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Falklands oil industry regulated by UK North Sea standards, one of the highest in the world
The elected government of the Falkland Islands has strongly refuted remarks by Argentine official 'Malvinas Secretary' Daniel Filmus, published in The Guardian, in which he states that hydrocarbons activities in the Falklands are environmentally reckless, and describes Filmus words as “yet another example of the Argentine's government futile efforts to damage the Falklands economy” Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesActually I found the Guardian article quite shallow and deficient on any real facts or story.
Nov 06th, 2014 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/27/british-drilling-falklands-eco-disaster-argentina-malvinas-daniel-filmus-oil-gas-sea-bed
However, if Argentina wants to continue spouting lies that can be easily refuted by the Falkland Islanders; then who are we to stop them?
Does Filmus actually think it is the FALKLAND ISLANDERS that are drilling for oil, I would suggest that all the companies drilling in the FALKLANDS have safety and environmental concerns covered. I have seen the oilfields in Neuquen Province and I can honestly say I was disappointed, oil spilling out of all the nodding donkeys I saw through lack of maintenence, I would suggest Filmus go and address that.
Nov 06th, 2014 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Filmus stated that ”the risk of another accident like the Gulf of Mexico (in the Falklands oil exploration) is huge.”
Nov 06th, 2014 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Argentina it is not? scaremongering dick!
Filmus said according to the Grauniad:-
Nov 07th, 2014 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0- “ binding UN resolutions all obliged Britain to negotiate over the future of the islands”
Which binding resolutions would they be exactly?.
Is it a law in Argentina that all Government officials have to have their brains removed??
The title mentions “yet another example of the Argentine's government futile Efforts to damage the Falklands economy”: And for the millionth time TELL TO ISLANDERS: ARGENTINA HAS NO INTRERES ON, OIL, FISH OR WHATEVER YOU CALL THE ISLANDS ECONOMY: OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A CONCERN FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
Nov 07th, 2014 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0DO EVERYTHING YOU WISH FOR ISLAND ECONOMY BUT NOT DAMAGE THE ENVIRONMENT
Imagine if a loss of oil occurs in the Argentine sea around the islands, would be catastrophic, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE EXXON VALDEZ OR THE GULF OF MEXICO.
IN THIS, ARGENTINA HAS TO TRUST IN THE ISLANDERS AND ENGLAND, FOR ANYTHING THAT OCCURS NO DAMAGE TO BOTH, ARGENTINE AND THE ISLAND.
SOVEREIGNTY NOT MEAN TO US, ECONOMY, IN CHANGING ENGLAND, ALL, SEEK FIRST THE ECONOMIC SIDE.
Hernán
Nov 07th, 2014 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't tell someone what to do in their own country unless you are willing to negotiate an agreement.
“hydrocarbons activities in Malvinas are environmentally reckless”
Nov 07th, 2014 - 04:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing new, the colonial government in Malvinas has a long history of being environmentally reckless.
http://www.seabirds.org/
There were agreements for cooperation to manage fisheries, sensitive habitats, and other resources.
Nov 07th, 2014 - 05:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nestor tore them up in 2005.
2012 - CFK wanted to send in Chinese jiggers in a deliberate attempt to overfish and destroy the industry.
You are beyond redemption, Marcos - what a hypocrite.
Marcos
Nov 07th, 2014 - 06:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Go for a swim in the Riachuelo in BsAs and then talk about being environmentally reckless.
God we really need a higher class of troll on this site because the current ones are getting more and more pathetic as the days go by.
'Filmus said. “You can’t explore without proper support from the continent. The risk of another accident like the Gulf of Mexico is huge.”'
Nov 07th, 2014 - 06:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't all the Gulf of Mexico spills over the years involve companies that had 'proper support from the continent'?
The man is a drongo...
Has anyone made sense of the posting by Hernán?
Nov 07th, 2014 - 06:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Better class of Troll needed, and updated translation software too, it seems.
