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BBC2 To Gear claims “they threw us out of Argentina for the political capital”
BBC2’s Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson has said his crew did nothing wrong and affirmed “someone could have been killed”, following incidents in which a group of people in Tierra del Fuego threw stones at their cars, thinking the license plates they used for filming were directly alluding to the Falklands/Malvinas War. Read full article
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Oct 06th, 2014 - 07:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina - “We are peaceful, and we have the torches and pitchforks to prove it!”
Still I suppose it is possible that TG was innocent, is they wanted to make waves they would not be so subtle as just using three obscure license plates.
The programme should be aired and well edited to show the world what bitter twisted nation Argentina really is
Oct 06th, 2014 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0(Quote) “ Top Gear has also featured its fair share of controversy since the show’s debut in 1977 ”
Oct 06th, 2014 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Top Gear in the 70's and 80's was about as controversial as warm tea .
An episode from 1983 :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooI-EQIDouA
Oh shit , have just realised , 1983 is very similar to 1982 , I hope this doesn't cause offence to some 20 yr old “ war veteran ” !
Theatre. More nonsense.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pay you debts.
Whether it was totally orchestrated, totally innocent or somewhere in between, there is something you can be sure of. It will go to air, it will be a ratings winner, it will make Clarkson richer than he already is and Argentina will come out of it looking bad.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0When the programme is broadcast Clarkson will be so rich he might be able to buy Argentina at the rate its going. So watch it...
Oct 06th, 2014 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0This could be the start of a whole new series,
Oct 06th, 2014 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0with Clarkson going to the States driving a teabag, across China on a pair of chopsticks, the Russia wearing Trident teashirts, to Germany blaring 'the 633 Squadron' ... oh, the list just goes on and on!
But in the end everybody ends up a parody of their former self, and viewers just get embarrassed.
In all 170 countries where it's broadcast.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Someone in Argentina should have done their homework, or maybe they did and genuinely believe, “The world is on our side.”
Even if 10% support their actions that's still 153 countries that are going to form a poor opinion of them. That's 153 sources of tourists and what do tourists bring? DOLLARS And what do dollars bring? JOBS!!!!!!
Well done Argentina, clever, very clever.
I cannot wait to see this episode of TG!!!!!
Oct 06th, 2014 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just think if Clarkson had a 984 plate it would be uncanny.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is it with 1982 and Argentina are they still upset they never won the world cup in spain
Not the end of Clarkson, but, he'll likely be embroiled in some faux pas in the not too distant future, this will be added to the list of charges and he'll quietly be written/faded out.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Public relations disaster for Argentina.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ratings win for Top Gear.
@11 Vestige
Oct 06th, 2014 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Clarkson is renowned for p!ssing people off. That is why do many people like him.
So all in all he'll still be going strong and well remembered long after Argentina has disappeared up its own hoop.
All those people in all of those countries, we could be talking about billions of people here, and all of them get to see the true face of Argentina. A fascist, lawless place, with government sponsored thuggery.
That'll sure bring in the tourists and their dollars...not.
Face it, you guys started a war. You then lost the war and were completely humiliated on the international stage. It's time to grow up and get over it.
But you can't because the memory of your humiliation burns deep, and you keep reliving it over and over and over. And until you learn to heal the wounds you'll always be a backwards country, with a backwards looking mentality, and continue to regress towards oblivion.
Also for future reference - you can't use any plates between 833-999 and 000-014 as these might refer to any of the years in which the Falklands have been lived on by the bad old Brits. In fact, I'd give all the other numbers a miss in case they remind the Argentinians that didn't have sovereignty any of those years either.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina how low can you get, blame the rest of the world for your misfortunes one of the richest country in the world with some of the stupid people in the world what a combination you do not deserve you geography.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Omg
Oct 06th, 2014 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't write only only 18 characters on here or it will leave 1982 left and it would upset The Kid veterans
http://www.ambito.com/diario/noticia.asp?id=761489
Oct 06th, 2014 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The timing couldn't be better for Argentina, first a armed thug attacking a tourist and now a stoning.
If I was a planning a visit I'd probably be changing my flights right about now.
Stupid stupid people
I think the stoning of the Top Gear infidels indicates the Law that the Argentinians wish to live under.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We should know as soon as they start sawing people's heads off with blunt Bowies.
(Good job Clarkson got out, I know a lot of people who would put him first in the queue.)
I still think the British Broadcasting Cunts will not air it.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Too much like trouble.
We will see what, if anything, turns up in March '15.
At bet it will be so watered down as to be a farce.
this imbecile clarkson has a sad record of provocations and racist insults.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this fatty, potbellied guy with brown teeth should look at himself in the mirror before making jokes with “slopes”, “niggers”, mexicans and stuff.
20.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But he runs one of the most popular shows on earth.... Who the hell knows you??
What do you want more boring politically correct crap??
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Oct 06th, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pablito : Jeremy Clarkson is worth U$S50M .
