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“Malvinas are Argentine”, mandatory in all Argentine public transport systems
All Argentine public transport must include the logo “Malvinas are Argentine”, according to the latest bill approved by the Lower House in Congress, following on an initiative from Senator Teresta Luna from the ruling coalition of President Cristina Fernandez. Victory Front. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThis is absolute madness. I would punch that senator in face and step on his face with my large foot if I could.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 04:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0The indoctrination continues. There must be a suspicion that the brainwashing isn't working properly :-)
Nov 20th, 2014 - 04:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2
Nov 20th, 2014 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lord Ton,
We should see what an Argentine thinks of it.
I wonder if Simon68, CD2, MagnusMaster,or Klingon have anything to say about this??
When a country starts to mandate tired slogans of control in public, with no room for opposing views of free speech, you are seeing that country taking steps towards dictatorship.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, Stalin's Russia, .and more. Argentina is becoming another Zimbabwe, or North Korea..
The Argentinean version of ARBEIT MACHT FREI.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 07:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bread and circuses for the uneducated masses.
Oh dear, Oh dear another backward step, what a shame as Argentina if it could get rid of its inferiority complex and sorted its financial problems could be a better country. Trouble is everyone is watching their back as they all have something to hide be it corruption or tax avoidance.Lazy buggers too.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile the Argentinean government 'maintains its right to dialog over the Falkland Islands sovereignty.' This is great news for the islanders because it reaffirms how ridiculous Argentine government is. A little step forward for the islanders and one giant leap backwards for Argentina. Next step public lavatories...
Nov 20th, 2014 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0This has got to be a joke right? I hope this gets picked up by the international media if true.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Will any of these suitably-labelled forms of transport be stopping at the ICJ or FIG?
Nov 20th, 2014 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0At least Senator Teresta Luna is well named.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lunatic - Senator Teresta Luna
Nov 20th, 2014 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0late 13c., “affected with periodic insanity, dependent on the changes of the moon,” from Old French lunatique, lunage “insane,” or directly from Late Latin lunaticus “moon-struck,” from Latin luna “moon” (see Luna). Compare Old English monseoc “lunatic,” literally “moon-sick;” Middle High German lune “humor, temper, mood, whim, fancy” (German Laune), from Latin luna
So are the argentine masses starting to realise that the Falklands don't belong to them?
Nov 20th, 2014 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0The signs should include a single road to an isolated Roundabout to show that anyone taking that “route” will either have go around in circles or return by the same road.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's almost as if they are trying to convince themselves of something they know to be untrue. Sad really.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Extraordinary....utterly extraordinary.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where is the alternate view in Argentina..who dares challenge the indoctrination?
So what's next, on the back of every toilet door?
Nov 20th, 2014 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fag packets?
Tattooed on the insides of their eyelids.......?
It will probably turn out that Senator Luna or somebody owns a sign writing business.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who knows how this will play out in Argentina.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0But to anyone in the real world this is just the latest stupid stunt to come from the mad cow.
I haven't noticed an Trolls commenting on this yet.
Maybe even they realise just how crazy this is.
Just more smoke and bullshit to to keep our uninformed masses gullable and thinking the K's are actually doing good for our country.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are there any pearls of wisdom or deviations coming forth from paulcedron ?
Nov 20th, 2014 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unbelievable.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0So if they do take the case to the ICJ (which will never happen) who are they going to call to support their cause?
Maybe the 8:30am direct train to Buenos Aires?
This is counter productive for the government because the Islands are patently not Argentina's in anything but sentiment , so if people dismiss this as blatant propaganda , they will dismiss everything the govt says as propaganda .
Nov 20th, 2014 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0What next , signs saying “ La deuda no existe ” ( We are not in debt ) ?
The next step will be compulsory chanting.....not much different to North Korea really. Madness, but I guess he got a few brownie points from his loony leader. Hoping for a nomination somewhere perhaps ?
Nov 20th, 2014 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0@23,
Nov 20th, 2014 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sadly, that compulsory chanting is already in place. Public AND private schools. So what more is left? Sure they will think of something
The madness never ends. Do as I say not as I do.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 022. Good point over and over repetitive propaganda and over done political use of this by the FpV will end up having a counter effect.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is a fascist country, and if any one had any doubts you can see Goebles here doing his, or her (as inthis case) work. The followers of the fascist general Peron, use trade unions (descamisados), peronist youth (campora), fascist education, and the military loyal to them. Text book Hitler and Mussonlini. Lucky for the world they are so incompetent (no Germany here) and the UK put them in their place in 82 stopping a war with Chile etc. etc... look what they have done with the democracy Maggie gave them! Cristina is desperate for the UK to throw her a lifeline, they are running, hopping, jumping for the Falklands .. but to the the UK I say DON'T, let the Argentines see Peronoism and Crisitina for the fascist failure which they are. They shouldn't have any success in internal policy snowed under by foreign debt claims and default, and the relations with the UK at the South East of Argentina should remain frozen until all this brainwashing in schools, public transport etc etc .. all this fascism with its bad will has to go first.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0This woman is clearly getting ready for the upcoming election and attempting to earn a few brownie points and a seat in the laughingly called “cabinet”.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, TDC: home of the stupid, illiterate, innumerate morons. And that's the “government”!
27.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina isn't fascist, its over the top populist. The most populist country in the world.
It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. Winston Smith, his chin nuzzled into his breast in an effort to escape the vile wind, slipped quickly through the glass doors of Victory Mansions, though not quickly enough to prevent a swirl of gritty dust from entering along with him.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0The hallway smelt of boiled cabbage and old rag mats. At one end of it a coloured poster, too large for indoor display, had been tacked to the wall. It depicted simply an enormous face, more than a metre wide: the face of a man of about forty-five, with a heavy black moustache and ruggedly handsome features. Winston made for the stairs. It was no use trying the lift. Even at the best of times it was seldom working, and at present the electric current was cut off during daylight hours. It was part of the economy drive in preparation for Hate Week. The flat was seven flights up, and Winston, who was thirty-nine and had a varicose ulcer above his right ankle, went slowly, resting several times on the way. On each landing, opposite the lift-shaft, the poster with the enormous face gazed from the wall. It was one of those pictures which are so contrived that the eyes follow you about when you move. MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS, the caption beneath it ran.
Pathetic and brainwashing both come to mind. And the Government there continues to be amazed by the lack of enthusiasm shown by Falkland Islanders to join their great democracy!
Nov 20th, 2014 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0This behaviour is welcome and should be encouraged. It widens the gulf between Argentina and the free western world. The only other places you see this are in the well known dictatorships.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0On Argentine buses: “Las Malvinas son Argentinas”
Nov 20th, 2014 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On British buses: “Please do not put your feet on the seating”
THAT's how much we care
brasher
Nov 20th, 2014 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“On British buses: “Please do not put your feet on the seating””
do you put your feet on the seating?
...animals.
If I am sick and go to the doctors I want them to tell me what is wrong with me and how they plan to cure me. I may not enjoy the surgery or medicine but I accept it knowing it will make me well again. What I don't want is a doctor who tells me I am perfectly OK when I am not, or that, Yes I am sick but it is all someone else's fault. Why don't the Argentines vote for politicians who do the former and not the latter?
Nov 20th, 2014 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As this is Argentina they should probably also insist that the entire road transport network includes a sign that announces “This is a bus” to assist the confused locals as they address their transportation needs.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If by now argie bloggers aint fed up with this childish p[olicy, then they should be ashamed,
Nov 20th, 2014 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0why,
the world thinks Argentina CFK, has totally lost it,
she is acting like a controlled robotic doctorial computer, controlled by a lunatic,
what next, apparently she demands that all pay a Malvinas tax, to keep this embarrassment up,
all argie people should have Malvinas tattooed on their foreheads
all children to be called Malvinas, and have the Malvinas as the child's godmother,
the Malvinas is mine all mine, to be sung at every game Argentina partakes in,
Don't cry for me Malvinas will become your new national anthem,
and you wonder why the world laughs at you,
lololol
@34:
Nov 20th, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“brasher
“On British buses: “Please do not put your feet on the seating””
do you put your feet on the seating?
...animals.”
No I do not. I believe its a note for the South American tourists.
Its only total Neds like little Pauly who are dim enough to defend this utter fascist stupidity. Bahahahahahahahaha..
Nov 20th, 2014 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you know it was actually an Englishman who invented the Tango!
Apparently it was a Spaniard who created stupidity and exported it to Argentina, so they say ?
Nov 20th, 2014 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 Troy Tempest (#)
Nov 20th, 2014 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nov 20th, 2014 - 05:59 am
To answer your comment, I would say that this is the final proof that the “Malvinas myth” is failing at last. It has been calculated that about 30% of the Argentine population believed that the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands belongs to Argentina, but this ridiculous “law” shows that the real percentage must have dropped well below 25%!!!!!
CFK--
Nov 20th, 2014 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She is a daughter of Eduardo Fernández (of Spanish heritage), a bus driver,
and been driving the world around the bend ever since...
They should also make it mandatory to write on all public transportation:
Nov 20th, 2014 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina is the World Cup Champion”
At least they would only be out-of-date by about 25 years, instead of by well over a century.
Put simply,
Nov 20th, 2014 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0why cant CFK and her government stop acting like spoilt children and grow up.
44 Briton
Nov 20th, 2014 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because they're not acting...
@41 Simon 68
Nov 20th, 2014 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hi Simon,
This is a really disturbing turn of events. Do people just laugh it off, or has it started people talking about how crazy this government is, to pursue the Malvinas Myth?
@34 CabanaBoy
“do you put your feet on the seating?
...animals”
do you think before you put your foot in your mouth?
...follower.
44 Troy Tempest (#)
Nov 20th, 2014 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nov 20th, 2014 - 01:56 pm
There were a few comments this morning in the supermarket, mainly considering the lack of brains shown by the FpV in general and by Senator Teresta Luna in particular.
During my recent jaunt from Santiago to Mendoza, there were these signs everywhere especially in bus and railway stations. Its another form of brainwashing. But speaking to lots of people they are fully aware, and recognise that its a purile government attempt to distract people from the massive problems Argentina is grappling with, and just laugh at it. The Malvinistas like Pauly, Marcos and Josey are the butt of many jokes and people talk about them as sad stupid fools with no self awareness of how they are being manipulated by the bunch of crooks in the government. My hosts in Mendoza are keeping their heads down and their money in multiple banks outside Argentina.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Translated versions of 1984 and Animal Farm are apparently selling really well.
Not more bus drivers! I knew there was a link to Maduro!
Nov 20th, 2014 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seriously tho. This is like Venezuelan chavista 'Eyes that watch'. The stencils are everywhere. @30 inthegutter to see this for real you only have to visit Venezuela.
