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After another round of personal attacks with Neves, Rousseff is taken ill

Friday, October 17th 2014 - 07:32 UTC
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Brazil's President Dilma Rousseff fell ill at the end of a tense and at times bitter televised debate Thursday with challenger Aecio Neves. Rousseff and Social Democrat Neves traded accusations for an hour and a half, after which she began to complain of feeling light-headed as she left the rostrum. Read full article

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  • BOTINHO

    President Dilma made the charge of nepotism, and was reminded by Neves that her own brother, Igor Rousseff had a job he never attended but waswell paid for.

    Apparently this caught her off-guard, resulting in her hypo-tensive episode. Not a good sign: She has earned and deserves a long rest under medical care.

    One should not bring up allegations that one cannot defend. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

    Oct 17th, 2014 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @1 BOTINHO

    Given your comments I don't think the 'wobbly' had anythink to do with BP, more with the realisation that the news about her brother had just been telecast to anybody with access to a TV!

    Brilliant own goal.

    Oct 17th, 2014 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    PMT Nah she is too old.

    Oct 17th, 2014 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Looks like she was abt to cry..

    Oct 17th, 2014 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Vote in Aetius is like voting in arrears.

    Unemployment, speculation, wage squeeze, children begging on the streets, crowded hospitals, shortage of doctors, end of the naval industry, blackout, concentration of income,

    Just do not see who is blind!

    Get ready for years of decay and loss of national property!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tLdd1vJ2_4

    Oct 17th, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    “Unemployment, speculation, wage squeeze, children begging on the streets, crowded hospitals, shortage of doctors, end of the naval industry, blackout, concentration of income”

    What, more of the same?

    Oct 17th, 2014 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2014/10/17/after-another-round-of-personal-attacks-with-neves-rousseff-is-taken-ill#comment359340: I think that irrespective of who wins the runoff it is Lula (and Dilma) who are the real winners. The last three administrations have so transformed Brazil that going back is not an option for any government.

    Looking at the congress if Dilma wins I think she will have real problems there.

    Oct 18th, 2014 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @5 Brazzo
    Shut the FU you blind moron !!
    Dilma was crapping herself ...she'd just been caught out and had a wee panic attack....f*ck her !! and ALL petistas.....
    Your level of ignorance is midboggling...best get back to your job....cleaning lavatories.

    Oct 18th, 2014 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    Only 8 more days remaining, Dizzy D.

    Oct 18th, 2014 - 06:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    BOTINHO....you are from Brazil......what is the pulse of the people there? Do you think Neves will take it? This is up to the people to move forward or backward like Argentina.

    Oct 18th, 2014 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Last polls show Aécio around 55% and Dumbo about 45%....I think Aécio's message calling for change , as well as Dilma's pathetic performance in the debates, is taking it's toll on the PT.

    Oct 18th, 2014 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    Ola Captain P -

    Sorry, I was down in Natal.

    The consensus by “pulse ” depends where one lives.

    In the Nordeste, the PT is stronger with more support for President Dilma. In the South and in the major cities, there is much more support for Neves, and indirectly, Marina Silva.

    Jack Bauer has hit the nail on the head with the level of widespread frustration across Brasil very accurately. I know of one family that cut a long-planned vacation to Europe short in order to be here on the 26th in order to vote again for Neves.
    ( “ Dumbo ” is somewhat less polite and accurate than “ Dizzy.D ” ).

    Many in the PT quietly admit that since the expenses of the recent Copa revealed that vast amounts of money vanished into the air, and few pockets, they want to see better accountability and change.

    Argentina ? Sorry, not even close. We paid off our IMF debt under President Lula, and have since loaned money to the IMF to help other less fortunate countries. That was a very forward looking act by Brasil. No comparison

    Oct 18th, 2014 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    A few of interesting editorials:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-a-lees/five-things-neves-must-do_b_6003678.html
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-a-lees/five-things-neves-must-do_b_6003678.html
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-a-lees/five-things-neves-must-do_b_6003678.html

    And something that I heard a couple of days ago; “The choice is between change with continuity and continuity with change.”

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    Ola Hepatia -

    These are good article, which I hope others outside of Brasil and Latin America take the time to read.

