MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Argentine swimmer crosses the Falklands' sound in 2 hours and 7 minutes
Argentine amateur distance swimmer Agustin Barletti (53) swam across Falklands Sound on November 9 in 2 hours and 7 minutes. The Argentine, who has also swum the Strait of Gibraltar between Europe and Africa hit it lucky with calm weather and the swell only increasing as he finished. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWell done! A personal triumph!
Nov 29th, 2014 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Absoluetely jolly good show, that's if he actually did it. Can any FALKLANDER confirm that he did it? He must have permission to do it. I expect the FALKLANDERS cheered him rather than stoning him.
Nov 29th, 2014 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0#3
Nov 29th, 2014 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hats off to the man. Done without any political motive or tub thumping about “our Malvinas”
God didn't help him, his arms, legs, and weather conditions helped him, but congratulations anyway, quite a feat :)
Nov 29th, 2014 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good effort. He must be pleased that he was allowed to do this without any hindrances, or being stoned by 20 years old war veterans.
Nov 29th, 2014 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are there not any suitably spaced rocks off the coast of Argentina? Surely there are some islands in TDF he could swim between?
Perhaps he is just another Argentine Anglophile, desperate to touch anything British? No?
Has anyone checked his number plates for possible insults?
Should the UK ambassador to the UK demand an apology from the company that was filming this?
And then bang on about it for a few months until the world starts laughing with ridicule?
We should be told.
Kudos, well done.
Nov 29th, 2014 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands, Gibraltar.... maybe he should stay within the Queens realms and try the English channel next .
Nov 29th, 2014 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's always good to see international events taking place here. I wasn't aware of it taking place so he obviously kept it very low key.
Nov 29th, 2014 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0I would be more impressed if he swam between TDC and the Falklands.
Nov 29th, 2014 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Would you normally believe a lawyer who is also a journalist?
:o)
@7
Nov 29th, 2014 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Er no, there a few thousand people at Calais that we don't want him giving any ideas to.
Otherwise this seems on face value harmless enough, although I get a bit uneasy when the pope gets a mention, I don't think it will be long before a papal visit is on the cards.
What? No independent observers? Furthermore, I have been unable to obtain any confirmation from Gibraltar about his alleged crossing from Europe to Africa.
Nov 29th, 2014 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Finally a Sports section in MercoPress...
Nov 29th, 2014 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some small remarks to the article and comments though..:
1) Why does MercoPress, after having copied textually this TELAM story...,feel the need to cut short the following paragraph...:
“The team then sailed in the Mago del Sur to Puerto Estanley.......”
That continues...:
“.......................... where we visited the battle sites together with some Argie Veterans we had met earlier...
To be there... with the real protagonists... instead of a tourist guide is an unique experience”, he told Telam...
http://www.telam.com.ar/movil/notas/201411/86077-nadador-malvinas-mar-agustin-barletti.html
2) Lowlander at (3)
Wrong again..., matey...
3) (8) Joe Bloggs
National event, my dear Kelper.... N A T I O N A L.
4) Turnip at (11)
One could eventually try toconsult the Gibraltar Strait Swimming Association's page...:
Number 213...:
http://www.telam.com.ar/movil/notas/201411/86077-nadador-malvinas-mar-agustin-barletti.html
In the hope that MercoPress corrects their brainwashing methods and brings more stories about gentlemanly sports as Long Riding, Fly Fishing, Croquet and Chess...
A chuckle from Chubut...
El Think
Is that a picture of me swimming between the mainland UK and the Isle of Wight, nah couldn't be me I can't swim.
Nov 29th, 2014 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 013. Touchè
Nov 29th, 2014 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0on the note
I dont understand what these people are trying to do or what for..
Swiming in the islands, going to run in the islands, going to play rugby in the islands. Anything will make you famous over nothing at all.
Its all sensationalist crap that is somehow supposed to be ice breaking/peacefull or whatever.
Its pathetic to see #12 Stink wittering on in critical mode about the shortcomings of articles in Mercopress when he is always totally uncritical about the glaring shortcomings and criminality of his own government whose serial crass actions he often applauds.
Nov 29th, 2014 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It demonstrates without doubt that he is a supine paid stooge whose views leave nasty stains on the web pages that they occupy. Not worth a fig…
As for the swimming, so what, it achieves nothing except self congratulation.