@3 I find it a bit creepy and extreme but not something completely unexpected. I don't think anyone will openly oppose this. You have to keep in mind, when it comes to Malvinas no dissent is allowed. Not just by the government, but by the whole society. If you dissent you can only do sure as long as your voice is completely drowned.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every country has thoughtcrimes. In Argentina to not believe that the Malvinas are ours is one of them.
“Our beloved KFC comes this way ” shouted Paulie “When she approaches, stand at salute and shout 'Las Malvinas son Argentinas' as loud as you can until she has passed”.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Presently I saw men standing on their heads in the street and along the curbs and each of them was shouting 'Las Malvinas son Argentinas' at the top of his lungs....but everybody shouted and everybody saluted who was not using his hands to keep from falling down.....
With apologies to Edgar Rice Burroughs and his novels 'Carson of Venus'.
Do Rgs go out of their way to embarrass themselves on a daily basis?
Nov 20th, 2014 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes
Nov 20th, 2014 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30 Quite so, it seems to be the blueprint for 'The Model'.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK has been obsessed about the Falklands since she was a student activist. Nestor indulged her a little to keep her quiet but now she is off the leash she has allowed her insanity to rule over any sense.
I have a hunch that her enablers invent these stunts to appease her and distract her like shiny objects. I have always said she is like the character of Queenie in Black Adder; mad as a box of farts and dangerous when angry.
Klingon - you seem to be a reasonable person - just what is going to happen in your country? This madness at so many levels of government cannot continue.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surely there are enough Argentine citizens who can agree to put the country to rights and then negotiate with the islanders about the future of relations between the two countries?
Maybe CFK needs to wake up one morning to find a penguin's head in her bed.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She might finally get the message asuming she doen't mistake it for a mirror.
Stupid.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pointless.
Brainwashing.
Absurd.
What else could be said?
Argentinian law makers have embarrassed me one more time. Not surprising.
it seems this iso-logo touched a nerve of the flaklandistas.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol..
nobody here, except the ultra k and the imbeciles like you isleters, gives a shite for that iso logotype.
and for the 4th class newspaper, that is not a “logo” you ignorants.
logo = word
in that case there are image + words = iso logo.
ignorant isleters.
45 Simon 68
Nov 20th, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks Simon,
It's good to hear people are talking about it realistically.
I just don't know how thinking people deal with this sort of thing daily!
What do you say to your kids?
What happens when parents advise their kids, in contradiction to what their teachers tell them??
Hang in there Simon.
Cheers
Theft is legal. Nothing new under the malvinazi flag.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
#56
Nov 20th, 2014 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jesus, what a pedant. Do you think it makes you look clever?
I would be fucking embarrassed if my government (I understand a majority of representatives supported this) put up posters claiming something that is not only de facto untrue but also morally reprehensible.
You should be ashamed of your government. I'm somewhat dreading my imminent visit to Argentina. I imagine defacing one of these posters would result in me getting stoned?
“Danzig is German”.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Nazi_World_War_II_poster_Danzig_is_German.jpg
But they already have million of these signs, just type:
Nov 20th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“las malvinas son argentinas road sign”
Not a news.
1984 indeed...
Nov 20th, 2014 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”“President of Argentina Cristina Kirchner appointed the philosopher and ruling-party supporter Ricardo Forster as head of the Secretariat for Strategic Coordination of National Thought, an entity that will fall under the purview of the recently created Ministry of Culture.”“”“
and now the posters everywhere to back that up..
It makes me feel exceptionally sorry for Argentines.... their government is shitting their country down the toilet, whilst they make millions in drugs and corruption..and yet all they have to do to buy the masses off is shout ”Malvinas son EasilyDistracted!”
@61 Seriously don't deface anything. I'm not sure you would get stoned but you could get arrested.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@64
Nov 20th, 2014 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I thought graffitin was ok as there is plenty on the streets in BA
I would be concerned that the next step will be like Venezuela- “Malvinas son Argentina's” tattoos, to prove you are a patriotic and loyal Argentinian.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just like the “Chavez ”Tattoos in Venezuela.
This is just another attempt to keep the public stirred up and direct their anger away from the liars, thieves and idiots that are running and ruining the country.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34 - 'do you put your feet on the seating?
Nov 20th, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...animals.'
and what did your heroic civilised military do during their little occupation in 1982. shit in peoples homes ! .... animals !!
Little suggestion that you might wind your neck in with that comment.
Yeah Strange one. Reminiscent those old Soviet era slogans “workers of the world unite”
Nov 20th, 2014 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I had the great pleasure today of hearing the great Argentine Soprano; Susana Gilardoni Mirski give a free lunch time concert at St Mary Le Bow church on Cheapside in the City of London.
Her recital included songs by some great Argentine composers including: C. Lopez Buchario (Cancion del carretero), C. Guastavino (Mi gargarita), and Copia Numbers 1 and 6 by the father of Argentine classical composers L. Gianneo.
Astonishingly throughout the whole concert the phrase “Malvinas son Argentinas” was never referred to on a single occasion.
I guess the new policy isn’t designed to appeal to cultured, educated Argentines, only the ill-educated impoverished masses, like Kirchner voters.
Almost overnight the Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade was in full flower, and Senator Luna was enraptured to discover himself spearheading it. He had really hit on something. All the enlisted men and officers on combat duty had to sign a loyalty oath to get their map cases from the intelligence tent, a second loyalty oath to receive their flak suits and parachutes from the parachute tent, a third loyalty oath for Lieutenant Sallus, the motor vehicle officer, to be allowed to ride from the squadron to the airfield in one of the trucks. Every time they turned around there was another loyalty oath to be signed. They signed a loyalty oath to get their pay from the finance officer, to obtain their PX supplies, to have their hair cut by the Italian barbers. To Senator Luna, every senator who supported his Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade was a competitor, and he planned and plotted twenty-four hours a day to keep one step ahead. He would stand second to none in his devotion to country. When other officers had followed his urging and introduced loyalty oaths of their own, he went them one better by making every son of a bitch who came to his intelligence tent sign two loyalty oaths, then three, then four; then he introduced the pledge of allegiance, and after that ”Las Malvinas son Argentinas,” one chorus, two choruses, three choruses, four choruses. Each time Senator Luna forged ahead of his competitors, he swung upon them scornfully for their failure to follow his example. Each time they followed his example, he retreated with concern and racked his brain for some new stratagem that would enable him to turn upon them scornfully again.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0nobody here, except the ultra k and the imbeciles like you isleters, gives a shite for that iso logotype.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0//////////////
The point it, its happening in your country,
ORWELL 1984 perhaps
.
@55 Not much is going to happen here.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is socially handicapped with hordes of lazy toothless socialists who beleive this BS.
Then there are the other 30% of the country who work for a living like me and can't stand this government.
The logo “Malvinas are Argentine
Nov 20th, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Will be compulsory on all the following, by the new year,
buses , cars , lorries , shop windows , houses , flats , TVs and all electrical items , all new clothing , and foot wear,,
all livestock must be branded to stop the pirates from rustling them,
And all boats and planes,
All argentines travelling abroad must declare they are sons of the Malvinas,
[ and thus be proud to be deported ] back to the motherland.
By order of the empress of Argentina..
CFK-
I'm telling you - the sudden “youth” ( LA Campora Juvenil) craze will be tattoos !
Nov 20th, 2014 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone without a tattoo... well, why are they not proud to wear one, are they not 'patriotic'??
@74 Briton
Nov 20th, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your joke is a lot closer to becoming reality than you may realise.
Have a look at this PHOTO-Essay of images of Venezuela.
http://noticias.terra.com.co/mundo/el-foto-ensayo-de-los-ojos-de-hugo-chavez-en-venezuela,7facce2156594410VgnVCM3000009af154d0RCRD.html
The stencils/murals of Chavez stare down at you where-ever you are in Caracas and can be seen on walls across the country. On the water tanks, on Govt buildings and vehicles, at baseball games, on schoolbooks, on hoardings and street signs...
Some 'acolytes' even paint them INSIDE their own accommodation in order to remember that Chavez is watching over them, and judging them on their 'revolutionary commitment'.
Others put a small one on their house or shack to prevent harrassment by the neighourhood 'colectivos0 and 'motorizado' gangs...
This has become 'normalised' now.
Do have a look at the photos and tell me what you think
76 ilsen
Nov 20th, 2014 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I find this very scary.
btw, you have an email
@75
Nov 20th, 2014 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Check 'em out ...
https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1413&bih=801&q=malvinas+tattoo&oq=malvinas+tattoo&gs_l=img.3...3465.10533.0.11111.15.11.0.4.0.0.222.2126.0j8j3.11.0....0...1ac.1.58.img..5.10.1917.n8LdinLHt98#tbm=isch&q=malvinas+argentinas+tattoo
78 Hans
Nov 20th, 2014 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thx!!
Pretty soon, you will need one to 'prove' your commitment...
scary
sorry about the crap link,
Nov 20th, 2014 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0try this one
http://elpais.com/elpais/2014/10/22/album/1413993522_485213.html#1413993522_485213_1413993965
or just google ' los ojos de hugo chavez '
71 HansNiesund
Nov 20th, 2014 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aaaahhhh yes!! the great “Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade” from Catch 22 ( superb book by the way!!
I remember that “That Cunt Brown” was trying to get us to have a “British Citizenship” rather like the Oath of allegiance that they have to take in the US.
To prove that we where loyal British subject we would have to sing the national anthem whislt wearing the cross of St George and then, in groups, we would have to set fire to a corner shop and throw a couple of radicalized Muslims onto it......... Thankfully that idea never caught on.
Of course, they couldn't have done that with Nestor
Nov 20th, 2014 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have just re-read the article.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is utter madness. Do they really think that if the lie is repeated enough times it will become reality?
Domestic consumption is one matter, but they are going to put this on Aerolineas Argentinas and suffer international humiliation?
They do know they are going to be laughed at?
oh the shame! the shame!
83 ilsen
Nov 20th, 2014 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure they still think that:-
“If enough people repeat the lie, then the lie becomes the truth”
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.............................
@81
Nov 20th, 2014 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pertinent as ever. Now with a little necessary gender reassignment:
The more loyalty oaths a person signed, the more loyal he was; to Senator Luna it was as simple as that, and she had Secretary Filmus sign hundreds with her name each day so that she could always prove she was more loyal than anyone else.
“The important thing is to keep them pledging,” she explained to her cohorts. “It doesn’t matter whether they mean it or not. That’s why they make little kids pledge “Las Malvinas son Argentinas” even before they know what ‘pledge’ and ‘Malvinas’ means.”
