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Guest post: the UN is not the solution for a rogue debtor
By Arturo Porzecanski of American University (*) - Jose Antonio Ocampo, a former United Nations official and co-president with Prof. Joseph Stiglitz of Columbia University’s Initiative for Policy Dialogue, which promotes the adoption of heterodox economic policies in developing countries, recently wrote a guest post welcoming a UN General Assembly resolution calling for the launch of negotiations on a multilateral framework for sovereign debt restructuring. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSomeone talking sense at last!
Sep 27th, 2014 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ocampo has an axe to grind. Everything he wrote here is in the shredder already. Only idiots would use such a sequacious zealot as a source of “taking sense at last”.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0And someone talking their crap!
Sep 27th, 2014 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2
Sep 27th, 2014 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is the axe he has to grind ?
Excellent article succinctly explaining the psyche of default embedded in The Dark Country from Nestor / TMBOA all the way down to the majority of citizens themselves.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It won’t change such attitudes one iota: they are a bunch of deadbeats and honest people (and they do exist) have to suffer.
Despicable bunch the Peronistas.
2065 was last heard of in 1984. Stabbed in the back by its best friend in 1982 it lingered for 2 years before fading away. RIP 2065.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Excellent article, the author certainly has Argentina down to a tee, they are serial defaulters which cannot be trusted, who in their right mind would even contemplate lending them money. Why is it the worlds fault that Argentina refuses to pay what it owes?
Sep 27th, 2014 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7. Not quite accurate. Argieland is a serial criminal. It has, maybe, a dozen honest people in its population. In fact, it has, maybe, a dozen people in its population. Look at Tobi. Anal. Belligerent, Corrupt. Cretinous. Criminal. Degenerate. Depraved. Ephemeral. Fatuous. Genocidal. Hate-ridden. Ignorant. Inhuman. Juvenile. Larcenous. Mendacious. Nihilist. Opportunist. Pitiful. Puerile. Putrid. Ridiculous. Selfish. Senile. Spurious. Un virtually everything. Uncivilised. Uneducated. Unnecessary. Vicious. Vituperous. Xenophobic. What sort of 'things' are we permitting in our society? When you identify dangerous bacteria and microbes, what do you do? You isolate them and then you destroy them. What has argieland done FOR the world? Nothing. Time to do the right thing. Destroy a cancer!
Sep 27th, 2014 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh let's face the truth from an Argentine perspective. The jealous gang of corrupt European and North American nations have unfairly ganged up on the Argentine peoples to steal their wealth, plunder the countries natural resources and spread their venom upon the children of San Martín for the past 100 years solely due to devious greed and jingoistic jealousy.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Despite the unselfish sacrifice of hard work and honest intentions by the President and her administration to help the Argentine nations populace to emerge to their rightful position as beacon of freedom, democracy and universal prosperity, the enemies of the nation continue to commit a economic conspiracy to defeat the Peronist dream of a united Latin American democratic workers paradise.
“Argentina, a rogue debtor nation which regularly flouts national laws and international treaties.”
Sep 27th, 2014 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0........Doesn't seem like this guy has an axe to grind...... From the above description, it sounds like he is speaking the Truth.
Maybe that's why Tobi is sulking ( again ).... The Truth hurts
2 Nostrum of NostrolL (#)
Sep 27th, 2014 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sep 27th, 2014 - 10:53 am
Tobias, this article is written by Arturo Porzecanski, an Uruguayan professor. José Antonio Ocampo, wrote a post congratulating the UN on its support of Argentina's initiative.
Why don't you read the article before commenting?
Is there anyone Argentina doesn't owe money to?
Sep 27th, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As part of my portfoliio, I have shares in British Gas.
”...such as British Gas (BG Group), which won an award for $186m plus interest back in 2007 in the ICC Court, an award reviewed and ratified by the US Supreme Court in March of this year, are still awaiting payment”
Therefore Argentina owes me money.
The bitch!
#12
Sep 27th, 2014 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry ILSEN,
You are a part of the jealous gang of corrupt Europeans who have unfairly plundered the natural resources of the Argentine people solely for your own selfish personal greed. Have you no shame?
Piracy is one of the oldest and most noble occupations in history.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not unlike the occupation of the current Argentine president.
I am of course, not referring to carpentry.
Best article on the subject yet!!
Sep 27th, 2014 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The oldest profession is not what the President of Argentina does...
Sep 27th, 2014 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's BEGGING...someone had to ask for it first...
@13 Chicureo
Sep 27th, 2014 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can you explain Argentina's 106th position in the Global Corruption Index?
(PS the UK is in 14th position and Uruguay and Chile are rated in 19th and 22nd place)
Chicureo
Sep 27th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You would have to chop my hands off, hide your street dogs and drown me in cheap Whisky.
Even then I'd insists on two paper bags, one for her and one for me.
Just incase hers falls off!
Argentina today formally appealed to the World Trade Organization (WTO) against the ruling that Argentina violated trade agreements.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.cronista.com/valor/Argentina-apela-una-condena-en-la-OMC-por-el-cepo-a-las-importaciones-20140926-0084.html
And if that doesn't work they can take them back to the UNHRC!
Sep 27th, 2014 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 *chuckle*
Sep 27th, 2014 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Bwahahahahahah! !!!!!!!
Nostril.
Read. The. Article. Before. Comenting.
#17
Sep 27th, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An erroneous report. Obviously Argentina's position is up there with Zimbabwe, Somalia and North Korea.
#18
Now be serious, and speak more respectfully about the representative of virtue and .... Ok,....you're right mate... Two bags at least.
#21
Repent now...
#22
Sep 27th, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“part of a gang of Europeans plundering Lat Am resources”
Are you calling me a conquistador?
I'm not even Spanish!
;-))))))))))
Idiot child Tobias wrote: “Ocampo has an axe to grind. Everything he wrote here is in the shredder already. Only idiots would use such a sequacious zealot as a source of “taking sense at last”.”
