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UK reacts to 'Malvinas are Argentine' signs on public transportation
The UK has objected to Argentine congress decision that public transportation should carry signs expressing the country's claim over the Falkland Islands. A law passed by the Argentine Congress says vehicles must declare “Las Malvinas son Argentinas”, or the “Malvinas are Argentine”. Read full article
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Nov 22nd, 2014 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Which came first?
The chicken...?:
State Sponsored Propaganda already hanging at the hospital, schools, public offices, many a private home AND the Victory Bar in Malvinas..:
http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/47969/0x0/our-islands-our-home.jpg
Or the egg...?:
State sponsored propaganda to be glued onto public transport vehicles in Argentina...:
http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/47969/0x0/our-islands-our-home.jpg
Personally, I'm for the egg, myself. It's such a typical Malvinista logical contradiction, insofar as Keeping Calm and Malvinas Argentinas are mutually self-contradictory, and indeed intended to be so.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hmmm which came first the chicken:
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 01) the first recorded landing and sovereignty claim by the British in 1690
Or the next chicken
2) the British population in Port Egmont in the 18th century
Or the next chicken
3) the British population on the islands for the last 180 years
Or perhaps the egg
1) 6 weeks in 1832 where a 50 strong crew of the SS Sarandi arrived on the islands hoisted the Argentine rag of a flag, murdered their Captain Esteban Mestivier and raped his wife in front of their children, before the 50 (According to Argentine National Archives) were evicted within 6 weeks.
Hmmmm...no mention of those (the only relevant) chickens and eggs.
As Think was so kind to point out.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0British sovereignty is proven by the people that live there.
Argentina's sovereignty is proven by..... er.... a sign on a bus?!?!?!
Mayor correction to post No. (4)
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0British Colonial occupation of the Malvinas Islands is proven by the ~2,400 British Citizens plus some 1,200 British Military Personnel squatting there....
Erm..... still better than a sticker on the side of a bus.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Eerm.. Wonder if Stink dares to put such a sign on his house in Dunoon, or on the back window of his car, or dares mention his twisted logic in the Combined Services Club? Don't Think so!
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0In reality everyone knows that such pathetic gestures draw howls of laughter from us Brits which make sad brainwashed Malvinistas like Think look stupid and impotent. This ranks with the kayak invasion, hasty retreat from Tumbledown, pathetic Malvinas Museum and bands of tyre burning thugs as a pathetic icon of Cristina and her band of cynical thriving crooks.
Major correction to post No. (5)
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0British Colonial occupation of the Falklands Islands is proven by the Brits having placed the islands on the UN list of Non Self Governing Territories. It's precisely this which ensures the inhabitants right of self-determination against the colonial inheritance claimed by the claimed colonial successors of a former colonial claimant.
Surprised UK govt decided to respond. Does it really matter that Argentina wastes its time and money on something Argentines in their heart of hearts don't really believe.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Better to concentrate on helping build up the Falkland Island infrastructure in preparation for when the oil industry comes to town....and of course keeping the Islands defences in a high state of readiness....just in case.
WGAF!
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The UK has objected to Argentine congress decision that public transportation should carry signs expressing the country's claim over the Falkland Islands.”
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0so what?
none of your business, nosey uk.
a comerla...
Rumours that Top Gear are going to re-stage the run along Route 40 in the New Year , this time in green Ford Falcons without number plates ( so as not to cause offence ) are currently making the rounds in Buenos Aires .
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Much like the going on the falklands are none of your business.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looking forward to the end of the xmas top gear special vulcan bombers sea harriers making an apperance and possibly ghurkhas :)
Rumours that the Top Gear team will be trying to beat the world record for the number of people you can stuff in the boot of a Falcon have been strongly denied .....
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Paulcondom
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0You made it our business in 1982 when YOU made a cowardly attack on the islands, leading to the deaths of nearly 1000 people. YOU planted unmapped minefields (against the Geneva convention), YOU used civilians as a human shield, YOU defied a binding UNSC resolution ordering you to leave...
So, until 1982 this ridiculous Malvinas religion or cult could be ignored, but after your disgusting act of cowardice (costing 650 deaths of your own undertrained military), it is OUR business.
It was only an act of pity that made US stop at removing you from the islands, and not a full scale act of retribution.
Thank your lucky stars Paulcondom, that we pity you....we really pity you condom, we really do!
monkeysbrain
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no you imbecile.
you made it our business when you tried and failed to invade buenos aires 3 times -1806, 1807 and 1845, and when you invaded malvinas en 1833.
thats why the whole world rejects squatters like you, 4th class pleb.
but your time will be over sooner than later.
guess a good blockade of the islets can help.
so, try to find another islet to squat, but in england this time, you stinky monkey culo roto.
