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Falklands' reference in BBC Top Gear Argentina program: no end to controversy
Ambassador Alicia Castro has addressed a letter directly to the Chair of the BBC Trust requesting formal apologies for the “false and biased” account reported on the BBC program “Top Gear” filmed in Argentina, and in a veiled subtle way ends hoping that the long established relationship between Argentina and the BBC, “will continue to blossom in the future”. Read full article
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Nov 25th, 2014 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone new that the Ks would extend this rubbish like chewing gum and make a drama about it...
As if there wasn't far more important fronts to attend to
Argentina doesn't pay the BBC's bills.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0WHO CARES what she thinks.
oooooooooh!
Nov 25th, 2014 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0So now, according to MP she is “in a veiled subtle way” threatening the BBC?
I'm sure they care, not!
lol!
As reported elsewhere, hours ago, the BBC have filed this in the 'green-ink'/looney-tunes folder.
This has all been reported in the better newspapers, and all the tabloids, and I doubt the BBC can possibly back down now as it would cause an outrage in the UK, (albeit a very polite, restrained one!).
Love or loathe Jeremy Clarkson, the quickest way for the BBC to lose its licence-fee payers would be to support the point-of-view of the Argentine Gov.
Meanwhile, poor Alicia is just adding to the publicity for the programme, which by now, I expect, is going to be the most watched 'Christmas-Special'.
I, for one, will be tuning in. Gonna be a classic. Not my usual fare, I'll admit, but Argentina has made it big. To their detriment, no doubt.
Only Argentina could turn something positive into a negative so decisively.
When the Argentinean government return the stolen items from Falklander's homes that are being displayed in Argentina, I think we might all be able to even begin to take any idea of outrage seriously.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh no, actually that would not even begin to touch on the level of repentance they need to reach.
Ah yes a return to “Forever Wars.” Hope you are ready for the overall cost.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 02:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0The government of tierra del fuego incited mob hatred FACT ... wether the number plate issue was a coincidence or staged jibe there is no excuse for premeditated coordinated campora gangsters armed with pickaxe handles looking for blood.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0The whole malvinas issue is a state sponsored historic twist of the truth forced down the throats of schoolchildren and now commuters and travelling tourists alike ... shame on you Argentina you are meant to be an educated nation but you vote for corrupt children who destroy your countries reputation.
please can you clean up all those landmines you planted on a island inhabited by peaceful hard working honest people
Top gear gives the world a great insight into how our government functions with it's Kampora thugs and corruption.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just another diversion tactic by Kristina to keep the news off her theft of our tax payers money.
Don't sweat it, I like Jeremy Clarkson and glad they are showing the program for the world to see.
@7
Nov 25th, 2014 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0The world? Who had heard about this show in Argentina before this act of British aggression?
No one even know it existed.
@8 Its a very popular TV show worldwide, so much so that the US, Australia and China have there own versions. You obviously wouldn't know this as it must be hard to get TV reception in the slum you live in. How long do you own a TV before the scum next door comes and steals it, at least you can read the Malvinas signs on your shitty public transport
Nov 25th, 2014 - 03:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Nov 25th, 2014 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry to tell you, but “worldwide” can only be worldwide if it is something heard and known in every corner and every town on this planet. If not, it isn't. It's a simple vocabulary word, honest. “Worldwide” = everywhere in the world.
Anywhere where it isn't, then it isn't.
It's like saying “someone is somewhat dead”. Either you are dead, or your aren't.
All your other insults are the product of your resentment that in fact this show was unknown to 99% of Argentines until the incident. Nothing to be ashamed of, we have our own powerful media and music culture. In fact most people in Argentina wouldn't know who Taylor Swift is... I learned about her only late last year, when I was told she was some sort of world superstar, something to which I chuckled.
Tobias.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Top Gear is a worldwide programme, something that spans the world, thus worldwide.
And you should thank your beloved useless ambassador for continuing to keep Argentina's humiliation in the public eye, it will ensure that more people 'worldwide' watch it, and see what nazi-like people you are.
Of course, not all Argentines are nazi-like thugs, but as they say, 1st impressions last, and for many people 'worldwide' this will be the 1st time they have ever seen anything of Argentina and it's people.
Of course, Tobias, you don't care about what the rest of the world thinks about you (except that you really, really do, no matter how much you 'protest' to the contrary) so feel free not to watch it.
But people will be watching the show on every continent, including your 'brothers' in South America. No doubt they can't wait to see Argentina's very public humiliation. And all of it brought about by yourselves.
I read this online last night, with two points coming to mind.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0First, there was no mention of the violence directed against the film crew. No apology, no diplomatic attempt at reconciliation whatsoever for the attacks, and damage. Everything is all BBC's fault, according to Ambassador Castro.
Second, is the veiled, childish threat by Ambassador Castro. In essence, if you don't apologize for the damage and injuries we caused to happen on your people, I'll punish you even further. No more BBC documentaries authorized in Argentina, for example. Does our southern neighbor have that much to offer ? Really ?
I would much prefer new television programs on Chile, Peru, Ecuador, central America, North America, Asia, Oceania, Africa, The Mid East, and Europe, for a change. With the entire world out there open and accommodating for television exposure including countries like North Korea,, where is the great loss or negative here ?
If there are no more Patagonian documentaries on Discovery Brasil except re-runs for a decade or five, will the great Nations start trembling, and the earth stop rotating ?.
Wriggle, squirm, threaten and attempt to bully. Thankfully the BBC is not going to stand for the aggression and lies. Argentina needs to grow up and apologise for putting people's lives in danger. What a stunt to try to pull.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4 screenname
Nov 25th, 2014 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0'When the Argentinean government return the stolen items from Falklander's homes that are being displayed in Argentina,”
Yep, I've seen stuff openly labled as looted on display in the old jail in Ushuaia.
That castro bitch really should be de-barked.....
Toby, Top Gear is transmitted in 170 countries worldwide, its incredible that you 'claim' to have never heard of it. Its just like your 'claim' to live in Mendoza - total bullshit! Have a look at Argentinas cable channels, you will find it.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for Castro… .Bahahahahaha.
And, it has just been announced that Top Gears Christmas special is the episode on Argentina! Worldwide exposure of Argentina's thuggery to 750 million people!!!
Top Gear is a childish programme and Argentina has some very childish politicians.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dear Ms Castro
Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0We received your letter dated 21st of November. Thank you for raising concerns as to whether the number plate used on a Porsche during the filming of Top Gear in Argentina H982FKL was a reference to the Falklands conflict or not.