Oct 06th, 2014 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He probably pays other people to look in the mirror for him .
http://www.spearswms.com/news/jeremy-clarkson-net-worth-4169578#.VDKeJWddVBY
Ever watch the programme when they went to Chile & Bolivia ?
They donated the vehicles to local causes and also tourism went up in the region because millions watch his programme worldwide .
In Ushuaia the cars will be stolen by the governor and tourists will cancel their trips .
I honestly believe that the BBC forgot that they were dealing with children.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This sort of thing happens in the third-world.
Just trying to think of all the countries Top Gear has visited in their 139 episodes to date. The answer is lots, and, they have upset quite a few countries along the way. But this whole thing has been engineered by the RGs for sure. Thats the trouble of saying it how it is. It certainly energised all Gollums trolls and syncophants. The RG government never misses a chance for yet another big of whingeing.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20. Poor child. You really don't understand very much, do you? Brits frequently make jokes about each other. It's laughed off. But then we've had 2,000 years. Which should give a fair idea of 'the answer'. People who whinge about “provocations and racist insults” are basically inadequate. Look at a simple example. Argieland is constantly provoking the Falkland Islands and the United Kingdom. In various ways, numbers of argies constantly use racist insults against Falkland Islanders and Britons. For instance, it is common courtesy to call countries, cities and towns by the name bestowed by the inhabitants. Therefore, every time some argie calls the Falkland Islands by that 'Malvinas' name, it's a provocation. When 'Think' refers to the 'English' instead of the British, it's a provocative and racist insult. Why don't you criticise that?
Oct 06th, 2014 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22. How erudite. But, as others have said, how nice that millions of people all around the world will be able to see how argie behaviour matches CFK's words. Let's see now, 32 years since a war that argieland started and lost. And how were Brits and Germans getting on in 1977? I think argieland's chances of the UK sitting down to negotiate anything are well into the minus numbers. Maybe someone will decide to drop paving slabs on Alicia's transport!
Not quite the mass riot some are making it out to have been.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0London a couple years back, now THAT was a mass riot.
Clarkson deserves to get his ass whooped and then some.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 029 Jonaz
Oct 06th, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Clarkson deserves to get his ass whooped and then some'.
You still don't realise what's happened do you. You poor dumb idiot.
Clarkson is about to get richer and Argentina is about to look worse. Jeremy will be sure wishing he never crossed you guys.
LOL
@29 : Who by ? The Foreign Office , The BBC ? The British people ?
Oct 06th, 2014 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's the victim in all this ,they had taken the number plates off the first day of the trip , but a lot of Malvinista hot heads decided they liked the 200 against 1 odds so they attacked them for no reason at all over a war that happened before you were born .
The Top Gear Christmas Special is going to be viewed in 135 countries and make Argentines look like savages , still smarting over a military defeat 32 YEARS AGO .
It's not the image the country needs .
To be fair, Clarkson is a luke warm racist prick. He exemplifies everything that it wrong with “old white men”. HE used to be funny...ish, and now he is just irritating. I'm with Steve Coogan on this one:
Oct 06th, 2014 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2011/feb/05/top-gear-offensive-steve-coogan
And please don't tell me that the number plate was coincidental, don't be so naïve. Yes they started it, yes some people cheered for it but remember, people died. Has anyone on this board had a relative who died of lung cancer and smoked? If so, I find that fcuking hilarious.
Hey Santiago Vera, did you ask Jose for the grand or did he just ask you to take it?
Oct 06th, 2014 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 028
Oct 06th, 2014 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You'll be saying next that they we caused by an Argentine driving a Porsche.
This is perfect....
Oct 06th, 2014 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jeremy Clarkson and Top Gear are world famous, they have a massive world-wide audience. This is a fantastic opportunity.
Apparently, Clarksons crew had their lives threatened because of the malvinas myth. The lies that certain Argentine cretins have had bottled fed for generations.
What a wonderful opportunity for the BBC to sanction a documentry, presented by Clarkson, May and Hammond...
Falklands...THE TRUTH
Part 1: Inheritance...
Argentine lie: The islands were inherited from Spain
Truth: Not one single Spaniard who ever lived on the islands became Argentine, in fact they fought Argentina, and had left the islands under orders from Spain years before Argentina existed.
Part 2: Usurption
Argentine lie: The islands were usurped and an Argentine population/authority was eviced in 1833
The British claim predates back to 1690 and the only Argentines ever evicted were the crew of the Sarandi whod been on the islands for 6 weeks and had already murdered their Captain and raped his wife.
Part 3: Geography
Argentine Lie: The islands are part of Patagonia and therefore constitue a disruption of Argentinas territorial integrity.
Truth: Patagonia only became part of Argentina in 1880 due to Argentinas own colonial genocidal expansionism.
If this was presented in the correct way, it could accurately depict Argentinas govenment as lying, corrupt morons, deceiving their own people for political capital...and would be hilarious...FUCKING HILARIOUS.
