whether this leads to any immediate action from the U.S. or not, it's good to see acknowledgement of Gibraltar as an entity in itself, and entitled to Self-Determination.
Gibraltar and the rights of the people there, are now in the public consciousness of the U.S.
US News agencies can now report on “homegrown” opinions of the legal status of Gibraltar, from their own politicians.
There is likely to be more cooperation from the U.S. as an ally, as they need their most trusted friends, UK, Canada, Australia, etc., to rally alongside them.
Perhaps Gibraltar will be used as a reliable military staging centre?
Spain's concerns by comparison, look a bit inconsequential at the moment.
14 niño
Living up to your name, I see.
That was pretty childish.
How old are you?
AND FOLKS WE COME TO OUR NEXT CONGRESSMAN WHO SIGNED THE RESOLUTION..MR THOMAS PETRI!!!!BOY THIS ONE IS REALLY INTO MONEY!!!..so let´s investicate Mr Petri...in 2011, Thomas sponsored an ammendment to allow a Michican based badget ferry to DUMP MORE THAN 500 TONS OF COAL ASH INTO LAKE MICHICAN!! and why may you ask yourself did he do this!! WELL YOU SEE FOLKS...THOMAS HAD RECEIVED 14.000 DOLLARS IN CAMPAIGN MONEY..YES!! ONLY 14.000 DOLLARS!! from the badget ferry company AND HE HAD TO RETURN THE FAVOUR...
Sep 25th, 2014 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0I WONDER HOW MUCH HE RECEIVED FROM PICARDO??
AND NOT ONLY THAT !!! BUT NOW POOR THOMAS IS BEING INVESTIGATED BY THE ETHICS PANEL on stock transactions.He is accused of having a conflict of interest after he pushed congress TO AWARD A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR DEFENCE CONTRACT AND BUYING STOCKS IN THE COMPANY WHEN THE CONTRACT WAS AWARDED......MY!! MY!! MY!! MR THOMAS!!
I WONDER HOW MUCH MONEY THIS DUDE HAS INVESTED IN GIBRALTAR!!! LOL
toy, the important thing here is how old you are.
Sep 25th, 2014 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0you are 70 something, and you still waste your time posting bullshit here.
don't you have grandkids or someone to put you in a geriatric?
:)
and so we come to our next CONGRESSWOMAN!! YES CONGRESSWOMAN!!
Sep 25th, 2014 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0to tell you the truth I kind of was taken by her she IS NO RUTHELESS LIKE THE ABOVE CONGRESSMAN the woman is widowed with a few kids and she is known in congress as THE VOICE FOR THE VOICELESS. so I kind of respect that..BUT SHE HAS AN OBSSESION!! SHE LOVES HATS. YES!! THE WOMAN LOVES HATS!! and she has a collection of over 300 HATS!! YOU HEARD ME RIGHT!! 300!!and she has asked the HOUSE SPEAKER TO WAIVE THE RULE OF PROHIBITING THE WEARING OF HATS ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES...GOD BLESS HER!!! WHAT A SILLY LAW!! ISN´T IT?? lINCOLN WORE HIS TOP HAT WHY CAN´T FREDERICA??!! ummmm
I am just kind of wondering ifSHE GAVE PICARDO A FEW TO WEAR AROUND GIBRALTAR.LOL
en.wikipedia.org/wik/Frederica_Wilson
#14 pc “gibraltar doesn't even have a plan to clean the poop of those stinky llani...i mean monkeys”
Sep 25th, 2014 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great to hear that the monkeys are thriving!
@14 paul
Sep 25th, 2014 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great comeback.
I mean, awesome.
Just...... wow! Left school early I see.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wik/frederica_Wilson
Sep 25th, 2014 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anglotino
Sep 25th, 2014 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds good.
Looking forward to it.
I'll post an secure disposable email address in a bit, so we can make contact.
You'll enjoy those cities.
Portland is well worth a visit - interesting transit and downtown revitalisation.
More later
Spain will never get Gibraltar as long as they wish to remain British,
Sep 25th, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and democracy is alive and well,
besides that argies , carry of Defending Spain for you argies are two Pease in the pod,
and its green and sinking..lol
@23 Spanish Sunshine
Sep 25th, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can rant on all you want but you can't dismiss the fact that it is solely up to the people of Gibraltar to determine how and by whom they are governed.
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/09/24/eight-us-congress-members-table-resolution-in-support-of-gibraltar-s-right-to-self-determination#comment353706: It is a fact that, for a politician, to earn George Will's disapproval is a goal worth achieving.
Sep 26th, 2014 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0When I read this story I did not bother to check the bill. So I'm surprised to learn of Grayson's involvement. Grayson is one of the better members of the FL delegation.
I often see Alan Grayson in HP - including this post:
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/09/24/eight-us-congress-members-table-resolution-in-support-of-gibraltar-s-right-to-self-determination#comment353706:
Given the George Washington quote it is difficult for me to see how the interests of the US are served by having any opinion on the status of Gibraltar. This is a contest between two decrepit European powers over a part of their rump empires. Alan Grayson, and the others, should not try and involve the US in this sort of eurotrash rubbish.
Anyone else get the impression that the “Hepatia” identity has more than one operator?
Sep 26th, 2014 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0One has better English than the other.
One is clueless about UK and U.S.
27,
Sep 26th, 2014 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0the USAuses the spannish port and gibralter,
but apparently accordingly if the usa or any onther navy uses the spannish port, they are not allowed to visit gibralter or vids versa,
if this is correct,[someone will tell me ]
then one can understand why the US Navy would rather use Gibraltar than Spain.
ones thinking..
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