Captainsilver
The Shire
England
Poor little Cabezadura....
Nov 29th, 2014 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So many things he doesn't understand....
Well........ That's his problem........ Not ours...
16. What dont I understand ?? Care to explain... It's just a rock in the middle of the South Atlantic with no value..
Nov 29th, 2014 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The war lasted less than two months and only 300 ppl died on the islands, that to be fair is just a skirmish and 32 years have gone by. I dont want to be disrespectful or anything n¡but the fact is, its not exactly WWII or the Vietnam war we are talking about... You need to get over it.
Its becoming an industry of sensationalism and feelings.
These idiots are off for a picture and an article. Do you think that going to run a marathon or playing rugby is going to make the islanders change their mind about sovereignty and all that stuff??
You need to get real old fart.
Congratulations Agustin Barletti !!!
Nov 29th, 2014 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An excellent accomplishment, with statements by a true sportsman.
Oye Cabeza: He is real, and it is much better than just sitting around online.
18.
Nov 29th, 2014 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its a load of crap. Non news. They want to prove something go and talk to Timerman. You want closer relations with the islands?? Just do trade and business with them..
Care less.
Considering that state of the Argentine navy, this just might be the Argentine silent service testing the perimeters of the Falklands defenses......kind of like Russia is doing against NATO countries.
Nov 29th, 2014 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just saying lol.
@ 12 Lunatic
Nov 29th, 2014 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I bet the “Veterans” were 20 years old!
Ha, ha, ha.
You must like being LAUGHED at: it happens so often.
Very good, next time we have a load of Argentine prisoners to deliver home no need to hire a big boat.
Nov 29th, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CD2
Nov 29th, 2014 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think-Turnip is as ever, irrelevant.
Impressive personal achievement for this swimming athlete, but irrelevant also.
#12
Nov 29th, 2014 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lowlander at (3)
Wrong again..., matey...
OK, if you say so. I thought it was a story about someone completing a personal challenge with no political motive.
So he was just another whinging Argie making a statement about “our precious Malvinas” by going for a swim.
I take it he will be given a State reception for the Malvinas cause.
Thank you for pointing out my error in believing that their must be one honest Argentinian, So they must all be chauvinistic liars. I will keep this in mind if I hear anything good about an Argentinian.
23.
Nov 29th, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He can certainly do any sport or activity like this one in Argentina.. Why would you do this in the islands, why not swim the Magallan sound ??
Hence it is political kind off but mostly self promotional...
I dont get what they are trying to prove with these silly “emotional crusades” Do US citizens go to Vietnam to do this stuff, do Russians go to say Afghanistan ??
If you want to change or make a difference in diplomatic terms the place to do it is in obsessed Argentina, not the islands themselves.
What are you going to do another marathon??
I have being reading post here for over a year...I think you should just leave the islanders alone and stop being a nuisance.
Oye, Cabeza -
Nov 29th, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You look at this as both political and irreverent, and that is of course your subjective and personal view.
The article states that this was a sport accomplishment, which the swimmer -athlete , which I assure you at age 53 Sr. Barletti certainly is, first trained for by swimming the Strait of Gibraltar.
The fact that it is a SPORT accomplishment first, and that the Sportsman is so gracious in his comments about his crew, equipment, and surroundings, does not diminish his accomplishment. In fact it qualifies it, as well as his secondary act of respect for those lost in the 1982 battle.
If you read the positive accolades stated by those members here, which method would you say is the more successful one in the islands ? That of direct, hostile confrontation, or that event so well received by both sides as illustrated by Sr. Barletti ?
This blog was great until number 12 pops up,
Nov 29th, 2014 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then after then it goes down hill and gets tacky,
having said that this could be two interesting notes of interest,
1, what a great feat well done,
on the down side,
2, CFK will be fuming and this man could well disappear ???????
remember her orders, all the Malvinas logo must be shown,
and this poor guy gets out of the water on to British soil,
and the Malvinas logo was nowhere to be seen,
CFK will be pulling her hair out,lolol
Lowlander at (24)
Nov 29th, 2014 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice piece of Sassenach brainwashing you show here...
According to it, any Argentinean taking any kind of personal action to correct the historic wrong of some Argentinean Islands, just some 190 miles off the rest of our territory, stolen by some Engrish Pirates in 1833 MUST be a dishonest, chauvinistic lying whiner...