Nov 07th, 2014 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hasn't TrollSpeak 2.0 been out for some time already?
Who cares about Filmus?
Nov 07th, 2014 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0He's another lying, raving ratbag.
He seems to be subtly suggesting that if Argentina had the Falklands & OF COURSE, was drilling for oil, then no disasters(oil spills etc)would be likely to happen!
You've got to be kidding, Filmus.!
l wouldn't let you shower of incompetent fools change a light bulb, let alone get involved with oil extraction at sea!
The mind boggles.
Look at the state of your(snigger!)Navy.
ls that the standard that we'd see in your pathetic attempts to pump oil?
And Filmus, idiot, you can press as much as you wish, but Argentina is NOT going to get its thieving paws on these lslands.
What a goose, Frank's right.
The man is a Drongo.
@2 - Are you referring tot the UK's high safety standards as shown by BP (British Petroleum) in the Gulf of Mexico?
Nov 07th, 2014 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Which were operating to US standards because the market is always right
Nov 07th, 2014 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's not even the dumbest thing Filmus said this trip. He also claimed that the UN prohibits Argentina speaking directly to the islanders.
Nov 07th, 2014 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/11202965/Is-Argentinas-Falklands-secretary-the-ultimate-minister-without-portfolio.html
I didn't know the Gulf of Mexico was in the North Sea.
Nov 07th, 2014 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Either I'm wrong or the Moderator is a product of the Argentine education system.
7 Mike Bingham
Nov 07th, 2014 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Get over it.
@4. I agree. There are only two 'binding' resolutions related to the Falkland Islands. 502 and 505. Argieland ignored them both. Why is argieland a member of the UN?
Nov 07th, 2014 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5. You're an idiot. If I get the gist of your gibberish, it's only because of my advanced English intelligence. Remember the pulp mills dispute? The supposed Uruguayan pollution that was traced to Gualeguaychú? It's not as though argieland has even heard the phrase 'safety standards'. How are the brakes on your trains? And if you're not interested in anything except the environment, why are Kirchner & co always on about 'sovereignty'? Apart from the fact that you're all liars. Anyway, a good oil spill would probably improve your coastline.
@17. Are you trying to say that argieland has an education system? Isn't it based on comic strips?
You are going to see a lot more of this Argentine whinging from now on because the penny is beginning to drop and they now realise just how much they have lost by not participating in anything Falklands when they had the chance. They simply thought without their input we would fail. Seems they grossly underestimated the Falkland islanders who went out in the world saw what others had done right and wrong regarding oil and decided to legislate what has turned out to be one of the best management programs for Fishing, Tourism and Oil. We are a future force of intelligence to be reckoned with and little old CFK does not like it one little bit. Dream on Argentina the oil fields will be developed by Falkland islanders using professional oil companies and there is nothing you can do about it. You defiantly missed the boat on this venture because of your continued foolish belief that we do not exist. We do and we are going to prove it to you in the very near future when black gold starts to flow and our Country becomes even richer and more secure.
Nov 07th, 2014 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just think, the FALKLAND ISLANDERS could be selling oil to Argentina in about 5 years time. Missed out there didn't they, they could have had a share in it , but now going to pay for it. Tough shit.
Nov 07th, 2014 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7
Nov 07th, 2014 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since we got rid of that oddball Bingham conservation has come on in leaps and bounds as they now work well with government and push things through with reason instead of being confrontational about everything.
”He said Argentina would respect the right of the Islanders to remain British but wanted “the exercise of sovereignty”.
Nov 07th, 2014 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So this article is not really about the dangers of pollution, its the same old broken record about sovereignity.
“… warned that unilateral drilling for oil and gas in the Falklands….”
So, in his mind, ‘unilateral’ drilling for oil and gas is bad, on the other hand, bi-lateral drilling (with Argentina of course) is ok!