Sep 27th, 2014 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is exactly why I call you an idiot child. Everything Professor Arturo Porzecanski writes is well documented.
In your state of schizophrenia, you were even unable to understand, that Professor Porzecanski was commenting on a faulty article by Ocampo.
Claiming, in this connexion, that Ocampo (who defends Argentine policy) has an axe to grind against Argentina is the summit of idiocy.
22,23,24,
Sep 27th, 2014 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nostrils is still trying to understand what is wrong with the statement @13
I expect that he feels vindicated now and will no longer post.
:-)
@ 18 reality check
Sep 27th, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You forgot the wooden stake and hammer though!
PMSL at the mental picture.
It's the only steak I would take her out for!
Sep 27th, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#23
Sep 27th, 2014 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These new world Iberian typically refer to the English and Dutch as the source of all piracy, while considering the Spaniards and Portuguese as the source of the new world civilization. They get a “pass” on a few of their errors of conquest. You others are evil pirates or worse.
26&27
Don't forget the silver bullets, cloves of garlic and a mirror...
@ 25 Troy Tempest
Sep 27th, 2014 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I expect that he feels vindicated now and will no longer post.”
Nothing can stop I.C.Tobias from spewing his hate and unfounded allegations left and right, same as nothing will stop Paulito Cedron from posting in “this 4th class site”, nor keep the first generation implanted squatter Shrinkhead ('Think' ... what?!?) from claiming that a people who has lived in the Falkland Islands for up to 9 generations are implanted squatters.
2 Ocampo has an axe to grind.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Two things:
1. That's rich coming from you.
2. Did you actually read the article?
In that case I am proud to be a Pirate!
Sep 27th, 2014 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina a rogue country?
Sep 28th, 2014 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a bunch of nonsense spewed by an advocate of the vultures that does not precisely contributes to the editorial reputation of this medium.
Of course, the two overwhelmingly supported decisions at the UN are big Argentina victories at the political international level.
As I wrote here a few months ago, Paul Singer thought Argentina would be a walk in the park as it had been the Latin American and African countries he previously plundered with the help of complicit/complacent judiciaries. Argentina, however, was going to be the hard place where the vulture would break its beak. The days for the Singers of this world to do their deeds with impunity are now being counted.
32. Bahahahaha I guess you are enjoying 16/1
Sep 28th, 2014 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are a fool.
Singer will get every penny he is due.
Its a judgement backed by SCOTUS.
I hope CFK destroys your economy by making Argentina a deadbeat and scofflaw.
Who the hell is SCOTUS? I've never heard of them so can't be much meaningful backing.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, Argentina is called a “rogue” by North America and Europe because it has refused to cower in obsequious servitude and truckling slavery to them. They consider anyone who does not submit to their tyrannical yoke “rogue”.
“Who the hell is SCOTUS? I've never heard of them so can't be much meaningful backing.”
Sep 28th, 2014 - 07:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Proves my point about not experiencing life.
If he keeps on calling for the blood of Americans and Europeans, he is going to get all the experience of life he could possibly handle and then some.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 034. Your NPD must make it hard to process that one little judge says in a foreign country can make 20MM Rgs starve.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:)
And now the UN Charter should be amended, so that rogue members could be expelled from the System.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
@36
Sep 28th, 2014 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And in the next breath someone supports mass genocide through starvation.
You people are truly mentally sick, evil individuals.
ANGLOTINO
Sep 28th, 2014 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0heads up - I've posted to your email address
I'm not going to discuss this anymore, it's not worth my time or my heart rate.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The facts are you people wish the murder of Arabs, Argentines, and basically any non-European. You support the bloodshed of anyone living outside of Europe and North America. You value only Europeans and North Americans as humans, all others are less.
Those are the conclusions that anyone can make by reading the prevailing comments.
41 Nostrils
Sep 28th, 2014 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and in turn, by reading your prevailing comments, we have to conclude that Argentines consider it ok to steal from others, and all Argentines are mentally ill with a persecution complex.
@42
Sep 28th, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not certain if you realize that your rejoinder actually helps my cause.
I think anyone with passive participation here has been by now convinced that Argentines are in fact what you state, since that is what everyone has obstreperously asserted.
So that would entail no change of opinion.
CFK and Cia. are funding and promoting causes that are indefensible, and then using delaying tactics and scorched earth policies, trying to punish the righteous...
Sep 28th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See I told you his NPD couldn't figure out who's at fault in this case.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's a real threat of poverty over this mess.
I think US State must be chuckling over all this like we all are. Let the idiot Rgs destroy themselves like the Venezuelans have.
Every day Soy is going down right along with the Peso
95% of the mfg industry depend on imported components
Now they're pay in advance
at 16/1!!!
Only the deep recession has slowed O/G imports.
Still with the deep decrease in Soy revenue it won't make up for the loss in industry.
What to do, what to do??
40
Sep 28th, 2014 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh what a surprise...Not!
Whatever happened to this....
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/09/24/eight-us-congress-members-table-resolution-in-support-of-gibraltar-s-right-to-self-determination#comment354060
.....;-))))
46. You are like the drunk guy at the bar yapping on and on about stuff nobody cares about and everyone tries to get away from.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is it impossible for you to control yourself?
@45
Sep 28th, 2014 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This fool fails to realize that the only reason the US is “growing” is exports and if commodities fall Latin America stops buying US products, and if Europe is still in crisis they don't buy, and if China falters they don't buy. Also if the US really becomes an oil-exporter (very speculative), and prices fall then they would be selling oil at a loss because Fracking requires a high-base price.
What a fool. The USA economy is going nowhere if other regions in the world go down like he predicts.
48. You are wrong on every count in your post.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FYI we already have around 300 years for proven nat gas reserves, drilled ready to go.
I think we'll be just fine.
