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Lady Alice: “Argentines eat a lot of beef, but have never eaten a journalist”

Tuesday, October 14th 2014 - 05:15 UTC
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Jeremy Clarkson and BBC's 'Top Gear' program need publicity and controversy to keep going and that he has managed with his recent incursion through the south of Argentina, which ended with his team escorted to the border with Chile fearing 'for their lives', which obviously impeded them from accomplishing their formal task but not the real objective. Read full article

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  • Faulconbridge

    “We do, it is true, eat a lot of beef and talk a lot of bull.”

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 05:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Ah, light dawns and Argentina see the PR disaster that looms :-)

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 06:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Which one is it, Alicia,
    a flight to BA, or escort across the border?

    “When local people spontaneously gather to repudiate Clarkson’s behaviour, the local authorities immediately interceded to guarantee the safety of all members of the British team securing means of transport, seats in a flight to Buenos Aires and a special treatment to cross the border to Chile.”

    Didn't the Argentine authorities also contrive to have Clarkson and his group arrested at the Chilean border for “illegally entering ARGENTINA”?

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    The Falkland Islanders have taken note of Argentina's reaction Alicia.

    No amount of deflection or weaselling will change that.

    Another nail in the coffin.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 06:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    When was she honoured by the Queen, must have missed that.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zathras

    Usually she asks “Chicken or Beef, Sir”.

    Really surprised no one got there before me.

    Poor taste alert, literally:

    Unless you are on a flight with Uruguayan Rugby players, in which case “special meat” is on the menu.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    I think she is very silly to keep this story going , particularly after the revelations that the Gendarmeria tried to stop the crew crossing the border into Chile and then demanded that Chileans send them back .
    The tons of footage on YouTube , which will no doubt be used by Top Gear tells a different story , as do the articles in the local provincial papers and on the websites of veterans' groups . They are proud to have run them off brandishing pick axes .
    I hope they invite this silly cow onto the Xmas special to explain away all the evidence that contradicts her sanitised version of events .
    Finally , a lot of journalists in Argentina did experience the “parilla” ( barbeque ) which is electric shocks applied to a person dowsed in water lying over a metal bed frame , so another lie .

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McCool

    Alice? Alice? Who the f@#k is Alice?

    Come on, you all know the words. Lol

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Humour, even. That could have been quite a decent piece of spin by the good Lady Alice, were it not for “the dramatic episode of the ship that was sunk on the orders of Margaret Thatcher, thus triggering a war that should have been avoided. ”

    Welcome to the Malvinaverse, where being an Argentine menas never having to say you're sorry, because nothing's ever your fault.

    Consequently, it must surely also be somebody else's fault that the fleeing TG team, their safety guaranteed by the local authorities, were led by two Argentine polcie cars slap dab into a howling mob of repudiating citizens, resplendent in their traditional hi-viz jackets, and armed only with stones. It would be totally unreasonable for anybody to think that the Tolhuin police might reasonably have been aware that a howling mob has gathered in the path of the fleeing refugees, and might have informed their oncoming colleagues that they should maybe think about stopping for a while, or taking an alternative route. Probably it will turn out that police communications were bing jammed by the British Death Star at Mount Pleasant Airbase.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    The only time you can stop disbelieving a malvinista is when their mouth is shut.
    Even then you don't want to know what they are thinking.
    Are they really human? Or some other Hominid species?
    Having said that, l think J.Clarkson is a troublemaker.
    But in this case, pray continue.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    I wonder if you can sue an Ambassador for liable?

    I mean she has basically told one of the biggest and most easily disproved lies even by Argentina's standards.

    But on the other hand the whole world can see what a joke and what liars the woman, and by association Argentina is.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Biguggy

    These 'comments' seem to be something of a 'roast' of poor Alicia?

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    The longer Alicia and other dimbo Argentines rant on about it all the worse idiots they will end up when the film series come out- and become a hit in all other South American nations I guess!
    As a result of their rantings and the 20-30 yr old “veterans” threatening and acting violently - H982 FKL is suddenly starting to appear as the “2nd vehicle reg number” pinned in vehicle windows in Stanley this week as some 30 off alleged “veterans” arrived on Lan for a week and wander about!
    Good old Argentina - world specialists at Feet Shooting.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    It is difficult to remember that “chicken or pizza” is, after all, the Ambassador for Argentina to the Court of St. James.