I have news for you, matey....
It ain't so...
28 Turnip
Nov 29th, 2014 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“... MUST be a dishonest, chauvinistic lying whiner... ”
nope, that would be YOU, El Turnip”
26. Its just swimming, like one guy said here. I can swim do you know. Do you take seriously everything they tell you in the media??
Nov 29th, 2014 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My opinion and that of any pick up artist is that all these actions i.e emotional crusades come down to obsessive, desperate and needy actions from the Argentine side. From assaulting tourist on cruisers to this, it comes across as obsessive, desperate and needy, that is what you ultimately transmit.
Now that he could swim across the Uruguay River, the Parana River, the straight of Magellan that is a fact, not my opinion. Why Gibraltar and Falklands?? It is political.
Just read “Think” between lines. Its not about the islands, its seems to be about the people that live there.
The problem is not what they do in their own personal lives, the problem is that THEY DO THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF US ALL.
Then no suprise you I have come across islanders who ware unforgivebly rude and self centered to me. No I dont care about you nor I think about you from I get up till I go to bed... Who teh hell do you thik you are?? Well they think I'm like “Think”. And from where they get the idea??? From idiots like Barletti.
Agustin , felicitaciones, que sigan los existos. Sos un ejemplo para para nosotros, seguro no extrañaste tu hogar y tu patria .... estabas ahi....y nosotros , los mas de 40 millones de argentinos estabamos a tu lado, apoyando en cada brazada que diste
Nov 29th, 2014 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#28 I'm confused? Is this fella trying to recreate the feats of those others that you lot dumped in the River Plate, or what?
Nov 29th, 2014 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems to me your views are limited to those of one person, yourself, and are not supported by your countryman here, as is usual. You can snipe at the Falkland Islanders until the cows come home it doesn't make a blind bit of difference, they are in their home, they are rich and successful and they are well protected. Whine on…
#28
Nov 29th, 2014 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I have a brain which I use to form my own opinions. You just regurgitate rubbish pumped into you by your successive lying governments.
I take it you mean lowlander and sassenach as snide pejorative terms, which fits your personality to a “T”. You seem to live in a twilight world.
As to “According to it, any Argentinean taking any kind of personal action to correct the historic wrong of some Argentinean Islands, just some 190 miles off the rest of our territory, stolen by some Engrish Pirates in 1833 MUST be a dishonest, chauvinistic lying whiner...”
The answer is in the affirmative.
Where in your imagination do you get the idea that the islands belong to Argentina. The usual claptrap about 1833 which has been debunked time and time again. It's like a child sticking his hands over his ears and shouting I don't want to hear. I want it, I want it ad nauseam
I was prepared to believe that this swim was a personal challenge , unrelated to politics . If not, then he should have swum all the way back over the poisoned sea,to the poisoned land in the west to a heroes welcome, having contributed nothing to your forlorn cause.
(33) Clyde15
Nov 29th, 2014 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“The usual claptrap about 1833 which has been debunked time and time again. ”
I say...:
Debunked by whom...?
By the same Pirates that did the deed...?
That, my dear laddie, is not “Debunking”...
That's plain and simply brainwashed haughtiness...
31 Hernan
Nov 29th, 2014 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have put your post through Google Translate.
I don't know why you couldn't have written this in English - it's an English only website.
Perhaps you wanted to express a patriotic, Malvinista brotherly bond and you didn't want us to know what you said?
Hernan,
“Agustin, congratulations, you follow the existos. Sos an example for us, sure you did not miss your home and homeland .... you were there .... and we, more than 40 million Argentines we were at your side, supporting each stroke you gave”
No, he was NOT IN ARGENTINA.
Hopefully, his swim was a personal achievement, not a politically motivated stunt, as you state it is.
What a cheap stunt. CD2 is right - I have no respect for Mr. Barley, now.
Just when it looked like there was some honour in an Argentine athlete visiting the Falklands.
Too bad his feat is tainted with Malvinista politics.
Fer fecks sake......what a bunch of dimwits....
Nov 30th, 2014 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0How many clues do you want...?
Probably struggle with dot to dots....
Gibraltar....Falklands.....Argie Veteran.....Pope rosary beads.....Darwin Cemetery Visit...all in the same article.....and you all cheer WEll DONE...what a sporting fellow....:-)))))))
....and
PMSL........