@10. Surely such signs would amount to incitements to ignore and/or breach international law. Argieland has NEVER successfully proven that it has any right to claim sovereignty. A simple examination of the FACTS. Argies often like to start with the papal bull 'Inter caetera' in 1493. Conveniently forgetting that no other country, except Portugal, ever accepted the 'bull' as valid and that the church has dismissed it. The subsequent Treaty of Tordesillas is equally invalid. Argies also like to claim that they 'inherited' the Falklands from Spain. Unfortunately, 'inheritance' isn't a legal means of acquiring territory. Moreover, Spain didn't accept argieland as a 'country' until 1858. Every single argie action up to and including 1858 was, by definition, illegal. There were no further official argie incursions until 1982. A useful, but expensive, event that finalised British sovereignty. Because the international legal principle of 'uti possidetis' applies and overtakes everything else. Argieland is revealed as a pitiful little country with delusions of imperialist colonialism by theft.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would anyone be surprised that argieland proposes to 'progress' and achieve objectives by criminal behaviour? Of course not. Argieland has been criminal since at least 1946.
It is noteworthy that argieland has more psychiatrists per head of population than any other country. A subconscious understanding that they aren't really human, that they carry a massive burden of justified guilt, that every day of their lives is filled with shame, that they lack attributes such as credibility, honesty, integrity. What a horrific situation. An entire population unable to tell right from wrong! No wonder there is so much anxiety. Imagine knowing, deep down in your psyche, that you are actually worthless.
Just look at pablo @16. Four lies in one sentence. And then it's on to empty threats and pitiful insults. Can anyone imagine an argie fleet capable of stopping A British warship? Not possible!
1806 1807 fair one you won those but still a sideshow to the napolonic war
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 01845 a blocade to stop argentina taking urguay that you won because the forign office lost intrest.
To befair your glorious resitance to the colonization of las malvinas has now gone on for what 180 years with no sign of success.
Now go away you spanish bed wetting types or I will taunt you a 2nd time
Who is supposed to pay for this spectacular propaganda campaign? Will the Argentine government buy advertisment space on buses, trams, trains, ships, airplanes, stations, ports, airports &c? Or will the owners of the vehicles and tranport facilities be forced by police to put the signs up on their own account?
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 Calling the obsession with the Falklands the 'Malvinas Cult' is spot on. It is cult mentality.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PaulCedron. You do like to talk with some authority for the rest of the world. I'm never quite sure whether to be irritated or to feel embarrassed for you. You don't really understand International Politics or History or Economics. You have a highly over inflated opinion of the importance of Argentina and you combine that with a total ignorance of the nature and capabilities of the United Kingdom.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I offer you this free advice.
1. The Argentinian claim to the Falklands is legally invalid, historically false, politically weak and most fundamentally it's morally wrong.
2. There is no guarantee that the future for Argentina is going to be any better than your past. The true strength of a nation is built not upon it's natural resources but it is instead built upon the talents of it's people. If you keep electing stupid leaders you will always always lose. Just once in a while it may be beneficial for you not to keep taking the stupid option when it comes to making economic or political decisions. I had hoped that there would be some sort of Social Darwinism at work in Argentina and a survival of the fittest rule would lead to improvement. Instead we seem to have a political evolution based upon survival of the most populist and the most corrupt.
3. The perception that the UK as a nation is on a one way path to decline and that this decline will inevitably lead to the return of the Falklands is an illusion. Again my point that the true strength of a nation being built upon the talents of it's people is pertinent. The UK economy is growing and will be Europe's 2nd largest in 3 years. We're not declining absolutely or relatively. The UK is going to be a bigger beast on the world stage than Argentina for a long, long time to come. Argentina may always come 2nd to the UK.
Paul, with this in mind I'd recommend that you find a more rewarding, less frustrating hobby than the Malvanista cause. Honestly it's a little bit of a silly hobby to waste all your time on.
@paulcedron,so Argentina being a land of immigrants is somehow different to The Falkland Islands being a land of immigrants-Explain like I was a 5 year old and while your at also explain why Argentines are incapable of electing any one person who is not corrupt and ends up being sued or a accused once they have left office,is there an answer or is it just that your country is indeed as once described by your close neighbour Uruguay as a country of THIEVES and LIARS.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With everything that is going on in Argentina is this really the best they can come up with??? I have Argentinian friends they are embarrassed as i am for them, after living in Brasil for 7 years i now understand the distain they have for Argentina.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina= Totally lost the Plot
Or as they see themselves = Argentina ALWAYS the victim
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For once I agree with the Brits. And I have always said this since my fortunate arrival here, The Falklands are an obsession compulsion, and I refuse to participate in an obsession compulsions (iPhones, Falklands, Olympics, English-language literature pre-1970, modern capitalism, etc).
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course people like @21, 22 show in shining colors the level of British education, which is deplorable, at least when it comes to their knowledge of Argentina.
25. Its just one of the many examples of Argentinians embarrassing themselves.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are correct in not getting caught up in lies your gov't tells you.
It is too bad you're so wrong on everything else all the time.
I am correct you just have no guts to admit it:
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0People chasing iPhones and other such paraphernalia: OBSESSION
All nations of the world being brainwashed the modern capitalism is the best system (modern capitalism = subsidize the rich by taxing the poor) = OBSESSION
Buying any modern English-language author (absolute garbage with no talent whatsoever), just because they made a movie = OBSESSION
The Olympic Games as a noble enterprise = OBSESSION
That's just the reality. Which is why I avoid all of those. I can't even remember where the last two Olmypics were held, they were that unimportant in Argentina.
Everyone in the civilized world has the ability to buy, watch and read whatever they like.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you care what they spend their money and time on?
It affect you.