To Captain Timerman and Stewardess Castro, the Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade was a glorious pain in the ass, since it complicated their task of organizing the crews for each Aerolineas flight. Men were tied up all over the airport signing, pledging and singing, and the flights took hours longer to get under way. Effective emergency action became impossible, but Captain Timerman and Hostess Castro were both too timid to raise any outcry against Senator Luna, who scrupulously enforced each day the doctrine of “Continual Reaffirmation” that she had originated, a doctrine designed to trap all those men who had become disloyal since the last time they had signed a loyalty oath the day before. It was Senator Luna who came with advice to Captain Timerman and Stewardess Castro as they pitched about in their bewildering predicament. She came with a delegation and advised them bluntly to make each passenger sign a loyalty oath before allowing them to fly Aerolineas.
“Of course, it’s up to you,” Senator Luna pointed out. “Nobody’s trying to pressure you. But everyone else is making them sign loyalty oaths, and it’s going to look mighty funny to La Campora if you two are the only ones who don’t care enough about your country to make them sign loyalty oaths, too. If you want to get a bad reputation, that’s nobody’s business but your own. All we’re trying to do is help.”
Brilliant pastiche HansN.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A funny, but unsettling piece of satire. Truth, as it has been said before, is often stranger than fiction...
Ilsen,
Nov 20th, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who can solve the riddle of the Argie psyche ??
They will never get the islands, and they know they are powerless, with a nasty big Penguin DEATHSTAR ”exactly 192 nm off their coast !
LOL !!
May the Farce be with them!
:-)
Troy,
Nov 20th, 2014 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How very true, you that one SPOT ON!
:-)
What will they do when they find the Stingray loitering incognito ?
;-)
@87 We have a seal team to deal with your penguins
Nov 20th, 2014 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1745212-por-que-hay-focas-que-quieren-copular-con-pinguinos
@89
Nov 20th, 2014 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those focas!
focas, focas, everywhere!
Nov 20th, 2014 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@91
Nov 20th, 2014 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0According to Cabeza Dura, it's all the fault of the penguins:
“PENGUINS have the most responsability as they do the selection. SEALS just want to stick it in.”
One penguin says to the other, “whats that on your face, oysters?”
Nov 20th, 2014 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“No” the other penguin replies, “I just blew a seal”
Those focas!
Nov 20th, 2014 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously they can't be taught respect and responsibilty from a very young age, can they? Is it because they can have all the responsiblity for money and employment but not for one of the most important roles in society? Maybe the SEALS are the true victims? I blame all those 'foreigners'....
To be serious, if they started putting 'safe-sex' messages on the buses etc. it would do a lot more good....
Now, back to what you were saying. It is not the focas, it is the lack of Fokkers, they feel so emasculated that they can't even get a Grip-on...
heheeehee...
bwahahaa!
*ooh, can't breathe* ... sorry, got to stop, think I have just PMSLing...
oops!
92.
Nov 20th, 2014 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Manginas ....Lol
94 PMSL
Nov 21st, 2014 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0... not surprised... 'harping' on about seals...
Stingray?
Yeah, they'll get another nasty Sting Missle right their Belgrano!!
Over the top nationalism is bad, Or……you can have another polar opposite extreme where a MP tweets a picture of a household flying national flags as a form of snobbish derogatory depiction of a constituency.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just some comments of the Guardian
“she is right though. UKIP is only nationalism. And authoritarianism of course.#”
“The ridiculous Twitter outrage machine wins again.”
“What has she done wrong exactly?
The sooner London becomes an independent City state and leaves dying places like Rochester to wallow in their own prejudices the better.“
“I am assuming - and hope - the flags were merely a relic from the recent football game. Otherwise there would be something more than a little bit demented about such a display, and I'm neither middle class nor a snob.”
Pot meet kettle, both Argentina and Britain are sick societies and screwed countries.
JMO
I'll start to worry when the UK passes a law that every public transport vehicle must have the number plate H982 FKL.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0heheehehehehehe!
Nov 21st, 2014 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@95 cd2 (scratched CD, just keeps r,rr,r,r,r,r,rr,, repeating!) Is that a new word you have learnt? Do you want a gold-star sticker to put in your school-book?
@96 Troy
lol! No need for a harpoon, they are already sunk...
If not, I am sure they are 'limping' back to the coast, blaming some-one else...
CD2 once said “ After reading ilsen's posts, I was so sick, I blew chunks...”
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Did anyone know that there is a street-dog that hangs around his shack..... by the name of Chunks?
Ilsen,
Nov 21st, 2014 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought “Chunks” was Maximo K !
99. Why he is a mangina a liberal lefty that panders the muslims.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0The idiot of HamasNiesund repeated twice
“How dare she argue with a chap who knows the circumstances of every teenage pregnancy in Latin America?”
When he knows the circumstances of anything himself. So ???
PS..Ohhh and Hamas, what about the East Jerusalem attacks you disgusting anti semitic pig??? I bet you must be happy now.
You keep on producing these news daily, http://news.sky.com/story/1376849/extremism-fears-over-leading-state-school You produce these stories in your tabloids everyday, it never stops, it only gets worse and worse.
99. No I didn't.
@101
Nov 21st, 2014 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are we done with your sexual inadequacies, then, if we're back to the Muslims now?
102. Lefty, pro muslim, mangina, pmsl.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did you ever care to ask why are there so many teenage pregnancies , honor crimes, arranged marriages in the Muslim community under your own nose before pointing fingers at Argentina and Latam, ehhhh ???
Do you know how many potential suicide bombers the people of Gaza produce in their teens ????
F. king lefty hypocrite. Scum...
yup, cd2 has gone off the reservation..... I knew if the pressure mounted, he would blow a gasket.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rather than his favourite cur, that is....... or even blow Maximo!
oh dear! (*crying with laughter*)
NB: (*hat-tip* Troy, funny new name for Fat Max, Chunks! quite suitable :)
Anyhoos;
Now we are diversifying into the Middle East, a tiny section of British culture, and “F. king lefty hypocrite. Scum...” type insults.
I am deeply disappointed with you CabezaDura2.
Any info on the topic?
Are you really supporting the new decals on your National Airline?
Even the Germans will be sniggering when you get into Frankfurt..
Perhaps you unwell? Do you need to talk about the Muslims again?
*concerned, slightly patronising face :-/*
as always, your (not so) darling, ilsen
xx
NB: For such a m.cho, he still doesn't have the fucking balls to swear properly, the cunting wank-badger, (and I do love a good swear, I do, maybe I'm, a slut? *giggle*)
:)
@103
Nov 21st, 2014 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, I see what you mean. Who do these Muslims think they are, right? Nice Latin American BOYS who just want to stick it in? And shame the GIRLS, if they ever do manage to get their leg over? Heaven forbid they should follow your values and honour system.
And aren't you in the least concerned who's fucking whose penguins?
ilsen was quite charitable just sending you back to 1953.
104.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can nag at me, blaspheme and bully me as much as you like, who is the coward??? I simply dont swear to you fully cause I know you are going to call in the censorship button.
Basically It means you are a bunch of lefty hypocrites. As simple as that. Why dont you concern yourself with victims that suffer from real abuse in your own country both muslim and none muslim ones, instead of those who make a choice and have a choice that determines their lives like the irresponsible teenage mothers of Argentina?? Those raped girls in Rotherham didn't have a choice. The teenage girls of Argentina do.
And that if you dont mind is a pretty powerful point.
@106
Nov 21st, 2014 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0umm... no, it is not “a pretty powerful point”.
1) it is massively off-topic
2) it is not the concern of a site that professes to be about S.Am./South Atlantic, you might as well talk about rape in India
3) I never press the “censorship button”
4) As for the “the irresponsible teenage mothers of Argentina” you have said on another thread that they should be 'shamed' and the boys killed. That doesn't actually resolve the current situation nor it is such a great plan for the future is it? Kill men and shame women? Who are you really? The Spanish Inquisition? That Catholic is more deeply inbedded in your own psyche than you realise.
Please don't concern yourself with a few local issues in a country that certainly doesn't even notice your own whole country.
Anyway, back on topic.
Are you really going to allow Aerolineas Argentinas to fly with that crap painted on the planes?
Won't you just cringe in embarrassment?
Cabeza Dura:
Nov 21st, 2014 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just say NO to foreigners. Your life will be purer, and better.
Well it seems you are a coward that likes throwing a stone and hiding the hand. No, you trully are a coward. Really.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 01:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0So was off topic Seals mating with penguins for that matter. You had to gang up with HamasNiesund, you couldnt resist could you??
I give rats f.ck what this site professes to be about as if it was a border line that is ever crossed here, and Im certainly not going to be ordered by such as you what to talk about and what not to talk about
No, ilsen YOU ARE A LEFTY HYPOCRIT. You trully are.
“Please don't concern yourself with a few local issues in a country that certainly doesn't even notice your own whole country.”
I guess that applies when I say things that really touch a nerve, because unlike Think, paulcedron or whoever, you are pretty much happy to answer back whenever they talk about UK issues, which is the only topics they talk about.
But Im not them I'm I?? I can really hurt and know how to hit back
You have no right to point fingers at Argentina over teenage mothers, look at your own front doors what is going on. I do know what is going on in mine.
Those raped girls in Rotherham didn't have a choice. The teenage girls of Argentina do.
yup, he has lost the plot.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sad indictment. Is there any decent intelligent Argentine left worth talking to? Not enough show up, often enough, really.
“ I can really hurt and know how to hit back”
oh please do try to get that massive ego under control, oh can't you? Does when I engage a little, you just can't stop yourself, just a violent dog, are you?
Why do you want to hurt another person? Are you really so frustrated and self-hating that you wish to hurt others?
1773 more like.... I was generous with 1953,
ilsen.
PS: HansN is a beautiful, educated, intelligent, young, fit, wonderful caring individual and a prince amongst men.
(possibly, I have no idea really!)
now watch the fireworks...
(cue massive insecure , jealous, retaliation because CD2's ego thinks I maybe interested in him*)
hahaha!
“it seems you are a coward that likes throwing a stone and hiding the hand”
Or am better at debating, and exposing your so-called arguments for the fallacies that they are?
You even have to chase me down on this thread because you lost the argument elsewehere.
Any more news on the new stencils? 'ojos de cristina' on every high-rise? on every public building?
Good Luck, Winston Smith.
best regards,
ilsen
xx
*(little bit of sick at the back of my throat at the very idea)
110.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Plain idiotic... Go to bed ilsen, its about 3 am in the morning in London.
I rest my case in 106 & 109
111- Cabeza Dura, no te mortifiques con estos bolsones. This entire thread was a mirror of the fear that these Falk people have, they know that Argentina has been winning the diplomatic front for a while now. If you note historically, a low IQ is coupled with aggression, something many of these bloggers have. The only reason that LATAM underage sex has become the topic is because nobody wants to A) touch an English woman and B) the UK is so liberal that the Church of England has lost its path from the Catholics that I think it is ordained to have pre marital sex or extramarital; I can't remember, let's ask the Enlish Princes.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0112 Sallus
Nov 21st, 2014 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0“...low IQ... ”
As usual , no argument, and so now you turn to insults - its all you have, apart from denouncing us to the Inquisition.