    Incredible.

    They have no class whatsoever these argies.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    “ thus triggering a war that should have been avoided”

    Funny that. I always thought that the war was triggered by the sudden arrival in the Falkland Islands of a bunch of latter-day conquistadores!!

    The war could, of course, not have become a shooting war if the Argentines had obeyed UN Resolution 502 - the only BINDING UN Resolution ever passed about the FI.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    '...dramatic episode of the ship that was sunk on the orders of Margaret Thatcher, thus triggering a war that should have been avoided.'

    Ermmm I think they war was triggered when Argentina invaded the Islands, is someone trying to rewrite history?

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    So a puppet has had her say once again. See how easy it is to distort a History. But then again Argentina is very good at doing that .
    Once again Argentina has fallen hook line and sinker into the making the fools out of them selves by distorting facts.
    I don't know what the motives if there were any at the time of the whole Clarkson trip but just like everything that has a connection with Argentina the Falklands or Britain these days always ends up in a free for all and the Argentines getting egg on their faces.
    Once again the Falklands has hit the world headlines because of the Argentine actions. If they had ay sense they would never start debates they know that they can never win when it involves a peaceful people as the Falkland islanders are.

    It is a joke to suggest sinking the Belgrano started the whole conflict given that the Argentines came in force and invaded our Country before any ships were sunk. Typical distortion again of Historical facts but then what else can we expect from Alice . Puppets can only perform by the actions of their strings being pulled.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PhraseWizard

    Even without corroborating evidence that Jeremy Clarkson was, indeed, threatened with violence and even imminent death, it is unimaginable for anyone who knows the Argentine rabble on a long-term personal basis to believe that what he claims is not only possible, but in Argentine character, and most likely worse than he described. (Although there are good, reasonable and civilized Argentines, the kind who attacked Clarkson and company were, I can easily imagine, miraculously held back from actual murder and mutilation by, perhaps, the presence of witnesses or some other mysterious threat of exposure. The Argentine national character is of brutes, witnessed daily by all who live there or visit.)

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Orbit

    16/17 - Agreed, that is absolutely outrageous, blaming the whole war on the sinking of the Belgrano in May. It was already a shooting war on the 2nd April ...

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    I do hope this comment is 'drawn to her attention'. What an incredibly dozy cow. Curiously, the Belgrano was sunk on 2 May 1982. A month after the war had started. One can be forgiven for asserting that, when no declaration of war is issued, war starts with the first offensive action. Such as an illegal invasion. Was it 'illegal'? Of course it was. The invaded territory was British. A UN trust territory. A territory the UN told argieland to get out of. And a month later a British submarine sank a bucket of bolts engaged in further offensive manoeuvres. The decision to sink the Belgrano was undoubtedly 'controversial'. Why was anyone from the Belgrano left alive? Once the cruiser had been struck and halted, why didn't HMS Conqueror (Blessings be upon it) circle around and hit it again from the other side? What would have been wrong about machine gunning the life rafts? Why does the cow mention Clarkson offending people in 20 incidents? Her presence in the UK offends millions. Opening her large gob offends even more. Why has this 'trolley dolly' not been expelled for 'conduct inconsistent'? Might be because every time she 'contributes' the people of the UK hate argieland even more. I wonder how these 'local' people managed to gather 'spontaneously'. Simple question, If a car is travelling at 30 mph, how long does it take to 'spontaneously' gather a crowd? Surely it couldn't be 'government' sending lunatics out to 'cover' a known route? Despite there being 320,00 British people living 'happily' in argieland, why does Think/Twinky reveal his hatred by referring to them as 'English'? Argieland, of course, has no 'long-standing relations and ties of friendship' with the UK. Argieland has been an enemy since 1820. The 'entire international community' is calling for nothing. But it's easy to resolve the 'dispute'. Pick a solution of your choice. The UK could nuke argieland to oblivion. Or we could exterminate the argie 'government'. Or something really nasty!