Only in Socialist Countries do the Poor get taxed to pay for the Rich mostly through inflation.
I don't care, but I have the right to call it what it is.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not socialist countries ONLY... in your country it is the economic system since about the year 1998.
That is some sort of collectivist myth that's out there for stupid people to quote. Most people that make under 30K don't pay any Federal Taxes.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Top 50 Percent of All Taxpayers Paid 97 Percent of All Income Taxes; the Top 5 Percent Paid 57 Percent of All Income Taxes; and the Top 1 Percent Paid 35 Percent of All Income Taxes in 2011
http://taxfoundation.org/article/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data
You can call it an obsession if you'd like. I don't have a problem with that term. All it means is that people can buy what they want as it should be.
Malvinazi asinine incoherence has no limits.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
The Argentine gov't is only trying to keep the folks' eyes away from their unfit handling of the economy. The Arg. peso keeps falling and the inflation in Arg. has become a big problem. They try to manipulate the worth of peso against the dollar with the outcome that even hotel maids are paying tourists nearly twice the official rate and hoarding them.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for tourists … most could not care less about the Falklands.
Ignore the man behind the curtain and keep looking at the Falklands …
25 Troll in The Dark
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“For once I agree with the Brits. And I have always said this since my fortunate arrival here, The Falklands are an obsession compulsion”
Fortunate for who? Us?? Sorry Tobi, but I for one would rather be shot than poisoned.
To have to read your inane, pointless ramblings day after day is akin to having toothache but without the opportunity of going to the dentist to get it sorted.
Did you know Carly Simon? Was she thinking about you when she wrote her hit single “You're so vain”?
I really wish you would take the hint and crawl back under your rock and spare the rest of this forum from your self important ( and predictably incorrect ) preening.
Personally, I couldn't give a flying f#@k what they put on their public transport.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 033 toooldtodieyoung
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The thing about Tobi is that he is succeeding in his main objective which is that of trolling this site.
He pretends that he does this is because everyone who posts here is anti Argentina but I think you are spot on with his vanity streak and wanting to be the centre of attraction.
@27 How was your vacation?
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know, I don't have an iPhone and most people I know don't have one. The exception is in developing countries where owning one seems to satisfy their aspirational snobbery. People with money don't need to advertise it.
Again, the politics of envy. You can't have real capitalism so you have to settle for State Capitalism and call it Socialism.
Oh dear, you need to find a new book store. Probably the reason you can only find trashy English language books is your government's policy on not allowing you free choice of books.
You will never get the Olympics so you try to save face by saying they are not worth having. I attended the 2012 Olympics and can tell you that you are wrong. You will never have the opportunity to know how wrong you are.
You live in an ignorant, isolationist bubble but choose to comment here. Why? If you really didn't care and were not so green with envy you wouldn't give this board the time of day.
@25
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...which is deplorable, at least when it comes to their knowledge of Argentina.”
You've given ample demonstration that you yourself have no clue about Argentine history. Remember, an “Acha” sendoff. ;)
You are absolutely right . People in the UK have very little knowledge of Argentina . They might think of tango , football and corned beef , if anything at all.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You see , the rest of the world simply doesn't think that Argentina is the centre of the universe , because it isn't ?
Paulcondom
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So when you say Buenos Aires of 1806 and 1807 is “you” that is excellent news. Therefore “you” are the Spanish Empire and a colonialist.
Good, glad to hear it....
Therefore any claim you think you have to the Falklands is rank and disgusting hypocrisy.
See Paulie....we can agree, you are the murdering genocidal colonialist....and we still pity you.
and the UK, said 'meh', then sort of shrugged...
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm all for these adverts, have the guts to slap them on your wine bottles and see how many you can sell !
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16. paulcedron
Blockade, with what ?
So Senator Teresa Luna thinks “It is directed not only at the foreigner who comes here as a tourist or visits our country, but also at the citizens in general, and will serve to reinforce our history, our culture and our identity.”
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now, how does one become a tourist without visiting the country ??? And how does some ridiculous brainwashing on the sides of buses reinforce Argentine history ? Only if it is meant to remind them of their resounding, embarrasing defeat in 1982. D'you think she's vying for a position in CFK's Cabinet ?? looks like she has the main credentials needed for such a post : fanatic nationalism and stupidity.
@21 Cognitio
Well put.
@25, 27 Troll in hopeless darkness
Your opinions just reinforce the fact that envy is usually the cause of hate. It's comes through very clearly in every sentence you write.
@27. Hilarious.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Explain why your 'government' is only interested in stealing money from the population. And why don't you get to vote them out?
Can't remember the last book I bought BECAUSE there was a movie.
What has argieland got to celebrate? It's so desperate that it celebrates LOSING a war it started. Argieland issues medals and pays benefits. Where is the shame? The Summer Olympic Games have NEVER been held in argieland. Three times in London but NEVER in argieland. A clear indication of how worthless argieland is. But it covers it up. It isn't interested. It doesn't 'do' team sports and TiTD does close to the best. They don't matter. Strange how so many leading countries see things differently. If argieland is the only place marching in step, how's it going to prove it? An argie lies again!
The weird thing about Argentina is that there is clearly a critical need for bullshit detectors, but very little demand.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree that it should be stamped onto the labels of all produce and products that are for export from Argentina.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now that would be interesting. ..