Is the Catholic Church the excuse you use for demonizing women and trampling on their rights ?
“Lost Malvinas” - Lost cause!
Nov 21st, 2014 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can't believe #112 thinks that the UK being liberal is an insult.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@110 ilsen
Nov 21st, 2014 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Got me in one there, expect you left out modest.
@109 Cabeza Dura 2
Sorry, but I'm still struggling with the logic here. It's quite excusable for Latam male catholics to be going round sticking it in like seals, because Latam girls are sluts, but it's not OK for British Muslims to be going round sticking it in like seals because British girls aren't sluts? Is that it? How come there are all these sluts in Latam anyway? Is it the climate or something? The food, maybe? Is there maybe a world league table of sluts somewhere, like the Corruption Index?
@112
Now this is also interesting. I thought that peculiar strain of Catholic social fascism that gave the world Franco, Salazar, the Phalange, and any number of devout Latam electrode wielders had pretty much fizzled out, but apparently there are still remnants of it around. But I guess it's not hard to see how such a thing could give rise to that other faith-based cult, Malvinismo.
116
Nov 21st, 2014 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Those raped girls in Rotherham didn't have a choice. The teenage girls of Argentina do. ”
What logic are you struggling with in that sentance??? Are you the son of your maternal grandfather???
@117
Nov 21st, 2014 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I see. Thanks for the clarification. So in your estimation, it is excusable for Latam male catholics to be going round sticking it in like seals, because Latam girls are sluts, but it's not OK for British Muslims to be going round sticking it in like seals, because British girls aren't sluts.
Now would you mind awfully answering the other question I asked? How come there are all these sluts in Latin America?
Snoozebox Holdings are to provide a Temporary 80 room hotel for Premier Oil company to be ready 1 Feb 2015
Nov 21st, 2014 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0No mention of location but one has to consider the following
1) Tempopary housing for 80 on land
2) Premier oil drilling in the FALKLANDS March/April
Must be for the FALKLANDS
Let's get the show on the road.
118. Hamas Niesund
Nov 21st, 2014 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Those latam males didn't rape the teens that got pregnant at least in the vast majority of cases and in Argentina you can get a authorization by a judge to get an abortion in case of rape. The British Muslims DID rape. And there is no way you can alter that simple fact.
We dont order them to sit in different places on the bus, we dont prohibit them from owning property, we dont stone them to death, we allow them to drive and do sports, we dont order them to ware a sheet over their bodies.
Why dont you concern yourself with the treatment of women in your own country instead of Latam??
It's just breathtaking stupidity these British liberal farts have
@120
Nov 21st, 2014 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I've never actually said or suggested any of these things. I'm only asking how it is that Latam Catholic males have got this licence to go round sticking it in like seals, (willy-nilly, so to speak), and how come there are so many sluts in Latin America?
They're quite simple questions, really, and I will readily admit I have some difficulty with the response that it's apparently all because of Muslims in the UK.
I didn't realise rape only occurred in some countries.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@122
Nov 21st, 2014 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently it's because there's an uneven distribution of sluts
121. HamasNiesund.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where did I say that they have a licence ?? My point is that women have the power of selection, its biology, women do the selection in most of the animal kingdom. Males are always on heat. Females get to choose from a large range of sperm donors so it is imperative that they pick correctly what they do and to whom they want to be with.
“I'm only asking how it is that Latam Catholic males have got this licence to go round sticking it in like seals”
Because irresponsable low class girls in Latam let them do so. As simple as that.
And there isn't such thing as catholic males and females, nobody goes to church anyway.
Im pretty sure british teens are as just as slutty, the difference is that they dont want to catch a specific guy with a kid.
And that you focus on Argentina and alledge supposed ill treatment to women when women are treated like cattle under your very nose, again it makes you a HYPOCRIT, why is this so hard for you to understand?? Retard
In Argentina they have guards and high walls and barb wire around schools, otherwise the kids would get kidnapped, raped and killed.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0In Cordoba they have a memorial plaque in st.Artuto Bas -park which says: this and this kid was kidnapped from this park and was never found..
Always photos of missing girls on post.
Nice country.
@124
Nov 21st, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Any word yet on David Attenborough doing a programme on mating behaviour in Argentina?
*on posts*
Nov 21st, 2014 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0126.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Non substance minutiae. Very “Think”
@128
Nov 21st, 2014 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny you should mention that other misogynist.
76 ilsen
Nov 21st, 2014 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the image,
Eeerrrie..
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I refer to my post @119 I have heard that on the sides of units for this hotel they are going to have the slogan “ Los FALKLANDS son Ingles ” but could be wrong. LOL
Nov 21st, 2014 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@112 Sallus
Nov 21st, 2014 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should learn the rules here before making boludeces remarks. ¡Nabo!
I almost checked the calendar to make sure it wasn't 1st April...
Nov 21st, 2014 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then I remembered it was a story out of Argentina, and put the calendar down.
132 Gordiflon - I guess is it ok to make off colored remarks if the target is from Argentina, Catholic or LATAM, then it is ok, right whitie? In these parts Nabo means diddley squat, more widely recognized as Rabo or in your case Culo.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmmm, no requirement to put the same sign in limousines, but perhaps the countries elite have already bought the cool aid.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please, please, please my one prayer for Argentina is that they don't put the “Malvinas son Argentinas” sign over the “brake when approaching station” sign in the drivers cab.
@27. Do be assured. The Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands will NEVER belong to argieland. Even if Russia/China launched a massive nuclear attack, the last Brit would be on the Falklands pissing on argieland until it drowns.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34. Weak, Pablo, weak. Notice that it's PUBLIC transport? WE own it. Do you own anything? See, we pay for things. You could start by paying your debts.......... Thieves! Even animals understand debt. Never mind, it's the vet for you. To be put down!
@41. Hi Simon. Good to hear from you again. Tell us who has the money to have all these notices printed and pasted up? Is there a fine for not complying? Who are the IOUs to be made out to?
@58. Actually, a 'logo' is a graphic mark, emblem, or symbol. Perhaps, one day, you'll get a grip on another word....education!
@64. You're kidding. Argieland has actually created a 'Ministry of Truth', a la 'Minitrue'?
@73. Then why don't you go out and start shooting? Even the odds. The 30% you say are like you represent more than 12 million people. And how many will oppose you? Nothing worthwhile is obtained without sacrifice. Over the last thousand years, Britain has sacrificed much. WE understand. Think about '82. Why did WE win? On 28 May 1982, Lieutenant-Colonel Herbert Jones, commanding officer of 2 Battalion, Parachute Regiment, charged an entrenched argie position. He was killed and was awarded the Victoria Cross, posthumously. Because the action he took was necessary. Because he was British. Because he understood the privilege of being British. Why do WE go up against superior forces and WIN? OUR heritage! What's your heritage?
@106. Why don't you admit to being a fool? British victims vs argie slags!
@109. Hilarious. CD2 thinks that girls being forced in Rotherham are worse than argie whores spreading their legs willingly. It's easy to get argie slags to spread. Wave a dollar bill. Argies even change sex to get laid. 50 a day? And that's just the amateurs!
“Malvinas are Argentine”, mandatory in all Argentine public transport systems
Nov 21st, 2014 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, yes, yes...........We are all impressed............. ( yawn )
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30149799
“But no sign can change the rights of the Falkland islanders to their own identity and we are determined to uphold that right,” a spokesman added.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and who the fuck cares about the identity of the isleters?
they can be whatever they want; english, chinese, chilotes, you choose.
the issue here is the sovereignty of the islets, and that cannot be decided by a bunch of squaters, unilaterally.
it would be as if a bunch of thieves could determine if they are guilty or not.
that joke of referendum = not valid as an argument.
and who the fuck cares about the identity of the isleters
Nov 21st, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[ and one wonders why they want nothing to do with you people, ]
the issue here is the sovereignty of the islets, and that cannot be decided by a bunch of squatters--
[ and we wholeheartedly agree with you, that's why you should take it to the ICJ ]
the sooner the better,
then one would not have to put up with the islanders or worry over the sovereignty anymore,
seeing as the sovereignty will remain with the islanders full stop..lol
still,
we could be wrong, so the sooner CFK it to the ICJ, the sooner we will all find out.
mm
138 pelotudos boy Paulie
Nov 21st, 2014 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WOW!!! you like to be in there straight away with the wrong answer don't you?
Normally people arn't so eager to show off their ignorance and racism but you just jump right on in there don't you?
Who better to show off what it is to be a “product of the city of Buenos Aires” ???
If they are all like you, the kindest thing we could do is to turn the whole city into a boating lake.
Clown x 2
The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth,?
Nov 21st, 2014 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But-
If you are clever and manipulative you can stretch twist and make a lie look like the truth,
She and, her government knows,
, the whole world knows,
Along with the UN and the ICJ they all know the Truth,
You have no rights to the Falklands, never had and never will,
But will she ever take it to the ICJ and prove she is right,,
Go on, be a devil-take it to the ICJ
And prove we are wrong….
Chuckles wuckles…lol
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140 toonabotothinkproperly
Nov 21st, 2014 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i think i already told ya, but again: try to focus on the subject not on the posters, you toonabo.
not a single word referred to it.
very, very poor indeed.
and it is pelotudous for you, you polyglot, LOL
142 pelotudos boy Paulie
Nov 21st, 2014 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“i think i already told ya, but again: try to focus on the subject not on the posters”
Ha, ha, ha!!! much LOLz!!!
so should you!!! Try taking your own advice!! Having seen some of your more pathetic posts on some of the other stories on this site, I think I'll give this one a go:-
“and who the fuck cares about the identity of the isleters”
The islanders themselves, and as they are the ONLY ones who matter, you had better f**k off.
“the issue here is the sovereignty of the islets, and that cannot be decided by a bunch of squaters, unilaterally”
Exactly!! could not agree with you more!! When are you going to give argentina back to it's rightful owners? You bunch of thieves!! You stole the land from the native Indians and all but murdered the lot of them!!
You want to talk about sovereignty?? Give the land back to the Indians, pay them reparations for people you murdered. When you've done that AND ONLY when you've done that, take the Falklands question to the ICJ or shut the f**k up, and f**k off while you are doing it.
Clown x 3
“ Give the land back to the Indians, pay them reparations for people you murdered.”
Nov 21st, 2014 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0says the english wannabe...LOL
england has been murdering 3/4 of the world and stealing lands during its whole, sad existence.
so, return all the lands to their real owners (malvinas, northern ireland, gibraltar, chagos, the list goes on and on), pay the compensations for those massive killings (ireland, south africa, germany, u.s., australia, india, pakistan, the list goes on and on), crimes and lootings and then we will see if you can talk.
