The BBC Top Gear team which last October toured Argentina with three vehicles and which triggered a strong controversy apparently had three different plates in just one car and tried to torch the vehicles to cause further 'scandal', according to reports from the Patagonian police which were attached to a second letter sent by Argentine ambassador Alicia Castro to the BBC Executive Board. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhat about the stunt they pulled with the, so called athlete, in the Falklands just prior to the London Olympics? To compete on UK soil, we train on Argentine soil but lose on everyone's soil.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0At worst this is just tit for tat, but they sure don't like it when it's reciprocated.
This from the woman who claims the Falklands War (technically an armed conflict), STARTED with the sinking of the Belgrano.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0All seems a bit contrived so as to deliberately take offence.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Growing awareness in UK that the Argentinian people and police behaved like animals and only the intervention of a few Chilian Border Guards prevented a serious crime taking place.
Ms Castro insists that the head of Top Gear team Jeremy Clarkson is not saying the truth...
Dec 08th, 2014 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ms Castro is incapable of truth.
Just when we thought that Argentina has reached the bottom, we find they have even further to fall.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0The more that the ninnies squeal about this self created piffle. The more that they bring their country into realm of global 'OMG & lol' territory.
Alicia sends this letter, signed the Ambassador of Argentina, without blushing.
The Top Gear team are doing the chat show rounds promoting the Christmas special. I think the Argentines will have a lot more to whine about after it is shown.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Be11 end its a joke on who ever is driving the car.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Top gears whole thing is the presenters are ambitious but crap chasing them out with an organised mob and then claiming it was some conspriacy to make argentina look bad.
next the mob were actually britsh special forces inflitrated by nuclear submarine.
Argentina you let your nationlist feelings run away with themselves organised a mob to attack an entertainment programme and are now going to be mocked world wide for it.
This will be the most watched Top Gear Special ever.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0The stupid, stupid argies STILL don't get it, do they?
Dec 08th, 2014 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0This fiasco will run and run to the continued damage for the people of Argentina: GOOD!
Christ the Argies are thick, they should have taken a photo of the H982 FKL number plate and then if they felt that strongly then written to the BBC.This has really stirred up hornets nest they ( Jeremy Clarkson et al ) will be really milking this. He was on the Jonathan Ross show the other night saying the Argies were throwing rocks like girlies I pissed myself laughing but he did say he was scared at the time. I was once faced with an angery mob once very frightening but I had an SLR rifle for protection but nevertheless it was frightening
Dec 08th, 2014 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh this is just getting funnier by the day. No class, no sense of humour, no honour. Argentina your politicians and your diplomats suck. You know that don't you?
Dec 08th, 2014 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0When you are at the bottom of the hole stop digging.
You would 'Think' a football obsessed nation like Argentina would have a clue about the embarrassment of own goals! But, this woman is really thick, devoid of any diplomatic skills and simply a puppet of a crooked group of failed polictricians. The British thing to do in this situation would have been to make it into a big joke to share with the Top Gear team and then make sure that they were resoundingly beaten in the car football match. Instead they send a group of thugs in to intimidate them and turn the whole thing into an international incident?
Dec 08th, 2014 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a bunch of serial idiots and loosers? But, I guess we already knew that!
When are we going to hear about the numerous prosecutions for rioting and criminal damage?
Dec 08th, 2014 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://tinyurl.com/q2bb6qk
Dec 08th, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tells you there were 76 Porsche 928 GT available in the UK in 2014.
http://tinyurl.com/q2bb6qk
Gives you vehicle details. Vehicle was originally registered with that plate in 1991. It also shows Tax and MOT data. Cars are usually taxed at sale, a check of the classified ads in Classic Car magazine shows this was the only manual 928 available for sale.
http://tinyurl.com/q2bb6qk
Allows you to check vehicle history. Between 1998 and 2001 a previous owner had the personal plate H 1 VAE on the car, it was transferred to another Porsche. The care then reverted to the original plate, which was simply stuck over the personal plate.
http://tinyurl.com/q2bb6qk
Takes you to another story regarding the team, where May described Clarkson as a monstrous bellend. The team have already stated the plate was made up as a joke and intended to be used off road in a game of car football.