I don't know what all of this signage cost, these people have seriously got their priorities wrong.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNyXoGOYJ1Y
P/S
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Egg came first any fool knows that,
as for argie dictatorship,
Britain may well shy away, but it can do a lot more , it could take Argentina to the international court for false claims,
it could publicly accuse CFK of lying,
it could demand Argentina be removed from the G20 ,
but sadly the only defence the British government puts up over the years is,
The UK Foreign Office said the move was “regrettable but not surprising..
I say- either you defend what you have, or lose it..
Action speaks louder than words.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@47 Defend it against what? Argentina slapping up a few posters is no threat.
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paulcedron- Please explain to me all this about the world rejects us etc etc?
Nov 22nd, 2014 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just recently we had some Brazilian businessmen here looking at business possibilities.
Our business folks frequently visit Chile and Uruguay and all the other countries we need to.
On all standard shipping and freight documentation all the countries we trade with use the word Falkland Islands or Islas Falkland when communicating with us.
Stupid government always using this populist measures thinking they will take the attention from the real problems the country faces generation after generation , peronismo and military juntas destroyed the fabric of Argentinian society ,
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0as an Argentinian it hurts me to see that the people I love are living under those conditions ,they are lied constantly and they only few options to generate a real change, I take this forum as platform to show that generalization of the Argentinian people is misleading and show big sings of ignorance, there are a ton of smart people out there they don't care about the Falklands or imperialism.....
Argentina and UK have more in common than not, for gods sake....check history and a lot of curious factds..http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Argentine
It's incredible Buenos Aires it is wath it's in big part due to British and Irish immigration..
Cheers..
@42, Not too much to be worried about. Would say 99% of the tourists visiting Argentina will have no clue where or what the Malvinas are anyway. The rest of the world knows the Islands by their other name
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0In the dying days of the Nazi regime , the walls of Berlin were festooned with similar propaganda .
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ Berlin is and will always remain, German ”
“ The Third Reich will last a thousand years ”
CFK has made an absolute mess of the economy , many would say deliberately . All she and her supporters can do is come out with similar propaganda , plus bread and circuses ( the most public holidays of any country in the world and “ Football for All ” ) in the hope the world does not implode around her . 85% of Argentines , which includes a lot of her own supporters , no longer believe this Malvinas bullshit .
Paulcedron @ 11. You say...
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The UK has objected to Argentine congress decision that public transportation should carry signs expressing the country's claim over the Falkland Islands.”
“so what?
none of your business, nosey uk.”
Yeah, how about you stupid, filthy hypocrites remember the same logic the next time military training exercises or whatever else is taking place on the islands or the next time Argentina screams “provocation” whilst continuing to do the same thing.
You Paul and your country and not only a disgrace but a complete and utter embarrassment.
As for your whole world disagreeing with squatters statement, it's simply not true. Many countries support the call for dialogue - they do NOT support Argentina and it's attempt and desire to colonize land. Regardless, last time I checked, America, Canada and Australia were “part of the world” yet they don't support you.
So here's a novel idea, how about you filthy animals stop with the lies, hypocrisy and complete misrepresentation and perhaps finally, you'll manage to find somebody who will take you seriously. 2014 years in and you still can't manage it.
The signs will gather dust and rust, as time goes by.
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0So rather than pay it's debts, or improve hospitals, schools, roads and security, this insane government is throwing money away on useless propaganda that will only 'fool' a tiny portion of the population (like PaulCedron), and will never achieve anything except to make Argentina look more and more like a dictatorship similar to Nazi Germany...except nowhere near as competent.
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pay your debts, deadbeat Argentina!
@47. I don't understand your final sentence. We did defend what we have, rather successfully, in 1982. We continue to defend it to the extent of 1200 ground troops, 4 combat aircraft, a tactical transport aircraft, a tanker aircraft, 2 SAR helicopters, 1 offshore patrol vessel, 1 visiting warship and, possibly, 1 nuclear-propelled submarine. What more do you want?
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@51. Then you should think. The tone of your comment suggests that you don't reside in argieland. Why not? Which comes first, you or your 'country? If you want things to change, you have to be there. If only for your vote. And you should care about the Falklands and imperialism. Because then you'd be able to say that Britain doesn't do imperialism any more, but argieland is trying to. And you'd be able to see the harm that argieland is trying to do and to whom. Where does argieland think it gets the right to refer to and treat the Islanders as sort of 'untermenschen'? You started a war and lost it. That should have been the end. But your 'country' has proved that it cannot be trusted. If you really want things to change, you have a lot of work to do!
@56. An interesting point. Is the argie 'government' throwing money away? Or is it telling other people to throw their money away? One assumes that there will be prosecutions, fines, costs etc for people that don't display the signs. Will the signs have to be produced by a government-designated printer. The possibilites for screwing money out of people would seem to be endless. What if the lettering is in the wrong font or is the wrong size?
Another limp, impotent gesture by Argentina that will, as people have said. waste a lot of money which could be spent on more pressing need in Argentina -and once again it only serves to bury Argentina's head in the sand to what they need to do if they really want the Falklands by foul means or fair;
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. Persuade the Islanders that it would be a good idea to be Argentine.
2.Go to the ICJ.