I may write to mr Clarkson with my suggestion..LOL
strange.....the argentines state hired thugs got their knickers in a twist over a registration plate ending in FKL which they say references The Falklands thus is unwittingly recognizing the islands as The Falklands and not as the mythical......MLV that they prat on about.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or..... they can back peddle and deny that the Sponsored ASSAULT was in reference to The Falklands plate and admit that they are just lawless inbreds with a hatred of free journalism and im talking about the argentine (mis)government...
i also have a car reg CFK SUX1 ...... pretty innocent
With all this negative publicity, the Hotel business is going to suffer. So!
Oct 06th, 2014 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kirchner announces she is going into the ship building business, much more profitable.
(32) Welshy
Oct 06th, 2014 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I like your style...
Are you sure you are a lawyer?
;-)
Pirate Love #36
Oct 06th, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I say, Pirate old bean, CFK SUX1 - this is very upper claass language;
yah, I think the Queen might say it this way also.”
Let’s hope that holiday makers choose a different destination next year,
Oct 06th, 2014 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently the place is going down hill fast,
And no coffee, all you can smell is desperation..
Still,
Back to southend then..lol
Wouldn't be surprised if Top Gear does a trip to the Falklands to bridge the rest of the episode, or a future one, probably with Union Jack painted cars.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentinian government aren't used to the power of a free press with a global audience, and Top gear have a massive microphone to wave around. Add in that scandal helps with the ratings, especially where the scandal isn't seen as their fault, and they have every reason to use it.
Can you imaging the re-action of CFK seeing Top Gear in full British regalia in the Falkland's,
Oct 06th, 2014 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she would probably commit hari kari...lol
@32 “He exemplifies everything that it wrong with “old white men””.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0True.
BBC2 To Gear claims “they threw us out of Argentina for the political capital”
Oct 06th, 2014 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really?? Do you think?
Nothing happens in TDC that does not have La Campora looking on. Them and their rent-a-mob have their names splashed all over this little incident.
Not to worry, as previously pointed out, they can do nothing against “the free press” and they would be mad to try and take on Clarkson... here is one grumpy old white man with a very BIG microphone.
My only regret about the whole thing? Pity “The Stig” wasn't there.
Some say that he can swim 25 length underwater on 1 lung full of air aaannnnddd that he has webbed buttocks.
All we know is he's called The Stig and can fry a La Campora troll to death at 15 metres with his laser eyes!!!
@Welsh Wizard
Oct 06th, 2014 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Has anyone on this board had a relative who died of lung cancer and smoked? If so, I find that fcuking hilarious.”
I suppose looking back it was hilarious - thanks for the novel perspective.
All those government officials and their goons should be given one bullet and one gun each.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then they can all shoot themselves in the other foot.
@ 45 I know, just like when my dad died of something he could have prevented. Laugh a minute. As for all thr brits out there up in arms about this, I'm sure if a few Afghas started driving around Wooton Bassett making pretty obvious reference to the Afghan war and our dead “Heroes” (why we call them that i have no idea) you'd just laugh it off. After all, we invaded their country so they would be perfectly justified.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38 yes, but not to be for much longer :-)
Are people 'up in arms'?
Oct 06th, 2014 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The number plate was removed a long time before they arrived, invited, in TDF. I guess Fat Max has to give his army something to burn and shout about from time to time. Otherwise they may question what the heck they are for.
I give Welsh Wizard points for trying.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Deducted for a futile attempt at comparison.
(47) Welsh Wizard
Oct 06th, 2014 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
”Why we call them (our dead soldiers) that (heroes), I have no idea.“
I say...:
In my humble opinion...
All human societies love human sacrifice...
The ”Volunteers“ need some encouragement though...
What better than to call them cannon fodder for ”Heroes”?
Just 'Think' of the fun Clarkson can have....
Oct 06th, 2014 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Daft RG Falklands claims picked apart on TV beamed to 135 countries.
Images of CFK having a rant (zoom in on wrinkles and turkey neck)
Fat Max exposed and compared to Kim Jong Un
Sinking RG Navy
Impounded Liberturd
CFK scared to take Tango One to US or Europe - why?
Pictures of RG team with mythical Malvinas poster
RG so called athlete desecrating war memorial
Falklands minefields
Stinking Villa Miserias exposed
Election bribery
And so on...
A rich vien exposè of RG shortcomings and crimes against humanity transmitted to about a billion people. Makes Gollums paltry propaganda efforts and meaningless declarations of support look pretty insignificant.
Own goal, own goal, Britain's hand of God :-)))
47
Oct 06th, 2014 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That the most crass statement I have ever read. Show some respect for bereaved!
The Rgs never miss the chance to embarrass themselves on the Int'l stage. Reality always seems to interfere with their belief in the good and righteous people of The Argentine.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On the few occasions where they're invited to Int'l events I think most attendees just roll their eyes and try to avoid them.
That crazy old hag has taken Chavez's place. As the noose gets tighter the crazier they're getting.