Like I've been telling you I'm not worried about the USA. I think we're at the start of a new development age and once we have a new Prez that will let it run. Run we will.
Wait and see.
47
Sep 28th, 2014 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For goodness sake, how many variations of that are you going to keep posting....
“You are like that homeless guy stood on a street corner...blah, blah..etc.”
I've got to say you really are original...not!
How's the mansion.....in the design magazine yet...?
Painters finished yet..?
How is Singer's plans to ensnare the Gas Tanker coming along...?
You obviously haven't been working again....you spend all your time here...
Mystic Yankee-Damus....got any new predictions for us yet...?
Well, its kind of the same thing, homeless guy ranting, drunk guy taunting.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Both are apt descriptions of you.
As I told Toby, if my name is not in the article, and I wouldn't expect it to be, I'll post the links of my place when its published.
The painters still aren't done yet but they're supposed to be finished with everything by Thursday.
Actually I am super busy, if you notice when I post its usually when I get up, around lunch, after dinner. Or sometimes when I am waiting around for something and its on my phone. That's when there are lots and lots of typos, small keys and a small screen and an uncooperative auto correct don't make it easy.
As long as the UN keep supporting debtors like Argentina,
Sep 28th, 2014 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They merely give others ammunition to avoid paying their debts,
.
Waddya think Iyam...a gullible Yank....
Sep 28th, 2014 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone can post from a magazine article claiming it is theirs....
...here's my favourite site for ideas....
http://www.houzz.com
But I won't, I've never lied why would I start now?
Sep 28th, 2014 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's why you can't ever catch me in one...
Not like people who don't know which side of the Atlantic they are posting from.
H ha,
Sep 28th, 2014 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which side of the Atlantic are you on,
This side or that side,
And if you were speaking from that side,
Would it be that side of this side?
North Atlantic or south Atlantic
West or east, middle or upper,
Or is it a pond??
Life is such a funny thing, cough cough…
..
54
Sep 28th, 2014 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rubbish I have caught you in lies and I can prove it....
You said...that I said that I travel south from Dulles Airport to go North to PA...
That was a lie and you have yet to show me where I said that....
I can and have shown you the post before...but you hope people will forget...
So that is an outright lie...
I don't understand.....I can and have proved which side of the Atlantic I'm posting from...
#52 Briton
Sep 28th, 2014 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So now that UN members overwhelmingly voted in support of anti-vulture legislation and also to investigate the link between vultures and human rights violations the UN is not good anymore?
To the world's shame, only a handful of the most developed countries, UK and US included, voted against the initiatives, effectively revealing who protects whom, and where the buck stops.
Wake up and get real: unfairness breeds violence, as we see in today's headlines. Only fair distribution of wealth and support to development as opposed to corporate greed will bring lasting peace and well-being to the world.
57. Lemme guess Rg Communist hiding in Canada.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gads that Military Dictatorship didn't do a very thorough job.
These bugs are scatter all over the place infesting other countries.
Only fair distribution of wealth and support...
Sep 28th, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0..that does indeed sound like Communism....
57 Enrique
Sep 28th, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0glad you hold the mighty UN in such high esteem,
First of the UN is the place to deal with is,
This is Argentina we are talking abt,
As for
Unfairness breeds violence
This may well be true,
But are you suggesting that Argentina should not pay its debts,
Are you suggesting that the rich nations of the world should pay off Argentina debts?
This was the sole point, nothing more , nothing less.
.
http://factcheckargentina.org/
Sep 28th, 2014 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK's war against the world
So I will repeat and stand by what I say,
Sep 28th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 01, Argentina should pay her debts
2, the UN is not really the place to air ones dirty laundry
3, she cannot keep blaming others for argentine debt
4-50
she must one way or another pay her debts, full stop,
p/s
unless of course they are not Argentina's debts or Argentina's problem
purely depends on what side of the cot you are screaming from...
I think what he means is there should not be a global “system” that requires nations to BORROW.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is the biggest myth in world economic history that DEBT is an ineluctable condition for progress. This ludicrous tenet has been dogmatically foisted onto international finance and through paltering and false premising and promising, become an inveterate “part” of the sham that is capitalism today.
Since most nations now have been brainwashed into believing debt is the ONLY path out of poverty (think about the cogency of such a concept), carrying debt has become de fact obligatory. Since lenders know this, they have no reason to fear or negotiate: all nations must borrow, so lets have them borrow as much as possible, drive them to bankruptcy, and afterwards unremittingly dun. Once the usury is successful, the process reboots and initiates a new cycle.
Nations become impoverished, peoples are pauperized. Bankers grow ever richer and more powerful.
Modern capitalism encapsulated.
63. Nobody makes anyone borrow you idiot. Gads you're stupid.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Soon you'll see what its like to live in a pay in advance nation.
Methinks you won't like it much.
Exhibit A of this “mentality”, and I am perhaps abusing of using this word loosely, is perspicacious to grasp @64.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any active or casual reader here should SCRUTINIZE the following words:
“Nobody makes anyone borrow you idiot. Gads you're stupid.
Soon you'll see what its like to live in a pay in advance nation.”
Let's reflect upon this pair of statements. The first one avers that NO ONE forces anyone to take on debt, to borrow.
The second statement AT BEST adjures, and at worst issues ominous warning, about what will transpire if one does not borrow.
The analogy to this is: “you don't have to give me you wallet. Soon you will see what it feels like to have a hole in your head if you don't”.
Check mate.
56 Panto - horse
Sep 28th, 2014 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I don't understand.....I can and have proved which side of the Atlantic I'm posting from... ”
Nonsense, you have provided compelling information at times, but PROVEN nothing.
How many times have you made statements about Scotland and then backed off for whatever reason, when Scots press you?
As for saying, “ there is street construction at such & such a street, the shop owners name is Mary ... bla bla bla ... ” - Twitter is a marvellous source of real-time information.