@112 Sallus
Nov 21st, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“This entire thread was a mirror of the fear that these Falk people have, they know that Argentina has been winning the diplomatic front for a while now”
I doubt the Falkland Islanders are scared of a country that has to indoctrinate its own people in a style reminiscent of Hitler or Stalin.
Next you'll be putting these posters up on the inside of train cabs and cockpits of aircraft to achieve total indoctrination, 'Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer!”
But please don't stop there.
Why not put these cartoons on the inside of all car windscreens too?
When the trains, aircraft and cars crash, at least you will be happy that all the drivers and pilots will have gone to their death believing the Falklands are theirs.
Argentina will do anything except what it actually needs to do to have a chance of getting the Falklands.
1. Convince the Falkland Islanders why it is better for them to be Argentine than British or Independent.
2. Go to the ICJ.
3. Invade the Falkland Islands and take them by force.
If your own people have to be indoctrinated like this, clearly they don't all believe that the Falkland Islanders should be colonised by Argentina.
Argentina's diplomatic front has sold its lie to South American countries and tinpot countries like Syria and Iran.
That's diplomatic success?
144 pelotudos boy Paulie
Nov 21st, 2014 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“says the english wannabe...LOL”
Stick to the subject pelotudos boy Paulie and “try to focus on the subject not on the posters”.................LOL
You murder almost the entire native population of your country and then accuse the 3,00 peace-loving inhabitants of Falkland Islands of being “bunch of squatters”.
PROJECTION!!!!!
But just to bring you up to speed nabo boy, Gibraltar was given to us by the Spanish and is rightfully ours.............. look it up pelotudos boy, do your homework and try, please TRY for once, just once to get something right.
Clown x 4
P:S :- I am not an english wannabe, I am English. Do YOU know what you wannabe? Or are you too much of a pelotudos boy to know even that?
@144 poorcedron
Nov 21st, 2014 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0your brenvy (brit+envy) is showing more and more every day. It's pathetic. It really, really is.
TWIMC
Nov 21st, 2014 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bit out of topic but great news for Argentina .....:
“The United States judicial system may turn out to have greatly overreached its authority and be forced to back down.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/21/business/international/in-argentinas-debt-case-no-winners-but-a-lot-of-losers.html?_r=0
Chuckle, chuckle and.................... chuckle...
- I am not an english wannabe, I am English.
Nov 21st, 2014 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0says the pelotudou...lol
then it is even worse, you forrou.
your ancestors are responsible of the creation of modern slavery, concentration camps, ethnic cleansing and massive killings.
they were the same shite as hitler, but for you, pelotudo x 1 million, churchill, “lord” kitchener, cecil rhodes and the other scum are like heroes .
Yeah read the article and didn't find any good news for Argentina.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps people should read the article instead of just the headline.
@150 anglotino
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was gonna say the same thing.
The quality of these trolls has really gone downhill lately. It's like they're not even trying anymore.
The British with the help of their allies, have always intervened in our affairs, like an older controlling brothere. For example, in 1846, when our soldiers surrounding Montevideo where about to finally bring the Uruguayan defenders and several foreign mercenaries to their knees, the British reinforced the capital with the 73rd (Perthshire) Regiment of Foot. The French government sent 6,000 men from the French Foreign Legion to defend Uruguay and part of this force crossed the border and were soon marching towards Buenos Aires. Fortunately Paris realizing it was going to be a repeat of the British 1807 invasion of Buenos Aires, entered into secret negotiations with the Argentine government and averted disaster. Maybe it was a good thing, or a bad thing, but we lost Uruguay or “Banda Oriental” as we called it then in the process.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0148 Think
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Misleading headline there Mr.Think....nothing new....
Read it in anticipation of sticking YB with lots of glib “I told you so's”....
You let me down....
No fun tonight....;-(
(153) Mr. Voice
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are making the same mistake as Skip....
“The United States judicial system may turn out to have greatly overreached its authority and be forced to back down.”... is not “A Headline”...
It is the central paragraph of this Mainstream Anglo Press article basically telling us that Argentina has largely been unaffected by this Yankee judicial overreach...
And that, in the eyes of this humble Patagon, constitutes good news....
McCool
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I blame it on the lack of a proper diet due to chronic inflation and the inability of government handouts to keep up.
It's probably only a matter of time till bob geldoff and friends sing a song for them..
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Paul - don't listen to toooldtodie young; he is a blatant liar in what he posts and pulls whatever out of the air to cyber bully. I totally busted him on some other thread and he completely denied it.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0145 - Pete - This is way beyond the anonymous post of a bias cyber post and it has been around for almost two hundred years, just a matter of time. Just make sure that you and your 1500 cohorts are packed and ready to go. I am sure that Argentina is nothing like the Imperial English that subjugated 80% of the world and made slaves of them or like the Germans that placed people in ovens..that is a European tradition. Argentina will be much more benign, more like stop paying your taxes to the crown and stay if you like, leave just as well.
sallus
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0totally agree about tooimbecile.
another not too bright isleter and counting
148. An opinion piece is “great news for Argentina”
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahahaha
Stupid commies don't understand how the world works.
“subjugated 80% of the world” Wow! That is impressive. Kudos to the British.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another deluded Argentine that say it is just a matter of time until they can get the Falkland Islands.
How many years has it been now?
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Nov 22nd, 2014 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah I remember that idiot Jones....they reckon he was shot in the back by his own men....he was known as a reckless liability and had done the same kind of stupid thing in exercises....several times....
It was all hush hush at the time.....but the word was his men were not going to let that lunatic get them killed....
He was definitely shot in the back and neck....
160 - Anglotino - go ahead and try that subjugation stuff now, let's see how far that gets you. You must be proud to have spawned by slavers and murderers.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Try subjugating who? 80% of the planet? Or the 20% that wasn't?
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 03:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where did you get such bull sh!t numbers from? Your arse?
My colonial heritage is the same as your colonial heritage. Built on the dispossession of the original inhabitants of the land.
I think this thread proves once on for all the foreigners' hatred of Argentina.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Case closed. End of thread. Thank you for partaking in this test group study.
162# “You must be proud to have spawned by slavers and murderers.”
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Slaves and murderers’ indeed! Modern Australia was established by the hard work of British convicts, felons of their day who were tried, sentenced and transported by some of the finest legal minds in Britain. These people laid the foundations of one of the richest and most successful countries in the world. Do I need to draw a comparison between us and Argentina? No, not necessary. Your lot were spawned by Spanish colonialism and look where you are today!
164 Troll in The Dark
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I think this thread proves once on for all the foreigners' hatred of Argentina.”
waa, waa, waa!!! mummy, mummy all the other kids at school aren't playing nice, make them stop................
All this thread proves is that La Campora is really scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to the “trolls” on this site.
You've got pelotudos boy Paulie calling everyone else “not too bright” Bwah, ha, ha, ha!!!!!
and Sallus, well...... there is just no challenge there AT ALL
and Voice, calling into question the bravery of British troops ( again Bwah, ha, ha, ha!!!!! )
I think that La Campora wanted some trolls for this forum, couldn't find any and then had to settle for ( I would say 2nd best but this lot...... 10th 11th best maybe ) this bunch. When they find a lost cause, boy do they commit to it don't they?
Not much to call is there, they all could lose a game of noughts and crosses to a plank of wood.
So I'll go with McCool at 151 and Anglotino at 150. They have obviously started recruiting the lower IQ types..............
@157
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0In recorded history there have been something like 70 empires, in every time period, every culture, and on every land mass. It's one of the ways us chimpanzees have organised ourselves historically, although some would claim to have learned better in recent times.
It's quite remarkable on the other hand how Malvinistas are so obsessed with one of the few that was largely mercantile in character, yet remain oblivious to the one they descend from themselves, probably the most rapacious and genocidal there has been after the Mongols, and that is still struggling to adapt to the modern world.
Given the condition of public transport in Argentina one would think that there were more important priorities, such as safety on the roads and railways.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0On the other hand, good, honest Peronists with no skills but lots of enthusiasm can have publically-subsidised jobs for life installing and maintaining these signs.
161#
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ Yeah I remember that idiot Jones....”
Oh! So you ‘remember’ him do you? Personal friend was he?
Here is a very short summary of Colonel Jones’ actions on the day he was killed:
Heavily outnumbered as they were, 2 Para’s victory over the Argentines at Goose Green was one of the decisive battles of the Falklands war. Before he was killed, Colonel Jones set this victory up. He then displayed the sort of courage that the paras are famous for when he gave his life in a successful attempt to reinvigorate the stalled attack. No 2 para overcame an Argentine garrison of around 1200 soldiers.
You can access and read the citation that went with his VC if you care to, but I doubt that you will, you must not let the facts get in the way of your vile, view of the world, and yes I know that there is a dissenting view regarding his judgment on that day, but that in no way diminishes Colonel Jones’s achievement, in fact it enhances his reputation.
The only idiot in this discussion is you. It’s one thing to support a cause or country, but to denigrate a fallen soldier in the way you have is reprehensible. Besides, what gives you the right to criticise the professional judgement of a soldier and leader? Have you been educated in military ways at a prestigious military academy? Have you charged a few enemy trenches? No of course you haven’t, you are just a nasty, pathetic piece of work. You are so stupid you couldn’t find your way to the bus stop.
You are an embarrassment to yourself, decent people, who are unfortunate enough to know you probably cross the street when they see you approaching them.
@152
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0A fine piece of Argentinidad there. The British assisting the defenders of another country from Argentine assault constitutes interference in Argentine affairs, while a French invasion of Argentina is all the fault of the Brits.
Rumours going round Buenos Aires :
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0The next piece of bonkers legislation is that all schoolgirls will have to wear white handkerchieves on their heads and all kids will have to sing the “ March Montonera ” .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixQBESG64lw
Seriously , when does all this madness end ?
Next piece of legislation, all Argentine hookers will have to provide free services to Malvinas War Veterans. Working Girls are expecting to be bankrupted by 20 Million non paying customers and Argentina has effectively destroyed the only industry it has that still works.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0169
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great logic you have there fuckwit...
...“Oh! So you ‘remember’ him do you? Personal friend was he?”
WTF was your point....?
I also remember English Princess Diana getting shagged by an Islamic follower, strangely enough I wasn't their friend either....
You can Wiki as much as you want, but I still remember that stupid idiot getting shot in the back....it was never proved where the shots came from.....but the big clue is ...“in the back”......you figure....
As a Johnny foreigner....you wouldn't remember all the bad press he got at the time would you....
“Have you been educated in military ways at a prestigious military academy?”