Gee and I thought Yanks were gullible.....
(36) Voice
Nov 30th, 2014 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
36 Voicey
Nov 30th, 2014 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0I suppose we're just not the knee-jerk cynics that you are.
Give a person the benefit of doubt at first, and then revise it as more becomes apparent.
How long did it take you to comment? And you berate us instead of the Malvinistas- that's you alright!!
38
Nov 30th, 2014 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0I've been busy... just read it....
Never mind that...where's Skip...did you meet....
...does he mince....;-)))))))
“...busy... ” ?? You mean you just got released,,, ?
Nov 30th, 2014 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0What did the Judge say this time?
How's your ex-wife? Is she satisfied with the sentence this time, or will you have to go up about it again??
36. Pretty much limited to the first 10 comments or so.... I wonder who was the cowboy entered the Saloon and said the macho stuff when all of them suddenly shut up about it...
Nov 30th, 2014 - 01:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0(41)
Nov 30th, 2014 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The Man without Name”, I Think ;-)
25 CabezaDura2
Nov 30th, 2014 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0“He can certainly do any sport or activity like this one in Argentina.. Why would you do this in the islands, why not swim the Magallan sound ??”
Because no part of Estrecho de Magellanes is Argentian... zero, zilch,FA, nada, etc.
Nor for that matter is the Beagle RG... despite the RG attempts to steal it....all they have is that sliver along the northern shore east of Ushuaia
It must stick in the RG craw to have to go through Chile to get to 'occupied TdF'
@36
Nov 30th, 2014 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Swimming does not confer sovereignity. Argentines can swim in the Falklands on the same terms as everybody else.
Good boy..., Frank the Yank...
Nov 30th, 2014 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0You got things almost right this time about the “Estrecho”...
But, if you want to brag using its Spanish name, use it right, matey...
It's spelled “Estrecho de Magallanes”, lad... As in “Nubes de Magallanes”, that in a clear night can be seen even in NZ...;-)
Spare me the technicalities and explain me what is wrong with swimming from Dungeness point to TdF and what is Chilean of it ??
Nov 30th, 2014 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0#34
Nov 30th, 2014 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes you exhibit that in every post.
Getting excited about a stunt performed by some Argie in a wetsuit is rather pathetic alongside the heroic exploits remembered in the excellent Chilean museum on the Straights of Magellan at Punta Arenas.
Nov 30th, 2014 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On my recent visit I explored Magellans tiny ship and marvelled at it, what a feat he performed. Alongside a replica of The Beagle is being constructed. The ship that carried a man who changed scientific thinking and put religion in its rightful place as a load of useless mumbo jumbo. Alongside,Alongside there is a replica of Shackletons James Caird the converted lifeboat in which he made the 800 mile epic lifesaving journey from Elephant Island to South Georgia. Again this was a massive real achievement, not a political stunt by a nation drowning in its own pathetic nationalism.
They even had a replica of El Think preserved in Aspic :-)))))
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museo_Nao_Victoria#/image/File:Museo_Nao_Victoria_Visitante_vestido_de_soldado_espa%C3%B1ol.JPG
Its all very well trying to appear magnanimous about some pathetic Argie stunt, but its nothing compared to the epic feat of the 75 mile Royal Marine Commandos' yomp from San Carlos towards Port Stanley carrying 70lbs of kit recreated recently. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museo_Nao_Victoria#/image/File:Museo_Nao_Victoria_Visitante_vestido_de_soldado_espa%C3%B1ol.JPG
In it original form it resulted in a resounding defeat of the fascist Argie invaders from which they have never recovered, and thats something to really celebrate!
(46) CaraDura2
Nov 30th, 2014 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Spare me the technicalities and explain me what is wrong with swimming from Dungeness point to TdF and what is Chilean of it ??”
I say...:
Everything is wrong with that “swim” from Punta Dungeness
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/24573513?source=wapi&referrer=kh.google.com
To
Cabo Espiritu Santo
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/24573513?source=wapi&referrer=kh.google.com
laddie...
32 km of of frigid open sea waters with the worst immaginable current and wind conditions...
Not even your favourite Yankee heroes..., Chuck, Bruce or Clint would be able to pull such one... Maybe Sylvester, though ;-)))
Nonsense give me a couple of months of training and some sponsors like this guy had and I will swim it myself.