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    Intersting listening Richard Hammond, Radio 2 Interview with BBC R2 At around 1hr:42min:00
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04jyjny
    Make your own judgement on this, for me Ms Castro, your letter has been found wanting, you are a liar, and misrepresent, your falsifications and inaccuracies are to my mind ineffably puerile. You, like your government, suffer like an adolescent teenager from emotional incontinence when it comes to the Falklands, grow up and shut up.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #22
    Actual time is 1h: 45'45”

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Journalist do have a nasty habit of getting killed or disappearing in Argentina tho.

    Anyone else think its suspicious that the Arg Supreme Court is having a few openings lately? Seems like just in time..

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Distracton. Pay your debts, rotting roadkill.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jay Bee

    Excellent work Alicia; keep it up. Hopefully the Argies will continue to dribble lies about this so that the TG team can lap it all up and weave it into the episode. I'm sure they've got plenty of time to edit it to make Argentina look as bad as possible.

    Face it CFK, Hector and Alicia, you can only dream of getting audiences as big as the TG ones. Say whatever you like now and you'll just dig yourself deeper in and 135 million+ people will be watching you in a few months time.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    !“”“”“”recalling the dramatic episode of the ship that was sunk on the orders of Margaret Thatcher, thus triggering a war that should have been avoided.“””

    is that the war that war started by Argentina invading the Falklands about a month earlier?

    Or did that one end, and Maggie started a new one?

    Tad confused Alicia as it appears that you are re-writing recorded globally accepted history...

    or just telling flat out lies....(nothing new there after all)

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    Trouble is Alice and her lot cannot accept the historical facts and the quicker the rest of the world realise that the quicker we can all go about our lives in peace.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jay Bee

    Alice in Wonderland?

    How did that Argie TV advert before the 2012 London Games go? To win on British soil you have to train on British soil. Was that it? You know, the one where the Argentine athlete was filmed exercising on the war monument in Stanley.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    Of course Ambassador Castro would always state the truth about Argentina and the Clarkson incident.

    The rock-damaged cars were actually the result of snow falling. The crowds of rock-throwing, teenaged “ veterans ” were actually well-wishers cheering on the Clarkson team, that mistook their supportive intentions.

    After all, Argentina is know as a country of responsible, calming, peace loving people, who pay their bills and debts on-time, and in full, just as other civilized countries do.

    Sorry, did I get ahead of your creative explanation Ambassador Castro ?

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    @29 Jay Bee,

    I think it was “to win on English soil, play professionally on Basque soil” wasn't it?
    It's somewhat telling that for their great media coup of having a hockey player running round the Falklands on film, they finished up choosing someone who had played for Atletico San Sebastián for a decade, who then got dropped before the Olympics themselves, where the team promptly only managed one win and one draw out of five games, thus failing to progress to the semi-finals).

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aimee

    Ashamed that she represents my country in uk or in any part of the world. !

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jay Bee

    31 Rufus

    That's the one. I don't recall reading that the Falkland Islanders threw stones at the film crew and they had to be escorted out of the territory.

    32 aimee
    I guess she's doing what she's told to do by the president and her team. It's them I'd be worried about if I was Argentine.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostrum of NostrolL

    @2

    I think it's funny you think anyone in the country even cares about our public relations in the UK. That is about as important to us as a cricket competition.

    No one had ever heard of that show in Argentina until two weeks ago.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aimee

    @Jay Bee but everything has it's limit , you cannot say that things .. ! if i were i would feel ashamed , if she does not feel shame it is because she likes the money we pay her ( parents 's taxes ) or she is afraid. idk

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jay Bee

    35 aimee

    I get your point for sure; she does seem a bit of a liability but your government is either happy wither or has no control over her.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PhraseWizard

    32 Aimee, ¡Que bueno! Por fin una voz por parte de probablemente todos los argentinos educatos. . . . How wonderful, 32 Aimee! At last, a voice on behalf of probably all good and reasonable Argentines. ¡Pobrecitos, siento mucho por Uds!

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    “The conflict in the South Atlantic – and especially the memory of those who lost their lives in the war on both sides – deserve to be treated not with malicious mockery, but with understanding and respect.”

    Ha!!

    and when has the government treated “memory of those who lost their lives in the war” with anything other than malicious mockery???