I would like to take this opportunity to remind you that the falklands conflict in 1982 was a deliberate and vicious act of aggression perpetrated by the State of Argentina against a small island island community in the South Atlantic, NOT as you have insinuated a war started by the UK in sinking of the General belgrano. Please could you at your earliest convience make a public statement retracting this falsehood, either deliberate or accidental.
Secondly, it is clear from our footage that Argentine citizens attacked the BBC crew in Patagonia with intent both to cause damage to property and risk the lives of our employees. I note your threat to stop BBC activities in Patagonia in the future, well, given that the thuggary, violence and state sponsored attempted murder of our employees during the filming of Top Gear, Iam not sure it would be beneficial for us to film there either.
May I also take this opportunity to advise the Ambassador that the BBC has commissioned a full and detailed historic account of the TRUE history of the Falklands, not the propaganda version that you indoctrinate children with in Argentina. This account will tackle one by one the myths and lies spread by successive Argentine governments, whilst it may not dent the cult and brainwashing in Argentina, it may assist the Falkland islanders in their quest to be left alone from Argentine lies and bullying.
I trust this response finds you in good health,
regards BBC Trust
#4
Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is out of complete ignorance, but what property did they take and how is it displayed?
I think that the vehicle tyres were worn probably below whatever Argentina considers its illegal (if any) limit; and how efficient were the brakes? The government of Argentina should look into this. Also, it could be that Mr Clarkson had fuel smuggled into Argentina from the Falklands. The speculations and possibilities for diplomatic pressure on the UK are endless..it seems,
Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0@10 recall Top Gear being put in the Guinness book of records for being the most widely watched factual programme in the world....so I guess there isn't anything that is worldwide then.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0@11
Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry to break your bubble, but if people in Argentina didn't know of it, then it is not worldwide. 170 countries is not worldwide.
“1st time they have ever seen anything of Argentina and it's people.”
You poor doltish dunce willed with foolish fancies. I think you will find that this is utter BS on your part. According to reports, a total of 2.7 BILLION people saw something about Argentina during the months of June and July in 7 different sporting telecasts.
I'm OK with no more BBC in Argentina, ban ALL British tv from Argentina. Not needed, don't bring anything positive anyway.
I want to see more documentaries from the USA. Is it still burning tonight?
Clarkson.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Co-incidental.
...nope.
One wing of the old jail...which by memory is star shaped ( you can google earth it) is given over to a museum. Another unheated wing is as it was.... fmtt... talk about cruel and unusual punishment... cold as charity on a hot day....
Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anywaze... lots of interesting stuff in the different cells about the history of Ush and the jail and so on.. all good thus far.
But one cell has a display labeled , paraphrasing here , 'Things looted from a house in Port Stanley ( they used a made up name, Puerto something or other) and has bank notes , coins, personal bits and pieces, on display with a sign “donated by a thieving dago cunt* whose name escapes me right now”
* an ' RG war hero ' is what I think it actually said....
Ushuaia is the only place I have ever seen a naval officer ( Prefectura) openly pocket money that wasn't his....
'sorry but its after hours you must pay overtime for clearance'
'OK' ,
'Do you want a receipt ?',
'No' .. I hand over about $5 US...
TDC in uniform looks around furtively and then slides the $5 into his pocket...
Not even enough class to leave it on his desk until I had left the room....
This is just one of those classic and amusing “Argentina” stories.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentines behaved like animals and then the Argentine government demands the BBC makes an apology for allegedly inspiring that behaviour.
It was originally scheduled to be aired in spring but has shown up on the Christmas schedules now. The average worldwide audience is 250m+ I wonder if this will crack half a billion? That'd be C.5% of the entire world.
# 21. Was the event you are referring to when Argentina got thrashed when 22 millionaires were kicking an inflated pigs bladder around a field? How was that a worldwide event? More people watch the millionaires in the English Premier League every week than watched that, and, some of your citizens play in it, because it is the most widely watched series of so called sporting events in the world.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you got a ban on BBC programmes in Argentina many would watch through the internet just like they do in your best friend countries, North Korea, Iran and Cuba - you know, the axis of evil. As it is most Argies are totally compus mentus unlike yourself and are only too happy to continue watching Jeremy Clarkson and David Attenborough. Meanwhile, continue watching Jackanory!
Ratings bonanza. Job done.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Many Brits and Falkland Islanders would love to watch this with Jeremy.The Argentines are once again going to look like a nation of unsophisticated teenage hooligans on the world stage. The Argentine Embarrassment Agency can go to hell along with their tragic puppet, Alicia.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0On a sci fi website thats not based in the uk they are already making posts on how jezza will troll argentina.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Top gear is a very silly programme usually they make themsleves look total pratts only this time argentina beat even the southern american rednecks in looking stupid.
I just did an exercise with my own car number plate, which is a random assortment of numbers and letters as is the case with most of our cars, and had no problem inventing about 20 connotations that would be offensive to somebody with enough imagination to see the supposed hidden meaning. I'll bet anyone on this thread could do the same. If people want to read something insulting into something like a number plate, they will.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0#10
Nov 25th, 2014 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry to tell you, but “worldwide” can only be worldwide if it is something heard and known in every corner and every town on this planet. If not, it isn't. It's a simple vocabulary word, honest. “Worldwide” = everywhere in the world.
Anywhere where it isn't, then it isn't.
If this is the case then why does your government continually say that the whole world agrees with Argentina in the case of the Falklands when it does not ? I am sure that there are many places in Africa who have no idea of Argentina's existence.....lucky them !
Your governments assertions are also taken up as gospel by your fellow Argentinian posters.....enough said !
As far as the whole “worldwide” debate - I can still remember the Christmas special from a couple of years ago when they tried to recreate the three wise men's trip from northern Iraq to Bethlehem (in second-hand two seat convertibles costing less than £3,500) and they tried (unsuccessfully) to sneak across Syria (apparently the Israelis can be a bit difficult about allowing vehicles that have even been to Syria into Israel).
Nov 25th, 2014 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Their attempts to be incognito failed miserably, when there was a welcoming party at their hotel in Damascus.
No mention of the unjustified attacks on the Top Gear crew by various cultists of the Malvinas Lie.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's pretty much the same tact as Castro takes when discussing their two (so far) attempts to usurp the Falklands. Downplay or ignore their wrongdoing and attempt to make themselves the wounded party, when in fact they were the aggressors.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - If Kirchener Castro et al want a full discussion on the Falklands and related subjects, they must first agree to stop lying.