What a bunch of hypocrites.
Even on the odd chance that Argentina was invited to join this venture, what can they bring to the table?
Expertise: Argentina’s expertise in relation to the Falklands revolves around the odd invasion and attempts at squatting. They offer nothing positive in the way of oil and gas exploitation.
Diplomacy: This is the crowd that is so frightened and paranoid that they are currently involved in a unilateral diplomatic attack upon the US, a country that has gone out of its way to appease them. In addition, we have the outrageous personal racist attacks by a poster on this site, who proudly proclaims himself to be Argentine, against President Obama. Argentina is a rapidly becoming a diplomacy free zone.
Money: Their currency is as worthless as used toilet paper.
In short they can contribute nothing of a positive nature to the Falklands oil project. All they can do is lie, cheat try and obstruct and complain to anybody prepared to listen.
They talk like losers, they behave like losers they are losers!
11 Gordo
Nov 07th, 2014 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your friend “Hernan”, blessed with a new operator on one of the other threads, is lucid and clear, with beautifully flowing ENGLISH prose.
No need for new translation software it seems!
@17 - I guess Piper Alpha met the great UK standards in the North Sea.
Nov 07th, 2014 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe you should wash your mouth thoroughly with soap
@25
Nov 07th, 2014 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You want to look closer to home, your enviromental damage to the pampas is collossal, I once rescued a fox that was covered in oil in Neuquen Province, I would suggest oil drilling is a lot safer than being in Argentina, they throw the population out of planes, don't you know. We can all do histronics, boludo.
@25
Nov 07th, 2014 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're seriously trying to compare UK standards and regulation to that of the failed, dysfunctional mess that is Argentina? come on now, get real!
The Argentine Foreign Minister said IN February 2010 that action was to be taken in the international courts against UK oil companies exploring for hydrocarbons around the Falkland islands. Why is it taking soooo l o n g?
Nov 07th, 2014 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Filmus, a former education minister....I suppose that qualifies him as an expert on oil exploration....Mr. Edwards should have just ignored him.
Nov 07th, 2014 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25... Piper Alpha was over a quarter of a century ago.... most people learn from their mistakes... Argentina excluded... they have been making the same mistakes for over 150 years.
Nov 07th, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14
Nov 07th, 2014 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For your information BP is not British Petroleum, BP is just another oil company with millions of shares, actually BP has had to pay something like US$ 90 billion in compensation to the USA. The fault was not just BP it was many companies ( Halliburton ) an oil cementation company apparently made a mistake with their cement plug and a fault on the blowout preventer which is supposed to cut off the well did not funcion. It is called an accident not entirely preventable. Everybody looks back and sees what can be done to negate a future occurance. Wow even Argentina looks back to 1833 but still has not learnt anything.
'Malvinas Secretary' Daniel Filmus
Nov 07th, 2014 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0????????????
No disrespect guys, but why should we refer to him as thus,
Surely referring to an argie official is just as good,
As it seems one is accepting the 'Malvinas Secretary' Daniel Filmus as the norm,
After all, we don’t want the loonies to appoint the malvinas official government and have that referred to,
Just saying like,
Personally I would have referred to him as an idiot…
.
And that Mr Briton, would be an astute & intelligent observation of Filmus.
Nov 07th, 2014 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An ldiot………says it all, really.
@23 downunder,
Don't honey your words, mate.
Tell the idiots what you really think about them!
Oh, you just did! Bravo, lol lol lol.
32 Briton
Nov 07th, 2014 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good point - why not just make him Minister of Outer Space and send him up with the next satellite??
:-)
Ha ha lol.
Nov 07th, 2014 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You can’t explore without proper support from the continent.”
Nov 07th, 2014 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course the idiots at the Guardian haven't found out that Argentina doesn't develop oil, it gets outside companies to do it, just like the Falkland Islanders do.
It could not even be imagined what disasters would occur if the continental support had come from YPF!