    I hope she chokes on those words

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aimee

    PhraseWizard

    You do not need to be ironic we are not all badly beheaved just because you see all the fucking kirchneristas (cristina's followers) does not mean we are not educated ...
    Besides we don't need pitty from anyone ..

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 39 aimee
    “Besides we don't need pitty from anyone”

    OK, tell us what YOU think you think should happen to get you out of this nightmare.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aimee

    Honestly i do not know.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    *32 ¨my country¨ sounds like another Brit in disguise.......

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aimee

    aussiesunshinee
    no i am argentinian ask me whatever you want from my country and then you decide if i am from here or not

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jay Bee

    42 ASS

    *32 ¨my country¨ sounds like another Brit in disguise.......

    Name all of the other “Brits in disguise” that you're already aware of. And what's your story with a name like aussie sun shine?

    I love how the Malvinistas on here accuse every Argie who is not on their side of being an imposter and they blame Merco Press for being biased against them simply because the news is so bad for Argentina.

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    44 Jay Bee

    Well said!

    You hit every point spot on.

    Auzzie SS swore up and down for ages that he was Austrslian, using every trick he could to impersonate one.

    Anglotino finally tripped him up - he's likely a Spaniard or an Argentinian.

    Like Marcos A., he's a 2nd tier Troll, following the others around.

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PhraseWizard

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    Clarkson & Co were making a film about what it was like to drive accross Patagonia that will be broadcast in over 100 countries.

    Argentina having shot itself in the foot, Alice needs to appear on the show to apologise and explain why it won't happen to other visitors to the country, not to issue easily disproved lies.

    I have no idea about Argentines eating journalists, but they have tried to close down news outlets and killed a few journalists over the years.

    Ricardo Gangeme
    Jose Liz Cabezas
    Adams Ledezma Venezuela
    Mario Bonino

    all within the last 20 years.

    What about all of the 40,000 people killed in the dirty war, were journalists protected? Probably only if the followed the government line, not too different from today.

    They have also made it illegal to publish accurate economic statistics about the country.

    So Alice, let's not try and portray argentina as a modern democracy that respects freedom of speech.

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 06:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    Britain and the making of Argentina by Gordon Bridger

    'When in the centuries to come, the Argentine nation tells the world of the use it has made of its sovereignty, the name of Great Britain will figure in its story as the principal factor of its political, social and economic progress, whose influence has been at all times beneficial for the fortunes of the Republic, and must be so with greater efficacy in the future' General Bartolome Mitre - 1905 By 1914, Argentina had become one of the world s largest trading nations and, according to some, the tenth most prosperous country in the world. She exported more than all the South American countries together. Argentina was the agricultural 'El Dorado' of the world. It was principally British technology, British capital, British management, combined with massive immigration from southern Europe, which converted Argentina from an economic backwater into the wealthiest country in South America. Buenos Aires became the richest, most European city, in the southern hemisphere. This sadly neglected history needs retelling as it is not without relevance today. While it is a history of development it has been personalized to bring alive the pioneering achievements of the many thousands of British people who contributed to its transformation.”

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    l'm sure l read somewhere that in 1900 Argentina had the highest standard of living in the world.
    What happened, peronistas????????????????????????
    Why are you not now so wealthy, happy & peaceful, that the Falklanders now would be ASKING YOU, “could we join your country, please”.?
    You've screwed up, big time, Argentina.
    Do you want the British to manage your country?
    Now, we'll NEVER join you. Don't even want to think about it.

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @48

    The country’s dramatic decline has long puzzled economists. Simon Kuznets, a Nobel laureate, is supposed to have remarked: “There are four kinds of countries in the world: developed countries, undeveloped countries, Japan and Argentina.”
    ....
    No other country came so close to joining the rich world, only to slip back. Understanding why is the first step to a better future.

    http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21596582-one-hundred-years-ago-argentina-was-future-what-went-wrong-century-decline

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    @48,49,50

    I am sure that the Argentina of the 1910s wasn't just built on British technology and expertise but also hard work and goodwill on behalf of the population. In the next 60 years that was replaced by governments featuring power hungry and corrupt politicians and somehow in the following 40 years it has been supplemented with a massive sense of entitlement and victim hood. It is strange that the British involvement seem to be the focus of this sense of victimhood when the countries fortunes mainly have wained during at the absence of the British presence as we have had to refocus our attention away from Argentina to deal with 2 world wars followed by integration in what is now the EU.