And everyone is finally noticing.
jeremy clarkson and his followers fled, escorted and PROTECTED by the Tierra del Fuego police to the border and into chile.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The action of our citizens y veteranos de Malvinas was so successful that Clarkson and his followers had to quickly abandon their cars in Tolhuin (IMAGINE YOU, THESE CARS ARE NOW IN OUR POWER), as appropriate and in accordance with international law, CARS WILL BE RETURNED TO CLARKSON (THE SAME LAWS AS YOU PERMANENTLY SAY THAT WE DO NOT MEET).
Clarkson, after a month to enjoy and explore the Patagonia Argentina , was detected by photos and the plates of cars were published. Aware of the presence of Clarkson, the residents of the Town of TOLHUIN with Veteranos de Malvinas , intercepted the convoy.
The Clarkson final task was to make a symbolic takeover of Cerro Castor displaying English and UK flags. This did not occur
Neighbors and veteranos de Malvinas defended our homeland from aggression of Clarkson, expelling them from Argentina.
THE GOVERNMENT OF CRISTINA (WHO YOU LOVE AND ADORE , BY THE ABOVE COMMENTS) ALLOWED CLARKSON ENTRY TO ARGENTINA AND THE LOCAL POLICE PRESERVED AT ALL TIMES AND TOOK CARE OF PHYSICAL INTEGRITY OF CLARKSON.
SUMMARY: WAS THE NEIGHBORS AND VETERANOS DE MALVINAS WHO EXPELLED CLARKSON , NOT CRISTINA. AND IS IN OUR PEOPLE, WHERE IS THE GREATNESS AND THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY (NOT IN CRISTINA OR ANY POLITIC)
TODAY IN ARGENTINA, CELEBRATE THE ACTION OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND VETERANOS DE MALVINAS WITH PRIDE, KNOWING THAT UNITED CAN TO OVERCOME THE MOST POWERFUL EMPIRE AND ANY EXTERNAL THREAT.
VIVA LA PATRIA, VIVA ARGENTINA, VIVA TIERRA DEL FUEGO , ISLAS MALVINAS, ANTARTIDA E ISLAS DEL ATLANTICO SUR.
MALVINAS, NUESTRO ORGULLO NACIONAL, FUERON, SON Y SERAN ARGENTINAS.
MY WORDS ARE NO PROPAGANDA OR HAVE POLITICAL INTENT NOR INTENDED TO SUPPORT OR ANY POLITICAL ARGENTINE GOVERNMENT (NATIONAL, PROVINCIAL OR MUNICIPAL).
MY WORDS REFLECTING THE DEEPEST FEELING OF BEING ARGENTINE.
I have no idea whether Clarkson somehow contrived to have this particular number plate attached to his car.It wouldn't surprise me either way- after all he's got plenty of form when it comes to mocking the locals whither he goest. He IS sexist,racist and the kind of person of person I would find it difficult to spend more 30 mins with without wanting to deck him. And yet...he still makes me laugh, he writes about cars in an original,genuinely interesting way and has taken an unlikely concept and made it work. In any case nothing excuses the aggression of the locals.Treating a Lotus Esprit- one of the of the sexiest cars ever made-like that, is just plain wrong.
Oct 06th, 2014 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 054 Hernan
Oct 06th, 2014 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 010 points for originality and sincerity; I respect you for your heartfelt words. Too bad Argentina will look so bad when the show gets screened and too bad your brave Malvinas veterans will look to be in their twenties.
For the record I am not a big Top Gear or Clarkson fan but I still think he played your poor pawns like puppets on strings. All for ratings and money. At least he had a cause I guess. Unlike your dumb and manipulated rent-a-crowd.
54
Oct 07th, 2014 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just listen to yourself. You make it sound like you fought off an armed invasion, instead of attacking a group of unarmed, undefended luvvies!
Aggression. What aggression?
These cars are in our possession! Congratulation, you captured three, “Three sports cars!”
Tell you what, keep them and put them on display in a museum, trophies of how your courageous veterans overcame the most powerful empire and external threat. Something they failed spectacularly to do in 1982.
No! Yourbwords reflect why you lot need all those phsychiatrict professionals, your completely Barking!!!!!
@52 in this case I am the bereaved.
Oct 07th, 2014 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0@49 The real point is that Clarkson did this deliberately. He knows hire much feeling this kind of thing evokes in argentina (after all, its nor like we haven't seen mobs in london recently) he knew this but still decided to do it. Yes, the reactionwas
@54 Hernan : Don't forget to burn your old Beatles records , will you ?
Oct 07th, 2014 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0And maybe stamp on a picture of the Queen and burn a british flag .....
God , some of you are so childish .
Where's your evidence that Clarkson did this deliberately?
Oct 07th, 2014 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your expressing opinion based on Clarksons previous behaviour, which as far as I can see is mainly inappropriate, spontaneous or adlibbed comments and not pre planned stunts.
LOL! Apparently the Argentines ordered the Chileans not to allow the crew to cross into Chile. The Chilean border guards told the Argentines to fuck off.
