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Cristina Fernandez claims US is responsible for Judge Griesa's decision

Tuesday, September 30th 2014 - 07:00 UTC
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President Cristina Fernandez said US Judge Thomas Griesa decision to declare Argentina 'in contempt of court' in the dispute with speculative funds, was in violation of international law, the UN chart and the OAS (Organization of American States) chart. Read full article

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  • Brit Bob

    CFK is playing the Blame game again trying to detract her electorate away from the facts - incompetent economic and political governance. Her use of 'in violation of international law' is rich considering her attitude towards the Falkland Islanders and their right to self-determination which Argentina tries to deny. (Laughably). Little wonder why the country is in dire straights.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    They accept the jurisdiction of the court in order to secure cheaper loans then reject its jurisdiction when they renege on them.

    Notice she doesn't specify which “international law” has been breached.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    Anyone paying attention to her actions over the last few years already knew she has contempt for the US courts. This is not really news.

    Still hilarious though

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Swiss Bob

    Argentina age 13¾.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    It's all a matter of interpretation, Argentins thinks it need only say what something is, to make it so!

    They don't actually read the damn things they sign up to, that would mean they would have an obligation to respect them.

    Argentina and respect are not two words you associate with each other.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Some piece of work.

    International Law?
    Unprovoked attack on a sovereign country,
    illegal take-over of overseas assets.

    Yup, she is some piece of work,
    upset about paying the hold-out bond owners - something she could easily do out of the small change in her personally 'accrued ' fortunes.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    No practical effect...yet.

    Just another slap in the face, another embarrassment to live down, another way to show the world that Argentina is a deadbeat scofflaw.
    Just incase they missed it before.

    The noose is getting tighter and tighter.
    I really don't think she'll make it until the end of her term.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Such an ebarrassment to have this crazy old hag running us into the ground.
    Ok Pagotroll now it's your turn. Let's hear from the La Campora paid troll on what a great job she is doing.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    There are so many parallels with the Falklands.

    1. Blaming the UK for the democratic decision of the Falkland islanders.
    2. Blaming the US for decisions of an independent judge.

    I think what is at the core of this issue is that Argentina and probably south America as a whole really never understood democracy. But we now see it in Spain too, blocking the the vote of Catalonia like it will make a difference in the long run, demanding control of Gibraltar against their expressed will. We sometimes forget that the hispanic world have only had democracy for a short time.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    From a legal aspect, they must surely be screwed, who is going to enter into a contract with them under their law, ie UK, FRENCH, SWISS etc, if they are in contempt of a court elsewhere?

    The Chinese and the Russians maybe, but they have their own way of dealing things like this.

    Saying this has no effect on them is rediculous, of course it does, it's prima facia evidence of bad character

    It's one think for a financial body to say you do not respect the rule of law and a totally different thing for a court to declare it.

    You can not pick and chose which laws you will respect, it doesn't work that way in the real world it's all or none.

    Perhaps that's it, they do not actually live in the real world!

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Ah! The Mad Bitch Of Argentina, don't you gasp at her ability to tell bare faced lies, even though she hasn't got a bare face just a rubber one.

    I think she genuinely believes that the US government can control the judges. The reply from Kerry, if he bothers might be an insight to what the US governmant are thinking.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    To all of you bellicose human scum including this stooge Judge Griesa, who obviously is in on the the payroll of Singer, that question our beloved Cristina Fernández's leadership in defeating these capitalistic vultures trying to destroy the hardworking laborers efforts to feed their families. It is remarkably clear your evil plans include plundering the hard earned savings of the people of Argentina through economic terrorism which will not be tolerated by our noble leadership.
    The vultures have glaringly revealed their true colors! As Cristina has bravely said, “With me as President, they will not see us on our knees”

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    The mental picture of this woman on her knees as just reminded me of something.

    Where did I leave that beer bottle opener?

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bubba

    That is a really ugly mental picture, Botox Queen on her knees....

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    ”Argentine president blamed the United States “for the actions of any of its organs, such as the recent decision of its Judicial branch”.

    She thinks that because the Argentine government gets away with corrupting democracy by telling the judiciary what to do, that this behaviour applies everywhere. Just another example of why Argenina is not a proper democracy.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    *popcorn*
    She's off her rocker if she thinks this will wash!
    *gets more popcorn*
    :-))))

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Oh gosh, now they're pulling out the ICJ again.
    The USA would never, never, never subject ourselves to ICJ rulings.
    Do they not understand Int'l law is what we say it is?

