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Falklands/Malvinas issue to be debated at the Parlasur Parliament
The Falklands/Malvinas dispute and 'colonialism' will be discussed on Monday during an extraordinary session of the Mercosur Parliament, Parlasur, in Montevideo with the attendance of Argentine and Uruguayan foreign ministers Hector Timerman and Luis Almagro. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesPerhaps these enthusiasts for dialogue would care to invite somebody from the FIG to hear the other side of it?
Nov 10th, 2014 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares ?
Nov 10th, 2014 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0who cares what they're meeting about?
Nov 10th, 2014 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0No one is listening.
@1
Nov 10th, 2014 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0They have just realised that the 6 companies that were exploring for oil in the FALKLAND waters are going back in 2015 to appraise and look for more oil. Perhaps they think that if they keep regurgitating it will go away. Christ they are so dumb. Just bought more shares in the partisipating companies, would be a fool not to.
Yawn
Nov 10th, 2014 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Boring.
Nov 10th, 2014 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Next useless forum....
“...the beginning of dialogue between the governments of Argentina and the UK as mandated by the United Nations and the international community, but to which the British have deaf ears”
Nov 10th, 2014 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rubbish. The UN resolutions have said that the interests of the legitimate inhabitants of the Falklands must be taken into account.
Argentina refuses any fair negotiations where members of the Falklands community are present to represent their interests.
Argentina refuses negotiation without the precondition that they are given sovereignty over the Falklands, regardless of outcome.
Argentina has attempted to use the dispute to claim South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, areas which they have even less claim to than the Falklands.
It is *Argentina* that is refusing negotiations. That much is not disputable. If the Argentinian government want negotiations, they must accept that a fair negotiation will not automatically result in their gaining sovereignty of the Falklands or any of the associated lands. Indeed, a truly fair outcome would result in their withdrawal of their claim altogether!
The appropriate venue for this dispute is the ICJ. However, Argentina will not take such a move, because they know deep down that they will lose.
Not that that would stop them - I seem to remember the last time they lost fair and square in the ICJ, their government of the day illegally declared the decision “null and void” and refused to abide by it.
Either agree to fair negotiations, take the UK to the ICJ, or drop your false claim. There is no other honest alternative.
OMG (from an atheist), the big guns are coming out now: Gollum and Almagro aka The Argie Rent Boy.
Nov 10th, 2014 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is going to happen to the Malvinas once this august body has deliberated for the Nth time. FUCK ALL!
Apart from Uruguay is still trying to get rid of The Argie Rent Boy to the chair of some outfit I have long since forgotten the name of.
Neither the Fig or the uk are involved so zero chance of anything changing.
Nov 10th, 2014 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0#1 My friendly MLA tells me FIG offered to attend, but have had no response. No surprise there then, the truth might be a nuisance. And I dare say Tinman will complain we refuse to talk to him.
Nov 10th, 2014 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Neanderthals.
So Parlasur really does exist !
Nov 10th, 2014 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have asked over the years if it had become defunct - with no one replying that they knew one way or the other.
Wikileaks helps us to understand what is going on - or not:
'Porque el Parlamento del Mercosur no funciona y porque su futura
integracion con notoria supremacia de legisladores brasilenos y
argentinos “favorece la asimetria”, Uruguay piensa desvincularse del
Parlasur. El Estado destina casi U$S 500 mil anuales al organismo
legislativo. ... etc'
http://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?viewemailid=1968034
There are some really big issues that need tackling, not least countries leaving the defunct organization, high level corruption, state-condoned murder, oil industries throughout the member states.
For them to review the Falkland Islands is small beer in the larger scheme of things but is inevitable in the run up to the death of CFK.
TFI should at least have a watching brief at each meeting, as is the case for certain nations outside Parlasur.
Why not focus on why the mercosur is a shambles and hasn't managed to establish a common external tariff in almost a generation, why they have passport controls between members and no free movement of people, goods or capital and why the pacific Alliance is light years ahead? NO, MUCH EASIER TO WASTE TAXPAYERS MONEY, talking absolute nonsense!
Nov 10th, 2014 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Debate' it says in the headline....
Nov 10th, 2014 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Looks to me as if it will just be a bunch of malvanistas in a big 'circle-jerk'.
Are they discussing 'attempted Argentine colonialism?'
Nov 10th, 2014 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't they realise that Argentina has an implanted population?
@10: “My friendly MLA tells me FIG offered to attend, but have had no response. ”
Nov 10th, 2014 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course not - far easier to condemn a people if you don't have to look them in the eye when you're lying about them.
Why else would Argentina refuse all negotiations with the Falkland Islanders?
If the legitimate inhabitants of the Falkland Islands are not permitted to attend, or to speak on their own behalf, then this can hardly be truthfully called a “debate”.
“Besides Timerman other experts on the Falklands/Malvinas question from the Argentine foreign ministry, including the Secretary for Affairs Relative to Malvinas, Daniel Filmus will be attending”....
Nov 10th, 2014 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Besides Filmus and OTHER EXPERTS ?? They really think a lot of themeselves , don't they ? but EXPERTS ??? And who gives a rat's arse what these nincompoops decide...it carries absolutely no weight.
16 Jack Bauer
Nov 10th, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You beat me to it.
Well said. EXPERTS ?? all the argentines are “Expert” in is stealing other peoples land.
No one cares what they think.