Oct 07th, 2014 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0@60 RC
Oct 07th, 2014 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0The 'American Folly' was indeed pre-planned. It's going back a few years, but they adorned their cars, variously, with slogans like...man-love rules OK, Hilary for President, NASCAR sucks & country music is crap. Just before crossing into Alabama border. The locals weren't amused and also pelted them with rocks.
You can see why this might inspire cynicism on the part of some as to Clarkson et al's motives.
@62
Oct 07th, 2014 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0True, I did say mainly. Your example is self evident of what their intent was, they would be hard pressed denying that it wasn't deliberate.
However a 3“ x 18” metal registration plate is hardly the same as 3ft high pink lettering.
@63
Oct 07th, 2014 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Also true, but no less effective for all that.
#54 a month took you long enough to find a convoy of luvvies staying at 5 star hotels with the permission of the government.
Oct 07th, 2014 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unlike the SAS who roamed about freely in 1982
@60 - and the bridge slightly wonky, it just so happens that that slope is a derogatory term and it is total coincidence that there was someone walking on the bridge who was a native of the country to which that term had been previously applied by racist people.
Oct 07th, 2014 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, of course I can't prove this but trying to play devil's advocate which whether it was a conincidence or not is a little silly. Clarkson has a reputation for this sort of thing and has become more reactionary and more...well..racist in his old age. This is the demographic he is pandering to, people who find racist jokes funny.
My real issue is that he probably knew that if things flared up then there would be issues and that ther was a possibility that the upshot of those issues could be violence towards him, or more importantly, the team of people with him. However, taking this into account, he still did it and then starts wailing about how his team were in real danger for their lives, a danger that he helped to produce. Yet he still left them and still decided that he would do something that may incite violence in the first place. I don't agree with the Argentinean position here either but I think people should strip away to emotion and look at Clarkson for what he really is. Comfortably racist enough to make it OK. After all, the bridge was sloping...so I'm not sure what these darkies are complaining about.
Yankeeboy - you should indeed be cancelling your tickets - a week ago your Govt issued a trave; warning to Argentina for all US passport holders - essential trips only.
Oct 07th, 2014 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Herman- Malvinas Veterans? - most were in their 20s and 30s - can you
Agree, no doubt Clarksons is racist, wittingly or unwittingly, matters not.
Oct 07th, 2014 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can't see this being a deliberate attempt to provoke this kind of reaction.
I agree with your point, that if Clarkson or whoever was responsible for the production, foresaw the result and still went ahead with their actions, then they bear some of the responsibility for what subsequently took place.
I'll say this,nthough, if I was a member of that team and this turned out to be the case, then the BBC would now have a bloody great lawsuit on their hands for knowingly endangering my life or limb.
Sounds like they will air the show, sounds like it's going to backfire on Argentina, like everything else they do does. I bet it's the most anticipated show they have ever done, watched by millions around the world, all getting a flavour of how Argentine treats visitors to their country and how backward a nation they have become.
Oct 07th, 2014 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0@20 Paul
Oct 07th, 2014 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0“this imbecile clarkson has a sad record of provocations and racist insults.
this fatty, potbellied guy with brown teeth should look at himself in the mirror before making jokes with “slopes”, “niggers”, mexicans and stuff.”
The hipocrasy of this statement is brilliant.
Argentina considers bid for Oympic Games including Patagonia for Winter Oympics, not making it up honest, honest I'm not, on my life, it's true really.
Oct 07th, 2014 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@72
Oct 07th, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After the debacle Brazil is sure to be, I doubt they will go anywhere near South America again.
Apparently the argentine official phoned his opposite number on the Chilean side of the border, demanding the Chileans stop them and return them so they could be arrested,
Oct 07th, 2014 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Chilean border officer told his argentine counter part to get lost, and to stop telling the Chileans what to do, swear words were heard,
Was this true or not,
Well the Chilean guards let them across the border and the Argies were very upset and frustrated, what do you think.
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CLARKSON STATEMENTS TO A BRITISH JOURNAL:
Oct 07th, 2014 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“After they crossed a river into Chile, they spoke to the local official who said his opposite number in Argentina called him and told him to chuck our guys out, back into Argentina“.
”“Their plan was then to arrest the crew for entering the country illegally.”
”In true modest fashion, he continued: “Luckily for us, we’re really popular in Chile and they love the British so the official refused. In fact his direct quote was, ‘I told them, fuck you!’”
MR. CLARKSON LYING: the Argentina police protected him and escorted to the border with Chile. The officials of tierra del fuego asked him to abandon the country FOR YOUR SAFETY AND NOT CREATE MORE resentment WITH LOCAL CIVILIAN POPULATION.
THE MALVINAS WAR AND THE BRITISH OCCUPATION IN 1833 DAILY IS LIVED IN ARGENTINA AS A DEEP WOUND THAT IS NOT CURING YET.
IF THEY WANTED TO ARREST, THEY HAVE DONE IMMEDIATELY, PUTTING A BARRIER ON THE BORDER.