    In 30 days they will be declared in default on another class of bonds, cross-default, and nobody will lend to them, nobody.
    BCRA “reserves” will continue to fall and at some point they'll have to pay the U$5B they owe to imports. And by my count that's their whole cash position.
    Then what?
    I hope they know that this will not automatically disappear in Jan 15 when they beg the holdouts to take their money.
    By then all defaulted bondholders will have accelerated and they'll be in it deep.
    I couldn't be happier.
    I am hoping for a HOT DRY Summer, really hot, really dry.
    That'll make it interesting.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Oh, the embarrassment for a nation of proud people.

    How is she going to explain this away?

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rick from Maryland

    Those sound like fighting words.

    Should I be worried that the Argintine fleet will appear over the horizon?

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Yes, you despicable vulture fund laugh, but soon you will cry. Meanwhile, the Nation of Argentina has more troubling news to our dear leader's son.

    “Argentina's Máximo Carlos Kirchner has piled on so much weight that he has fractured both his ankles and remains in hospital after an operation, it was reported today.
    The son of the late President Néstor Kirchner and current President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner of the financially troubled nation of Argentina is estimated to have ballooned to 20 stone as a result of fine wining and dining - putting enormous pressure on his feet and legs.
    A source who has recently returned to Miami from Buenos Aires said Maximo, believed to be aged 37 is still in hospital under guard from his personal protection team.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2774604/Maximo-hospital-two-fractured-ankles-ballooning-20-stone-going-numerous-meet-people-walkabout-PR-stunts.html#ixzz3EnipkM8l

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wallace

    What is the point of all of this, Argentina won't be able to issue bonds under US Law while ever they remain in contempt. That means they can try to issue bonds under Argentine law but who in their right mind would buy those without an outrageously high interest rate. In the end, they still remained locked out of capital markets.

    They are trying to frame this as Argentina vs United States. In reality, Argentina issued bonds to private citizens of the world and agreed to settle any disputes in the courts of the United States. Now the decision didn't go their way, they have changed their mind. This seems incomprehensible to my western brain but quite acceptable to most Rgs that I talk to.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ahab

    @19

    The way the Argentine navy ships stay afloat I'd be looking under the horizon.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    21. All luney dictators always try to blame the USA for their problems. CFK is merely taking on Chavez's vacated position.
    Argentina is Venezuela without the Oil.
    My guess they've seen the last of the 2 digit inflation numbers.
    At what point is an economy considered in Hyperinflation?
    Anyone know?
    :)

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wallace

    “Hyperinflation is a situation where the price increases are so out of control that the concept of inflation is meaningless”

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    24. Yes but is that 100% , 200%, 1000%? At what point will everyone start reporting that Argentina is in Hyperinflation?

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Argentina made public the letter it sent KERRY.

    The reply has not been made public, why?

    Because he wouldn't dignify such a request, with a reply.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    @Taxiboy

    1000% yoy is the most commonly applied definition for hyperinflation but some economists use 50%. Argentina won't reach 1000% but 50%+ seems likely in 2015.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wallace

    #25 Its subjective, think of it this way, you are buying a car for delivery in 1 week or 1 month but you can't agree on a price because you don't know what the price should be in 1 week, 1 month. Or you wake up in the morning and you don't know how much your bus fare will be that day. We are not there yet but we will get there, the only way to avoid it is to regain access to capital markets and take on debt, or send the country into a spiralling depression.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • owl61

    I believe there is a middle ground here.
    Sovereign debtors ought (e.g. Arg, Iceland, Greece, etc) to be able to refinance their delinquent debt , even if it entails giving bondholders a severe haircut. Such debt workouts ought to be negotiated to give the debt restructuring a patina of fairness, not simply dictated on a take it or leave it basis as Arg did in 2005 and 2010. However, even if so dictated, rewrites of debt may be absolutely necessary and beneficial in the long run.
    Well drafted collective action clauses that ought to have been included in the original bonds would have prevented the current problem of a small % of holdouts gumming up the works...and perhaps Arg ought to be focused on its lawyers and their malpractice carriers rather than the US govt which supported Arg's position in court.
    It's just not realistic to require Arg to repay 100% of the original debt with all interest to the holdouts (incl those similarly situated holdouts waiting in the wings) even though the New York law that Arg's lawyers chose may require such an outcome. The holdouts ought to insist upon a reasonable premium (+actual attny fees) for having had to go through the winning legal process. That position ought to be made public with payment date to be post the RUFI termination date of 12/31. That might go a long way towards resolving this matter on a fair basis, quite apart from the letter of the law. (“The law is a ass”).