“ It means potentially undermining biodiversity,” Filmus said”
Which is why Argentina grows GM Soy, with all the herbicides that can be used with a GM crop no doubt helping Argentina's biodiversity (LMFOA).
“The environmental risk of exploring for oil in the region is huge.“
The risk would be great if YPF were involved , but happily, they are not.
”Last year the Argentine congress voted to impose jail sentences of up to 15 years on executives whose companies drill for oil, as well as punitive fines of up to 1.5bn dollars. It has said firms will also be disbarred from lucrative work in Vaca Muerta“
The effect this has had = Big Fat Zero
“Argentina has said it will sabotage what it regards as illegal oil exploration around the Islands”
By waving a white flag in the general direction of the Falklands? Burning Tyres? Or by launching an airstrike?
Bring it on amigos.
“Filmus said he did not attempt to meet anyone from the British government during his one-day trip to London.”
He knew HMG would be equipped with bullshit detectors.
“Mr. Filmus, a former Education minister and Senator, was named to the newly created Malvinas Issues Secretary, after losing his re-election bid for the Buenos Aires City seat.”
Says it all. A loser.
@5
“OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A CONCERN FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.”
Argentina does not give a FF for it's environment.
What about the excessive levels of pesticide in your Lemons?
What about the way herbicide is randomly sprayed on your GM crops?
What about the mines you left in the Falklands?
@19 Conqueror
”Remember the pulp mills dispute? The supposed Uruguayan pollution that was traced to Gualeguaychú?
36 PeteBog
Nov 08th, 2014 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0“What about the way herbicide is randomly sprayed on your GM crops?”
- What about the way herbicide is randomly sprayed on your indigenous peoples and their families living adjacent to the soy fields?
Is Señor Filmus on glue?
Nov 08th, 2014 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0from the article
Nov 08th, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ was named to the newly created Malvinas Issues Secretary, after losing his re-election bid for the Buenos Aires City seat”
says it all recently, he's a loser doing a job he doesn't want to do.
“yet another example of the Argentine's government futile efforts to damage the Falklands economy”
Nov 08th, 2014 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would seem that over 90% of the Argentine's government efforts are futile.
jus' sayin' like..
one of the highest standards in the world, huh?
Nov 09th, 2014 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the british...???
lol
ask the inhabitants of the gulf of mexico.
Try reading the thread before you post paulie.
Nov 09th, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See @31
If you are had read that first you would not be looking so stupid now.
So much to learn Polly, and so little time!
What will you do when the lights go out and your Internet goes down?
Its coming paul-carrion, it's coming. You need to prepare.
Has anyone told Paul that the Gulf of Mexico isn't in the North Sea? I know he's lacking in an education but that is pretty embarrassing.
Nov 09th, 2014 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't confuse the poor child with facts, logic or reasoned arguments. He still lives in a fantasy land.
Nov 09th, 2014 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obvious by his posts really.
anglotine, the aussie guy (lol) and ilsen;
Nov 10th, 2014 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0the problem, you dumb & dumber is when you mix british with petrol.
again, ask the inhabitants of the gulf of mexico.
is that not enough for you, you brainwashed islanders?
then ask the inhabitants of texas, alaska and the list goes on.
“For BP, a History of Spills and Safety Lapses”
and if you want “UK NORTH SEA STANDARDS” LOL, then ask greenpeace.
North Sea leaks 'reality check' for British oil industry, says Greenpeace
Environmentalists say industry's arctic safety case undermined by figures showing 55 pollution incidents in last month.
Britain's offshore rigs and platforms have leaked oil or other chemicals into the North Sea on 55 occasions over the past month alone, challenging claims by the industry that it has a strong safety and environmental record.