This just goes to show they're a long ways off from that...
WTF am I going to do? My licence plate has an F in it. Maybe someone will link it to the Falklands and come after me :)
Nov 25th, 2014 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think we should have a conference to talk this through and i would recommend its held in El Calafate as there are lots of free rooms in the hotels which have been paid for by Lázaro Báez and sponsored by Hotesur SA. Booking dot com even confirm that its free !!! “ Alto Calafate Hotel, El Calafate. No reservation costs ” :-)
Nov 25th, 2014 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21 Tobias
Nov 25th, 2014 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lots of Argentines watch Top Gear, just because YOU haven't heard of it before doesn't count for anything.
I remember it was only a few years ago that you were 'bragging' about Mendoza having supermarkets...like they were something unusual.
What you don't know about the world is vast, but the rest of the world, including many of your fellow Argentines, aren't as ignorant as you are.
And the impact to the BBC of Argentina not getting BBC programmes is...NOTHING. Your country really isn't a big market anyway. But the rest of your South American countrymen will be laughing at Argentina when the Top Gear episode is released.
And then the effect that the bad publicity from this show could have on Argentina's floundering tourism industry is huge, and will mean more unemployed mouths to feed, with ever dwindling reserves.
It's not a good place to be in.
Hahaha, it's getting aired as the Christmas edition, the comedy continues :-)
Nov 25th, 2014 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-30190663
CONFIRMED: Alicia Castro works for BBC. Well done, Mrs Castro ! now more and more people will watch that show.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don´t forget to thank the angry mob who attacked the cars also.
What a great service all of you did to your country, fellas ! (sarcasm: on)
@37
Nov 25th, 2014 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, those 20 year old “Malvinas veterans” did a great job, another fine “wildlife” program by the BBC.
The next allegation is going to be that the BBC owns Clarin , or vice versa .
Nov 25th, 2014 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17MM : Brilliant response and I hope the BBC use it .
BBC is clearly a spineless organisation. If the response had been “of course it was a 1982 Falkland reference; so?” BBC would at least deserve some credit for being honest. In today's over-litigated reality, however, such honesty doesn't have any place anymore, so grown men must lie pathetically as displayed to perfection by MM. Clarkson and Cohen.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@40
Nov 25th, 2014 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or maybe they don't warrant any response at all, who gives a damn what they think. I will survive my Sunday evenings without David Attenborough narrating about mating Patagonian Boobies.
mating Patagonian Boobies?
Nov 25th, 2014 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Something that rotting roadkill does better than anyone else in the world:
Nov 25th, 2014 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Take an impossibly bleak situation and make it even worse on theirselves than anyone had previously thought possible. Due to your persistance in defeat and dishonor - I now know who Mr. Clarkson is and am preparing to watch my first episode of his program. And I also understand that he is being considered for a “K”?
rotting roadkill and the rotting roadkillians:
You Gringo Amigos salute you!
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAALUTE!
For a maximum audience The BBC will screen this top gear special over the Christmas period-looks like the red headed single parent x flight attendant they call Alicia Castro will be a long time dead before any apology comes her nasty little way.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/video-drive-down-w-florissant-past-burning-buildings-and-cars/html_e2bd0b30-9cd4-522e-83fc-6a4344345eb1.html
Nov 25th, 2014 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Burn baby burn... Funny that the two worst RACIAL riots of the last 5 years have been in the two largest ANGLO countries.
UK 2011, USA 2014.
Burn baby burn LOL
@45
Nov 25th, 2014 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From a country that ethnically cleansed its own indigenous population and provided a forever home to the worst perpetrators of the holocaust.
@ 45 Troll in The Dark
Nov 25th, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see your next psychological breakdown is just around the corner by the look of it.
I cannot wait for the new rising from the pit that you seem to manage at regular intervals: any chance of a preview?
Better still, shall we run a sweepstake on the likely new incarnation?
“Two Brains TTT, no waiting for hsyteria”?
@45
Nov 25th, 2014 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope you have a merry christmas and watch out for the burning tyres on your way home. Just a thought.
8 Troll in The Dark
Nov 25th, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The world? Who had heard about this show in Argentina before this act of British aggression?”
Such an apt name that Tobi has chosen for himself this time round don't you think?
“Troll in the dark” indeed!!! All you can do is deflect, deflect, deflect and name call so you are indeed a Troll.
Your ignorance is the stuff of legends!! and to say you have never heard of Top Gear....... Well... “Stumbling blindly you go marching on” You are forever in the dark Tobi. The light of education is unable to penetrate down to the depths that you have sunk to.
Ambassador Alicia Castro ,,,,apparently is stalking the BBC , and Clarkson , and the UN , the Airwaves , the gutters, etc etc,
Nov 25th, 2014 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0apparently they have robots watching and listening for anything being said abt Argentina,
they care not if it is mentioned by any other human, other than the nasty British,
we thought stalking was illegal ,lol
besides , why is it ok for Argentina to slag of the Falkland's and the British at every opportunity they can ,
but the brits are not aloud to mention Argentina ,
or are the rumors true,
that the argentine government thinks they are a protected species..
soddy offy...
I am so looking forward to the Top Gear Christmas Special, I hope they show all the stone throwing “ 20 year old VETERANS”, should be a hoot. Anyone know when it is scheduled to be shown?
Nov 25th, 2014 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can't wait to see the Top Gear Xmas special-and the negative publicity Argentina will give itself will cause it some aggro.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Castro will just make the viewing figures better and better by banging on about it.
And the Falkland Islanders can say with total justification -another good reason why we don't want to be ruled by these idiots.
What's the betting that Castro finally realises what arses Top Gear are going to make of Argentina's thugs and attempts to get the Xmas Special pulled?
At the end of the day Argentina was caught with its pantsdown and embarrassed itself on one of the most popular TV shows in the world. OK it doesn't get as much coverage as the World Cup final but it comes pretty close and gets repeated far more often.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Typically Argentina cannot admit its wrong or make an apology. Instead it tries to tell a lie (surprise). Let's ignore the video footage and the footprint of what was said and written on the internet by the perpetrators and agitators. However the UK has the most generous libel laws in the world. If they thought they had a defence then bring it on. Personally I love to see a nation embarrassing itself. I must remember to record top gear so I can watch it again.