    By having both sides dig their heels in is a losing position for both.
    p.s. The only benefit to a continuation of the struggle is the post judgment discovery into the ties between Baez and the Kirchners. I have little doubt there is going to be proof of corruption unearthed.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • willi1

    ck loses more and more her brain.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Biguggy

    @ #29
    An interesting concept with one major drawback. It will give rogue states, such as Argentina, a formula for reneging on their debt even more than they do at the moment.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    How long before they start blaming this mob?

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/171040/questions-arise-over-strategy-carried-out-by-argentine-lawyers

    At least they can be considered partially responsible for this shambles.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Plain idiotic.... When is this nightmare going to finish??

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

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    Sep 30th, 2014 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Meanwhile, Boudou got hauled in and fingerprinted. Look squirrel!
    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/171060/vp-boudou-in-court-to-have-fingerprints-taken

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    I do not know english. One virtue!

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    @32 Idlehands

    they should have arranged a “no fee no win” agreement.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @1, 2. what would argieland know about international law? Remember Panama and Noriega? Get in there!
    @19. The argie 'fleet' couldn't appear 'over' anything. Can argies 'breathe' water?
    @20. So. A fat argie slug that will die soon. How is this news?
    @29. Got another 'name' you'd like to 'share' with us? How about 'british bummer' or 'hepatitis'?
    @34. And quite soon argies will be 'shadows'. Otherwise known as dead. Translate that!

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I wonder how many of you remember me saying this next collapse will be worse than 2001, remember the Rgidiots claiming no other person was saying that and said it will be a mild downturn and I was obviously lying and have no idea what I am talking about
    Hmm remember that?
    Well Lo and Behold, economists are now predicting it this will be worse than 2001 and expect a 9% downturn in the economy from now to the end of the year.

    I love saying I TOLD YOU SO...
    just love it.
    Bahahahahahaha

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIHb0r8OmwA&index=2&list=TL7g_2SsyEjYuTfGy4cmCcCNAMZ5GflAyg

    The new Empire borns!

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostrum of NostrolL

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    Sep 30th, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Don't rush, we can wait.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    @39 9%....fuck. Do you have any sources fire this figure. Would be helpful. Cheers

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”“”“”Argentines have forgotten this place long ago. Now you speak with their shadows.“”“”“”“

    now THAT, is a superb saying. I like it VERY much.

    Almost as good as the Russian: ”Its time to spit on its grave and walk away”.

    (About a subject flogged too death)

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stoker

    #25
    Is 444% enough?
    https://twitter.com/taos/status/516993368518561793/photo/1

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    I lived through an annual inflation rate of 25% (1974) - really bad years for the UK and the world.
    Oil crisis - price quadrupled overnight, stock market crash, Arab-Iraeli war, etc, etc.

    Just imagine what an Argentinian 50% rate would feel like! Pity the people.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Cristina is so concerned about Maximo's health, she has not been able to carry out retribution yet, but be afraid, be very afraid.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostrum of NostrolL

    More of the proud EUian army:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/30/world/europe/german-militarys-problems-prompt-talk-of-more-defense-spending.html?_r=0

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    The German military?

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostrum of NostrolL

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    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

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    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Now is the time for Patagonia to declare its intentions to hold a referendum for independence from Argentina,
    and other states should do the same,

    now is the time for Argentina to break up ,
    and start a new fresh honest decent democratic new nations,

    before the unmighty CFK drags you further into the gutter or into another conflict.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    The US Embassy just issued a travel alert for Argentina.
    I wonder what took so long.

    Strong intervention by BCRA on the fake peso rate
    I find that very very odd.
    It the last think I would do with limited funds.
    They'd be better off throwing the cash out the window.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostrum of NostrolL

    @53

    Keep dreaming

    @54

    Nobody cares

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    LOL! @54

    I wonder who is going to deal with the SIS threat in Argentina?

    @53 I think we will see more travel alerts. It is going to get ugly for a while.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    How can you argue about silliness when the Nation of Argentina has more troubling news about our dear leader's son.