For example, Scan BC gives me up to the minute reports on traffic jams, road closures, police incidents, traffic lights out, burst water mains etc. etc. etc.
There are many similar local sites for every subject, by a multitude of people - all available to any Troll with the Internet.
You have already said you're not Scottish, but who can be bothered to find out what you really are.
Yankeeboy obviously considers work and renovating his house, are more important.
In contrast, you spend your time creating bogus identities and travel stories, and stalking (eg. CaptainSilver), mining for personal information, all to bait and intimidate other posters.
How much of your energy do you put towards this each day??
Sad life you live.
Too bad Nelson and Nigger aren't real. You could get outside and take them for a walk.
LOL !!
65. False Analogy
Sep 28th, 2014 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In an analogy, two objects (or events), A and B are shown to be similar. Then it is argued that since A has property P, so also B must have property P. An analogy fails when the two objects, A and B, are different in a way which affects whether they both have property P.
Your lack of education is painful.
56.Voice, Show me the 1st post where you talked about driving from Pearson, Dulles and JFK to get to Trout Run all in 3 hours. Provide the link and I'll show you that you're the liar not me.
@yankeeboy
Sep 28th, 2014 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Your lack of education is painful.”
And yet Nostril's sole purpose in life is to accumulate more knowledge. Perhaps he should study economics next time instead of adding another useless language. His failure to understand basic economics shows that his raison d'etre has been wasted.
@Troy
I've replied to your email. Thank you. I'm sure you'll be surprised.
@Voice
It's interesting that you pull up Troy on not posting his email address when logically there is no need as I posted mine (as I have done several times before anyway) but you failed to even have the courtesy to reply to me after raising (yet again) your confusion when my reality challenges your assumptions.
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/09/22/a-third-of-argentina-s-population-vulnerable-to-falling-back-into-poverty-says-world-bank#comment354375
You believe you have caught Yankeeboy in lies but you have yet to do the same to me.
68. It would be absolutely impossible for Voice to catch me in a lie, I learned a long time ago not to bother with them.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The truth is hard enough.
Toby doesn't understand basic math. He should start there then move onto home economics..then we'll see.
These subjects are obviously not taught in Argentina public schools.
Yea, all debt is bad is so facile it is in the darn category as printing more money to make people rich......
Sep 28th, 2014 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ooh I should be the Economic Minister for Argentina.
66
Sep 28th, 2014 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Silly boy..didn't you see the photo of the Baton for the Commonwealth games that i posted 20 mins after it passed through a Highland village..
At the same time I photographed a friend of Clyde15 that was watching the procession...and posted that...
Clyde placed the exact spot from where I took the pic and did indeed confirm that was his friend.
His friend was also wearing the exact clothes that I had described on here a month previous to the event...his favourite off duty casuals....
This proved that I knew his friend and that I was exactly at that time and place to take the picture.....
Dumbass.......
68
Puppet Troy was the one that was going to post the email not you....
Until I mentioned it could betray his whereabouts....
I also don't believe a word you say.....3 months off work just for the asking....
...you would also have to pay for your tuition fees..no bursary with a job....
More likely is no job and free studies as you may qualify....or more likely it's all bullshit....
How convenient it's Vancouver where Troy is supposed to be....
...and what is this...Oh Troy I have emailed you...?
That's theatrics for our benefit....he would know....are you guys in the stone age my emails come to my phone....
71 AVoiceofThink
Sep 29th, 2014 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who took the picture?
How long was that person there??
You've proven nothing Voicey.
You seem to have outsmarted us... or me, that is... *sigh*
How many 'socks' do I have now????
MonkeyMagic, Anglotino, and Captain Poppy, was it???
Chuckle, chuckle.... !!
The intelligence border lies between 65 and whatever comes after it.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Voice
Sep 29th, 2014 - 04:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still confused?
“Puppet Troy was the one that was going to post the email not you.... Until I mentioned it could betray his whereabouts....”
He was. But I posted mine first. The same email I have used on this site for 2 years:
http://goo.gl/uZCw6u
http://goo.gl/uZCw6u
“I also don't believe a word you say.....3 months off work just for the asking....”
Minimum annual leave requirement in Australia is 4 weeks. Which you can accumulate. So 3 months leave is entirely possible.
http://goo.gl/uZCw6u
However that is not the case with me. But my job will be here when I come back. I already said that my job takes into account my studies.
Also you obviously have missed the several referencing to my owning real estate.
http://goo.gl/uZCw6u
http://goo.gl/uZCw6u
“...you would also have to pay for your tuition fees..no bursary with a job.... More likely is no job and free studies as you may qualify....or more likely it's all bullshit....”
I haven't paid a cent so far for my degree. It is called HECS-HELP and is deferred through the tax system - http://goo.gl/uZCw6u I definitely don't qualify for free study. I just pay for books and art supplies.
http://goo.gl/uZCw6u
http://goo.gl/uZCw6u
“How convenient it's Vancouver where Troy is supposed to be....”
Really? I'm going to Mexico for 2 months but it is convenient that I will be in Vancouver for 3 days? Get some perspective, I study Urban Design and Planning - Vancouver, Portland & LA all feature heavily in my studies.
“...and what is this...Oh Troy I have emailed you...? That's theatrics for our benefit....he would know....are you guys in the stone age my emails come to my phone....”
I was being polite. If he hadn't told me I wouldn't have known. I only use this email address to login in here so I didn't have it set up on my phone - I don't need Mercopress updates every 3 hours. iPhone 5S in case you are wondering - yes I'm a Macboy.
You can't trip me up because I don't lie. Feel free to keep trying though.