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You forget, Downundwer. Courses at Argentine military academies consist of coups for beginners, basic electrode attachment, rape and throwing people out of he;licopters.
Email me when new comments are posted.
Sallus=Stevie
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just wait for the breakdown.
@174 The first military coup in Argentina in 1930 was in response to the wave of anarchist-communist violence that saw a great part of Buenos Aires burned to the ground in 1919, the rape and pillage in Santa Cruz Province in 1922, the bombing of US banks, the Italian and Spanish consulates, and the attempted assassinations of three Argentine presidents between 1908 and 1929, and violent strikes that crippled the Argentine economy in 1918. In the early 1900s Argentina took pride of place in having a top economy along with Australia and Canada, but the anarchist-communist thugs soon threw a spanner in the works. Their hatred passed down in their children and grandchildren, and Argentine cities in 1975 witnessed “a political killing every five hours and a bomb explosion every three hours.” (Latin America's Cold War, Hal Brands, p. 110) The ERP and Montoneros terrorists attacked 45 military barracks and countless police stations, and took over a large part of Tucuman Province in 1975, declaring it an independent communist state. The Chilean MIR, Bolivian ELN and Uruguayan Tupamaros guerrillas had planned to join their Argentine guerrilla comrades in the mountains and jungles of Tucuman, but the March 1976 military coup in Argentina spoiled their plans. What did you expect the Argentine military to do? In the week before the coup, the Montoneros killed 13 Policemen as part of their Kill A Cop Offensive. At that rate some 3,000 Argentine policemen would've have been killed by decade's end.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0173 Voice
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“but I still remember that stupid idiot getting shot in the back....it was never proved where the shots came from.....”
WOW!! there is no getting through or round your denial is there? mind you, as is being proven day after day, there is no shifting argentinian stupidity.
To bring you back to the real world ( where the rest of us are ), it WAS proven where the shots came from, as told by Colonel Jones’s driver, Sgt Beresford, who spotted the trench where the shooting came from AND shouted the warning to him as well.
I would say “educate yourself” but I doubt your attention span is that long. Still, this is worth a watch for anyone who is not brainwashed by their government:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgmos0Q6xK0
176 Alberto
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks Alberto. That was an interesting post about the history up to the coup.
-75 YB
In relation to Albertos post @176, The previous incarnation of Sallus, Stevie, used to pretend to be a 'proud' TUPA, an “anarchist, but not a Communist”.
He seemed to think it was awfully clever to be a Terrorist for that is what they were.
If Stevie/Sallus were a Supa Tupa, as he claimed, that would make him about the same age as Pepe... and we all know how his story changed...
@161 Voice,
“Yeah I remember that idiot Jones.. ”
Conqueror's point was a valid one - the British Military, and the Brits themselves, would go to whatever lengths, through all adversity, to defeat a foe that had invaded British land and taken British civilians.
A foe that should have had overwhelming military advantages, if they had the fortitude and skill to use them.
That was Conqueror's point.
I don't know what yours was, except the usual, “watch me bait these people by saying something snide, and showing how clever I am”
The way you chose to do it was the worst possible.
You've shown yourself to be nothing more than a sh!t.
Whatever you try to say about Jones, he was 100 times the man you are.
Well, that's enough talking about Voice - an amoral attention-seeking whore.
@ 178 Troy Tempest
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Excellent post apart from one thing.
I try never to compare an arsehole like Voice with anybody in the UK, it just gives them undeserved attention and inspires them to more farcical comment.
AND, yes I know, I often fail: GRRR! ;o)
3000 dead policemen would have been horrible
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 030000 + dead and disappeared is horrific if that was the “cure” it was worse than the disease.
CBE son of Falklands hero Colonel 'H' Jones says father would be 'proud'
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11246187/CBE-son-of-Falklands-hero-Colonel-H-Jones-says-father-would-be-proud.html
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Is Argentina's Falklands secretary the ultimate minister without portfolio?
Daniel Filmus is a man on a mission - a mission to promote world peace. But, as Argentina's Falklands secretary tells Harriet Alexander, it's a message of peace he won't actually be taking to the disputed islands
He is responsible for a territory his country does not own, and which he has not yet visited - and may never do so.
No colonies last forever,“ he told The Telegraph last week
the only reason that Argentina has revived its historic claim to the islands is to distract its populace from its own economic woes. That, the Falklands may have oil reserves that may one day prove commercially viable to exploit.
Roger Edwards, chair of the Falklands Islands legislative assembly, said Mr Filmus would ”be very welcome
But
No,” said Mr Filmus
He fears that Mr Edwards might be secretly plotting to kidnap him. Instead, he says he is unable to speak to the inhabitants because the United Nations prohibits it – a stance has caused bafflement in London,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11246187/CBE-son-of-Falklands-hero-Colonel-H-Jones-says-father-would-be-proud.html
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181 Briton
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha!! this line says it all:-
“Daniel Filmus is a man on a mission - a mission to promote world peace. But, as Argentina's Falklands secretary tells Harriet Alexander, it's a message of peace he won't actually be taking to the disputed islands”
The argentine mentality...........................Bwah, ha, ha,ha!!!!
Ha ha,
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the frightened always give an excuse why they wont look over their supposed territory,, that they don't actually own.
they would look totally utterly stupid if the islanders arrested him and tossed him out of his very own territory lolol
@183
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think that the FALKLANDS Government ought to invite Filmus to the Islands and listen to what he has to say and then tell him to fuck off
@184
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They did invite him, only he said that the UN wouldn't allow him to speak to the islanders.
180
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm afraid the often quoted number of 30,000 disappeared is a big fat lie. It is a result of a New York Times article written by journalist David Vidal, published on 5 January 1979 (see Dirty War, Wikipedia). In the article Relatives Of Missing Latins Press Drive For Accounting; 30,000 Reported Missing, Vidal made the claim that 30,000 people had disappeared throughout South America, not just in Argentina. Human rights groups in Argentina soon seized on the opportunity to distort the truth and started making claims that the 30,000 disappeared were Argentine nationals. Prior to the New York Times article US intelligence sources, Amnesty International and human rights groups in Argentina estimated that 6,000-15,000 Argentines had disappeared. The real number of disappeared killed in armed gun battles or in detention camps is around 13,000 and this list includes 5,000 ERP and 5,000 Montoneros terrorists. According to Deborah Norden in her book Military Rebellion In Argentina: Between Coups And Consolidation the list of Argentine “disappeared” includes 1,500 killed at the hand of the ERP, Montoneros and other left-wing guerrillas, but of course this is conveniently overlooked by the Argentine leftist press even though it was first mentioned in the 1983 edition of NUNCA MAS. We should also remember that about 8,600 of the “disappeared” according to the book Behind the Disappearances: Argentina's Dirty War Against Human Rights and the United Nations, emerged alive and well from the various detention camps, but ofcourse John Dinges in the book The Condor Years chose to ignore this when he claimed to have discovered an official intelligence document supposedly confirming that 22,000 Argentines had disappeared (implying they were never seen again) between 1975 and 1978. This document was published in his book and received much attention in the international press. But if we subtract 8,600 from the Dinges claim of 22,000 disappeared, that leaves us with 13,500 Argen
@186
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0So your military didn't keep a proper record of the people they killed? I guess you could understand that if they were fully aware they were committing a crime, but if they they believed they were fighting an honourable war in defence of the nation, why wouldn't they keep an accurate tally of casualties?
Did the British Army keep a record of the Communist terrorists and their supporters among the civilian population killed during the Malayan Emergency (6,700 killed) between 1948 and 1960 and the Mau Mau Uprising (12,000-20,00 killed) between 1952 and 1960??? Also what about the crimes against the Irish people? According to “ Bloody Sunday soldiers could be prosecuted with anonymous witnesses” (By Tom Whitehead, Security Editor, The Telegraph, May 2014, available online) British paratroopers could be spending time in prison for shooting unarmed civilians during “Bloody Sunday” It is also worth mentioning that British paratroopers also committed war crimes in the 1982 War between Argentina and Britain, killing six captured conscripts on Mount Longdon: Privates Gramisci, Ferreyra, Quintana, Mosconi, Petrucelli and Maidana. (see Juliana Solanas Pacheco's book Malvinas: Y ahora-- que? ). According to Hugh McManner's book The Scars of War, Private David Parr from 2 Para collected the ears of Argentine soldiers at Goose Green, and Corporal McLaughlin from 3 Para did the same thing on Mount Longdon.
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0@188
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I see. So if the British military committed crimes, that means the Argentine military didn't?
'Excesses' are committed by all armies, but to lambast the Argentine military without acknowledging the crimes of the British forces is a ridiculous thing to do.
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0189 Hans
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, Alberto has mentioned a couple of incidents committed by angry individuals retaliating for indignities against British civilians during an Argentine invasion ?
Compare that to the wholesale policy of the Argentine Military Command to intimidate and degrade the British civilians.
Individuals acts, not sanctioned vs official policy - nice!!
Alberto Bertorelli:
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0The problem is that the methods used- widespread, almost random- torture, rape and murder- to suppress the insurgency were
continue....
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0@190
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor, poor Argentina! It's so terribly unfair that the poor, poor junta has been accused of the torture and murder of more people than the thousands it actually did torture and murder.
Alberto Bertorelli is absolutely right in his synopsis of the Dirty War .
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0In the same way the K government makes up figures about economic performance , inflation etc, the figure of 30,000 disappeared is simply grabbed out of thin air .The true figure is about 7,500 .
In 1975 there were approximately 10,000 armed guerrillas in Argentina , supported by a network of thirty thousand sympathisers who would provide everything from medical aid ( the famous Flying French nuns ) to safe houses and propaganda ( the so called schoolchildren in the night of the pencils , most of whom were 18 or over )
These guerillas were attempting to brutally overthrow a legally elected constitutional government ( Juan Peron's ) which had won with over 50% of the vote .
The military took over in 1976 and all out war broke out for 18 months .
Many of the hard core guerillas left for exile in France , the UK , Mexico and Cuba . Some served as mercenaries in El Salvador . The rest, including a lot of the support element perished . Tough tit .
President Menem introduced amnesty laws to heal the wounds created by this conflict , and the general public were prepared to put the war behind them
The K government as we know , is well versed in finding supposed “enemies ” .
They tore up the amnesty laws at the same time as the fishing and hydrocarbon agreements and began a witch hunt of former officers that makes the Inquisition seem tame .
@195
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly. And what's wrong anyway with having a rapacious landowning oligarchy prepared to stop at nothing to maintain its privileges? Pretty much everybody else in Latin America had one too.
i guess we could retaliate with batshit historical claims but then we'd end up claiming a 1/3rd of the world:). it was embarrsing enough when serria leone celebrated because it thought it was being colonized again.
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Geeeeeeeee.....