    “Argentina's Máximo Carlos Kirchner has piled on so much weight that he has fractured both his ankles and remains in hospital after an operation, it was reported today.
    The son of the late President Néstor Kirchner and current President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner of the financially troubled nation of Argentina is estimated to have ballooned to 20 stone as a result of fine wining and dining - putting enormous pressure on his feet and legs.
    A source who has recently returned to Miami from Buenos Aires said Maximo, believed to be aged 37 is still in hospital under guard from his personal protection team.”

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostrum of NostrolL

    ISIS threat in Argentina? You have been drinking again. But that's expected of the British.

    The british slammed the Portuguese researcher that described the British in lapidary fashion.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/16/portugese-prof-joao-magueijo-english-disgusting-beasts_n_5827844.html

    Yet here is Sacha Baron Cohen CONFIRMING it:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/16/portugese-prof-joao-magueijo-english-disgusting-beasts_n_5827844.html

    Argentina should issue a TRAVEL warning to the UK.

    And the UK is an operating room compared to the USA. A travel ban there should have been done long ago.

    the USA is the dirtiest most filthy nation that has ever existed. Hygiene there is non-existent. Everyone has Lyme disease, West Nile virus, Chikunguya, and a bunch of other illnesses like mutant bacteria at hospital.

    Horrendous place to live.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @57 Can't you get medication? Why all the exaggerating?

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    bla bla bla,

    and the street's of Argentina are paved with gold,

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    USA dirty? Bahahahaha every single person that visits from SA remarks how clean and organized everything is.

    Elaine is right I think the very last of your meds have worn off. Its gonna be all down hill from here.

    LNG tankers lined up because BCRA has no U$ to pay for them
    Glorious.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    OAS to the rescue
    http://en.mercopress.com/2014/09/30/oas-to-the-rescue-of-obama-calls-on-country-members-to-accept-guantanamo-detainees

    OAS, Secretary General Jose Miguel Insulza “urged the United States to close the Guantanamo Bay facility without delay and arrange for the trial or release of the detainees” and called on member countries to consider receiving detainees in Guantanamo.

    And ISIS may well come to argentina sooner than you think..
    .

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Tranni boi, you've been gone a few days. It seems you estrogen treatments have run amok. It that what La campora is giving your for a script these days? Listening to you talk about the USA is like listening to someone talk about life on the closet planet in the closet star system. Get a life tranni boi and change your pads.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Better still, Argentins should ban all travel to the UK, starting with the party of and I use term loosely, “Law makers” who are shortly to plague our shores.

    No! No! No! It's all to much to wish for, one should not get ones hopes up, disappointment can be such a cruel thing!

    Ask Normans mother, she should know.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    57
    It is true, Britain and África and Oceania are siks!

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    wow! I just knew this was gonna get dirty, real fast! Last looked about 14 hrs ago....
    Already 60 comments!
    Other posters have already said much of what I would, so no need for repetition.
    Although I will just add one thing.
    Does Krass-tina & Co, have any idea how this is being recieved in the international community/ international financial world?
    She can only play to the domestic audience for so long, before reality bites her bum.
    Wow!
    * orders pizza, reclines in comfy chair in lovely London apartment*
    :-)))
    *ilsen likes fireworks, heheheheee!*

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Southern Islamic State (SIS) are already in Argentina.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    yb have you read that oil is crashing and OPEC is back to building it's supply chains. We're averaging 3.29 in eastern Mass. I read reports for that 2.75 mark this late winter/spring.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/crude-oil-price-crashes-gasoline-175028567.html

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 56 Chicureo

    I noticed Maximus Prattus had received a head transplant from his brother.

    Yes, he has a brother, not previously seen but a remarkable dopple-ganger for the idiot who runs North Korea.

    By the way everybody around him was crying you would have thought the baby was for the pot. And I don't mean a potty!

    Naughty boy!

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    As evidenced by the presence of Jihadist Juan aka TTT, posting from his (padded) sleeper cell in his mums basement.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    66. There is sharia courts in Britain, divisions of UK nationals in ISIS and you say Argentina ??? Common at least recognize that you are a total fuck up in that area.

    Not that some of you bits are very brave adressing and discussing these things with Toby the troll but dont even dare do so with me.

    Ohhh yepp

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Cretina, your Gringo Amigos acknowledge their repsonisibility for the actions of the esteemed Judge Griesa and hereby heartily endorse them. Now what?