The team has also revealed that when the controversy over the number plate became apparent, they reverted to H1VAE with the knowledge and consent of the Argentine officials present.
The team made no attempt to burn the cars, the only burn damage there was occurred when a battery for a camera was removed in a hurry. I know one thing, the Top Gear team would have done a proper job if that was their aim.
In fact, there are explanations for every point raised in the letter already in the public domain. So it makes the Argentine ambassador look decidedly thick to continually raise the same point.
I think someone should explain the significance of BE11 END to the argentines before they embarrass themselves any further .
Dec 08th, 2014 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love Castros wording spontaneous gathering ... yeah right a 1000 strong angry mob with pick axe handles .
They seem to forget that is was Argentina that started a nd then lost a war o In their own doorstep . Bell ends
Who cares? Why do stupid people take such offence over perceived small slights?
Dec 08th, 2014 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's really something wrong with Rgs.
“Above all, don't lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to such a pass that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others....... The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than any one. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it, and so pass to genuine vindictiveness.”
Dec 08th, 2014 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov
The other plates were clearly for Alicia herself.. she really is total bell end.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The stupid woman clearly realises the veiled threats to stop David Attenborough from filming have backfired , so she is basically begging the BBC not to air the programme and to fire Clarkson .
Dec 08th, 2014 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps the Executive might wish to share our thought that there are still some values more important than money and revenues: one of them being the international prestige of the BBC ( Quote ).
Sorry Alice , this is the real world , not Aerolineas Argentinas .
As a member of an administration that has spent 10 years trying and failing to muzzle free press in your own country , do not try to lecture the BBC .
I promise you , it won't work .
Ah, the smell of fear. If there was nothing to be ashamed of in the behaviour of the K's paid mob they would be happy for this programme to go out.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1. To be fair, as we British always are, one instance of unacceptable behaviour does not excuse another. However, argieland sent a pirate by the name of Jewett to the Falklands to 'claim' the Islands illegally in 1820. In 1832, argieland sent a band of rapists, murderers and other criminals to set up a penal colony. In 1964, an argentine terrorist lands a private aircraft on the Falklands. In 1966 a group of argie terrorists called the Condors crash-lands a hijacked DC-4 on the race course, and 'claims' the Islands. Then there was the argie sports idiot dancing around on the war memorial. And argieland whinges about a number plate?
Dec 08th, 2014 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anybody got an email address for Rona Fairhead so I can send a message telling her what to do with the Castro woman's bleats?
This show will let the world see the real RG behavior.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's what they're scared of..
There's not much left bringing in u$ and they don't need more foreign tourists shying away.
Its already perceived as being dangerous and this sho aint helpin
Its already perceived as being dangerous …. Yes, that is the general perception at the moment and for good reason. Crime is through the roof.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 023. All the neighborhoods that used to be considered safe in BA have so much crime now.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They've got to get it under control before it ends up like Caracas.
@23
Dec 08th, 2014 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that why they recruited 10000 more police officers in BA alone.? What about the rest of the country or is it just BA?
the number plate cannot be changed. (twins cars)
Dec 08th, 2014 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 02. the police or officials give you consent to change it???? its ilegal.
3. the cars were without number plate in lasts photos. ilegal
4. the cars were transformated in the meanwhile (they were put a tráiler) you need permission to use that. if not ilegal.
5. the heavy jokes made were to produce these angry reactions, if you dont make them nothing would have happened and you wouldnt put the show in christmas day.
arg paid for putting a ban saying Malvinas arg in a football game played in arg. sports should not mix with politics neither with cars.
Most of the civilised world ignored what the crocked argies had to say a long time ago,
Dec 08th, 2014 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this is nothing more than an excuse to throw more anti British bile.
to anyone that will listen.