“false and biased”
Nov 25th, 2014 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pretty much the entire Malvinas myth. Every Argentine presentation at the UN, every Argentine brainwashing child education, Every Argentine news story, every piece of Argentine propaganda.
“false and biased”
The entire Kirchner regime, Argentine economic statistics, Argentine evidence in their debt repayments case, argentine business and legal transactions.
“false and biased”
Think, Jose, Marcos, vestige, Dany et al.....
Ms Castro, you are in the biggest glass house hurling rocks.
Argentine is built on “false and biased”, it's history is fals and biased, it's present is false and biased.....it is unthinkable that there is a more “false and biased” society on the planet...
For an Ambassador, Castro is quite dumb, and cheeky..... She must be as thick as two short planks if she doesn't realize it's the BBC's prerrogative to reply to her “request” with a big, fat “NO”, and end of story......but being the unskilled diplomat that she is, sounds like she's gonna insist until the cows come home....... but who the hell cares ?
Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ms Castro
Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you think that the 20 year old “ Veterans” were acting a bit over the top regarding a number plate? As a way of a gift I am sending you a number plate which will adequately suit you. A 55 OLE on my old Ford Cortina. ENJOY
The report in Clarin.
Nov 25th, 2014 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some interesting comments posted
“My brother died in 1982 defending those grungy islets, which are not worth one drop of blood Argentina. Instead of doing something for the millions of square kilometers have, look at that inert piece of nothingness itself.
It gives me exactly the same who is the government of the islands where an Argentine never lived there, no real tradition or family with history, nothing. Just repetitive nationalist and stultifying cult that was used to rally the masses always behind spurious purposes. In nothing would change our everyday life, full of problems to solve right now and here.
I'll wait to see the BBC, with shame employed by the futile assault who received instead of, in any case, have responded with height and irony, like them.”
“It is the most sensible comment I have read and with which I fully agree. The Malvinas are Argentine no more. The Argentina's definitely lost for wanting to settle the issue by force of arms. In that case international law gives the reason the winner, ie the UK. .On The other hand, what the fuck we need the islands when Patagonia is almost empty? It is regrettable that eternally lives of so many soldiers on land, sea and air have been lost in vain.”
http://www.clarin.com/politica/Malvinas-BBC-Top_Gear-programa_0_1255074659.html
57 - keep telling yourself that. The Malvinas are and will always be Argentine.
Nov 26th, 2014 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://cepeoffice.com/2012/08/09/the-falkland-islands-diplomatic-dispute-between-great-britain-and-argentina/
@38
Nov 26th, 2014 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have you actually read the rubbish that is written in this Article?
This Romanian “Center for European Policy Evaluation” sounds grand but what international creditability does it actually have?
The Islands are not Argentinean and will never be.
Anyone know if is possible to see the episode of top gear Patagonia online? (concrete data, without insults please)
Nov 26th, 2014 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Patagonia is the most beautiful region of Argentina and is widely visited by thousands of domestic and foreign tourists since the 50s and 60s, the boom of tourism in Patagonia already a fact long ago, years after years the tourist packages are increasingly more accessible, such as a trip to visit San Carlos de Bariloche (which has very similar Central Europe landscapes ) of duration seven days from my city, in summer (what is called low season) costs $ 3,500 Argentine pesos (ie less half of a monthly salary), which is extremely economical, includes transportation, breakfast, dinner and excursions.
For over 10 years now the tourism sector in Argentina has become perhaps the most dynamic and accessible for the Argentine lower middle class and even more for foreigners due to the ratio peso dollar or euro.
Even to the surprise of many of us, many English tourists visit Patagonia, which are well received and welcome.
This will allow check to British citizens and islanders, who us, the “Argies”, are not, which normally are published in comments on notes of Mercopress
My estimated Ilsen, believe me, you would be memorable picnic on the shores of Lake Nahuel Huapi
http://www.welcomeargentina.com/bariloche/fotografias.html
OMG Sallus
Nov 26th, 2014 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stop posting bloody blogs! They are nothing but someone's opinion. They are not peer-reviewed!
Indeed it reads like a first year university paper by a ESL student. Indeed here is her LinkedIn
https://ro.linkedin.com/pub/teona-sandra-andronache/51/22b/363
“keep telling yourself that. The Malvinas are and will always be Argentine.”
And how is that working out for Argentina right now? It's 2014 and Argentina has nothing to show for decades of whinging!
@61 Skip
Nov 26th, 2014 - 03:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's typical in that they find a headline that fits their purpose and post the link without have read the article or checked the source.
#58
Nov 26th, 2014 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mate, you did not read very much of the argument, it concludes the FI should become independent. Not very consistent with your idea that the islands are Argentine and the Islanders have no human rights.
@58
Nov 26th, 2014 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0It seems the article is proposing much the same kind of approach as was enacted with the Menem government and subsequently ripped up by Nestor K.
That Great Leap Backwards of Nestor was hardly surprising, it should be obvious to anyone by now that the present iteration of Peronists doesn't actually want dialogue, negotiation or anything that actually would resolve the conflict, they want to perpetuate and inflame the grievance. It's all pretty much Chapter 1 in the Dummy's Guide to Dictatorship and Demagoguery, the amazing thing is how many Argentines are ready to fall for it.
@58 Sallus
Nov 26th, 2014 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Er, did you actually read the text you linked to.
'In my view, I consider of real importance the participation of Falkland Islands (Malvinas) representatives during the negotiations. In fact, Argentina and the United Kingdom are deciding for a population of 3 000, without previously consulting them. As a self-governed state, I do believe that the Falkland Islands should be a part of the negotiating process and of diplomatic relations and cooperation path.'....
...'The last scenario I have thought of is the situation in which the Falkland Islands (Malvinas) will gain their full independence and autonomy. I do consider that this scenario will put an abrupt end to the dispute I detailed previously....
Here is the final sentence of the conclusion...'In what concerns the future development of the Falkland Islands, I do consider that their recently discovered resources and the possibility of gaining their independence will ensure a safe place on the future international political scene'.
In the 3 options for the future of the Islanders that she discusses, the overriding emphasis is that the Islanders need to be included in, and get this, 'talks between the 3 countries'.
Sallus, this blogger is for self determination of the Islanders, only in your deluded universe could you think this helps your argument.
@58 The problem is you seem to think negotiations equals the hand over of the islands to Argentina, that is not how negotiations work, there would have to be some sort of compromise. But we have no reason to negotiate with your tinpot nation, if anything (i believe) the future of the Falklands will be independence, under the protection of the UK.