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My compatriot, Mr. Alberto Bertorelli, commenting on these pages is so “Full Of It” that even the Anglo Turnips have difficulties swallowing his porkies....
Nice to see that some of themaforementioned Turnips can actually Think.
Regards from Chubut...
El Think
@198
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, it has been quite refreshing to be offered up a different flavour of porkie for once.
TWIMC
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At least, Mr. Alberto Bertorelli didn't “maka a mistaka” in his screen name choice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6CDYxMQ_dM
@197 : Rapacious land owning oligarchies simply get replaced by faceless rapacious multinationals and dubious friends of the Kirchners .
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At least the oligarchs were Anglophiles .
The people at the bottom still end up with f*ck all .
After 30 odd years of Montonero lies , it's about time someone gave a conflicting view .
AB's figures for the disappeared may be too high though .
For example, in the Mexico earthquake of 1985 Argentines were killed who were listed as having disappeared during the 1976-83 dictatorship , so they must have died twice ( only an Argentine can manage to die twice ) .
Also bear in mind that if you can “prove” (sic) that relatives disappeared , you get a very large pension , so people whose children did get out claim them as disappeared and get tens of thousands of dollars .
Kerching !!!!
The Kirchners are corrupt and inept, but they've at least given up on the parilla and the one way flights for nuns.
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I'm a great admirer of the Bersaglieri, the driving force of Rommel's first and last victories in North Africa (3,000 British POWs at Mechili and 2,500 US POWS at Kasserine Pass, according to Wikipedia). Great to see people on this forum get naturally curious about me and look me up on the internet. The Italians fought just as good as the US, British, Australian, New Zealand and Russian troops in WW2 just look up 101 ITALIAN WW2 VICTORIES & COUNTING and you'll be amazed at the quality of Italian troops.
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“you'll be amazed at the quality of Italian troops”
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0... depending on which side they were fighting for, eh?
Ethopia wasn't exactly a great success, and Hitler despaired of these people. Why else could he not rely on them? Why else was German troops sent to Italy when they were so badly needed on the Russian Front, and then later in France?
hmmm....
To begin with I thought Alberto Broccolli might be a serious poster, but know we see he just another sock-puppet. He was doing okay, until the mis-information, and then the underlying hate, started to show.
natch!
Do not know why both scandal by “” Malvinas are Argentine “Argentine mandatory in all public transport systems”:
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every city, town and route of each province Argentina there are plenty of museums, posters, murals, statues, sculptures alluding to malvinas and our relentless pursuit of sovereignty (peacefully and right through UN).
Moreover, as noted that none of you used transportation in Argentina, for example in several buses in the city where I live, inside the same, there are decals alluding to malvinas even VETERANS OF MALVINAS UP TO BUSES IN MY CITY, AND SPEAK TO PASSENGERS ON THEIR EXPERIENCES OF WAR, in fact, a week ago ascended the to bus in which i was traveling AN EX VETERAN SOLDIER MALVINAS and commented his EXPERIENCE IN MONTE LONDON AND HOW WAS THE LAST BATTLE ON THE ISLAND: THE RESPECT AND ADMIRATION THAT WAS RECEIVED FROM PASSENGER WAS HUGE, ESPECIALLY FROM A GROUP OF BOYS OF NO MORE THAN 10 YEARS OLD Who were returning FROM SCHOOL.
NO NEED TO PUT THE MANDATORY “ MALVINAS ARGENTINA”S IN BUS.
BECAUSE THE “ESPIRITU MALVINENSE” IS WITHIN OUR AND EXISTED, EXISTS AND WILL EXIST FOREVER IN EVERY ARGENTINE CITIZEN , After watching those boys of primary school I'm sure
204 ilsen
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no hatred of the British on my part, but I certainly despise the current Argentine government and the violent Argentine left that forever ruined our economy and that prompted the Argentine military to first take action in 1930. I wish the military had the guts to take action again, but I think there are no longer brave men like Aldo Rico or Mohamed Seineldin left in the military. Anyway with regards to the Italian forces, this is not the right place to contest each other's findings. I will gladly correct your low opinion of the Italians if you go to the ITALIAN SOLDIERS OF WW2 upload on youtube where bashing of the Italian military has recently ceased to exist after 7 years of negative feeback. Better still, I recommend you go to Wikipedia and read about the each Italian division that fought in North Africa (Ariete, Littorio, Centauro, Pavia, Bologna, Trieste, Trento, etc) and the Wikipedia pages that cover the roles of the Tridentina, Ravenna, Julia, Cosseria, Pasubio and Torino Divisions in Russia. If you bother reading these properly referenced pages you will find out that the Italian Army fought well on numerous occasions and with very little German help. For example, the 7th Bersaglieri practically captured on their own the 6,000 or more British defenders tasked entrusted with the defence of Mersa Matruh in late June 1942 and the 1,000 or more stranded New Zealand troops rounded up nearby in early June 1942, because the only combat-worthy German Division at the time, the 90th, was further to the east at Fuka and was a division only on paper .
@203
Nov 24th, 2014 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently the Bersaglieri once seized an undefended hospital. Lions led by fuck-witted fascists. It's rarely a winning combination.
@205
Why stop at signs? Why not put a Malvinas veteran on each bus as well? He could ask if anybody has seen his camel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYYo49R_ZS0
@205
Nov 24th, 2014 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hernan don't talk “ bollocks ” nobody in their right minds would put Veterans on buses and talk about the FALKLANDS Oh that's right, only in Argentina. I was speaking to friend of mine the other day and do you know what he didn't know where the FALKLANDS were, he only knew we kicked the shit out of you.
@206
Nov 24th, 2014 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have do doubt that some Italtian soldiers fought bravely and honourably, and these men have my respect.
However, you can not change history.
The Italians lost the Desert War, lost the Med. and ultimately changed sides. If you argue those facts, you only show yourself to be false.
However, let us return to the topic:
“Malvinas are Argentine”, mandatory in all Argentine public transport systems
What do you feel about this?
Will it win you your 'war'?
How will some bus-stickers change the course of history?
Hernan is right (#205). Argentins do not need reinforcements; the absolute majority of the population feels the 'Malvinas son Argentinas,' and we also know the British stole them from us.
Nov 24th, 2014 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0We know we are not going to lose a single life in the Malvinas pursuit. 'Ellas' will in time be returned to us as surely as the colonies were lost to the colonist countries. Nothing you and I can do about it. That's the curse of history. Take notice or ignore it...it'll just happen.
210 Enrique Massot
Nov 24th, 2014 - 06:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is that how you feel... in Calgary, Enrique?
Please explain how Britain “stole ” them from you ?
Please make it convincing, other Trolls rattle on about 1833, and how the British have been “squatters” there for 180 years.
@211
Nov 24th, 2014 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0He knows what he knows because he's a member of a faith-based cult impervious to reason.
Surely the message to be put across to the foreign visitors should have been “ The FALKLANDS are Argentinian” because most foreign travellers speak English, I can see them now on the bus looking at the sign and thinking Malvinas where the fuck is that? Still only in Argentina would you get such a dumb idea.
Nov 24th, 2014 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0212 Hans
Nov 24th, 2014 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Had a look at Enrique's Face Book page:
I suppose that being a reporter for the Cochrane Eagle, a local shopping news for a farm village outside of Calgary, is a great qualification for objective commenting on historical events.
Enrique appears to be accustomed to pounding the pulpit on LATAM solidarity and other social issues.
Interesting that one hand, he admires and champions Nelson Mandela as a Leader for Human Rights, yet on the other, he is all for trampling on the Islanders Self Determination, and rights to live and be governed as they please !
Meanwhile, as he lives happily and securely in Canada, Enrique encourages Argentine propaganda against the very British Falklands, whilst ignoring the clampdown on the Argentine citizens, by a corrupt and desperate government.
MAwaiting a righteously indignant reply...
The diaries of Enrique on YouTube .......
Nov 24th, 2014 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl95sUVYC-w
Spanish speakers amongst you will piss yourselves .
210 Enrique
Nov 24th, 2014 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Take notice or ignore it...it'll just happen.”
Thats the ticket mate, just let the clock tick by, 'Elas' will undoubtedly just fall into your laps, manana will take care of everyhting!
Yeah I vote to ignore it. This blind faith in some future messianic event where the Falkland Islanders will suddenly give up being a prosperous, stable, rich, peaceful nation that controls its own future to being part of a backward and poor province where it's natural resources are plundered by erratic governments that frequently succumb to major economic collapses and are unable to provide proper transport, educational and health infrastructure..... is just plain STUPID!
Nov 24th, 2014 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Honestly what brain dead incompetent idiot would ever believe that this will happen?
What can Argentina offer the Falkland Islands? Just one thing that is worth having?
It his to show how thorough Argentinean brainwashing goes where people believe the bullsh!t with no foundation in reality.
Maybe before 1982 the Islanders may have succumbed to being part of Argentina but the last 30 years have now found that potential reality deader than the dodo.
Enrique you're an idiot twice over. For putting your real name online (you're too old to understand the stupidity of that and potential for identity theft) and for believing a Peronist (quasi-fascist) fairytale.
Funny article in the Telegraph today. Alicia Castro is still banging on about Top Gear and appears to be threatening the future of BBC wildlife programming in Argentina should they choose to air the Top Gear Special.
Nov 24th, 2014 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/11249654/Top-Gear-Argentina-row-could-put-Attenborough-wildlife-programmes-at-risk.html
Anyone remember “Death of a Princess”
@218
Nov 24th, 2014 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Walking Giants, a new one-hour documentary, will see Sir David tell the story of 200 fossils relating to seven dinosaurs found in the deserts of Patagonia.”
I believe we've found at least one Patagonian fossil on here, though it isn't a giant.
Many years ago I was having an asado and one of the peons came to me and said ” we have found a large fossil, we carefully excavated around it and sure enough it was the head of a dinasaur. I went to the local museum and told them, and they said we have hundreds. They were not interested at all.Perhaps that in a nutshell tells all, not interested, could't be arsed would be my answer.
Nov 24th, 2014 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Castro woman is determined to demonstrate that whatever else she is , she is certainly not a diplomat .
Nov 24th, 2014 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Making an enemy of the BBC will not help their Malvinista agenda one bit .
Deckchair , beer and pop corn time .
Let's face it. It's going to be the most widely viewed episode of Top Gear ever made - and the audience was already in the hundreds of millions worldwide.
Nov 24th, 2014 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don’t know if anybody saw the final Paul O’Grady show about Battersea Dog and Cat’s Home but the Ambassador for Mexico had a small Jack Russell terrier he was naming ‘Pepe’, I can see why now, but on the settee with him was a red haired overweight bitch fawning for his attention.
Nov 24th, 2014 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YES, Alicia Castro in the god awful flesh. Fortunately, if she did open her mouth at all it was edited out.