#58 yankeeboy
Sep 29th, 2014 - 05:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shame on you. I will suggest you either don't know what you are talking about or you lack the slightest empathy for fellow human beings. Picture yourself kidnapped; handcuffed, blindfolded and then submitted to all sorts of atrocities for days, weeks and months, asked questions you may nor may not have an answer for, all that for days, weeks or months in a row until you are but the shadow of yourself, then you are sedated, loaded on a plane and dropped in the ocean, all without prior process so you may or may not be a Communist or whatever other sort of sinner your sick mind estimates worth of being exterminated.
You say you would not be on that situation because you are not a Communist? I got news for you. In the Argentina of the 1970s you did not need to have that magic Party Card. You could be a Catholic priest and still be at risk; in fact several were murdered by the military. You could have been a high-school student, a home maker, a lawyer or journalist or whatever else you may think of.
Many of your fellow Argentine ex military dictators are now rotting in prison after undergoing legal trials; you would probably be in good company, and perhaps could teach them how to do better the next time.
Shame on you.
Don't be silly, Enrique.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yankeeboy is pro-Junta, just Anti-Communist.
That's what he feels you must be, an Argentine Communist who doesn't live there, and therefore continues to support failed populist ideals.
You are a Communist, right?
He obviously feels
75. So you're a Communist living outside of Argentina.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm let me guess did you moved there in the 70s?
Your vile ways infect Society and drag it under every time your open your mouth.
I don't know how stupid you have to when there's not one example of where Marxism/Communism/Collectivism whatever you want to call it works long term. Not one.
Even now you can look to Cuba and Venezuela to see the misery it brings its people.
It is evil and vile
and so are you if you spout that nonsense.
@75 : Just for the sake of balance , could you enlighten the audience as to why the military undertook these extreme measures ?
Sep 29th, 2014 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could it have something to do with the hundreds that the ERP and Montoneros kidnapped , tortured and murdered, including an ex president ? Or the the hundreds of members of the police and armed forces shot or blown up , some with their wives and children ?
Why doesn't this government try some of the guerrillas who carried out these vile acts ?
Oh , silly me , because they ARE the government .....
Sorry
Sep 29th, 2014 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YankeeBoy is NOT Pro-Junta
just ANTI-Communist
Sorry, YB
#78 “The Usurping Pirate”
Sep 29th, 2014 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just so you know, a civilized state cannot respond to whatever horror happens by unleashing more of the same. That is the difference between terrorism and state terrorism, and that is why those responsible for crimes against humanity in the 1970s are offered fair trails. Their victims were no that lucky.
You are implying the civil population did something bad enough to deserve what happened between 1976 and 1983.
And again, just so you know, the thousands kidnapped, tortured and killed never faced a trial in which their guilt or innocence could be determined. Not even babies were spared from the piously Catholic generals.
I can't believe we are still in 2014 debating what happened in Argentina 40 years ago. But as the saying goes, “none so blind as those who will not see.”
@80 Enrique Massot
Sep 29th, 2014 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So those Argentinians that were involved in the invasion (an act war) of the Falkland Islands in 1982 should also be punished ?
@80 Enrique
Sep 29th, 2014 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem a little off course.
The UN is not a Court of Appeal for debtor nations.
Your government, the previous administration and the current administration, have perpetuated the crisis they find themselves in.
As the elected and legal government of Argentina, they have refused to pay back money they borrowed, they refuse to honour their contractual obligations, and when the Court jurisdiction they DID agree to, found against them in judgement, they refuse to abide by the legal ruling, despite being granted a 70% concession on their debt.
In effect, Argentina has stolen over $70b from ordinary retirees, after promising to pay it back, with interest.
Now, you say, “ not fair, you're tyrants!”
You have no moral high ground.
Well said Troy.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice must still be Googling my old posts!
Sep 29th, 2014 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You gave him a handful of stuff, there.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You probably stopped him dead with his knee jerk objections. He needs new material and a new avenue of attack.
Voice... with new material... surely you jest?
Sep 30th, 2014 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0True, his favourite subject is still, himself.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0We all know how old that material is!
Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0I've been patiently waiting on him to show me the string of posts where he claimed I was lying.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still nothing...
Not surprising tho..
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Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yo ready for this...? Yankeeboy liar....
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/08/03/cristina-fernandez-will-chair-security-council-debate-on-un-relations-with-regional-organizations#comment266832
Do you see anywhere in that post that I say that I travel South from Dulles Airport...?
Sooo...now tell me why you tell lies.....;-))))
That's not the original thread as I asked, but these are priceless:
Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.I always keep under 30mph over the limit.......big trouble if you don't. So your 110 mph is nonsense!.......95 tops!
.Even at 75mph one could cover 225 miles in 3 hours......now increase the speed but allow for slight delays.
Rural PA 2 lane Hwys...Bahahahaha you've obviously never been there.
I read through almost all of those posts and my assessment of you being a drunken loudmouth is spot on.
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Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sooo......what about your lies...? Nice to try and deflect.....
It's the original thread where I give directions and route from Dulles.....;-)))
Where does it say I head SOUTH???
BOY... I said BOY ...WHERE DOES IT SAY I HEAD SOUTH???
You obviously don't drive...the US15 is more than a 2 lane highway and it goes where I want to go..IT GOES RIGHT TO TROUT RUN...it is what is known in the UK as a dual carriageway for the most part...
FYI...I have been caught by a State Trooper on the US15...doing 89mph....a risk you take...
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Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ ...stopped by a State Trooper... ”
Didn't think to mention that before??
Sounds like an afterthought embellishment.
Regurgitation of an extremely old argument.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guess I'm off the hook.
92. Deflect? Nope, I asked you for the original thread and what you posted was a carry-on conversation where Cap and I pointed out your lies.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I told you before I drive that route a few times a year to go to my family's lake house in NY and you are just plain lying. There are too many small towns, hills, 2 lane hwys with trucks to go that fast ESPECIALLY between Harrisburg to Williamsport. You're just a filthy liar.
So try again with the original string of posts and I'll show you again exactly where you lied and I proved you wrong.