    It always seem strange that Argentinians always seem to be protesting at our presence, when I would have thought that history would teach them to protest at our absence.

    A better relationship would not only mean more investment in capital and technology in Argentina, but also many likely benefits from a better relationship with the Falkland Islands, which less face it, as well as bringing financial rewards, was the only (if getting remoter every year) possible route to Argentine sovereignty of the South Atlantic a Islands.

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bollywood

    Many Argentinians descent from the moronic people.

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @52

    If you're going to going to call people the descendants of morons you probably should learn to spell better...

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jay Bee

    50 Hans

    Very interesting read. thanks for the link.

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes 45 Doido

    What utter shite you've written there Alicia.

    You dishonest lying horror of a human being.

    Defending a bunch of nasty troglodytes, that you personally would have been a part of if you had been there.

    go back to RG land you mankie bas**rd.

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bollywood

    53@ sorry seißeberg, I meant to say MOORISH people. They sure hell ain't white people, except the descendants of Nazi's. I met few there. Also, lot of Christian Arabs in Cordoba.

    Oct 16th, 2014 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @56

    No need to apologise to me. How you can confuse 'moronic' with 'MOORISH' though is what has me perplexed.

    Oct 16th, 2014 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PhraseWizard

    Hahahah . . . ! (Spanish: ¡jajajajaja!): No, no, I rather like 52 Bollywood's phrasing!!! :)

    “Moronic” is Latin America's cancerous sub-species:
    Kingdom: Man,
    Phylum: Latin,
    Class: Latin-American,
    Order: Southern Cone,
    Family: Argentines,
    Genus: Porteño-origin, including those who moved deeper into Argentina
    Species: Arrogant, Back-stabbing, Sneaky and inveterately compulsive pathological Liar!

    Oct 16th, 2014 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    @ 56

    You clearly ignore Argentina´s demography. If you don´t have a clue, the smart thing is not to try to sound smart, under risk of fail and making yourself look dumb, as you just did with your post.

    Oct 16th, 2014 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bollywood

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    Oct 17th, 2014 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    Surely she didn't say Margaret Thatcher started the Falkans War by sinking the General Belgrano, would this be the same General Belgrano that had received orders to sink the British fleet just the day before?

    The woman looks old surely old enough to remember the war, perhaps her ailing memory has failed her.

    Argentinian started the war by using 8,000 troops to launch a surprise attack on their friendly neighbours which were defended by just 60 troops and went on to occupy the Islands and abuse its civilian population until liberation day.

    Oct 18th, 2014 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    61 RICO

    I am afraid that her ailing memory has prevented her from remembering a little incident in South Georgia on the 03rd April 1982. I hope that you will forgive me if I quote from Max Hastings excellent account of that day:-

    For the British, the only redeeming aspect of the nation's humiliation was the vigorous resistance put up by Lt Keith Mills and his 23 man marine detachment previously landed from HMS Endurance on South Georgia.
    The young officer had received orders reflecting the confusion and contradictions in London. He was to shoot only in self defense; not endanger life; yet not surrender.
    At 10:30am on the 3rd April, Captain Astiz, aboard the Argentine vessel Bahia Paraiso at Leith, Radioed news of Rex Hunts surrender to the British detachment around Grytviken, urging that Mills and his men should follow suit. 2 hours later, the corvette Guerico and 2 alouette helicopters approached the harbour, followed by a big Puma troop carrying helicopter.
    The Royal Marines opened fire with every weapon they possessed, damaging the helicopter and forcing it to beat a hasty retreat. They hit the corvette with 3 x 84mm Carl Gustov anti-tank rockets and more than 1,200 round of small arms fire.
    After 2 hours, with a much superior Argentine force established ashore, 4 argentinians dead and 1 British NCO badly wounded in the arm, Mills concluded that he had done as much as any man could expect to force the argentines to pay a price from South Georgia. He returned to Britain after his surrender to receive a hero's welcome and the DSC.

    Brave man that Lt Mills, a credit to the Royal Marines....................

    Oct 18th, 2014 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bollywood

    59@ are you a Argie-monkey?