Nov 30th, 2014 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I also said
“Now that he could swim across the Uruguay River, the Parana River...”
Caradura...... hasta la sepultura.
Nov 30th, 2014 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“We didn't have a support vessel, but then along comes captain Da Milano one of the best yachtsman in Argentina with his Antigua and Bermuda flagged Mago del Sur” revealed Barletti.”
Nov 30th, 2014 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Makes sense to have your vessel registered with a BOT-though when he docks in Argentina he can breathe in all that lovely tyre smoke.
So he went to the FALKLANDS and along came a support vessel; How convenient was that, and Argentinian to boot, WHAT LUCK, it's a pity that the Argentinians are not so lucky with their Government, Oh and the POPE heard about it, rather convenient I would say.
Nov 30th, 2014 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hernán - ¡NABO!
Nov 30th, 2014 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares. He clearly swam in British waters and that's that.
Nov 30th, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinistas can try and twist it all they want but Argentina does NOT exercise sovereignty over any part of the Falkland Islands and their waters. Snide remarks about how the swimmer was home etc etc are nothing but that... snide.
Speaking of snide. Yes Voice I am here. And I'll freely admit that I had no idea what the Grey Cup was before arriving. Also weird to see white eggs. Haven't seen those since I was a kid. Supermarkets can be an adventure in their own right.
Anyway I can't prove to you that I am here. Which is really unimportant when you think about it. I travel and you don't.
Btw Troy. Sorry but my hostel wifi is crap. I'll reply to your email now.
Never heard of the Grey Cup...never heard that Canadians could actually play football....wait a minute...they can't....
Nov 30th, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go to a Starbucks.....they have Wi-Fi.....my cell automatically connects when I'm near one.....
Then take some pics on your phone and upload using the Wi-Fi....
It's easy..... unless ....Nah...you must be there.....probably...
....surely
....maybe
....bloody hell you are not, are you...I've been had....
Yeahhhhh...
Nov 30th, 2014 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Send us a picture of you mincing in Mississauga, Skip...
Chuckle chuckle.
The Lunatic and Voice thinking and saying almost the same things, how strange is that?
Nov 30th, 2014 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not half as strange as Lunatic WALKING on the water across The Falkland Sound?
Come on Lunatic, you ‘THINK’ you can do it, don’t you.
One step at a time, glug, glug.
Do us ALL a favour and drown yourself.
Argentina's Jet Fighter Replacement Options Narrow
Nov 30th, 2014 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.defensenews.com/article/20141130/DEFREG05/311300010/Argentina-s-Jet-Fighter-Replacement-Options-Narrow
interesting article..
.
Oh I feel so popular. Jealous much?
Nov 30th, 2014 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok so the Grey Cup. Nope never heard of it. I freely admit what I don't know. Unlike others that pretend to know it all! What is the Aussie Rules version? Bet no one knows.
As for Starbucks. Bahahahaha makes sense that Voice drinks that crap. A total business failure in Oz. But I'm at the Museum of Vancouver now. With wifi obviously. Tell me what you want a pic of Voice. What's that? I have a receipt for here? Ooh how ever will Voice make that appear fake? I mean it has a date, a time only 10 mins ago and.... ooh what's this? Student admission.
Voice and Think. Both 5 letters. Same as LOSER. Try again folks.
Www.instagram.com/anglotino
30 CabezaDura2
Nov 30th, 2014 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Normally I am rubbish at this sort of thing but ( deep breath ) here goes:-
You are right, it is just swimming but he did it without the fanfare, without the blessing from TMBOA or Gollum. He just did it. No political motivation, no “our malvinas” speech afterwards.
You see ( and maybe I am getting muddled here ) maybe he was also demonstrating that Argentinians can do “normal” things in the Falklands without a political agenda.
Maybe he was also demonstrating that not all Argentines have been brain washed by TMBOA and her cronies.
Maybe, in his way, he was saying that relations could be “normal” between the peoples ( not politicians ) of the Falklands and Argentina.
Does that constitute a political agenda? I don't know. But maybe, just maybe this was the first small step?
60 Skip
Nov 30th, 2014 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yep, looks like the Museum to me.
Be down there in a bit...
Well at least you know where I am Troy. Where the hell is “Mississauga” that Think is talking about?