@25 Did you see the video of the pickpocket caught in action over at Bubblear.com? No shame. No police. They know it is pointless so the Argentines dealt with it directly. They did rather well and very civilised but the criminal had no shame whatsoever.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0crocked ==crooked, sorry...lol
Dec 08th, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 028, The passengers were decent with her because they knew she worked for some Mafia organization and if they did something they'd retaliate.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its a horrible place, its stuff like that I could not stand any longer and that's why I moved back to the USA.
If the population doesn't do something to reign in the crime it will get exponentially worse and be like Caracas in no time.
sports should not mix with politics neither (with no, sorry) cars.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and in patagonian provinces they should check other posible infractions of these vehicles: trasspassing speed limits, parking in inappropiate place, saw a photo parking in banquina, and if they have all the papers of the cars in rule and all the permissions required??? because if they change the number plate, they could have commit any other inappropiate action too.
30 take care..........!.I cant breath”, first the police kilsl you and then they arrest you.
@31 NABO we don't don't understand you! U spika the eeenglish?
Dec 08th, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0sure sure they have trasspassed speed limit and parked in inappropiated places.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0those infractions are expensive. as you are worried about costs.
sports should not mix with politics neither
Dec 08th, 2014 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not aware of any British sports team politicising the Falkland Islands. Your statement is correct-I hope Argentina have learned the lesson of trying to publicise their colonial aims in football and hockey/the Olympics-which appeared to backfire.
sports should not mix with politics. neither cars. (cars should not mix with politics).
Dec 08th, 2014 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malcontent @35
Dec 08th, 2014 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please use google translate we do not comprehende
I think it is using google translate, he's probably dumb in spanish too.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malen IS just like Brassiero, he is an Argie persona created by the same people and run by the same 2 or more people that run Brassie - one an inarticulate knob and the other, an indoctrinated K troll who is fluent in English.
Dec 09th, 2014 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0@38
Dec 09th, 2014 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lol - Bingo!
This all is indeed great, it is fostering and promoting even further and more widespread hatred amongst the population of both countries for the other, and that is fantastic!
Dec 09th, 2014 - 04:50 am - Link - Report abuse 030 YB
Dec 09th, 2014 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Trolls will deny there is a problem with crime.
They'll just blame the woman's behaviour on her ethnicity - a subhuman member of society, or an illegal - ie. she's Bolivian or something.
Crime must be rising as prices rise, and purchasing power drops...
And why wasn't this so-called evidence revealed until just now ?
Dec 09th, 2014 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0It seems that it would have been important to produce it before. Thins must be getting desperate for the Ambassador and former flight attendant Castro.
Speaking of reproductions, anyone can manufacture or reproduce such car plates. Even fraudulent passports from all countries can be made and purchased.
yankeeboy
Dec 09th, 2014 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its a horrible place, its stuff like that I could not stand any longer and that's why I moved back to the USA.
so the usa, eh?
it seems you choose the wrong place then.
Ferguson Riots and Bundy Ranch Showdown - Signs of an Approaching Breaking Point
http://scgnews.com/ferguson-riots-and-bundy-ranch-showdown-signs-of-an-approaching-breaking-point
5 RACE RIOTS IN OBAMA'S POST-RACIAL AMERICA
not to mention the more than 150 school massacres during the 21st century.
horrible, horrible place.
Paul, The people rioting are the same as the Occupy Wall Street, they're professional agitators, I saw protests in 2 cities, both had about 30-40 people chanting and holding signs.
Dec 09th, 2014 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In a free country we are allowed to do that.
Nobody was burning tires, destroying private property, hurting anyone, this is not the 3rd world ie Argentina.
I am really happy I moved back. I wouldn't even go to Argentina for a vacation now.
#40
Dec 09th, 2014 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The scenario of which you are delighted, in the past has resulted in wars. Is this what you want for your country ?
And he's out!
Dec 09th, 2014 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/176794/la-boca-motochorro-out-of-jail-as-he-awaits-trial
Ah the benefits of being a professional motochorro robbing foreigners for Vatayon Militante on the government payroll.