CLARKSON ENJOY ALMOST A MONTH IN PATAGONIA, FREELY RIDE WITH THEIR CARS AND MANY ARGENTINES TOOK PHOTOS WITH THEM (THE CAR RACING IS THE SECOND MOST POPULAR SPORT IN ARGENTINA), AT ANY TIME, ANY AUTHORITY POLITICAL OR THE POLICE ASKED FOR ANY EXPLANATIONS.
CLARKSON MENTION “FUCK THEM” TO US ..... I TELL YOU “HAVE A LONG AND HEALTHY LIFE AND KEEP YOUR SUCCESS IN TELEVISION FOR MANY YEARS”
Hernán
Oct 07th, 2014 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sorry but your country no longer controls this story.
Top Gear will spin this as they like. They will say what they want.
The world will hear the Clarkson and Top Gear version and not the Argentine version.
Finally you are getting a glimpse of the idiocy of your government.
You can write all you want and USE AS MANY CAPS AS YOU WANT but no one is listening to your side any longer.
Hernan and Nino-puto Pablo
Oct 07th, 2014 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...and to conclude his statement, Clarkson said, “The Chilean official went on say in closing, the Government and People of Chilé, support the legal claims of the Falkland Islanders to negotiate with Argentina, or not, as they wish. We support their rightful sovereignty over the Falklands and the continued development of their own Fishing, and Oil & Gas Resources.”
That's the message getting out, that's what the World will see on TV - sorry, your message was lost amidst the din of your circus show.
TROLLS - sucks to be you!
Clarkson won´t visit Argentina FOR A LOOOOOONG TIME!!
Oct 07th, 2014 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0his trousers are still at the dry cleaners!!
RG's fkucked up royally here like.
Oct 08th, 2014 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like the whole world are going to get to see first hand what a bunch of fuds are occupying that region of SA...........
Roll on TG - Get it on air...
toy
Oct 08th, 2014 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0“...and to conclude his statement, Clarkson said, “blablabla.”
it seems the opinion of the fatty guy is very important for you, no?
surely the boludón is your gurú, lol.
and what the f*ck is chilé?
it is chile, you naboletti.
heisenberg
”Treating a Lotus Esprit- one of the of the sexiest cars ever made-like that, is just plain wrong.”
totally agree. those idiots should be jailed for damaging a car like that.
This is the truth of the facts:
Oct 08th, 2014 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jeremy-clarkson-might-have-broken-licence-plate-laws-on-top-gears-argentine-misadventure-9778399.html
What can you expect from these bloodsucking leeches world .. !! Rather than lying, mockery and looting .. They are a plague worldwide .. They should be exterminated like rats are filthy ..
@74 Hernan
Oct 08th, 2014 - 02:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0”THE MALVINAS WAR AND THE BRITISH OCCUPATION OF 1833 DAILY IS LIVED IN ARGENTINA AS A DEEP WOUND THAT IS NOT HEALING YET''.
Clearly this is true. It's just as clear that you are in love with your own pain and the responsibility for perpetuating it lies in your hearts - not with a certain oafish British television personality.
@80
Oct 08th, 2014 - 07:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0British law applies in Argentina does It?
Plonker.
In the news today :
Oct 08th, 2014 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine Govt have announced that all teams entering the next Dakkar Rally must provide their number plates in advance for official approval to ensure no-one in Argentina is offended by them .
Furthermore , all cars entering Argentina overland will be subject to the same scrutiny .
20 paulcedron “.... before making jokes with “slopes”, “niggers”, mexicans and stuff.”
Oct 08th, 2014 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now he can add argentines to the list!
@74
Oct 08th, 2014 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0”THE MALVINAS WAR AND THE BRITISH OCCUPATION OF 1833 DAILY IS LIVED IN ARGENTINA AS A DEEP WOUND THAT IS NOT HEALING YET''
Once again, the Malvinas lie is told. The recovery of the islands in 1833 was the end of an occupation, not the beginning of one.
The “deep wound” will only heal when you acknowledge that fact and stop lying to make fake claims towards the Falklands.
On the subject of Clarkson: Previously, we've had Argentina film an athlete for the Olympics walking over a war memorial in the Falklands, while the advert makes the false claim that he's training on Argentinian soil. There are no claims he was assaulted or abused in any way by the legitimate inhabitants of the Falklands.
Also, we had the Argentinian football team in the World Cup unfurl a banner repeating the Malvinas Lie. They were not attacked, but rightly punished by FIFA for their political grandstanding.
Now Clarkson drives a car through Argentina with a license plate that allegedly references the British recovery of the Falklands from an illegally occupying power. Argentinians respond with violence and (allegedly) attempting to arrest them under false pretences.
There's no justification for this at all. Like the Falklands, their actions forfeit them the moral high ground, unless an apology is made and the perpetrators fo this violence brought to justice.
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Oct 08th, 2014 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 086 Nino
Oct 08th, 2014 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As usual, just schoolboy personal insults, because the Nino can't string together two thoughts to make a coherent argument.
he is very lonely that's why he comes on here, if only to insult, its the only way he gets people to talk to him..