Nov 30th, 2014 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does he think I'm in Toronto? Perhaps he meant Shaugnessey.
“”“”You say...:
Nov 30th, 2014 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The usual claptrap about 1833 which has been debunked time and time again. ”
I say...:
Debunked by whom...?“”“”“”
..by everyone with access to the internet and the wit to use it.
Argentina seems to debunk most of the myths itself.
Nov 30th, 2014 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When they stop harping on about something and are unable to actually show historical proof of their claim...... well they do all the work.
58
Dec 01st, 2014 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are also some folk that are so comfortable with the name I call them, that they adopt it.....how strange is that...?
60
Nothing wrong with Starbucks Skip......don't pretend you know a decent coffee from a crap one....if you drink espresso or lattes...which I do and the grind is right not too fine or coarse and you are happy with the house blend.....the espresso machine is automatic...it can't get it wrong....
Australia...leading the world in the coffee industry......PMSL...;-)))
66 Voice
Dec 01st, 2014 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have to laugh - you were MIA for a 2 week sentence or so, and when we do see you, the only thing you want to know is, did Skip and I meet.
Not really your business.
I'll say one thing, “Skip” has another nickname he really loves up to, and he's not the sort of person you would ask to his face, “do you mince?”
LOL !!
Not a murmur until I broached the subject...then Voilà .....
Dec 01st, 2014 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Save it....puppet..there was never going to be a meet.....
Unless of course you meant meeting yourself.....
Yep. Thanks for the idea for my name on here Voice. It works a treat. Skip is the shortest name so shouldn't create the confusion that my precious portmanteau created. Seems merging two distinct words into one proved beyond the ability for nearly every Argentine on here.
Dec 01st, 2014 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0So yes. Skip came from you Voice. No weakness in admitting that. I have tried to tell you that it is a term of endearment. I'll happily own it. Conveys much more than the name Voice. But I can't help you on a new name.
As for coffee. Haha. Obviously never been to Melbourne. I don't feel any need to defend or validate my claim. The fact that Starbucks failed so abysmally is fact enough.
Anyway as usual you have moved the goalposts. I see you can't deny I'm in Vancouver.
61.
Dec 01st, 2014 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0I rest my case @30.
It's better just to leave them alone. Its not his job to do any “first step” the obessesion must be solved in Argentina. Not in the islands.
I think Argentines by good or bad intentions by default end up giving the islanders far too much attention to there otherwise isolated boring lives. Its about what you ultimately transmit. And that is obsessive, desperate and needy on Argentina's side.
Its the psychology, stupid!
54 gordo1 (#)
Dec 01st, 2014 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say: “ Hernán - ¡NABO!”
Hernán is right, after reading Mr. Think comment @12 is clear to me that you are talking about yourself.
57 Think
It's not easy..but congratuleiyon gayina :-)
71
Dec 01st, 2014 - 03:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really Marcos??
Alwsys late - never an original thought!
Does your Mum know you're Think's cheerleader?
As usual when it comes to Voice's acrobatics? Did we meet up Troy? Or was Bean Around the World just in our imagination?
Dec 01st, 2014 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Honestly I don't understand Voice's bitterness to me (unless it is because I make him look lik an idiot so frequently).
First he questioned my nationality.
My location.
My studies.
My job.
My income.
My travel.
And not once has he ever tripped me up. Never.
Shine a light on me all you want Voice. I don't lie so you'll never catch me out. Perhaps you are jealous that no one cares about the stories you concoct about yourself.
So either am who I say I am or I arent. But Voice you always attempt to create doubt and when that fails (time after time) you just move on.
PS: Found the name of our Aussie Rules cup yet?
72 Troy. No but yours knows all about it jealous marionette UVic “boy”
Dec 01st, 2014 - 05:12 am - Link - Report abuse 073 Skip
Dec 01st, 2014 - 05:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bloody Hell !! Shouldn't you be cowering from Voicey's barbs ???
Didn't you adopt “Skip” as an Aussie moniker???
How on Earth is he going to sound condescending towards you now... ??
You've gone and buggered the whole thing up!!
First he insists I'm a “Canadian” - OMG - Saints Preserve us!!
Then I'm “Monkey Magic” from Essex, and my spelling is “deceitful” - for want of a better word.
For awhile, I was YOU!