@45
Dec 10th, 2014 - 05:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nope, not for mine, or yours. I do want the acrimony however.
#47
Dec 10th, 2014 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0All I am saying is that if you rank up the rhetoric, things can get out of control !
@47
Dec 10th, 2014 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Speaking of acrimony, Chopper, have you managed to locate an Afro -Argentine to stab for the holiday yet? There's only 15 more chopping days left until Christmas!
The conflict in the South Atlantic - and especially the memory or those who lost their lives in the war on both sides- deserves to be treated not with malicious mockery, but with understanding and respect.
Dec 10th, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The stupid woman should heed her own words.............. This is something that argentina has comprehensively FAILED to do since the end of the war.
@49
Dec 11th, 2014 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0So it wasn't enough that first you insulted my cousin as a gorilla / Sasquatch for her size 45 shoe, now you claim I have said somewhere I am seeking to kill an Afro-Argentine.
Do you have any sense of shame, or are you fully British in character?
@51
Dec 11th, 2014 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not at all Chopper, just wishing you and your buddy Drink A Very Martin Fierro Christmas. ;)
Chopper? I don't get that name. I thought I was Ucumar due to my size 50 shoe.
Dec 11th, 2014 - 01:39 am - Link - Report abuse 044 - Yank urself....
Dec 12th, 2014 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0In a free country we are allowed to do that.
Nobody was burning tires, destroying private property, hurting anyone, this is not the 3rd world ie Argentina.
You are a d-u-m-b-a-s-s, Did you just not see Ferguson Missouri?? Did you happen to not see the buildings set ablaze or cars firebombed or the National Guard and the semi military Police detaining the looting? How about NYC where the cops choked a man to death for selling cigaretted without a license. How about Rodney King and the LA Watts and Compton riots. bravo stupid.
54 Sall-ass Dumb-ass,
Dec 12th, 2014 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0How many times a day do your cops kill people in Argentina, without a frickin' peep from the people or government?
Kinda like they just accept it in The Dark Country.
Sad comment on your crumbling society and economy.
This is all part of a Grand Plan by the Brits to completely undermine Argentina and make them look stupid.
Dec 12th, 2014 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Subtle and slow, little by little, pressure here, pressure there, exploit the weaknesses, go for the pinch points...
Keep smiling, whilst constantly chipping away at the feet of clay...
So far, so good!
Bwwwaaaaahahahahahaha!
Suckers....
56
Dec 13th, 2014 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0ilsen , ha ha, you crack me up!!
@54
Sallus / Dumbass, how's your blood pressure ???
Bah ha ha ha ha!!
57 - tempest -
Dec 13th, 2014 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh the angelic Uk and their can do no wrong military, proud as ever:
One BBC news correspondent, who trailed through the document’s 4,500 pages, highlighted a section labeled “UK Collaboration,” in which the Brazilian military’s admiration for British interrogation methods was laid bare, especially over the UK’s “discretion” when dealing with detainees and its “clean torture”
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/12/12/us-uk-trained-brazil-military-in-torture-techniques-british-were-particularly-sophisticated
oops...what other little dirty secrets does the UK have. now go fk yourself.
Still didnt manage to kill 30000 of are own people and ground are economy into the dirt. Even with losing an empire fighting two world wars.
Dec 13th, 2014 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0argentina shooting itself in the foot for a hundred years the fact you only started bleating about malvinas when it looked liked hitler would win shows how well you are at picking winners.
59 - Mr Nick - start throwing stones in a glass house. You Brits have a lot of skeletons that make Argentina's state sponsored disgrace of 10k murders (clearly unacceptable) look like a walk in the park. For the Brits, it's a matter of picking the century for the British Genocide - Where do you want to start??? Up until 1947, Indians claim that the UK is responsible for up to 1.8 BILLION INDIAN DEATHS. You managed to kill off over ONE MILLION IRISH in the Potato Genocide and you literally killed off the Tasmanian population and this Nick is the tip of the ice berg. You would hope that with the subjugation and the mass slave labor that the UK employed that there would be something left over in the
Dec 13th, 2014 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UK coffers. We all know that the native FI'ers are either practicers of incest or the product thereof, I'll gladly throw my lot in with Argentina.