Oct 08th, 2014 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*84 Here is the typical Anglo racist FOR ALL TO SEE!! WELL DONE MY BOY!!
Oct 08th, 2014 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and with the nick DOWNUNDER. lol lol lol. just as I have said in my last posts..A true white australian anglo and his racist tongue.....dear me!!!
I have just bean reading a bit more about what happened and i am pissing myself laughing over this cortical
Oct 08th, 2014 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2783048/Argentina-told-Chilean-officials-close-route-country-stop-Top-Gear-crew-escaping-refused.html
The fact that the Argentina police wanted the chile border guards to send the crew back so they could arrest them for illegal entry because the number plates are being viewed as a crime, The chile reply to the request was “ go F**k yourself ”
As more comes out it just gets even better, just remember folks just don't mention the war or anything else as it upsets the locals
“Now he can add argentines to the list!”
Oct 08th, 2014 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no, now he can add himself to that list.
another backfire for the fatty boludo.
btw, if the greasy guy earns so many money with that sh*tty show you ignorants love so much, why the f*ck he does not visit a dentist?
these britons and their teeth...lol
http://www.tumblr.com/search/the+big+book+of+british+smiles#
#91
Oct 08th, 2014 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really are an idiot. Do you think you're clever perpetuating a cultural stereotype about British teeth, which isn't even true?
Have a look at this Europe wide report:
http://www.oralhealthplatform.eu/state-oral-health-europe
This clearly demonstrates that British oral/dental health out performs most other countries in Europe let alone the world.
Racist, xenophobic idiot.
racist and xenophobic?
Oct 08th, 2014 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol
for telling you the truth about your teeth?
you don´t know what racist and xenophobic mean, do you?
http://www.handsomefrank.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/TEETH2scaled-1.jpg
#93
Oct 08th, 2014 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't know what the fucking truth is. You responded to my link to an actual thoroughly researched report by an independent organisation destroying your pathetic stereotype fantasy with what I guess is some kind of crude image.
If he know so much abt teeth, perhaps one should look at his own rotting teeth..
Oct 08th, 2014 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@93
Oct 09th, 2014 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0What you belive to be the truth and what is actually the truth are generally not the same thing, you just make unsubstantiated statements purely for the purpose if insulting others without any real facts. Since you make sweeping statements about outdated stereotypes then “Racist, xenophobic idiot.” is fairly fitting.
89 aussiesunshinee
Oct 09th, 2014 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0“..A true white australian anglo and his racist tongue.....dear me!!!”
Dear me indeed. A poster who tries to impersonate an Aussie by giving him/herself the nick “aussiesunshinee” yet then claims to come from Spain. But being geographically confused pales into insignificance when one considers the odious nature of your utterances. An inarticulate poster who is incapable of putting forward a cogent argument, so you resort, in every one of your posts, to puerile, racist attacks against the British, the Falkland Islanders, Aussies and anybody else you are frightened of.
Playing the racist card is the last refuge of inarticulate and is about all you are capable of. Judging by the content of your posts – you know all about racism.
The fact is that the behaviour of the Argentine government and the stone throwing mob that attacked the BBC crew is a disgrace, unsurprising given their track record but still a disgrace. Once again they have mad fools of themselves in front of the entire world.
Since you claim to be an Aussie you will, no doubt, be familiar with the expression “walk like a duck and quack like a duck, then you are a duck!” Well that description fits Argentina to a tee; their aggressive destructive behaviour betrays a chronic loser mentality and warrants contempt and derision.
Argiedarkness, a person who doesn’t know what hemisphere he is in, who uses racist hateful commentary as a as substitute for rational argument and who is an apologist for fascists everywhere. Your posts are typical of the puerile racist diatribes that we have come to expect from the argentine supporting trolls that inhabit this blog.
I don’t know if you are paid on commission or flat rate, but as an agent of propaganda you are a waste of space.
Sunshine is just another unemployed Spaniard that couldn't make it in Australia. He pines for what he had here.
Oct 09th, 2014 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 098 Anglotino#
Oct 09th, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Our gain, there loss!
Wouldnt loose time commenting on this person, not even a fraction of a second.
Oct 09th, 2014 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just say, that I find the BBC, every day more partial and every day loosing more its prestige, been as it is state tv.
well, just all these international channels, you have to watch them with more detail, what is the propaganda they want to spread, that is convenient to them, only one face of situations. Remember watching cnn when dilma talking, and in a part where she was saying sth about changing sth, the cnn said no audio ,no audio. So you see, what you dont like it doesnt appear in your “free” press. You dont have the free press you are been told you have. The same when the russian ambassador talk, you dont put all on tv or in the press.
100 Malen
Oct 09th, 2014 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Russian and Spanish?
Could it be that the audience watching, does not speak those languages?
Don't be a putz.
I think all Brits know this, Malen.
Oct 09th, 2014 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BBC is the state medium of the United Kingdom.