Nov 26th, 2014 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@66
Nov 26th, 2014 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My thoughts are that the FALKLANDS will ask for independence sometime in 2020 once the flow of oil is established. They will then be able to pay for their own defence out of their budget.
@58
Nov 26th, 2014 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Malvinas are and will always be Argentine.”
Yes, your new Argentine flag with a sheep, The Desire and the Union Jack is so much better than your old Blue and white job with the smiley emoticon on it.
The UK is in a recession, Argentina has been steadily winning on the diplomatic side and the UK just got slammed with more bills, bye bye F-35 and bye bye aircraft carrier. Keep your bags packed.
Nov 26th, 2014 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.economist.com/node/21542183
http://www.economist.com/node/21542183
@69
Nov 26th, 2014 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's Argentina “steadily winning on the diplomatic side”? A 2011 article on the flag ban, which is not only totally ineffectual, but was explicitly intended to have no practical consequence whatsoever?
And what other historic victories has Argentina achieved since that one?
@69 Sallus
Nov 27th, 2014 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where is this information “The UK is in a recession”.?
The economist article of 2011 “a string of small diplomatic victories”
The telegraph article speculates that “it could lead to extra demands for cash from the British taxpayer of up to £34 billion over the next six years”
Back on topic
Top Gear Argentina special to air at Christmas
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-30190663
All you Brit and Flaklands superiority complex people, here is a little dose of reality:
Nov 27th, 2014 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The message is plain: Britain has neither the means nor the will any longer to sustain a capability to commit large troop numbers abroad, in support of the national interest. The historic vision of the redcoat – holding the line at Blenheim, Waterloo, Balaclava; defending Rorke’s Drift for that peerless movie Zulu; fighting to victory in two world wars and countless colonial ''brushfire’’ campaigns – is to be laid to rest.
This momentous decision, with all that it means for our culture and heritage, has been a long time coming. And it raises an important question: what are soldiers for in the 21st century?”
http://news.sky.com/story/1351091/fears-uk-will-be-hit-by-new-euro-recession
http://news.sky.com/story/1351091/fears-uk-will-be-hit-by-new-euro-recession
keep your bags packed.
@46, 47
Nov 27th, 2014 - 04:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/14/kkk-threatens-lethal-force-protesters-ferguson_n_6155570.html
Burn baby Burn :)
I warned yankeeboy and captain poppy to get ready for a civil war, it just started and they don't even know it.
@72
Nov 27th, 2014 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0But I thought Argentina rejected force and only wanted peace?
In any event, budgets are one thing, but apparently it only takes 4 aircraft and a few hundred blokes to terrify an entire continent, and one Jeremy Clarkson to make Argentina a laughing stock in front of the entire world.
Or more correctly, Argentina to make a laughing stock of itself, and Clarkson to show the world, but I'm sure you get my drift. Or you will at Christmas.
Sallus
Nov 27th, 2014 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0So you are admitting that your statement “The UK is in a recession” is not true.
Despite your pathetic attempts at diverting the topic, the truth is that the Top Gear Argentina special will be broadscast over Christmas.
#69
Nov 27th, 2014 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wishful thinking on your part. It doesn't take a large force to defend the Falklands from what ? We have more than enough military force to defend them from a bunch of winging adolescents.
As to military capability we should let the Middle East destroy itself. Israel will take care of any serious trouble there. Her enemies know that she would go nuclear over any serious threat whereas they know the UK would only use them if they were attacked first.
India and China are probably heading for a punch-up. Pakistan seems bent on self destruction.
Japan and the Far East are at loggerheads with China.
Everything looks rosy here.
@76
Nov 27th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uhh... no. The UK was going to use nukes to attack Argentina, it was the other Europeans and the USA who pressured the UK to desist. So you are fully mentally deranged enough to use them as an attack weapon, and everyone knows that because you are a dangerous country.
It seems oddly appropriate that Argentina would an uneducated, former airline stewardess as ambassador to represent its feckless fascist nature in the UK.
Nov 27th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But every time Argentina raises this issue - since it has nothing more serious to discuss - the Top Gear programme grows enormously in popularity. The whole thing is the dream of every public relations manager, to receive the equivalent of millions of pounds in free advertising.
And every time Alicia the Azafata speaks, the world has yet another reason to remember how and why Argentina has become the laughingstock nation of the laughingstock continent.
@77
Nov 27th, 2014 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You probably can read English but your comprehesion skills are zero, where in @76 does he say they would be used as an attack weapon, he said if we were attacked FIRST, used as a defense weapon, you numbnut.
One only sends what is required to cover the needs of a post. If a stewardess was sent to Britain, maybe you should ask yourself why would we think that suffices for representation in the UK.
Nov 27th, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would guess to say probably because the UK is the laughingstock nation of the laughingstock continent whose economy is in freefall, except the UK which is simply growing through another bank bubble (to end soon), and a continent on the verge of yet ANOTHER war of self-destruction.
No wonder we argentines laugh at your continent's inadequacies.
I dont think Sallus @58 actually read the article he linked to - its rather funny in fact that he links to an article that supports the inclusion of the Falklands Islanders in any negotiations and for them to become independent.
Nov 27th, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sallus then, @69 declares the UK in recession - hmm.. factually inaccurate - the UK is one of the few with a growing economy...
and then @72 he declares that the UK is no longer a military power to threaten anybody..
so, one wonders, why does his Government keep bleating on about “military buildup in the region”..?
All in all Sallus is currently 3-nil up for the UK and therefore it must be that he is a double-agent pretending to be Argentine but actually pro-Falkland Islander.
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@77 ah yes, the classic “They were going to nuke us!” claim - proof of? none. Statements of? none. Likelihood of? none.
We were, however, going to bomb the shit out of power stations and hydro-stations but Old Ronnie persuaded the Iron Lady to not do so.
The use of nukes, even the contemplation of such, is so laughable it is utterly juvenile in the extreme... its a nice sound-bite though, so keep pumping out the propaganda and earning your pesos.... anybody with functional grey matter is no so easily brain-washed as the Mavlinistas of “that poor south american country currently filled with spanish squatters who committed genocide against the indigenous peoples”
commonly called “Argentina”... friend to Nazis, holocaust deniers and the worlds best example of government by populism.
Long live the Argentine Ministry of Thought.
@81
Nov 27th, 2014 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argies on here are not very good at argueing are they?