October 2014 South Georgia News and Events:
Nov 24th, 2014 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- GSGSSI Enters a Brave New World… of Twitter
- Heroes of the Imperial Trans-Antarctic – New Stamp Release
- Fishing and Shipping News
- Rodent Incursion Response At King Edward Point
- Dick Laws Obituary
- Grytviken On Google Streetview
- New Book: Viola – The Life and Times of a Hull Steam Trawler
- Bird Island Diary
- South Georgia Snippets
http://www.sgisland.gs
Thanks JohnN
Nov 24th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0--------
218 Idlehands
Yes, I saw that too. It is in the Independent, the Guardian and others as well. The comments are amusing. That Alicia really doesn't get it. The BBC are not going to back down. I'm surprised that the BeeB hasn't made a complaint about the stone-throwing thugs. Obviously their best response will be to air the programme.
:-)
Contract signed for first production batch of F-35B aircraft
Nov 24th, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Ministry of Defence (MOD) has signed a contract for the first production batch of 4 Lightning II stealth combat aircraft – which will operate from both the Royal Navy’s new aircraft carriers and Royal Air Force (RAF) land bases
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/contract-signed-for-first-production-batch-of-f-35b-aircraft
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I've thought of a new stencil for the buses, trains and boats in Argentina.
Nov 24th, 2014 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“no hay Gripen”
:-)
Can't wait for the new aircraft carrier to make its first South Atlantic patrol.
:-)
Pity CFK will no longer be in power, lol
Nov 24th, 2014 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0still,
she can watch in awe like the rest of them.
227 LOL !!
Nov 24th, 2014 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or “no tenemos Gripens”
Nov 24th, 2014 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*sad face*
Bwahahahaa!
209 ilsen sorry for my late response
Nov 24th, 2014 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Italy lost the war, but went down fighting with Rommel saying “The Italians fought with exemplary courage” (see Wikipedia page to do with the final battle at Alamein). Also several German colonels and generals proved treacherous and tried to remove Hitler from power with a bomb on 20 July 1944, in a bid to seek peace with the Allies while the Japanese, Rumanians, Hungarians, Finns were still fighting for the Axis cause. Hundreds of thousands of Italians chose to remain faithful to Mussolini after the treachery of Badoglio, with practically the entire Italian Air Force electing to continue the war against the Allies. An entire new army was raised and scored some notable successes, like smashing the US 92 Infantry Division in late December 1944. I blame the Italian civil war that followed on Badoglio and the Italian communists. With regards to the current Kirchner distraction campaign, I find it ridiculous. Also with the pitiful state of the Argentine armed forces, Argentine is in no position to demand the Malvinas without being taken seriously. Because of the left in Argentina, and the stupidity of the Argentine people who voted Alfonsin, Menem and the Kirchners into power, I don't think the Argentine people deserve the Malvinas anymore. Look at us now, we have 1960s era fighters when we could've gone beyond the development of the IA-63 Pampa jet we produced in the mid-1980s and have today or own Gripen-type fighter. We would have nuclear weapons today and ICBMs (Condor II see Wikipedia) to deliver them, but President Menem sold us out and scrapped the nuclear program. I mean look at Iran and North Korea, no one is messing with them because they have the means to hit you back.
@231
Nov 24th, 2014 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm... not sure I need a history lesson on WWII but thanks for replying.
The Italians still lost, no matter how brave etc or not.
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re: your comments on Argentine military. You forgot to say that they have been kept deliberately underfunded and impoverished because Cristina is scared of them. Partly because like so many countries in Lat Am the military is still considered a political power.
That is one key cultural change that is needed.
@231
Nov 24th, 2014 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody is really messing with Argentina just now either, except insofar as you consider expecting Argentina to honour its agreements as “messing”. Argentina's weakness is just preventing Argentina from messing with anybody else.
In fact very few countries have any real interest in Argentina. Not really 'on the radar' for most global players, even less so the psuedo-colonial ambitions over some islands in the South Atlantic,
Nov 25th, 2014 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0The 'malvinas' diatribe' only reaches the domestic audience and most of them don't really care.
231 Alberto
Nov 25th, 2014 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I mean look at Iran and North Korea, no one is messing with them because they have the means to hit you back.”
Hmmm, I dont think you really want to hold those nations up as something to aspire to.
Its nice that you feel patriotic towards your Italian heritage.
I'm sure many of them were brave, but they lost the war, and we've moved on from there.
I do appreciate that seem to be able to look at the current political situation with more objectivity and thought, than your countryman, “Sallus”.
Iran does not have nuclear weapons.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0North Korea may have, but does not have the ballistic capabilties to hit NATO countries. North Korea knows if it attacks Japan, then it will reduced to rubble by the USA. Equally, then China would be involved. Then we would be looking at WWIII.
Does anyone think China wants to get into such a scenario?
Therefore Alberto, your comments are groundless.
let's get back to the topic. What exactly Alberto are your plans regarding the new Signs on your public transport?
You say you don't like them, what are you going to do?
@138. But it isn't just the 'isleters', is it? Consider the 'impact' of a nuclear missile with 14 Multiple Independent Re-Entry Vehicles. The UK doesn't have to go with agreements between the Americans and Russians.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@144. “england has been murdering 3/4 of the world and stealing lands during its whole, sad existence.”
Why should we change our ways? But, according to you, we missed 25%. Terrible oversight. We should correct that, shouldn't we? And is there some reason that you shouldn't set an example bt repaying the US$100 billion you owe?
@148. Guess what WE, and the U.S. have, and you don't!
@149. None of which is true, dummkopf. See, modern slavery - Turks, arabs, French, Italians and Spanish. Concentration camps - spanish in cuba. Ethnic cleansing and massive killings. Spain and argieland.
You really shouldn't say bad words about your god 'shite hitler'. Haven't you been using his methods since at least 1938?
@152, 176, 186, 188 et al. I'm sure that Uruguayans, except for 'Tosspot' Mujica, will be glad to hear how WE British saved them from argie murderers, rapists and genocides.
Do you really think that someone 'experienced' in pasta sauces should comment? Stick with lasagna. It's about your mark. Lasagna makes me vomit.
@164. Shut it, murdering, raping, genocidal tosspot. We will be coming for YOU!
@205. Shame that your cowards couldn't manage 'MOUNT LONGDON'. Do they want to go back? Talk, especially in pursuit of benefits, is cheap.
@210. Want to bet? I PROMISE you a minimum MILLION argie deaths. Note that. A MINIMUM million. Wherever they are. We'll also be sending out the sniper squads. Feeling brave? You have no idea of how the majority of British people hate and despise argies. As we say, “The only good argie is a dead argie”. Take no chances. Shoot it again, cut its throat and toss it into a minefield.
210,
Nov 25th, 2014 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0its brainwashed people like you lot, that is a part of what Argentina is about,
its in a mess ,
and its getting worse, but all you are interested in, just like your Barbie doll leader is the Falkland islands,
that you have never owned , never administered , and had no interest in, until oil was found,
CFK supporters like you lot, would rather see the destruction of your own country, rather than leave the islanders alone,
and that alone make all you argie brainwashed more a danger to Argentina than
Britain or the islanders ever were, or is , or ever likely to be..
Briton. Very well put, but it is water off a ducks back I'm afraid, they are brainwashed.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@222
Nov 25th, 2014 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Let's face it. It's going to be the most widely viewed episode of Top Gear ever made - and the audience was already in the hundreds of millions worldwide.”
And Castro's going to ensure that audience will be bigger- I can't wait to see what the Top Gear team will add on the commentary. Afterwards the Argy government will be on the next plane to the UN.
Good for Cohen,
Nov 25th, 2014 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not knuckling under to attempted intimidation by Argentina!
I don't think Castro and CFK know what to do when they run up against integrity.
239 golfcronie
Nov 26th, 2014 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0very true..
@ 231 Alberto Bertorelli
Nov 26th, 2014 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Look at us now, we have 1960s era fighters when we could've gone beyond the development of the IA-63 Pampa jet we produced in the mid-1980s and have today or own Gripen-type fighter.”
Hard to see that happening, where would you get the engines from? Honeywell would be blocked and you cannot make them yourself. Ask the Chinese to help you? THEY can’t make them either having spent TEN years and billions trying they STILL have to get them from the Russians. The Russians are running out of capacity for their new planes and the Chinese are struggling to keep existing aircraft airworthy. The Pampa is a Mickey Mouse Trainer and could not really be considered for attack unless it was on the argies themselves.
Developing a Gripen type plane????? You are funny and stupidly funny to go with it. The argies have NFC of doing that: have a good look at one and then come back and tell us HTF hairy-arsed argies working in a shed are going to do that?
“We would have nuclear weapons today and ICBMs (Condor II see Wikipedia) to deliver them, but President Menem sold us out and scrapped the nuclear program. I mean look at Iran and North Korea, no one is messing with them because they have the means to hit you back.”
These lunatic thoughts have already be demolished by the above posts.
The ONLY chance the Eyeties have got in TDC is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZMTDDRVShM
I like his hat, it would suit you.
Why Argentina is not going anywhere .
Nov 26th, 2014 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A very good piece by James Neilson of the Herald on the political future of
Argentina in light of the forthcoming ( Oct 15) elections .
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/175432/carri%C3%B3-confronts-the-peronist-hydra-
The Argies have put the new Chinese trains into operation, She ( who must be obeyed ) has asked the population to look after the trains and not cover them with graffitty, so what are these posters LOS FALKLANDS son ARGENTINA then? I suppose she considers this not graffitty then.
Nov 26th, 2014 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 245 golfcronie
Nov 26th, 2014 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“TMBOA has asked the population to look after the trains and not cover them with graffiti.”
This reminds me of a saying used in teaching:
“if you want students to do something instruct them NOT to do it”
The little buggers are juvenile enough to do it in spite!
Coming from TMBOA must be like a green light.
@243 Chris R
Nov 27th, 2014 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Got more medals as well-notice how all the crackpots (Sadam Hussein-Kim ying sill ,whatever the peaky blinders geezer in North Korea is called), have loadsa medals but haven't actually fought anywhere?
Must check to see how many medals Galteiri awarded himself-I'll bet there wasn't one for fighting in the Falklands-and him being an Army general and all.
#180 There never were 30,000 'desaparecidos'. That's Argentina's second biggest myth after the “Malvinas.”
Nov 28th, 2014 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Menem paid US$200,000 each in compensation to eleven thousand families of “desaparecidos” - something that is never mentioned nowadays. That's a LOT of money and you can bet that a lot of the claims were fraudulent.
Don't get me wrong. I am not saying that the “desaparecidos” deserved their fate. What I am saying is that Argentines rewrite their own history for political ends with no sense of shame.
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