    Oh, Cretina - you are so funny (looking)!

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    BUENOS AIRES–USA Today 30Sep14 President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner has said that her government was applying the “socialist Peronist formula: an abandoned company taken over by the working class,” in reference to last week’s occupation of restaurants belonging to the U.S. fast food giant, the McDonalds Corporation.

    “It’s the government new policy. Any company that is abandoned will be taken over by the working class with the support of the revolutionary Peronist government. Let it be known,” Cristina Fernández de Kirchner said during a cabinet meeting aired Monday on state television channel.

    The Argentinian government Saturday announced the “temporary” occupation of the McDonalds restaurants as well as the resumption of serving the public once “operational restrictions” are done away with.

    The McDonalds Corporation reported Monday from its U.S. headquarters in Chicago that it had left Argentina due to measures imposed by Fernández's government, economic uncertainty, employment laws and supply interruptions.

    President Cristina said that the closure by the multinational was due to the “economic war” on his government by certain players who want to end her mandate, and which, she says, had entered a new phase of “international financial war.”

    The U.S. Company said in a statement that for almost three years it was forced to sell over two-thirds of its products at prices determined by the government which led to a huge increase in the costs of production and steady operational losses.

    ChrisR, you're dulling my hooks.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    That's cos us Bits think that you some time talk sense and not total, utter, 100% shite, like Tobi!

    The Sharia courts are set up by Muslim communities themselves, they are voluntary, they carry no legal standing in UK law and neither do their judges, both court and judges are subject to UK law, not exempt from it.

    They carry as much authority as a court set up by the Jedi's, which if you research, you will find is also a recognised religion in the UK.

    I personally disagree with them, but it's the price you pay for religious tolerance and freedoms.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    57 Nostrum of NostrolL

    How much did your lords and masters pay you for posting that shite?

    Whats the going rate for a La Campora troll these days anyway?

    Lets hope your pay is inflation linked eh Tobi?

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @73

    Well said and clearly explained. I agree with you.

    @72.
    Argentina has entered so deeply into a world of fantasy and make believe, I am now unsure as to know when you are joking or serious.
    I once said, in jest, that it would not be to long before Cristina appointed a horse to the Senate.
    Yet now she seems to have gone far past such a sensible decision!

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @70. Hey, I didn't make it up. A group of Argentines responsible for the death threats to CFK claim they represent SIS - Southern Islamic State, a local jihadists group. Make of that what you will. Of course, the young Argentines could be lying.

    @72 LOL! Nac&Pop! Did you read that the 180 employees are looking for the Kirchner supporting owner, on account of not being paid for, like, ages?

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @39 Source please.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    73. I rather be a smart intolerant of Islam than a tolerant idiot.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #75 & 76

    In order to mislead the IMF, the famous “Big Mac” index was manipulated by the Argentine government which caused enormous losses to the McDonalds Corporation along with ridiculous employment obligations which has caused continuous losses for nearly the past decade.

    Apparently, the panicked Maximo urged his mother to stall the shutdown as it would mean an end to his unlimited free supply of Quarter Pounder combination deals and chocolate shakes.

    The most important lesson is that Cristina is bravely taking on the world. The English pirates, Spaniards, the Yankees, the IMF, the WTC, Mercosur, all the credit ranking agencies, and many more which includes multi national food companies, such as McDonalds

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Cristina is sending in the Infanteria due to the ever increasing violence in Hospital.
    Rut Ro

    Sounds to me like it is all going swimmingly.

    USA State basically told Argentina to stop whining and pay your debts.
    Bahahaha

    What a silly bunch of monkeys.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jay Bee

    “Cristina claims...”
    “Cristina blames...”
    “Cristina insists...”
    “Cristina demands...”
    “Cristina blasts...”
    “Cristina attacks...”

    LOL!

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Is it true that Fat Max is in hospital in MIAMI, Florida, USA?
    If so will he seized by Singer so they can melt the whale blubber for soap and sell the meat to Japan?
    Should pay off at least a quarter of the debt...

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #82 ILSEN
    He wasn't harpooned and is still alive munching clear eclairs in his hospital bed. The quality of the blubber and meat would be considered rancid at best.

    He seems to be recovering as the McDonald drive through autoMacs are back in operation.

    Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Why do the USA put up with CFK,
    Has she something to offer..

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aimee

    One question to the people from the island , uk or wherever you come from ..

    What opinions do you have about my country ?