    Oct 18th, 2014 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @63

    Don't know what an “Argie-monkey” is but I can tell from his posts that SebaSVTZ is intelligent, articulate and can actually spell. Something you seem to find, well...challenging.

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PhraseWizard

    Dear Heisenbergcontext and SebaSVTZ . . . Not quite true: As all Argentines, SebaSVTZ hasn't learned the difference between the tilde (Examples: á, é, í, ó, ú) and the apostrophe (Exs: I'm, You're, She'd, etcetera), or a combination of arrogance and laziness, not just ignorance.

    (For God's sake, Argentina, The apostrophe's at the extreme right on the highest row of keys, the one the little finger of your right hand should strike, NOT the one to the extreme right of the asdfghjklñ row!)

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    65

    I see you take your moniker seriously. No doubt The Times crossword puzzle trembles before your steely gaze...

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @64
    I second your comment re: SebsSVTZ. I have had some interesting and beneficial discussions with him before.
    So... Well Said, Sir!
    @65, This isn't Pedants' Corner... ffs!
    Not all keyboards are an exact match to yours, and some people are posting from their smartphones/tablets etc.
    Surely you have better things to concern yourself with?

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 66 Heisenbergcontext

    I think the crossword in 'Women's Weekly' would easily defeat him.

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @12 LEPRecon
    Unfortunately Alicia cannot be sued...she has diplomatic immunity...but no immunity against stupidity.

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    The Court of St. James must feel that there is an advantage to keeping the truly inept, hamfisted, Ms. Castro, as Argentina's representative.

    Her blundering,blunt instrument approach to diplomacy, and ridiculous public statements, can always be held up to ridicule, and easily used against Argentina and herself when the time is right.

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PhraseWizard

    Dear 66 Heisenbercontext and Ilsen 67, When commenting read read with intelligence: my comment was merely a demur on 64 Heisenbercontext's careless and undeserved lauding of 59 SebSvtz's universallyArgentine hallmark, kindergarten-level inability to raise the little finger of the right hand an inch and a half (3 & 1/2 cms) to the apostrophe (on every Western keyboard), instead of causing journalists and translators the onerously inadvertent task of correcting an otherwise simple error multiplied hundreds of times in large documents or in bulk.

    (The only thing worse than your inability to gracefully remain silent in the face of a justified criticism is the jealousy-driven affront of spitball tossing at someone better educated than you. . . . “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” Abraham Lincoln.)

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @71
    Umm... 1 & 1/2 inches is actually 3.81 cm I think you will find. Not 3 & 1/2.

    Also the distance required to move ones fingers directly corresponds to length and agility of said fingers. Whilst the fixed distance between two points does remain constant a person less ham-fisted than yourself must move their shorter and more delicate digits across the internal area. Thus requiring greater effort over distance than your thudding sausages.
    On another note the apostrophe key on my smartphone is on a separate keypad to the 'qwerty' one.
    How do you measure that?
    Perhaps you should read (“read read” and proof-read, see above)
    , your own advice before offering it to others?

    pedantry, natch!

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @71

    I demur, Mr PhraseWizard sir. One misplaced apostrophe does make one a bad speller. Nor is such a minor mistake limited to Argentines. A cursory glance of the posts on this website will bear this out. I'm rather disappointed that an intelligent man would respond to gentle mockery with such ( to echo your broadside ) gracelessness. I can honestly say that jealousy was not the motivation behind my earlier post to you.

    @72

    Well said.

    Oct 20th, 2014 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    hmmm... some of the magic seems to have withered from PhraseWizard's wand...

    Hoisted by his own petard methinks! Hubris is such a bitch...

    Oct 20th, 2014 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @51RICO
    “It is strange that the British involvement seem to be the focus of this sense of victimhood when the countries fortunes mainly have wained during at the absence of the British presence ”...

    You nailed it...they feel bad when they have to admit that the only time in history they were important on the world scene, is exactly when the Brits were there, building the infrastructure of their country. It's all sour grapes.

    Oct 20th, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I have met young, intelligent, educated Argentines in London that truly wish Argentina could have become part of the British Commonwealth of Nations...

    jus' sayin'
    :-)

    Oct 20th, 2014 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    @ 76

    I second that wish also

    Oct 22nd, 2014 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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