NOW, we've never met... I can't keep up!!
Really, these Trolls! Think-Turnip says I'm from Mississaugua - that's 3,000 miles away from Vancouver!
I'm actually only 25 -35 min away from downtown Vancouver - oops, said too much.
The truth is - they haven't a bloody clue.
Sorry, ain't gonna indulge Voicey too much, here.
Nice coffee we had - nope, Voicey, NOT Starbucks, there are other great places nearby to have a hot coffee on a cold Grey Cup Day.
Nope, Voicey - NO talk of you, sorry.
That's it Voicey - we met, you didn't. Will send pics to ilsen.
A pleasure meeting you, “Skip”.
:)
Dec 01st, 2014 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor old thicko... reduced to correcting peoples spelling...sad old git...
Dec 01st, 2014 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0CD2....draw a line from Punta Dungeness to Cabo Espiritu Santo, west of that line is Chilean, to the right its the Atlantic Ocean...good luck to anyone who could swim that.
74 MA
Dec 01st, 2014 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, dear, Marcos ...!
“Jealous”?
Jealous of what, Marcos??
Please tell me!
WHAT exactly do I have to be “jealous” of ?
YOU???
- a half-witted nincompoop who traipses around after ThinkTurnip or Stevie, because you can string more than 3 words together, yourself??
Don't make me laff !!
Remind me again, What is this thread all about?
Dec 01st, 2014 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0An Argentine swimmer or just slagging each other off
Why did he get the POPE involved if he was just doing it for himself?
@59 Briton
Dec 01st, 2014 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting indeed-but as most defence analysts do, they assume that if Argentina get a good jet fighter in numbers , that means game over with the Falklands as Britain is so far away.
This assumes no T45s or no Astute subs are sent anywhere near the Falklands. Also this assumes an invasion before the RAF gets V/STOL F35s.
To stop the UK reinforcing by air -the Argentines have to destroy MPA and Stanley runways plus any grass strips that a C17 and A400 can land on.
Which means they themselves can't base aircraft on the Islands.
They are going to have a hard job if their mainland airfields are attacked by Tomahawks (assuming Tornado GR4s cannot land at MPA and launch skyshadow strikes) and they will then need ships to supply the Falklands. If they can get past an Astute sub, goodluck, they are going to need it, and will have to chose landing beaches extremely carefully.
The MPA garrison is not going to be idle after being attacked, as there will be ground troops armed with ground to air missiles amongst other weapons who will disperse in the event of MPA being overwhelmed by Argentina and Argentine ground troops have got to be transported to the islands in the absence of star trek transporter beams. The Argentines will also have to eliminate Rapier batteries unless they use the 'pot luck' factor.
I do not rate highly the chances of advanced Argentine jet aircraft being able to eliminate all air defences in the Falklands and taking all the runways to use as a base, 'just like that.'
I wonder if these defence analysts actually take everything into account?
#80
Dec 01st, 2014 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought of replying to the latest “probable fighter acquisition ” but couldn't be bothered with more hypothetical conjecture. I'm sure our armed forces have plans in store to counter any proposed threat.
@ 59 Briton
Dec 01st, 2014 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0“It is little wonder the British are worried, because, given the savage defense (SIC) cuts of all governments that have reduced the armed forces to near impotence, the Argentineans could probably take over the Falklands if they had some more modern equipment,” he said. “In practical terms, the numbers of Argentinean aircraft would not matter a great deal, because the British couldn’t get there to defend the islands, anyway.”
“analyst Haris Khan of the Pakistan Military Consortium” No conflict of interest there then.
So the Pakis want to be involved then? Good.
We can shoot Paki pilots out of the skies over Falklands just as easily as the argie pilots, T45’s anybody?
I just love how cretins like the Pakis think they have an edge over the Brits, as if.
They are all forgetting a number of important FACTS;
1) the argies have NO battle hardened pilots at all;
2) the Pakis don’t make the planes, the Chin do: OH, THEY DON’T EITHER, DO THEY?
The Russians have to provide the Chin with engines and they can squash the deal in favour of original Russian equipment, but would they allow TMBOA access to their planes knowing that another embargo of Russian would result if an attack on the Falklands were made? Little Putin has already rowed back from the “we can ride out any embargo” to pleading to have the restrictions lifted.