    I'm sure you are aware that behind the scene, Neves and Lula are the best of friends.

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2014/10/17/after-another-round-of-personal-attacks-with-neves-rousseff-is-taken-ill#comment359429: How revealing.

    Lets assume for a minute that the person you are attacking is in fact a toilet cleaner then he / she would be a honest hard working person who is supporting his / her self, and their family, by dint of their labor. Yet you, a self confessed member of the 'real middle class', and who has never done one day of honest work in your life, consider such a person as beneath you. Such are the attitudes of the idle rich in Brazil.

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    First, If another member here is ranting and not making sense, I choose to simply ignore the comments rather than make personal attacks. Frankly, if you re-read that thread I think you are confusing me with Jack Bauer.

    Second, Brasil's middle class has emerged from the poor class historically, but retains the actual real work experience, and leftwing politics. They know the meaning of hard work.

    The original upper class that began when Portugal ruled Brasil disappeared virtually overnight when we became independent. They lost everything as royalist status meant nothing, an that continues today. Most moved into the interior, and integrated. Look up the term Caboclos.

    Beyond assuming and the the hypothetical, you might find an English copy of “ 1808 The flight of the Emperor, ” by Laurentino Gomes to add to your library.

    Today's upper class resulted from those with skills, education, and real work experience amassing wealth, property and power. Are there sons and daughters that have never done a day's physical work ? Sure. We have our version of Sloane's Rangers, just as other countries do. Many are now even to be found in the PT.

    When I was young I recall a family of exiles from Estonia near us. Fine educated people. The father was a Supreme court Jurist in Tallin, who left everything behind fleeing communist occupation. According to my father Sr. Yuri was on a “ list to be arrested ” just as the Nazi's had. Initially, the only work he could find here was cleaning bathrooms. No one treated him badly, as it seems to be more of a joke subject in other countries such as the UK. ( I've seen the Monty Python skit )

    That happened throughout Latin America to many leaving a post-war Europe behind. They have to start somewhere.

    Idle rich are idle rich anywhere: China, Russia, even in Teheran on Elizabeth II Avenue, driving the latest Maserati. Been there and I've seen it. You name it, they are there.

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 04:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @13 Hippy
    I read a couple of the links you posted. Interesting and informative for those who either don't live here, or don't keep up with the news. One thing the 1st link states wrongly is that the PSDB is centre-right...they are centre-left, but miles away from the PT's ideological radicalism, which, if they had their way, would be similar to Venezuela's and Cuba's (failed) socialism...what concerns me with regards to the PT, is not really their incompetence, or even corruption - taken to the highest levels under Lula and now Dilma - unfortunately a couple of traits amongst most Brazilian politicians/governments - but their continual attempts to gag the Press, and more recently, about 6 months ago, a Decree-Law signed by Dilma, without consulting Congress, which in effect removes a lot of power from Congress, and institutes a few other anti-democratic practises, one of the main ones being the possibility of confiscation of private property without due legal process... Consult Google : Decreto Lei 8.243, signed by Dilma on May 23, 2014.
    Dilma, with no prior experience of an elective post, was catapulted to the top by Lula, because he knew he could control her....The Petrobrás “fiasco” is an example of how the PT stole from and used the company to benefit the PT politically... the investigation has just uncovered an interesting fact - under Lula's instructions, one month ago, Petrobrás 'donated' US$ 434 million to Evo Morales' recent presidential campaign... I suppose that is really ethical, isn't it ?? I could go on and on, but there's not enough space here..
    Botinho @16 is correct in saying you are confusing him for me....and yes, I referred to the “Brasileiro” deprecatingly, not because I don't respect “toilet cleaners”, or any other menial work for that matter, but because I am pretty sure 'he' is just one of the many receivers of the government's “Bolsa Família” and is afraid he might lose it if change occurs, and he'll

    Oct 19th, 2014 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2014/10/17/after-another-round-of-personal-attacks-with-neves-rousseff-is-taken-ill#comment359632: A misunderstanding I believe. If you are viewing this site on a standard Web browser you will see a link at the top of my post. Clicking this link will take you to the message I was replying to.

    Oct 20th, 2014 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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