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Sep 30th, 2014 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't know when the last time you took the 15...but for starters it bypasses Harrisburg and there has been a lot of upgrading on it...there is still a stretch by the river where it climbs that is slower, but not for long....
You are also lying... that post is the first time I mentioned the route I take from Dulles....
Also I remember keeping my speeding ticket from the State Trooper and I'm going to dig it out and post a picture of it.....then you are going to look like a right dick...
Not only will it show my speed, but also the location on the 15 just before the New York State border...when I was heading North to catch a flight at Pearson driving a Canadian Rental....
It will also show the calculation of the fine....around 180 odd dollars.....
You are such a lying twat....why would you take the US15 from DC to go to New York State that is a dog leg...you would probably take the 83 then the 81....
Last time I drove that route was just about a year ago. I'm sure it hasn't changed that much since then.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I never lie.
But its easy to catch you isn't it.
Soooo...why would you use the 15 to go to New York State....anyone can look at the map and realise that is plain dumb....
Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spit it out...Why Yankee Why...?
...it's easy to catch you isn't it...
Er, My final destination is one of the finger lakes, genius.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My family was one of the original settlers in that part of NY. We've owned property there since right after the Revolutionary war. I know it well as have my past 10+ generations of family.
Gads you're an idiot.
You're the idiot...you are trying to say you take the 15 after Harrisburg...you must take the 83 before that and not the lower part of the 15 that I take from Dulles...unless you were coming from VA....
Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Finger lakes...not that far from where I was caught speeding...I head the other way nr Corning towards the 90 to Buffalo then Canada....
As I said earlier to Anglotino, Voice was preparing “new material” to re-fight his failed “Trout Run” campaign, again.
Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, ho hum...
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Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another one that will look stupid when I post the speeding ticket...showing I do travel at 89 mph through rural Pennsylvania...;-)))
Ho hum...
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Hahaha Finger Lakes area for generations....You are Fred Bates born in Rochester upstate New York....;-))))
Thanks for that.....;-)
Voice, Must I take 83? Why must I? So you were going 89 on 390? Is your story changing again?
Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Funny how it changes so much whenever you are called out, filthy liar.
Funny how that is..
BTW still no link to our original conversation on the 3 hours from Person, Dulles or JFK...why's that?
Hmm
Why's that?
No need to try and deflect...I know what road you must take because I know where you are coming from...;-)))....Fred....
Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did I say I was born there? No, I didn't. Maybe I was born in PA where my family had coal mines around Pittsburg or VA where we had a farm for 250+ years around Williamsburg...or or or or
Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0You've been shown to be a liar and a fool.
Hmm still no links
I wonder why?
Isn't it your bed time or wait is it dinner time or wait bed?
idiot
Corning to Buffalo alone, along the 90, is 2 hrs 45min at the speed limit. !!
Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0But why would you head to the 90 at Henrieta, when taking the 390 and the 20, is half an hour shorter??
That doesn't make sense for an impatient fool who is speeding to bring his travel time to a minimum.
Silly fool.
I've been on those roads too, Voicey.
Lots of driving on the NY Thruway, the Pennsylvania Turnpike etc.
I even had my picture in the Corning newspaper once.
BTW,
with no traffic, over 3 hours from Trout Run to Buffalo, and even longer if you take Voice's proposed route on the 90.
Odd that you allowed yourself to be humiliated before, and NOW, you have a ticket - crucial info blotted out, I expect.
No you didn't, but you were...
Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have never shown me to be a liar....
I'll explain it for you again...I take the 15..join the 390 go through Danville then nr Geneseo head towards Batavia and join the 90 and on to Buffalo...Niagara...then Pearson.
I have tried other ways, but that is the fastest....
...or or or Fred Bates....;-)))
Hey sucker....
Oh, story is modified now - it figures.
Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just like your last attempt.
More like a 5 hour trip Voicey - wasting my time and effort - you're so easily debunked.
Good night.
Sweetie why do you like to be humiliated time and again?
Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually all 3 of us have shown you to be a filthy liar
Again, if you think that's me I am waiting by the phone call me anytime.
I've been waiting for years if you add in Think's time
Yet nary a call
Not even a text
or a little email
I wonder why, don't you believe your own posts either?
Maybe next time I've driving through I stop by Lycoming Mall and look for a loudmouth drunk but only if you promise I won't get fleas.
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Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0...there has never ever been a modification that has always been my route north.
Now let me prove that I know the roads better than you....
Buffalo to Batavia is 44 mins....Batavia to Corning is 1 hour 35 mins...that knock s20 minutes off your suggested route...
That's because you have never driven this route the amounts of times I've had to so piss off...I'm tired of proving you wrong....
Numpty.....
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Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone can google it, Voicey.
Is that why it took you so long to answer?
How many times are you going to go to this well?
You blew it before.
How much attention do you need?
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Oct 01st, 2014 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0hahaha proved you wrong yet again.....;-)))
How embarrassed you must be...
Do the calculation numbnuts
Buffalo to Batavia...44 mins
Batavia to Corning..1 hr 35
Corning to Trout Run...1hr 2 mins
......;-))))
Who is it that travels 89 mph again..Oh it's me...
Is there anyone else that wants to be made a fool of...?
Learn from this...you can't be caught out when you don't lie.....Puppet....
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Hey Fred Bates in DC...deny that you are Fred Bates....;-)))
109 YB
Oct 01st, 2014 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0I found the “loud mouthed drunk” for you.
He's right here.
Hey Fred...have you ever heard my Yankee accent....it's pretty good....a lot of practice...
Oct 01st, 2014 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you do showings.....;-)))))
Unbelievable exchange....
Oct 01st, 2014 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Coice and Think, both double down when they're humiliated. Its like none of us can add simple math.
Oct 01st, 2014 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor thing, ranting and raving at the ether
If they weren't such dicks I would feel sorry for them.
but i don't and I am glad they're miserable
How much was the 'fine', I wonder? Chuckle.
Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did Voicey pay the Trooper on the spot, being a foreigner with an out of state car?
117. I don't know what the rule is in NY but I doubt they'd just let him go if he was going 40mph over the speed limit driving a out of country rental and on a foreign license.
Oct 01st, 2014 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Plus you know he was a dick to the trooper.
That's a given.
You two give it a rest...I've got you beat....let it go otherwise you are going to look foolish...I can prove it...
Oct 01st, 2014 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...move on...
...and don't you bother reading, I said how much the fine was and I said it was in PA close to the NY State line...
No one with any sense would be a dick to a state trooper....hand hovering in the region of his gun...
“Evening Sir... is there a problem?”...;-)))
Okay prove it.
Oct 01st, 2014 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you were clocked going 89 on 15 somewhere in the winding hills of PA right before you hit NY? And you didn't have to post bail? Driving a foreign plated car w/ a foreign license.
Hmm that sounds a bit far fetched.
So go ahead and prove us to look foolish...go ahead, we're waiting.
While you're at it post the link to the original discussion where you could make it from Pearson, JFK and Dulles to Trout Run.
Go ahead
We're waiting
120 Yankeeboy
Oct 01st, 2014 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Golly,
I love his threats “.... another one who's going to look foolish when I post the ticket of my photo... ”
I just googled NY speeding tickets, and clicked 'images'
I got thousands of NY speeding ticket images.
I'm sure there's one near Corning.
Same for Penn. tickets as well.
Here's an example:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=speeding+tickets+ny+state&biw=320&bih=460&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=iw4sVJDPJoTziQK30ID4CQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw#facrc=_&imgrc=DIdBOvqServMlM%253A%3ByNEZRKaEBL1yrM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.redlichlaw.com%252Ftraffic%252Fticket.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.redlichlaw.com%252Ftraffic%252Fny-speeding-ticket.html%3B612%3B792
What a horse's patoot this guy is....
LOL !!!
He's PROVEN nothing.
Not so bright - he's full of himself and underestimates everyone else.
Voice......NY State Trooper you say. BTW......did he/she approach you on the driver or passenger side> Anyhoo
Oct 01st, 2014 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You never answered me how you Scottish freedom when? But.....I assume this far down you were for the the Union, no?
Capt.
Oct 01st, 2014 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He didn't originally specify. He said “ near Corning”
Now he says it was in Penn. “ near NY border”
Here's Hwy 15 in Penn - check out the StreetView photo
- 2 lane blacktop - 89?? sure... Troopers don't like that from foreigners - he'd be in the local pokey and car impounded.
Mt Carmel-Merriam Hwy
http://goo.gl/maps/OEvUV
Voice and Think tend to double down when they are proven wrong.
Oct 01st, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder why they both tend to do the same thing?
So, I've driven through that part of PA at least 25X in the last decade. It would be pretty hard to stump me on anything there.
Funny story, one time I took an old 79 240D we keep around at the summer house on that hwy and the hills were so steep the best I could do was get it up to 40-45 with all of these cars blowing their horns at me but couldn't pass because it was too dangerous or wasn't allowed. It was hilarious but I never did that again :)
124 YB
Oct 01st, 2014 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those W123's are well-loved cars, but slowish. :-)
I hope you still have it - they're becoming quite chic amongst the hipster set, along with the W114/115.
Yes, I can imagine nobody could maintain a consistent high speed on those roads.
Only a fool would try to say that.
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Oct 01st, 2014 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Drivers side Pops....looking quite tense as my hands were out of site as I was rummaging in the door compartment for the rental documents....
Not a wise thing to do....I was told afterwards....
Like out of a movie Troopers hat and dark sunglasses....;-))
I answered you Pops check your post...I always answer you...
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What a plonker...that link is not the US15....it's nowhere near...;-)))
It was somewhere near here..
https://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&fb=1&q=Seneca+Lake&ei=Bv0rVPnKH4bg7QaK5ICABA&ved=0CB8Q8gEoADAA
Look at that clear open road ...two lanes on both carriageways....dumbass....
In the middle of Seneca Lake?
Oct 01st, 2014 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only road around there is not anything you could do 89 on. No way.
It doesn't even have night time lighting fool.
I thought you were going to post something to show us how foolish we all are..
All you did was post something that makes you more foolish
as usual
knob
Huh.... google maps doesn't appear to let you link the place....
Oct 01st, 2014 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...go to google maps, then put in...
41.958979,-77.120562
then go to street view....
...Fred....
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Oct 01st, 2014 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another big time-wasting exercise from Voice, just to get attention for himself.
Sorry, Voice - yer boring.
Later...
Drivers side huh....well, perhaps NY State is a little behind the times in protocols approaching cars. It's far safe, better inside and a clear and easy head shot approaching on the passenger side. SOP in Massachusetts for Troopers and in fact all of the New England states. Even the locals use it now.
Oct 01st, 2014 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, I must have missed you response. Whatever is was the Scotts who lost are probably better off in the end.
Boring, I've been on that road at least 25X in the last decade. Obviously way more than you.
Oct 01st, 2014 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where's the post that's supposed to embarrass me Troy and Cap?
Come on we are waiting
knob
I don't know why you are trying to include Pops....
Oct 01st, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's you two I'm going to make fools of.....
I can't find the ticket...
..but I have found the Receipt of Response To Citation/Summons...
I was close with my location a few miles south of it....N Mill Creek Bridge to be exact..
Driving a Pontiac Sedan.. Reg...AXRK938...State ON...I guess that would be Ontario...seeing as I hired it from Pearson....
I'll get round to posting it....;-)
BTW the..
Charge. Section and Subsection Violated...is
$75....$3362...$$A1..1 - 24
If you look up the citation codes 3362 means maximum speed limit violation..
...the 24 is the mph over the limit and the limit was 65mph on that stretch...
This is used to calculate the amount of fine...