81 - Anbar al Arabe - You arguments are about the most stupid ones that I have ever seen, even among all the pro UK posters on this anonymous forum. These are all British and American Articles, so your moronic statement and I quote, “use of nukes, even the contemplation of such, is so laughable it is utterly juvenile in the extreme”
Nov 27th, 2014 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here is your nuke article (I am sure that Franccois Mitterand is probably in on the Argentine lie):
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/22/books.france
“Britain's economy sinks into longest depression for 100 years”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/22/books.france
Even Alexander Haig and Ronald Reagan were worried what the old Iron stupid Bitch was up to and her use of nukes (Reagan and Haig were in on the lie as well), because of some political pressure on Downing street:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/22/books.france
Por que no te chingas malparido. That will be the day I take advice from some anonymous poster named Anbar al Arabe.
#77
Nov 27th, 2014 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have aptly named yourself...in the dark. That describes your knowledge of the out side world. You live in your own little bubble and are terrified of having to leave it and confronting the real world.
It is obvious from your postings that your comprehension is that of a 2 year old.
That's unkind ....raise it to 4.
@83 Sallus Air Farce
Nov 27th, 2014 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As we have seen many times in these anonymous fora, some Argentine posters tend to have difficulty with the concept of evidence.
Just to explain some of the basics, an allegation in itself does not constitute evidence. Hearsay does not even constitute a proper allegation. Thus, for example, the evidential value of the late President Mitterand's psychiatrist (of all things) claiming to have been told of a conversation which may or may not have been reported accurately, or may or may not have ever happened is NIL. The precise technical term for this is bollocks.
Your wnd.com is another kind of bollocks to which you seem especially prone. While it has no more evidential value than the Mitterand hearsay, it also states the opposite of what you claim it states. The technical terms for this is hilarious bollocks.
Do keep it up, it's even more fuck-witted than your initial US Air Force impersonation.
83 Sallus
Nov 27th, 2014 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good news - The Top Gear Argentina special will be broadscast over Christmas.
Why do you keep making a fool of yourself with your stupid posts.
Sallus is biggest idiot to ever appear on these comment boards.
Nov 27th, 2014 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a ridiculous person.
There have been several books, former officials, and sources stating unequivocally that Thatcher was all for nuclear striking Buenos Aires and Bahia Blanca.
Nov 28th, 2014 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0As such British reputation as a responsible member of the nuclear club was completely and forever shattered.
@88
Nov 28th, 2014 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Links or references, please.
I just gave you links and references: my word.
Nov 28th, 2014 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 090 - Troll : Give them links that say that the sky is black at night or that the sky is blue on a clear day with links and all you get in return is semi intelligible convoluted conspiracy theories and stroke induced profanity. Bottom line, don't bother. I really think that any opposition to the Falkland Island issue across the internet is met with this aggressive garbage caused by these two or three posters with probable links to the editor, to the Falkland council for sure. I mean Stevie and Hepatia thought so, not too sure about farce.
Nov 28th, 2014 - 02:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know. These people are ANTI-ARGENTINES. Period. These are their 10 commandments:
Nov 28th, 2014 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 01. Argentina is the root of all evil on Earth.
2. Nothing good ever existed in Argentina.
3. Argentina is the root of all evil in the Milky Way Galaxy.
4. Nothing good exists in Argentina today.
5. Argentina is the root of all evil in the entire Universe.
6. Nothing will ever exist in Argentina.
7. All argentines are evil.
8. All argentines are born evil.
9. Anything good about Argentina must be a lie.
10. A lie about Argentina must be good.
All that said, I won't ever jump into the Falklands sickness. Sorry, just like I don't have an iPhone, a facebook account, or Photoblog, or read vampire stories, I absolutely detest and abhor the “herd mentality”. Argentina has an unhealthy obsession with those islands. Its one thing to bring up an issue periodically, another to have a government that for the last two years done nothing but force down the throat this issue: in the Olympics, in Mercosur, in Alba, in G20, in the football team, in transportation, in bilateral meetings, in Unasur, in schools, in tv shows... its too much, it is not healthy to have such an obsession, and I refuse to take part in it.
@90
Nov 28th, 2014 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Toby, I know it came as a terrible shock to you not to be taken at your own estimation on these boards, but frankly I'm disappointed to see you sink to the level of L. Ron Sallus United States Air Farce.
@88 There are also several books , photographs , blogs and personal accounts of the Invincible being sunk and over 10,000 british troops being killed .
Nov 28th, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Funnily enough , all originate in Argentina and none are true , but hey , don't let the truth get in the way of a good fantasy .
#92
Nov 28th, 2014 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can't agree with your statements at 1 /10. I have only met a few Argentinians ...in the UK...and they were perfectly nice people.
The trouble with these forums is that it is a bear pit. Very few people would talk like this face-to face. It's easy to denigrate people when they are anonymous and you will never meet them.
If your government shut up and stopped lying about the Falklands then this site would die the death. We have posters here who have multiple personalities and who try to adopt nationalities not their own to give credence to their own/Argentinian opinions.
#88
Maybe she was all for nuking Argentina....that is conjecture, however it would never have been approved by the cabinet NOR the UK Parliament.
It could have been a bluff to get the Junta worried.
All the best fighter aircraft were kept to protect the mainland after the Vulcan attack on the runway at Stanley. It proved that Argentina WAS vulnerable and it was not the walkover they expected.
Clyde15@95
Nov 28th, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You make a good point, there are a lot of good Argentines....not all of them are like these Trolls, or better said, it's the 'minority' that have these ignorant, radical , brainwashed views, and it's obvious they've never been abroad.
As to your comment that “Very few people would talk like this face-to face”, is probably quite right, but, sometimes, even when face-to-face, it is very hard to keep quiet when some idiot starts spewing ridiculous lies about something....from that point on, the level of the conversation will depend on their intelligence and/or education....it is OK to agree to disagree on some matter which may have several (similar) interpretations, but when you you get a bunch of low-lives, spouting shit about stuff they are obviously not familiar with, I think it's ok to tell them to f*ck off.....you might make a few enemies, but what the hell, who needs friends like that ??
Clyde15@95
Nov 28th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course are some good, intelligent, productive, educated Argentines. And I have met both of them.
@ 97 Marti Llazo
Nov 29th, 2014 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't be so utterly ridiculous and patronising!
You are so rude!
I can't believe you can be so narrow-minded as to insult a whole nation in this manner.
I have travelled widely, in many continents and spent many, many years in Latin America.
Open your eyes!
There are at least five.