3. Invade and capture the Islands using military force.
Next there will an Argentina law making 'Malvinas are Argentine' screensavers compulsory on all phones and computer screens.
And will it make their colonial ambitions more likely?
Not a chance.
It is rather insulting to the Argentine people believing that signs on public transport will convince their people or tourists that the Falklands belong to them.
It seems that the Malvinas cult must be full of total retards.
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Happy for their government to waste millions of tax dollars on stupid road signs and posters
Happy for their government to waste millions of tax dollars on stupid presentations and bribes to MERCOSUR, Unasur, SOREANUS, and various other Latam joke organisations with no power to do anything.
Happy for their government to waste millions of tax dollars making stupid and repetitive presentations to the C24, the corrupt UN organisation supposedly representing the populations of the NSGTs.
Happy to watch their government humiliate itself on the world stage, bribing one failed state after another to back their ludicrous claim, but then lose key UNGA votes and be absolutely no nearer gaining sovereignty of the Falklands.
However despite this happy clappy indoctrination, they never ask the two really really simple questions:
-Why does their government never approach the ONLY UN organisation empowered to give guidance on sovereignty disputes. Even though the UK would be under no obligation to follow said guidance, it would be a powerful weapon in the Malvinista argument?
- why do the islanders not want to be Argentine, surely the millions wasted over the years would have been better spent convincing them?
rotting roadkill: Do something or shut up! Please!
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I alternate between sheer boredom and hilarity at your rhetoric. All smoke and no fire. Take some action or desist. The whole rest of the world thinks you are a pitiful blowhard (which you are). Blockade them (wait you don't have a proper navy) or bomb them (same problem) or jam their radio signals(lol - how) or freeze them out of international markets or invade/occupy them via commercial transport or send illegal aliens onto the Island to eventually outnumber and out vote the Anglos or .......... you get the idea. DO SOMETHING OR SHUT UP!
- Either you defend what you have, or lose it..
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks people, I hear what you say,
I was merely trying to cover the British government’s response to more and more CFK Propaganda
Tactics,
The meagre impression seems to suggest ignoring her and she will go away,
Ones merely suggesting, that we could be a little more robust abt it,
Every time she or her ministers sprout such rubbish, we should publicly ask for them to prove it,
Making them look rather silly on the world stage, than they are now,
And yes Argentina has nothing but popcorn to throw at us,
Just an impression.
thanks for pointing it out..
@61 I think more attention is exactly what CFK wants. It is better not to give the mad bint any more coverage than necessary. When you think about it, ruining Argentina with scruffy signs everywhere has no impact whatsoever on Britain. Tourism numbers are falling in Argentina and will continue to do so. The messages are there to brainwash the Argentines and that is all.
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 062 'ElaineB
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0totally agree, good two items below.
Argentina’s Declining Armed Forces
November 11th, 2014
http://www.hscentre.org/latest-articles/argentinas-declining-armed-forces/
Could the UK still defend the Falklands?
http://www.hscentre.org/latest-articles/argentinas-declining-armed-forces/
answer it in one===Yes..
in spite of all the shit kirchner is doing, the fact is that international tourism is increasing here a lot.
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0not only because it is pretty cheap considering the blue dollar, but also because only in argentina you can visit the biggest waterfalls in the world, or the biggest glaciers, the collapse of the glacier perito moreno, the whales of puerto madryn, arguably the best ski centers, the best architecture of south america and the list goes on.
and if you like polo, (i know none of you are very fond to sports, but anyway) buenos aires is the place to be between september and december.
do you have something similar in the islets? lol
@51 marcbon,
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're right. Over the past 65 years the Argentine governments have always resorted to creating external factoids, larger than the internal problems, just to distract public opinion. I was in BA a few months ago, spoke to a lot of people - from various lines of work - and not one defended CFK or her disastrous policies. I would think that it's the noisy minority that openely defend her, but then where is the silent majority ?
Paulcedron.
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seriously, why do you in Argentina have a 'blue' dollar?
Compare that to the EU etc.
Ask yourself why.
Surely that alone is reason to question the Government's ability?
ilsen, mate
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are not tooooo bright, are you?
why the fuck a country has a parallel market?
because of the restriction to buy in the formal market.
now, why is that?
because of the lack of dollars in the central bank.
and why is that?
because the economy is managed by the most stupid officers you can get since 7 years ago.
I was reading a really interesting article and it looks to me that the best thing that Argentina did for the islander, was the invasion of 1982, history prove itself really ironic...
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/09/margaret-thatcher-falklands-gamble
Cheers
@68
Nov 23rd, 2014 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Los 'malvinas' no son argentinas. end of. bottom line. final outcome is...
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The Falkland Islands have a better GDP per Capita and a great future.
They choose to be British.
Argentina is going to the dogs.
So, yes thank you Junta bastards from Argentina, you shit on your country twice.
Are you proud of this marcbon?
Your mission was to take the Falklands, the result was to make them stronger and Argentina forever weaker.
Not such a great result.
oh, the true irony!
:-)
Amusing, but irony never fed people. Irony is a luxury you can not afford to enjoy.
The real irony will be on those logos on buses that come close to, but not inside, those 'villas miserias'....
No more Aid, no more arms deals, a collapsing economy, but you do have slogans on buses...