45 chico prostituto
Nov 10th, 2014 - 01:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Got the link to support your statements, or do we need to scour the internet on the off-chance some random info corresponds to your blathering??
useless toy:
Nov 10th, 2014 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0let's see, i have explained it to you several, several times, but it is my fault, i forgot you have the same iq as a dead slug.
so here we go again;
google - the - quotes, and voilá: you - get - the - links.
understand?
no?
my god...
As we've said to you before,
Nov 10th, 2014 - 05:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's amusing that you can supposedly quote from the “article”, the parts that supposedly support your statements, but you shy away from giving the link that would put it in context, and show the true story.
People who are not afraid, provide the link that backs their statements.
You're a fakir- get lost.
“.....Filmus said. “You can’t explore without proper support from the continent. ...”
Nov 10th, 2014 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Filmus said, but he didnt say which continent!
48 Prostituto CabanaBoy
Nov 10th, 2014 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Until you provide proper links to back your statements, we will just have to dismiss your crap as BS.
Links let everyone see at a glance who the source is, credible, biased, or whatever.
The presence of the link lets us see if you are lazy and just bluffing, like ASS and Marcos are prone to do.
The body lets us see if you are lying, like Think.
No link - we assume you are making up stories and will NOT go looking for it.
#47
Nov 10th, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK, you continually rubbish just about everything British, engineering, science medicine, civil engineering scientific research etc.
Tell us, oh wise one, the world beating advantages of adopting ANY Argentinean
technology. The only one I can think of is gaucho trousers.
50
Nov 10th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it seems you are not only an imbecile and pelotudo, but also you have some kind of fixation with prostitution / prostitutes and stuff.
anda a hacerte el orto, putito, or go and see a shrink.
CabanaBoy @ 52
Nov 10th, 2014 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's really only meant to be an analogy to your character.
As a brainwashed Nationalist, you bend over and do whatever you are told to do or say,
just as you will sacrifice your dignity to your new foreign masters.
As a country, You no longer have the financial power or the respect you once had.
The new terms with the Chinese will be very one-sided against you.
I wonder what you will need to do as an individual, to get by.
All you have left is empty arrogance as a failed state - Yep, we're laffing at you!
53
Nov 10th, 2014 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0trolazo
not a surprise though.
paying a prostitute must be the only way you can get laid.
now considering that you are the typical greasy, fat, pasty inhabitant of the islets, even a prostitute would reject you.
less junk food and more workout, lazy islander.
Due to Paul's manifest inadequacies, you just can't argue logic. So let's just throw some facts out.
Nov 10th, 2014 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THERE'S
NOTHING
YOU
CAN
DO!
Argentina shall now have to sit back and watch the Falkland's do whatever it wants with its oil. If that leads to a repeat of the Gulf of Mexico, then all I can say is “suck it up biatch!”
Not your oil.
Not your territory.
Not your laws.
But they can but-
Nov 10th, 2014 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CRY and cry again...lol
54 CabanaBoy
Nov 10th, 2014 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....and you and your society will end up as prostitutes that do not have a choice.
I feel for the people of Argentina, not you though - you're part of the problem and you WON'T see it
:-)
A prostitute to China...
Nov 11th, 2014 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0piss-poor-panhandling-polly doesn't get it. He is actually part of the problem. He keeps on ranting at the 'Brits' but his problem is at home.
Colombia and Chile know who to make friends, and trade, with. Just Arg & Ven that keep getting it so wrong.
British oil companies are drilling in Paraguay. We didn't see one of their Ministers writing letters to the Guardian did we?
hmm....
Why is Filmus quiet on that one?
@37 Troy
Nov 14th, 2014 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“What about the way herbicide is randomly sprayed on your indigenous peoples and their families living adjacent to the soy fields?”
Correct- the important thing is that the GM crops aren't killed by weedkiller but Argentina doesn't give a stuff about the damage caused to the kids.
Same as 1982, the Argies didn't care about the unmarked mines and placing artillery near Islanders houses, but when they were under fire it was a different story.
Little has changed
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