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Gibraltar to contract law of the sea expert to probe “innocent passage” concept

Tuesday, November 25th 2014 - 07:09 UTC
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A world legal expert on the law of the sea is to be engaged by the Gibraltar Government to probe the concept of ‘innocent passage’ as a concept of international law. The concept is regularly cited in relation to Spanish warships and Guardia Civil vessels when they pass through British Gibraltar Territorial Waters, usually when they do not engage in any other activity. Read full article

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  • Justthefacts

    Legal opinions? The're really getting tough on the Spanish now aren't they?

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    Given the choice between artillery shells and lawyers I'd go for lawyers every time - they're easier to transport and capable of inflicting just as much (if not more) damage to an unsuspecting country.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    Better to have all your facts right first before doing anything, then Spain cannot make political gain if they are proven by law to be in the wrong when they are challenged. Never a good idea to shoot first and ask questions after.

    'Give them enough rope and they will hang themselves', as the saying goes, the UK and Gib are playing the long game, getting all their pieces in place and patiently biding their time. Spain just doesn't understand that concept.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Just open fire. Ship in everything. Every gun. Every mobile gun. Every aircraft. Every submarine. Everything. And then open fire.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    The UK invited Spain to go to the ICJ with it over the question of Gibraltar's Status, the Isthmus, airspace and territorial waters in 1969. The Spanish government declined. This means that under international law they have acquiesced to the British position under the rules of 'extinctive prescription.' Even Margallo has stated, 'I don't think Spain can win a case concerning Gibraltar's waters...' And yet some fools still believe that Gibraltar has no territorial waters. Chuckle chuckle.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    A third recession is on its way for the eurozone in late 2015. Spain will be back on it's arse again before it ever got to its knees, Rajoy will be out on his ear and this will all disappear into obscurity. Oh, what's that coming, oh yes Catalonian independence. Spain has way way more important issue to deal with than Gibraltar.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    stop whining macacos.
    that joke of treaty of utrecht does not grant any kind of territorial waters.
    so the stinky macacos only have the right to occupy the stinky rock, temporarily.

    and what the fuck is BGTW?
    british gays, transexuals and wankers?
    you faggots.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    It seems highly likely to me that Spain are chancing their arm against the UK in the hope of getting an armed response.

    Short of the scum actually opening deadly fire on the people of Gibraltar such a thing will never happen.

    MUCH better to get the law on the side of the Gibraltarians AND then sink a Spanish military / Police ship or two, just to let them know what is at stake.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cognitio

    Paulie...bless you! No need to get upset and use bad language. BGTW is British Gibraltar Territorial Waters. B is for British which means we own it and the Spanish don't so they can push off back to the shit bits of the mediterranean that they do actually own.
    By the way do you have any more ill informed comments on Gibraltar airport I do so enjoy those. It's very brave of you to share your opinions without feeling the need to resort to any personal experience or a single substantiated fact. It was like listening to a blind man describe an elephant. Paulie If ignorance is bliss you must be the happiest man alive. Keep up the good work. I'm your number 1 fan!

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    7 paulcedron

    You are the big joke here om MercoPress

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @7
    It is well known in the English language that the excessive use of profanity is clearest indication that you have lost the argument. I on the other hand will my temper my usage to one word.

    Wanker!

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    The MOD have just announced that the Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier will be holding the sea trials in Spanish territorial waters, I wish.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    7 boludo boy paulie

    “and what the fuck is BGTW? british gays, transexuals and wankers?”

    I'm not laughing at you Paulie, I'm laughing somewhere near you..... Your ignorance is both hilarious and pitiful, all at the same time.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Gibraltar, British until they say otherwise.

    and of no interest to argies, unless you are going to claim Gibraltar as well..lol

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    mamarracho No.1 PaulitoCedron.

    Go wash your mouth out with soap. You are a dirty mouthed boludo de mierda - un nabo gigante¡

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

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    Nov 25th, 2014 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Yes yes Paul that is the definition of BGTW. I just love how you expose your limited intelligence for all to see.

    No wonder you are having a hard time with your job at the moment.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    5 Brit Bob

    I'm pretty sure that I have floated this idea before but here goes:- although I sort of agree with Conqueror at 4 ( tempting!!! Very tempting!! ) that would just make “Hero's” out of the crew and we know how much Spain likes a hero.

    BTW Conqueror me ol' pal, ever seen the movie “Reign of fire”? In it, Matthew McConaughey utters the line:-

    “Envy the country that has heroes. I say pity the country that needs them”

    How true of Spain huh? Spain and it's illegitimate offspring.

    What do the Spanish fear worse than death? Humiliation!!! So instead of opening fire on them, arrest them. Arrest the crew, impound the boat, then take Spain to the UN, the ICJ, the EU and lay on the victimhood with a butter knife!!

    After the Spanish have been humiliated in this way, they will never be back and the shame of such an episode would take decades to get over for them.

    The best part about this plan is that they get to do all the work themselves, because they are too proud, too set in their ways and too stupid to read the signs. All we have to do is just wait.........and then have the press conference ready!!

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 18 toooldtodieyoung

    Excellent post.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @18
    Do you think that may work as regards the Number plate debacle?

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    @ 18 Toooldodieyoung. 'Failure of a State to assert its right when that right is openly challenged by another State can only mean abandonment to that right.' And, 'the State concerned must be barred from claiming before the international tribunal the rights it failed to assert or to preserve when they were openly challenged by word or deed.' Judge Alfaro Temple of Vihear case.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 05:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Moderator

    @4
    Are you referring to the battle of Cartagena ?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cartagena_de_Indias

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Aaaaah no! G I B R A L T A R..... a neighbour of Spain.

    Not a city in Colombia. Not only are you so stupid that you got the country wrong but you got the entire continent wrong.

    Oh well Argentine education system. Hard to expect anything more.

    Anyway back to Spain. They really are doing a great job. It is almost like they are handing Gibraltar their eventual independence bit by bit.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Spanish Mole

    Sometimes when I am bored I go to the garden and I think about life being a carrot ....

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    The Spanish navy commanders are surely having fun!! pissing off Picardo and company!! LOL LOL. I would love to be a commander on one of those spanish ships!!!!and cruise every now and then through gibraltar and when the royal navy turns up..I would give them the middle finger salute!!! LOL LOL LOL

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Didn't do the Commander of the Belgrano much good being in the FALKLANDS territorial waters did it? The UK will I am sure get the nod from the Legal experts and then Spain will have to abide by that ruling. You obviously do not know the mantra of who waits gets the biggest bite of the cherry.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Moderator

    @23
    Obviously your sense of humor intellect can be written on the back of a postage stamp. Should I explain it further for you? Has nothing to do with geography ! Wash your mouth with soap and think before you write such horse hokey.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    @25 Spanish Sunshine

    'Failure of a State to assert its right when that right is openly challenged by another State can only mean abandonment of that right,' Judge Alfaro, Vice President of Temple of Vihear case, 15 June 1962.

    Pity Spain declined the UK's offer to go to the ICJ over the status of the Rock, the Isthmus, airspace and territorial waters in the 1960s. Now all the Spanish have is propaganda (and 25% unemployment). Chickle chuckle...

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 25 spanisharseholee

    I knew when I saw this video it reminded me of you: you must be related to the one sitting on his arse looking over the bay wishing he owned it!

    NFC!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbJ9GIdFEmc

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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