This Paki “analyst” (ought to be analist) has never been involved in a fighting war against Britain involving combat aircraft, he is likely to have his arse handed to him on a plate just like the argies did.
If the argies are stupid enough to attack the islands again I really hope and expect that the mainland would be attacked by submarine based missiles. Complete destruction of the power generation, railways and major road intersections would soon bring the “pot bangers” out and the cravenly cowards of BsAs to their knees.
@28:
Dec 01st, 2014 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0“...the historic wrong of some Argentinean Islands, just some 190 miles off the rest of our territory, stolen by some Engrish Pirates in 1833...”
But that's *not* what happened. What really happened in 1833 was the recovery of British territory from Argentinian Pirates who were attempting to steal it. It's this act of theft that leads less scrupulous people of Argentina to push a fake claim of sovereignty over the Falklands, and slander the legitimate inhabitants of the Islands as “squatters” and “pirates”.
It's Argentina who committed the “historic wrong” by attempting to usurp British territory. That wrong was compounded by a second attempt involving the illegal invasion of the Falklands and the subjugation of the legitimate inhabitants. These facts are not disputable.
You really need to stop lying.
@83
Dec 01st, 2014 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even if it was a historic wrong (which it wasn't), on the scale of historic wrongs it's small potatoes indeed. It takes a peculiarly narcissistic culture to be still obsessing about it two centuries after it didn't happen.
@ 83
Dec 01st, 2014 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You really need to stop lying.”
I would much prefer he stopped breathing.
@85
Dec 01st, 2014 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A little harsh - I still believe that if the Malvinist groups within Argentina acknowledged the truth and stopped pushing their fake claim and its lies, it would be possible for Argentina and the UK to start a productive relationship.
I for one don't have anything against the Argentine people - just the poltical element that keeps greedily grabbing for the Falklands.
Without Argentina's antagonistic attitude towards the Falklands and the legitimate inhabitants, I'd say we could at least pursue friendly relations.
@ 86
Dec 01st, 2014 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice thoughts but they rely on people who want to make things work.
El Think (or Lunatic as I have tagged him) will NEVER give up his bitter and twisted, lying character and he is NOT even an argie.
You will find out for yourself soon enough.
It's alright. Think and his generation are on their way out.
Dec 01st, 2014 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I believe the younger generation will be severely scarred by the coming economic collapse so soon after the last.
I rate Argentina's chance at 0% for the forseeable future. It will just depend on the level of rhetoric they can live with.
53 years old - impressive! A lot of guys have trouble climbing the stairs at that age.
Dec 02nd, 2014 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0And if God helped him that's great. No atheist smallthinker is in a position to say otherwise, no matter how much it hurts them!
@ 89 Bongo!
Dec 02nd, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can see that you weren’t born this stupid, you MUST have worked hard to get to the place where you are now.
Or believe every word that the Popsicle says is true.
“53 years old - impressive! A lot of guys have trouble climbing the stairs at that age.”
Dec 02nd, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WTF? Really?
Must have a really short life span in your country Bongo.
Thanks guys,
Dec 02nd, 2014 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one tends to think, that some would like nothing better to give the impression we are weak, for the sole purpose of a reaction from the argies,
anything is poss. nowadays,
and yes I do believe we cant defend it..
92?
Dec 02nd, 2014 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“can't ” or “can” defend it?
Sorry,
Dec 03rd, 2014 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0we Can defend it lol
#86 We can have a good relationship now, based on 2 prerequisites.
Dec 03rd, 2014 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) Argentina pay for anything they want up front in hard currency.
2) UK keeps things discreet and don't rub things in the brainwashed masses noses.
UK is willing to do 2 but Argentina is unwilling to do 1. As a result only aid flows from UK to Argentina and it looks like that aid is drying up.
I think the usual £20 million annually is going to dry up very soon. The UK public have only recently learned that this was hidden in the EU Aid budget and are damned upset about it.
Dec 04th, 2014 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Easy win for 'Dave' Cameron. He wants to make Cuts. This one will be welcome by all except a few truculent Lefties who only seek to go 'against the grain' on anything.
Its over Argentina, no more free money from the UK.
Less money for your goverment-sponsered 'malvinazi-protests' I think.
We should not give these scroungers a single penny.
Dec 04th, 2014 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Impressive accomplishment !!!
Dec 04th, 2014 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well done !
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