(ok, maybe six if you count Jorge Luis Borges, whose father was 1/2 English, 1/4 Portuguese, 1/4 Spanish, but I am struggling now...)
:-)
The real Argentine Commandments:
Nov 29th, 2014 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) there is nothing good about this Argentine government
2) this Argentine government lies and cheats
3) this Argentine government is corrupt
4) Argentina has no claim whatsoever to the Falklands
5) this Argentine government lies about Falklands history
6) this Argentine government promotes state sponsored thuggery and intimidation
7) this Argentine government is there by the will of the Argentine people
8) the Argentine people who voted for this government either support 1-6, or a too stupid to see it.
9) there are Argentines who do not support this government and see them for the corrupt scum that they are
10) this government are the latest of a Peronist 70 years which has taken one of the most progressive, wealthy and beautiful countries on the planet and turned it into a laughing stock.
Perhaps if you knew the following was true, but actually only of interest to 0.05% of the countries you despise, your understanding might be clearer.
1) there is nothing good about this Argentine government (actually yes, there is: it is so incompetent and damaging to its own self-interests that it has greatly diminished both its own economy and its military capability -- keeping it from meaningfully menacing anyone )
Nov 29th, 2014 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 02) this Argentine government lies and cheats (And everyone here knows it. Perhaps the most chronic example of such official fraud is the INDEC, the Argie national statistic agency. The very portrait of mendacity, it routinely reports inflation at about half the real rate, which is looking like about 41 percent for this year).
3) this Argentine government is corrupt (the word Argentina is not of a Latinate origin at all, but from an indigenous language, where it means “Land of corrupt bastards.” In public surveys, Argentines routinely rate their country as the most corrupt in their hemisphere)
4) Argentina has no claim whatsoever to the Falklands (No legitimate claim, that is. Likewise Argentina has “claimed” numerous other UK possessions, including the South Georgia Islands, and the parts of the Antarctic peninsula discovered and claimed by the UK long before Argentina could even construct a vessel capable of reaching those locations. Oh, and Argentina's infrastructure decay now includes the inability to operate and maintain so much as a single ship capable of supplying their little outpost in Antarctica).
5) this Argentine government lies about Falklands history (and about a great deal of its own history, which is of course distinct from Falklands history)
6) this Argentine government promotes state sponsored thuggery and intimidation (the concept of an “independent judiciary” for example, is repugnant to the Peronist mentality. Right now the Argie vice president is under indictment for - guess what ? -- corruption)
7) this Argentine government is there by the will of the Argentine people (and they get the government that they so richly deserve)
And so on.
Please continue.... :-)
Nov 29th, 2014 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@101
Nov 30th, 2014 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marti has barely scratched the surface, such a shame really that the true Argies have such a corrupt Government, but will it change under a new Government, don't think so, as the Argie mentality needs to change and that is extremely difficult.
@100
Nov 30th, 2014 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK never discovered Antarctica. You are truly an eminent moron. “They” discovered it, a very LONG time ago:
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm
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My wish to Santa
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm
@103
Nov 30th, 2014 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby, just put of interest, why have you got a Greek surname and an Italian first name this time?
You might like to to check out what actual scholars think of the Piri Reis map. From wiki:
”A more conventional analysis of these claims was published by Gregory McIntosh, a historian of cartography, who examined the map in depth in his book The Piri Reis Map of 1513 He was able to find sources for much of the map in Columbus's writings. Certain peculiarities ... he attributed to the use of multiple maps as sources; others ... he traced to the continued confusion of the area with East Asia. As far as the accuracy of depiction of the supposed Antarctic coast is concerned, there are two conspicuous errors. First, it is shown hundreds of miles north of its proper location; second, the Drake Passage is completely missing, with the Antarctic Peninsula presumably conflated with the Argentine coast. The identification of this area of the map with the frigid Antarctic coast is also difficult to reconcile with the notes on the map which describe the region as having a warm climate.[36]
It should be kept in mind that maps of the period generally depicted a large continent named Terra Australis Incognita of highly variable shape and extent. This land was posited by Ptolemy as a counterbalance to the extensive continental areas in the northern hemisphere; due to a lack of exploration and various misunderstandings its existence was not fully abandoned until circumnavigation of the area during the second voyage of James Cook in the 1770s showed that if it existed, it was much smaller than imagined previously. The first confirmed landing on Antarctica was not until 1820, and the coastline of Queen Maud Land did not see significant exploration before Norwegian expeditions began in 1891.[38][39] .... in any case conventional scholarship holds that there is no reason to believe that the map is the product of genuine knowledge of the Antarctic coast.
http://galleryoftheabsurd.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c301153ef01901e34b6c7970b-450wi
Nov 30th, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sir, who is Toby? You are just a mainstream denier, the same who said Troy didn't exist, Coelacanths and giant squid sightings were fabricated, and that the Great Flood was a fairy tale.
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My wish to Santa
http://galleryoftheabsurd.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c301153ef01901e34b6c7970b-450wi
@105
Nov 30th, 2014 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Greek born in Switzerland, that explains it. But I thought you hated all europeans?
An excellent choice of alias for you all the same :
Tsoukalos is a 1998 graduate of Ithaca College in Ithaca, New York, with a bachelor's degree in sports information and communication.[3] For several years in the early 2000s, before he made ancient astronaut research his primary career, he served as a bodybuilding promoter in IFBB sanctioned contests, including Mr. Olympia. He is fluent in English, Greek, German, French, and Italian.[2]
The Falklands Commandments
Dec 01st, 2014 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 01. The Falklands population Historically consisted and engaged in Drunking and Incest
http://books.google.com/books?id=9SFvBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=falkland+incest&source=bl&ots=8zel6LLoCk&sig=H48jh12joYAnCo6ePkGMYcJEUKo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fUB7VMixCcmpogS-koHgCQ&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=falkland%20incest&f=false
2. The Falklands population are in decline. Young people leave to find a life.
http://books.google.com/books?id=9SFvBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=falkland+incest&source=bl&ots=8zel6LLoCk&sig=H48jh12joYAnCo6ePkGMYcJEUKo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fUB7VMixCcmpogS-koHgCQ&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=falkland%20incest&f=false
3. 1/3 of the Falkland population are leeches to the overall population by sapping funds from government jobs.