    I think you see us as the laughing stock of the world...

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Frankly, I see it as a tragedy, but then the government interjects an element of bathos, and the whole sad story becomes to all appearance, a Zarzuela. Sad really.

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    USA........you are from Argentina aimee? Only you leadership and the people who believe her.

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aimee

    yes from argentina i am..

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Now she says the terrible gringos are coming to kill her. Not sure why they'd waste the money on the operation, since by all rights, she has to be their best weapon against the Argentine Republic.
    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/171087/%E2%80%98if-something-happens-to-me-look-north%E2%80%99-cristina-warns

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aureliano

    Good god i want out. I cannot wait for this government to be out in 1 year.
    It will take decades to put the country back on its feet.

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @90
    As the old Romans used to say, “May Good Fortune Attend.” I mean that sincerely. ;)

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    If, as the Argentina government says, US Federal Judge Griesa's contempt order is 'baseless, has no impact’ ... why do the members of the Argentina government spend hours and hours and a lot of energy on denying the “non-existent” impact?

    Whatever they say, the real world's reactions are always the strongest.

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/171056/gov%E2%80%99t-says-griesa-contempt-order-baseless-has-no-impact%E2%80%99

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 04:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @78

    There you go, yet another freedom, freedom of choice.

    Unfortunately for you and perhaps me, expressing such intolerance where I live, may get you in trouble with the law, it's classed as a racially motivated hate crimes.

    Most people here will tell you, that if there is one thing absolutely garaunteed, to get you incarcerated in our enviable prison system, it's that word racial.

    Steal, cheat and to some degree cause harm and you will get punished, but stick the word racial in front of it and you are going to prison, quicker than you can say Muslim Extremist!

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 04:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @85 Aimee

    Many of us have the utmost respect for the Argentine nation but your government is leading you all into a mire of despair. La Kretina and her cronies have mismanaged everything since the assumption of power by her husband. The blatant corruption seems to be accepted by those her put her into power but the blame is never hers - now the US is to blame for everything.

    However, it is reported that her popularity is declining rapidly - maybe the situation can be arrested before it goes further.

    With all respect.

    (Las Malvinas son territorio británico - nunca han pertenecido a Argentina)

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 06:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Aimee no one here really blames the people of Argentina. At most those who voted her/them in office, as we do in every nation that votes. You tell us.....will the people of Argentina stop this madness from Kirchner, or will they continue to vote in her cronies?

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    We don't blame the people,

    yet her devoted trolls come here and defend her,

    so some ... but not all.

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aureliano

    @91.
    Thank you, you too. :)
    This idiot and her followers makes me feel so ashamed to be argentine. God, i hate this place.

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • owl61

    @93,
    Off topic, but exactly what race is “muslim?”

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #98
    A faith, not race...
    The moderates can be quite decent folk, but the extreme believers deserve a special place in the afterlife...

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • owl61

    Define moderate.

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    One that kills you quickly versus sawing your head off with a serrated kitchen knife.

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • owl61

    Exactly. An extremist is simply a pious Muslim. A moderate is non-pious, non-practicing Muslim.

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    I just verified the incredibly low level of professional competency of the legal minds in rotting roadkill. The dark land has been lobbying and praying for the demise of Judge Griesa. Apparently they are totally unaware of the principle of stare decisis and think that the existence of the Judge's decisions are dependent on him remaining in his position. lol.

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • commonsparrow

    Well, I guess it is the U.S fault for Judge Griesa's decision. His decisions are in accordance with the laws of the U.S. He is a U.S. judge, and we have 3 branches of government. Argentina should read up on the U.S. court system before signing contracts to be under U.S. law.

    Oct 01st, 2014 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Calling the US government responsible is like a criminal in a court saying.....if I get sentenced to prison, it's the police's fault for arresting me.

    Oct 02nd, 2014 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • psql

    Yes, I think crows fit the bill very nicely...

    Oct 02nd, 2014 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    If only we were responsible for his ruling I would be in glory. But, politicians do not have strings on judges like in Argentina.

    Oct 02nd, 2014 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aimee

    Captain Poppy thanks for the answer and Gordo thanks too

    Do you think this is going to end ? No this is just the beggining , her cronnies are going to participate the next election so perhaps they will win , it is likely that we would be under kirchner role again ... she wants to be the second rate of eva peron perhaps you know her ..

    Oct 03rd, 2014 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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