We didn't realise how much control the Government exercised over us until it virtually erased the fact that over 1 million Brits travelled to London to protest Blair's war in Iraq.
If RGs own the Malvinass why do they get upset by FKL? The sad people now want to arrest Top Gear for using an unauthorized number plate. As no action taken against the grand-children of the veterans, their spat must have been authorized. Dumb asses.
Oct 09th, 2014 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 102 GeoffWard2
Oct 09th, 2014 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The organizers for the protest against banning hunting with dogs had a recognised worldwide company counting heads the number of protesters using TV camera technology.
The total was in excess of 2 M and I was one of 40 people from my target shooting club which went down and protested. It was a sight to behold and no trouble whatsoever because the police did the job right and cornered the loonies in a kettle: there were only a thousand or two who turned up.
When the police announced the numbers (taken from their own TV setups) they claimed under 900.000.
Fix or what? The Police Superintendent who came with us (a club member) was disgusted.
You also have too look arg state tv with detail (almost all people thinking like the gov thinks) or change channel.
Oct 09th, 2014 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the BBC, I remember was made a debate program about monarchy in Australia. People had to vote previous and after the debate. So ridiculous, specially the arguments of UK, were just all based in well you would loose royalty “chismes”, all were are a kind of joke, not real arguments, and who won?? obviously the ones that prefers monarchy in Australia. And cutting conversations abruptally to persons when talking about UK selling arms to another country. The journalist cut and changed subject and did as if nothing happened.
@105 Malen
Oct 10th, 2014 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0No one is forced to watch the BBC.
I just want to provide a list of local (Neuquén Province) number plates that should be banned by the national government:
Oct 10th, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ARS 682 (This obviously means Argentine surrender June 1982) This number plate is on a Renault 9.
ENG 255 (This obviously pertains to the English (British) dead in the Falklands War) This number is on a FIAT 127
BGN 332 (This is surely connected to ARA Belgrano and the number is close to those who died aboard her) This number is on a Renault 4
LGN 923 (This obviously means Mount Longdon and the number is close enough to the total of fatalities in the Falklands War) This number is on a Toyota HiLux.
These are just the ones I've seen over the last few days, I'm sure that if one really tried one could find offense on every other car that passes you on the road. This stupidity plus the 20 year old “Malvinas veterans” just make our poor country seem a sort of Alice in wonderland place, another example of the kirchnerverse!!!!!!
This is you observing serendipity, Simon. What Top Gear decided to do was calculated, for ratings and for money.
Oct 10th, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still, it's fun, and will be funnier when it is edited down and aired.
“Top Gear did have details of Falklands Porsche number plate before buying it
Oct 10th, 2014 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BBC admits it did ask for paperwork which confirmed Porsche's controversial number plate H982 FKL before shipping it to Argentina for Top Gear Special”
and the imbecile said it was a coincidence...
@ 109 POLLY
Oct 10th, 2014 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you noticed that your post number is THE SAME as an ME109, the fighter the Germans used against the spitfire and lost to?
How about that for a coincidence!
Are you going to throw stones at an Airfix model of a spitfire now?
Ha, ha, ha, ad infinitum.
christine
Oct 10th, 2014 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0guess those BELL END number plates were also a coincidence for you, no?
you are so naive, not to say so nabo...lol
#111
Oct 10th, 2014 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How were the number plates even remotely as bad as the reaction from your countrymen? And what about the abhorrent training on the war memorial to make a political point before the olympics?
Face it, JC played you all and won. He showed what a bunch of childish thuggish hypocrites many of your fellow countrymen are.
@111
Oct 11th, 2014 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0If your people get a sad on over car number plates and act like the morons they are, why when they were armed with guns did they not try harder in 1982, if they really believed the Falklands belonged to them?
The answer-when faced with people who are armed equally, your countrymen shit their pants.
No wonder you need all those scanners.
If Clarkson had been armed, your people would have been running at top speed in the opposite direction.
was this not at the end of the tour, or at the beginning,
Oct 11th, 2014 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0seeing as the BBC did not just turn up, thus it was arranged months ago, why not was the car number plate spotted before,
or was it ??
and the ambush was set up ??????????????????
so next time we see a smelly argie with a smellyargie flag here in the British Falkland Islands we will have to mob them, and send them into the sea as there is only a water border. especially for mr paulcedron.
Oct 11th, 2014 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0oh this subject is so 'over' in the UK, last week's chip-shop paper as we used to say.
Oct 12th, 2014 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Only in Argentweena is this still important.
I'm gone from these 'Clarkson' threads.
See you all another time!
:-)
Ilsen,
Oct 12th, 2014 - 03:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0See you at the next contrived 'National Threat' or crisis.
:-D
Has nobody else noticed that BE11 END is quite obviously a reference to the General BELgrano meeting its END!
Oct 12th, 2014 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can I have a chorizo now, please?
@115 FI
Oct 12th, 2014 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is the rumour true that in WW2 a German agent was found in the Islands and dragged behind a horse?
119
Oct 12th, 2014 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That was Herr Think
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