Government of the Virgin Islands
Nov 10th, 2014 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bvi.gov.vg/bulletin/hms-dragon-brief-visit-territory
HMS DRAGON: Brief Visit to the Territory
A UK Royal Navy vessel will be anchored in Road Harbour for a short visit on the afternoon of Friday 7 November. The purpose of the visit is to pay a brief courtesy call to the Territory whilst en route to the [ Falklands Islands. ]
HMS Dragon is the fourth of the Royal Navy's six Type 45 air defence destroyers. The ship left the UK on October 27, 2014 for a routine seven-month Atlantic Patrol Tasking deployment where she will take over from HMS Iron Duke.
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EXPERTS, eh?
Nov 10th, 2014 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or X-SPURTS?
X being an unknown quantity, &
SPURT is a drip under pressure.
A shower of lying, bludging, time-wasting, arrogant nobodies, who think that they can bluff & ride rough-shod over us.
Think again, amigos.
You are not even on our Radar Screens.
@17 toooldtodieyoung
Nov 10th, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry....but , as they say, “great minds think alike”.
For a continent without kangaroos, they do have an awful lot of kangaroo courts.
Nov 10th, 2014 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 019 lsolde
Nov 10th, 2014 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't worry, as friend “Briton” has pointed out at 18... The Dragon is coming!!
Anyway, just goes to show that The Royal Navy's got your back.
Let them play their games.
Let them form their committees and have their conferences. It amuses the rest of us that they think that it will / can change anything.
Meanwhile, the “senior service” will park a cutting edge warship just off Port Stanley that could blow their whole f**king air force out of the sky ( in one go ) if they ever tried anything silly.
But you do have a point. They are a shower of lying, bludging, time-wasting, arrogant nobodies.
Or what about “rabble”?? Couldn't they be a Rabble instead of a shower? I'll leave it with you.
At Parlasur, “ a group of intellectuals and political leaders ” what a fucking laugh, what does Parlasur mean, southern speach?
Nov 10th, 2014 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They have no intention to carry out dialogue, only diatribe.
Nov 10th, 2014 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To which our response would be H982 FKL.
Stop the bullshit, strap on a dick and go try to take them by force. Then someone might pay attention.
Nov 10th, 2014 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Mercosur Parliament rejects British control of Malvinas Islands”
Nov 11th, 2014 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Legislators representing Mercosur members Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay and Venezuela slammed the UK's refusal to negotiate over the future of the archipelago as an ”anachronistic colonial position,“ which was unjustifiable under any circumstances”
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/174365/mercosur-parliament-rejects-british-control-of-malvinas-islands
“Mercosur Parliament rejects British control of Malvinas Islands”
Nov 11th, 2014 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh no! The end is nigh.... why couldn't anyone see this coming?
“The Falklands/Malvinas dispute and 'colonialism' will be discussed on Monday during an extraordinary session of the Mercosur Parliament, Parlasur, in Montevideo with the attendance of Argentine and Uruguayan foreign ministers Hector Timerman and Luis Almagro.”
Nov 11th, 2014 - 07:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0And who will speak for the other side in this debate? Nobody of course, this is a ‘special’ Argentine type of debate where the assembled ‘experts’ sit around, agree with everything Hectoring Hector has to say and blow smoke up each other’s backsides.
Like a bunch of galahs squawking at each other!
Like everything Argentina attempts, this gabfest will be an ‘extraordinary’ event indeed. A ‘special ‘colonial event for ‘special’ colonialists.
@28
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Eloquently put dear fellow. just “smoke and mirrors” just to show the Argie population that the Argie government are actually doing something, anything to detract to what is going on in the Argie economy,
#23
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is a official 'political' arm of Mercosur - itself a political entity.
It is largely moribund, but going through the motions (see #11)
Mercosur Parliament rejects……
Nov 11th, 2014 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares what the cretins reject?
Maybe Mercopress meant “Mercosur Parliament are rejects……”
Thats it, of course.!
Makes sense now.
time to return to england, the place where all of you belong, i guess.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what?
the real british don't want you there either?
are you some kind of pariah then?
my advice is: there is a group of uninhabited islets in southern new zealand, according to your logic, they can be yours.
so go and squat them.
go, hurry up!
@26. The UK NEVER gives in to terrorism. Venezuela, Uruguay and argieland, at the least, are terrorists. See what you're up against?
Nov 11th, 2014 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32. Little pablo rises to the surface like scum. Not quite accurate. Scum rises to the surface like pablo. Probably sticks around the rim of the toilet as well. Is there a greater example of colonialism than south america? It even 'speaks' colonial languages.
But, pablo, have you considered that the whole of south america has very few human beings? Despite there being hundreds of tribes, there are only thousands of proper people. Lots of invaders and conquerors of course. Murderers and rapists. Thieves and other criminals. And pablo's 'solution' is to go and steal someone else's land.
Why? Because argies are scared and cowardly. They now KNOW that Britain WILL defend. It will NOT give in. It will NOT surrender. Much rather go out and DESTROY the toilet seats of latam. Casa Rosada, Residencia de Suarez,
Palácio da Alvorada, La Casona, Palacio de Miraflores, Carondelet Palace,
Government Palace, Palacio Quemado. All toilet seats.
Doesn't one lance a boil? Let the pestilential, suppurating pus drain away? Set aside 2 million square miles, chosen by the natives, for their exclusive occupation and use. Negotiate appropriate payments for leasing the remaining 5 million square miles.
So at the end of the day, not so much a “debate” as a stroking session for the Kirchner government. I'm truly surprised.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fuckem!
Nov 11th, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's so tiresome, I didn't know HMS Dragon was on her way there. I think her presence will be an appropriate response to this bullshit.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just more crying from the argies, playing the victim.
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