Look forward to eating those slogans next year.
Venezuela 2.0 (but with no oil slush fund, society will collapse a lot faster).
Viva la patria!
oh, the irony!
I'm no proud I think was a really stupid enterprise and
Nov 24th, 2014 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0the islanders are better today because off a ridiculous invasion I'm not instating af fact is part the off article which I think is a really good analysis of the early 80 and think the irony is that , even when I notice a lot off a lot people complaining about The Argentinian ways at the end off the they got the best part off the deal....
Cheers
@70
Nov 24th, 2014 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your point might be better understood if you wrote in formal English.
Ilsen
Nov 24th, 2014 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sorry tiping in a small screen is not helping my case...what I was trying to say was :
I think at the end of the day, the people of the falklands Obtained a lot of benefits because of the invasion made by the Argentinians armed forces.
Cheers...
@67
Nov 24th, 2014 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0The parallel US$ market has been there a loooooong time, when I was in Argentina in 1967 you had the “blue” then, so it has nothing to do with this Administation, it has to do with the mistrust of the Argentine Peso.
@64 : Tourist numbers are down , not helped by the motochorro “ El Conejo ” Aguirre being filmed committing armed robbery going viral .
Nov 24th, 2014 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57yHqU2e64w
Or the fucking idiots from Quebracho intimidating cruise ship tourists :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57yHqU2e64w
Or the multitude of news organizations in Argentina that give the Quebracho idiots free publicity that then goes viral too .
Argentines are the architects of their own downfall , not the UK , the US or the Martians , the Illuminati , Opus Dei or the Masons .
@64 I agree that Argentina has some natural beauty but numbers of visitors are falling. Iguazu is the fourth largest in the world, I have been there and it is worth a visit but you can do it in a day from the Brazilian side also. The glaciers too are stunning but can be seen from Chile. The best ski resorts? So, speaks a man who has never visited decent ski resorts. Seriously, the Argentine resorts are not all that and I have skied in many countries. Whales can be seen in so many places, as can penguins.
Nov 24th, 2014 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where do you get your information from? And you miss the point.
During the month or so that I have been here in Chile I have met actual tourists, PC, that have come from Argentina. Do you know what they all had in common? Every one of them had been the victim of some crime whilst in Argentina. Mugged in the street or scammed in a taxi. None seriously hurt but all wishing they had known how at risk they were there. By comparison Chile was, as one couple put it, 'heaven'.
As the economic situation worsens in Argentina so will tourism decline.
Even the whales are seeking political asylum from the proyecto :
Nov 24th, 2014 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.essexcountystandard.co.uk/news/11609819.Whales_spotted_off_Mersea_Island/
elaina, elaina....since when you can see the glaciar perito moreno, which is the best in the world by far, mostly when collapsing, from the chilean side?
Nov 24th, 2014 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0name another placein south america where you can almost touch the whales like in puerto madryn.
about skiing, guess you are the typical rookie, otherwise you should know that las leñas is one of the best spots for extreme skiing.
only comparable with chamonix but with a lot better nightlife.
and surely all those crimes you are talking about were committed by the typical delincuente chileno or colombiano, but they are being deported en masse since last month.
and chile is the most insecure country of the southern cone,
“En la Mira ”Pungas de exportación“, delincuentes chilenos que atacan en Argentina”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08eX69Rx0Y
“Alemania advierte a sus viajeros sobre los robos con violencia a turistas en Chile”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08eX69Rx0Y
do you read spanish or any other language than english, you cosmopolitan girl?
paulcedron also known as mamarracho No.1
Nov 24th, 2014 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whales can be seen closely and in abundance off the coast of Ecuador from the city of Manta; also Mexico and California both offer great whales sighting areas.
Colombia also offers skiing facilities - how good are they? I don't know as I am not a skier.
You cannot deny that Argentina is a crime free country - that is plain nonsense as are as most of your postings.
gordo big ball of fat
Nov 24th, 2014 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you have never been to argentina, ecuador, colombia, mexico, california, etc.
all you know is pork stanley.
so shut it
The gift that keeps on giving. ;)
Nov 24th, 2014 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/175533/government-insists-bbc-apologize-for-top-gear-incident
Paulcedron : The odious Aguirre attempting to defend his actions .
Nov 24th, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c_GnV4P9VQ
He isn't Chilean and you know it .
Stop trying to defend the indefensible and lowering yourself to insults.
@81
Nov 24th, 2014 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's not Chilean, he's a member of Vatayon Militante, which makes him a criminal recruited to work for the Ks on government payroll. The man's just doing his job. ;)
http://sumateacristina.net/group/vatayon
October 2014 South Georgia News and Events:
Nov 24th, 2014 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- GSGSSI Enters a Brave New World… of Twitter
- Heroes of the Imperial Trans-Antarctic – New Stamp Release
- Fishing and Shipping News
- Rodent Incursion Response At King Edward Point
- Dick Laws Obituary
- Grytviken On Google Streetview
- New Book: Viola – The Life and Times of a Hull Steam Trawler
- Bird Island Diary
- South Georgia Snippets
http://www.sgisland.gs
@79 mamarracho No.1
Nov 24th, 2014 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have never set foot in the British territory of the Falkland Islands. And I certainly have no wish to visit the pariah country of Argentina.