http://books.google.com/books?id=9SFvBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=falkland+incest&source=bl&ots=8zel6LLoCk&sig=H48jh12joYAnCo6ePkGMYcJEUKo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fUB7VMixCcmpogS-koHgCQ&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=falkland%20incest&f=false
4. Falklanders are Second Class British citizens, earn 20% less than their UK counterparts
http://books.google.com/books?id=9SFvBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=falkland+incest&source=bl&ots=8zel6LLoCk&sig=H48jh12joYAnCo6ePkGMYcJEUKo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fUB7VMixCcmpogS-koHgCQ&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=falkland%20incest&f=false
5. A full 75% of the Falklands population still hit the bottle enmasse, time to hit Deanos Bar.
http://books.google.com/books?id=9SFvBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=falkland+incest&source=bl&ots=8zel6LLoCk&sig=H48jh12joYAnCo6ePkGMYcJEUKo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fUB7VMixCcmpogS-koHgCQ&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=falkland%20incest&f=false
6. The Falklands are completely dependent on the UK for defense and development
http://books.google.com/books?id=9SFvBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=falkland+incest&source=bl&ots=8zel6LLoCk&sig=H48jh12joYAnCo6ePkGMYcJEUKo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fUB7VMixCcmpogS-koHgCQ&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=falkland%20incest&f=false
7. The Falklands will be Argentine within 20 years or less.
http://books.google.com/books?id=9SFvBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=falkland+incest&source=bl&ots=8zel6LLoCk&sig=H48jh12joYAnCo6ePkGMYcJEUKo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fUB7VMixCcmpogS-koHgCQ&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=falkland%20incest&f=false
8. ”There is not one single country in the world which supports the right of the United Kingdom to govern over the Malvinas. Not one. “
9. Only 1/3 of the Falkland Population was actually born on the Island, the rest immigrated mostly from the UK: aka transplant
http://books.google.com/books?id=9SFvBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=falkland+incest&source=bl&ots=8zel6LLoCk&sig=H48jh12joYAnCo6ePkGMYcJEUKo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fUB7VMixCcmpogS-koHgCQ&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=falkland%20incest&f=false
10. If there is a shortage of women on the Island and there are 167 sheep for every person what happens on the off time???? (hahahahhaaa).
@107 L. Ron Sallus Air Farce
Dec 01st, 2014 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bile rises in direct proportion to impotence.
#107
Dec 01st, 2014 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 06) You quote a book written about the situation in the period 1974-1979, before your armed invasion. Look at the calendar, it is 2014!!!!
7) ”There is not one single country in the world which supports the right of the United Kingdom to govern over the Malvinas. Not one. “
The world according to Timerman. If lying was an Olympic sport, he would win gold for Argentina.!
Do you actually have a job or is trolling your main source of income.
I'm retired and I could not afford the time to drag out the stuff you do.
Well I suppose it gives you something to do outside your USAF duties.
You have to think what your next change of name will be when this one wears out.
@107
Dec 01st, 2014 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0I almost forgot. Did you ever try that Milk of Magnesia I recommended back when you were pretending to be in the United States Air Force? Seriously, I'm concerned you're going to be giving yourself an ulcer if you carry on like this. And chewing the carpet can't be doing your teeth any good either.
@107
Dec 01st, 2014 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sallus, henceforth you are going to be called “ PHALLUS” because you are a “ DICK ”
Sallus
Dec 01st, 2014 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your jealousy and inadequacies blind you.
Simply...there is only one Flakland Island Commandment
The islands ARE NOT, HAVE NEVER BEEN, AND NEVER WILL BE ARGENTINE.
And there is nothing an impotent, jealous, inadequate cretin like you can do about it....l.lheheheheheheheh
@111 golfcronie
Dec 01st, 2014 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good name for the dick head.
@107 PHALLUS
If, in your expert opinion, the Falkland Islands' inhabitants are in such a dire situation, what makes you think that 'transplants' - apparently all despicable beings, according to you - and from all places, Argentina, will improve it ??
All you do, every time you open your mouth, is put your foot in it.
“Not one country supports the UKs position on the Falklands”..I.e.the islanders have the right to self determination.
Dec 01st, 2014 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Desperation from “Phallus”. In 2008 when the question was put to the UNGA as to whether there were any “conditions” to self-determination on NSGTS....60 (sixty) countries voted with the UK.. Only 40 (forty) voted with Argentina (including 22 Latin countries).
So “Not one” equals 60 and a clear MAJORITY.
Most of “Phallus” other points are irrelevant. 75% of the country likes a drink.....crikey....LOL...same as most countries I'd imagine.
The islanders have a higher GDP per capita than the UK, so are far from 2nd class citizens.
The islands require the UK for defence...so what...Monaco relies on France...there are many examples ..Kuwait would be part of Iraq if they'd not had help, Poland part of Germany...it is not unusual to defend a small group from a fascist evil belligerent.
And exactly because the UK will defend them....the islands will NOT be Argentine within 20 years, probably not in 1000 years, unless Argentina learn respect and persuade the islanders to join them.
So sadly “Phallus” misses the point....abusing the ONLY people who have the right to chose Falkland sovereignty....a bit like beating your wife to encourage her not to leave you....seems Phallus is a bully and a coward.
sniff sniff, I smell much fear!! This profanity that emanates from this crowds reeks of it....thanks for the laugh. The Islands will be flying the Argentine flag soon enough !!!
Dec 02nd, 2014 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0All I hear is blah blah blah...sometime a good link would be nice.
@115 L Ron Sallus Air Farce
Dec 02nd, 2014 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0How about these?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2777787/Why-dead-goat-born-head-like-HUMAN-baby-s-Argentinian-farmer-forced-hiding-accusations-pesticides-bestiality.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2777787/Why-dead-goat-born-head-like-HUMAN-baby-s-Argentinian-farmer-forced-hiding-accusations-pesticides-bestiality.html
How is your Dad, anyway?
#115
Dec 02nd, 2014 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could you be a bit more specific such as when Hell freezes.
What have we to fear from Argentina. You are just a keyboard warrior of no consequence.
@115 PHALLUS
Dec 02nd, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey, pathetic dickhead, what you REALLY wanted to say was “sniff, sniff, I smell much crap....I think I just filled my diapers with some profanity”.
yawn.....pffffssstt....that was it?
Dec 03rd, 2014 - 04:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0@119 L Ron Sallus Air Farce
Dec 03rd, 2014 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0You really are a credit to the Malvinista cause, quite possibly the best yet. Do keep it up.
@119
Dec 03rd, 2014 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yawning and “pffffssstt” ...what's that ? farting as well ? just adds to your stink.
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