$42.50 for breaking the limit then $2 for every mile over it...
...plus court costs etc....
...Fred Bates...born Rochester....now in DC....;-)
Still waiting for the post that's going to embarrass me.
Oct 01st, 2014 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Except I never lived in Rochester. Been there tho, pretty horse farms in the burbs it but I would never live there its too cold for me.
I know my phone hasn't rung, have you been bothering that poor guy in DC?
...it's you alrighty...
Oct 01st, 2014 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or are you now going to deny you are a Realtor.....
Never mind that, where are the posts and the promised photos??
Oct 01st, 2014 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will neither confirm or deny anything because it has no bearing on my insightful posts nor your inane lies.
Oct 01st, 2014 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's the same reason I won't tell you where I live.
Why would it matter one way or the other?
Amazing how much information Voice demands of people.
Oct 02nd, 2014 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0137 Anglotino,
Oct 02nd, 2014 - 03:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0...and for what reason, one asks?
As YB says, “what difference would it make anyway?”
Voicey kreps his info secret, never makes a definitive statement - small target.
You can bet he would use YB's personal info for his own snide nasty purposes.
What a sh!t he is.
I bet Mrs. Voice left a long time ago, and the kids don't speak to him.
Far too much energy wasted on the fool.
Same as Think.
Oct 02nd, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder why
Oddly enough, while reading about speeding tickets on Google, one of the photographs, a ticket from NY State showed a speeding car did 89 mph.
Oct 02nd, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Coincidence??
I wish I had bookmarked it, can't pull it up now, lost amongst the great number of others.
Waste of time Fcukwit...read through the post again...
Oct 02nd, 2014 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2014/09/27/guest-post-the-un-is-not-the-solution-for-a-rogue-debtor#comment355439
”Not only will it show my speed, but also the location on the 15 just before the New York State border...when I was heading North to catch a flight at Pearson driving a Canadian Rental....
What part of...
....heading North just before the New York State border...
..didn't you understand....JUST BEFORE not AFTER...
...that puts it in PA you Moron....
Thanks for your reply.
Oct 02nd, 2014 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was fishing for that, and you walked into it.
Now, when you post your imaginary ticket that you say you can't produce, you can't pluck the NY ticket off the 'net and say “ oh, well, close enough!”
Chuckle - paint yourself into a corner again.
Sure you did....
Oct 02nd, 2014 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...anyone believe him...?
...what a moron....you haven't a clue about the geography of the US....
...that's because you're a Puppet....;-)))
“Where's your ticket?”
Oct 02nd, 2014 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...nada
“Where's your citation?”
...crickets...
Where are your “embarrassing posts”???
...silence.
Good view from the bridge, right?
Chuckle chuckle
I'd say come back play again tomorrow, but you've used up all your tokens.
so funny :-)
Last Thursday I went from Preston Lancashire to Reading Berkshire on the M6 motorway in 2hrs 30 minutes.
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0@145 golfcronie
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An obvious lie. Nothing moves on the M6 ever, in fact entire generations have been brought up as traffic jam babies, it is a well established 'fact'. ;)
146
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ ...but if you check it out on Google Maps.... any fool can see... bla bla bla... ”
Forget it guys, Voice has abandoned thread, slunk away back under his rock.
PMSL
Whew, glad I wasn't holding my breath waiting for Voice to show me an embarrassing post I made..
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow I really dodged a bullet.
He's such a fool I don't know why he even tries. I really wonder if its some sort of pseudo pycho sexual humiliation thing with him
I can't figure out why else he keeps coming back
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Oct 03rd, 2014 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice has had all week now - geez, in that time, he could've
had a printing shop or forger buddy of his, mock up a Penn. ticket AND a citation.
Shee-oot, why not a “Citizen of the Year Award” from the village of Trout Run ??
Put this one back on the shelf.
Give it 2 months til he tries again
Troy, As I've said I know that area well. It is full of hillbillies with houses that cost around the price of my car or less.
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why he'd pick that spot over all the amazing places in the USA to have a 2nd home is quite telling.
He's bitter and lonely
and it shows
Well, that's assuming he's actually there, but I take your point - well suited to someone like him.
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I suppose he could always drive into Allentown if he's seeking the 'camaraderie' of a bar fight or the grumbling of other drunks.
Oh there are plenty of “taverns” near trout run filled with large Welfare recipients spending their whole paycheck at the bar and McDonalds.
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've had to stop there to get gas a time or two. Not a pretty picture.
IF he were ever there.
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With Voicey's attitude, they'd beat the crap out of the mouthy foreigner within 5 minutes, just for fun.
Lucky if he wasn't robbed when he started bragging about owning property etc.
Fun to think about though.
Ha ha ha...
That's hardcore buck country. He's more likely to have a stray “.306” pierce a random part on him than robbed or beaten. Especially coming into rut season and hunting.
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@146
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was just trying to change the thread, was tired of talk about the Journey somepne did in the USA, who fuc***g cares? But you are quite right. Anyway I would leave the M6 at Birmingham on the M42, and then the M40. The M25 is considered to be the largest carpark in Europe.
154. Accidents happen.
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, this thread is 'done'.
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voicey has been chased out of the room after smarting from having his ears boxed.
Now, what can a rogue debtor do, but pay up?
All their strategies are failing.
But they DO have a new Sky Marshall...
Voice do you cross the border at the Peace Bridge, was that your entry point into the USA? You have a Green Card right?
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do Argentines need a Visa to enter the U.S. ?
Oct 04th, 2014 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0How long does that take to get in?
ahh, forget it, Voicey has never tried to enter, or he's on the No-Fly List.
Anyway, he's wasting our time on here.
Sorry, Poppy, YB, bailing on this thread, guys.
RG's need a Visa to enter the USA and it is getting harder to get one,unless you can pull a string here and there. RG's need one to get into Canada as well but they are not giving them out to Argentine's for some reason.
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