At this very moment I am typing this in Central America and in a few days I shall be in Panamá where my wife and I are going to make a transit of the canal from the Pacific to the Caribbean.
As as your assumption about my visits to certain countries - I can assure you that I have visited all the territories that you mention with exception, thank the Lord, of Argentina. I have also worked in a couple of them for several years, Colombia and Ecuador.
You really arean incorrigible idiot!
84 stinky big ball of fat:
Nov 24th, 2014 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“At this very moment I am typing this in Central America and in a few days I shall be in Panamá where my wife and I are going to make a transit of the canal from the Pacific to the Caribbean.”
yeah, right...LOL
I wonder if “stinky big ball of fat” may be considered ad hominem? If so then the Moderator may care to take action.
Nov 24th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I he doesn't take action then I will feel totally free to call you a “boludo de m----a”!
@85
Nov 24th, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah poor little Pablo, schoolboy insults again.
You are really stretching your skills with “stinky big ball of fat”
@82 : It looks like a political version of Bebo , mostly for teenage girls and African scammers !
Nov 24th, 2014 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paul is trapped in Argentina due to his work, or lack of work, situation.
Nov 24th, 2014 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0While struggling to put food on the table he has little time to imagine travelling anywhere. His government has successfully shaped his expectations to be more limited than ours.
We are watching PC have another meltdown.
Nov 24th, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The frequency of PC's meltdowns is increasing. He used to be able to hold a conversation, now it is just lies and bile.
Nov 24th, 2014 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shall we send him some Gaviscon in the next food parcel?
they are at it again ?????
Nov 24th, 2014 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After Spanish provocation, Govt commissions expert to define ‘innocent passage’ at sea
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=35032
The Government said last night that it has commissioned a legal opinion on the definition of
innocent passage
7.30am and 8.00am practically every day there is an incursion into BGTW which could be classed as a patrol.Spanish state vessels have entered BGTW 69 times so far in November. This has included the Guardia Civil, Salvamento Maritimo, the Spanish navy, the Servicio de Vigilancia Aduanera, a Fisheries protection vessel and a survey vessel. There was a Class A incursion by the Spanish navy vessel SPS Alboran on Thursday where the vessel maintained when challenged that it was in Spanish waters. The Alboran (P62) is a 66 metre Chilreu class patrol boat.”
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Ministry of Defence confirms future submarine basing plan
Two Trafalgar Class submarines will move from Her Majesty’s Naval Base Devonport to Her Majesty’s Naval Base Clyde in another step towards HMNB Clyde becoming the Royal Navy’s submarine centre
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=35032
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Contract signed for first production batch of F-35B aircraft
The Ministry of Defence (MOD) has signed a contract for the first production batch of 4 Lightning II stealth combat aircraft – which will operate from both the Royal Navy’s new aircraft carriers and Royal Air Force (RAF) land bases
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=35032
@88
Nov 24th, 2014 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps a touch more disturbing than that. ;)
http://www.pulsamerica.co.uk/2012/08/06/argentina-controversy-over-prisoners-at-political-events/
“”“”do you have something similar in the islets? lol“”“
Nov 24th, 2014 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no, but then they also didn't have to commit genocide to be able to claim that they have...
whereas.. you and yours... did.
How do you say ”Argentina isn't Argentinas”? in Spanish?
Argentina no es argentina.
Nov 24th, 2014 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0es espanol
ji ji!
:-)
@94
Nov 25th, 2014 - 04:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0And you didn't commit genocide?
BTW, your country is on fire on my television set tonight. :)
Also, the Falklanders did commit genocide, just because they didn't kill humans doesn't mean that they didn't radically change the Islands to suit their settlement purposes by exterminating local life.
@96
Nov 25th, 2014 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Warra load of rubbish, as usual.
As usual? I always state the unmentioned facts from the anti-Argentines here, who sanctify the Falklanders and demonize the Argentines.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0BTW, they sure take a long time to put out fires in the USA, or are they new fires...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-opY4qcidFk
#96
Nov 25th, 2014 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your English comprehension is at fault again.
Genocide applies to humans only. viz:-
“The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of an entire national, racial, religious, or ethnic group.”
I will issue a sign which states as follows:
Nov 25th, 2014 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“BUCKINGHAN PALACE IS MINE - PAY ME A RENT, ELIZABETH II !!!”
According to the Arg gov, this will work !!!!!!
Get your wallet ready, Elizabeth, you owe me lots of pounds in unpaid rents ;)
Some would say that it should belong to the Duke of Buckingham. .. but that's another story.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-))
@ 101 hahahah !
Nov 25th, 2014 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@98
Nov 26th, 2014 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0“... demonize the Argentines.”
Never , I merely point out their all to common human characteristics. Is there a problem? ;)
@98
Nov 26th, 2014 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fires in Ferguson, therefore nothing can be wrong in Argentina.
Phew, thank goodness for that!
Dick in the dark @96 & 98..
Nov 26th, 2014 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Genocide is the systematic destruction of all or a significant part of a racial, ethnic, religious or national group. Well-known examples of genocide include the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide, and more recently the Rwandan genocide.”
So actually, no. The falkland islanders and their descendants have NEVER committed genocide. You can't simply redefine definitions to suit your own agenda you twat.