@58 Sallus
Dec 13th, 2014 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sallus, you are like the mobsters buying guns to machine gun bank tellers, and then blaming it on the gun manufacturers.
@60 Sallus
1.8 billion Indian Deaths ?? - doesn't that sound ludicrous, even to you??
That would have 4 x the population of India in 1947.
Tell me, what is your IQ ???
How would you or a few thousand Brits go about killing 1.8 BILLION people across a whole continent?
I suppose you find it comforting to think it's true, so you believe it.
What a fool you are!!! Are you a child??
Now, you're calling the Potato FAMINE a Potato GENOCIDE - you idiot !!
How many countries practiced in the Slave Trade?
Did you know that England outlawed slavery in all her territories and colonies by 1833, well before Argentina???
Argentina still legally had African slaves until 1861.
The first Constitution of Argentina abolished slavery in 1853. This, however, did not apply to Buenos Aires, as it was not a part of the Confederation. Once Buenos Aires joined the Confederation in 1861, slavery was completely abolished in Argentina.
http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/view/document/obo-9780199766581/obo-9780199766581-0157.xml
And... what happened to all that large population of African slaves you exploited??
The Trolls would tell us that they all became full Argentine citizens in the enlightened new Republic.
However, they don't mention the systemic racial discrimination they faced.
Where are the blacks now?? Almost unseen in modern Argentina, unlike your neighbours.
During the Triple Alliance against Paraguay, the Blacks were all put on the front lines - cannon fodder for the enemy guns!
How about now the Argentine War of the Desert, your hero Roca's campaign of genocide against the Amerindians of Patagonia ???
Today, the UK has one of the most culturally diverse societies, and a democracy to be envied.
Argentina??
One of the most overtly racist countries in the Western Hemisphere, and a corrupt Dictatorship.
You're a fool !
#60
Dec 14th, 2014 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0We killed 1.7 billion Indians.That is about 6 times the population between 1800/1900's
Throw in your lot with Argentina. Now why is that no surprise. It matters not a whit if you do that or throw yourself off a cliff. It doesn't affect us in the slightest.
61/62 - Troy and Clyde - you both arrogant p.o.s., then you wonder why people blame and despise the Brits and their colonial tendencies, you actually think I am that foolish to post that large sad human figure without at least looking it up, here are a many website contending the same (aren't you proud to be British??? I'd f%%king burn the Jack flag truthfully):
Dec 15th, 2014 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://newbritishempire.site11.com/british-genocides.html
http://newbritishempire.site11.com/british-genocides.html
http://newbritishempire.site11.com/british-genocides.html
Here are some excerpts if you are too lazy to go to the websites:
”The “avoidable deaths” (from violence, deprivation and deprivation-exacerbated disease) in British India totalled 1.5 billion (or 1.8 billion if you include the so-called Native States). About 20% of the victims (about 350 million) were Muslims. ”
“ Educated Indians are aware of the ghastly 2-century imposition of British colonialism on India. However, because history is generally written by non-scientists, most Indians are utterly unaware of the horrendous human cost (1.8 billion violent and non-violent avoidable deaths in the period 1757-1947).
The British deliberately caused famines in India
The British caused the genocide of 2 million out of 8 million Irish subjects in four years. When it was over, the British officials directly in charge of Irish famine relief, particularly acting Treasury Minister Sir Charles Trevelyan, congratulated themselves and were decorated as Queen Victoria made her gala 1848 visit to Ireland.
In 1962, MI6 and SAS begin covert operation in North Yemen that eventually involves providing arms, funding and logistical support to royalist rebels in dirty war against pro-Egyptian republican forces. Around 200,000 die in the war.
British invaded in 1914. Bombing of Kurds using poison gas in the 1920s.”
Who is the fool......Brit.
43. Paul you ran away from my question. Why did Argentina kill off the black race.....like a final solution.....why?
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