As for fires in the USA, so what? You should be thanking the UK and USA for the fact you even have one and then be thanking the British even further for the fact you can jump on line to brag about the fact you have a telly.. What has Argentina ever done for the world? Oh that's right, invented corn beef... Thanks guys. Where ever would be be with out that horrible muck.
@105
Nov 26th, 2014 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's start a competition about the inventions that are of Argentinian origen that has changed the world . I will start the ball rolling
1) Errrrm, errrrrm, sorry i can't think of on off the top of my head, ANYONE?
@105
Nov 26th, 2014 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wasn't corned beef invented for British sailors? I ask because I haven't researched it, but have a hunch it was.
@106 golfcronie
I hope the Malvanistas can help out as I can't think of anything that hasn't been copied.
Aren't some of their military tactics original, like occupying an island without employing regular patrolling, using OPs? Though you did say inventions that have changed the world-someone else please, I give up.
@107
Nov 27th, 2014 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like they have nothing to offer the world, no wonder the FALKLANDS want nothing to do with them.
They have invented a new form of pointless bus-signage.... I'm sure that will be recorded in history as ....
Nov 29th, 2014 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0... umm...
sorry, got distracted there by a bummble-bee, oh hang on, yes bus-signage, must look at that, but I am more worried about being mugged for my worthless pesos, maybe the 'motochorros' can get these signs too....? After all, I wouldn't won't to be robbed by some-one who isn't loyal to the regime, since I have now accepted that if the regime doesn't rob me, the youth will...
ahh, 'viva la patria'....
As for the invention of the most tools in the modern Emergency and Operation room of any hospital... ever heard of Finnochietto?
Nov 29th, 2014 - 04:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for the first stable helicopter flight, ever heard of Raul Pateras-Pescara?
As for the modern writing tool without inking jet to a feather, ever heard of where Lazlo Biro and where the first successful products of his were sold?
As for using blood transfusion to save your life, you know Luis Agote and also where the first transfusion of PURE blood without sodium dilution for preservation was made?
As for modern commercial radio, you know WHERE the first permanent broadcast was aired on August 27, 1920?
As for the modern criminal investigation system with fingerprinting, you know who Juan Vucetich was and which was the first country to use this technology?
As for modern screw caps that are sealed and you can twist to break the neck off, know where they were first used?
As for the world's first animated film, know where that idea was first developed to be shown as a feature film?
As for the world's first burned skin healing patch, know where that was first used?
You know where the first practical holding case for pacemarkers was developed?
Wanna know from what country the man with the idea for coronary bypass surgery by grafting hails from, last name Favaloro, first name Rene, which made this surgery not only far safer but more affordable by using tissue from the patient itself, thus avoiding rejection and costly artificial components? It has saved millions of people since?
Care to find out the pioneer of laser-optics for eye correction, btw he has his main offices in MENDOZA, Dr. Zaldivar, Roberto, and has treated celebrities and politicians from the world over?
What about the only country with NASA and ESA approved satellite component makers?
I think its funny you northern losers for years have said Argentina has brought nothing to the world, because twats you are and twats you remain.
@110
Nov 29th, 2014 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0You forgot to mention Argentina is one of the world's foremost providers of Internet comedians.
Sounds like most of those things were done when the USA/UK ran Argentina.
Nov 29th, 2014 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Got anything worthwhile in the last 75yrs?
The other little problem, most of those were not commercialized so there's no income to the country.
Argentina has only 24 patents issued in 2011, 2x than Sri Lanka and 3x than Bermuda.
Bahahahahahaha
@110 Trolly
Nov 30th, 2014 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right about Finochietto and Raul Paters Pescara, but way off the mark with Lazlo Biro. He was Hungarian, and invented the first biro pen in 1931, patented it in Paris in 1938, and only in 1943 did he and his brother emmigrate to Argentina. So, not invented by an Argentine, nor even IN the Argentine.
As to a couple of your other claims, such as “As for modern commercial radio, you know WHERE the first permanent broadcast was aired on August 27, 1920?”
Ok, it was in Argentina, but WHERE is IRrelevant …what matters is WHO invented the radio ? Marconi, and he was Italian……not Argentine...or can't you tell the difference ?
“As for modern screw caps that are sealed and you can twist to break the neck off, know where they were first used?” First of all, you don’t “break the neck off” the bottle, you moron - well, maybe YOU do - you break the seal on the screwcap, to open the bottle. As to WHERE they were first used, the 'modern' screwcap (Stelvin screwcap) was developed in the late 60's by a French company (La Bouchage Mecanique), and was first used in 1970 with a Swiss wine. It was adopted commercially in Australia in the mid 70’s, and it was Australia and New Zealand that put it on the map as far as the wine industry is concerned. So where did you get the notion it had anything to do with Argentina ? Why are you such a stinking liar ??
@113
Dec 01st, 2014 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fool was getting all excited recently that some hotels had bidets. As if that were the height of modernity, and Argentina was leading the way.
That no other country in Lat Am, or probably the world had them.
I think he must have seen one, or a photo of one, and got overexcited.
Bidets! Modern! The latest thing!
Umm.... not for the French I'm sure.....
T'was funny.
I have only just stopping giggling about it.
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