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Argentina praised Uruguay's support in the Malvinas dispute with UK

Saturday, December 13th 2014 - 04:03 UTC
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Argentina’s ambassador to Uruguay Dante Dovena has praised the “commitment” and support of President Jose Mujica administration in the country’s sovereignty dispute against the UK as he readied to close he 2014 Malvinas Forum in the neighboring nation. Read full article

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  • Z-ville

    Yes!

    Especially the idea of organizing a landing party of supermodels to marry off sheep farmers into oblivion.

    Recruiting posters will go up in BA any day now...

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    “Argentina’s ambassador to Uruguay Dante Dovena ” said....
    etc. etc.
    No word from Uruguay to confirm the usual verbal diarrhea from Argentina.

    NB: Ms Laurnaga, Chamber of Deputies, (of the Frento Amplio no less!), has previously noted the pivotal role of a former member of the UK House of Commons, Lord John Ponsonby, who was the chief negotiator of the Treaty of Montevideo which created the independent state of Uruguay in 1828.

    hmmm...

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 04:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Usual drivel. Funny how you never hear firsthand from the politicians that allegedly support Argentina's illegitimate sovereignty claims, just third-hand via Argentinean politicians. A sovereignty claim without a sovereignty case can only mean it is illegitimate and w o r t h l e s s. 92 years since the world court system came into existence to deal with sovereignty disputes is a hell of a lot of acquiescence and nullifies anything that Argentina has. Lol

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Somebody's evidently not been paying attention to Pepe's most recent pronouncements on th extent of Uruguay's commitment to the Malvinista cause: “Oh, what a mess that was! I had the British ambassador and all others calling me...and well, I'm not after a fight with the British at this stage. Why should I pick a fight? I don't fight with nobody but there are moments when you are forced to opt; you're not left with much space to move”

    and

    “when your recover the Malvinas, then you'll have to deal with us, because originally during the Spanish empire, the Islands depended from the naval stockade in Montevideo, under direct command from the king in Spain, not from Buenos Aires. They didn't trust you”.

    http://en.mercopress.com/2014/12/01/a-malvinas-invasion-with-women-mujica-proposes-to-the-argentines

    It's really rather unfair, in my view, for the other implanted Italo-Iberian colonial populations of South America to allow Argentina to persist in its delusion of completely committed support, but I guess at the end of the day they're perfectly happy to have Argentina's bile and aggression directed, for the most part, offshore.

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Never forget that the argies are so stupid they fuck themselves over in the eyes of the world, especially when they ‘awarded’ a Malvinas Medal to Rosadilla who was in JAIL during the war: being a cowardly Tupa he allowed himself to be caught and not ‘fight to the death’ as they all trumpeted until push came to shove,BUT HE WOULD HAVE FOUGHT FOR TDC!

    Of course he would the old drunk.

    As long as this is all there is from the argies, the Islanders have no need to be fearful.

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Who gives a shit?

    Honestly Argentina, get over it. It's been more than a fricking century and no one gives a fuck anymore.

    2014 such it up bitch and accept reality. You sound like s pathetic whining old cow.

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Where's our war-mongering latam common taters? Surely one of them has some new excuse. The papal bull of 1493 and the subsequent treaty. The spanish purchase. The 'invasions' of argieland that never happened. The american pirate. The treacherous merchant from Hamburg. The penal 'colony'. The murderers who became 'heroes'. The treaty that doesn't say what it says. The war that argieland lost but celebrates. Surely there must be something new by now. All the above have been debunked.

    It's certain that the Islanders have nothing to fear. Faced by 41 million enemies, a small British garrison is enough to frighten them. One wonders how 1200 troops, 4 combat aircraft, 1 patrol vessel and 1 warship could 'frighten'? I looked up the combined strengths of the armed forces of 8 latam states. 1,163,494 personnel. 1,724 aircraft and 392 vessels. Brazil alone has 627 aircraft and 112 vessels. Who's doing the militarisation?

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 7 Conqueror
    “I looked up the combined strengths of the armed forces of 8 latam states. 1,163,494 personnel. 1,724 aircraft and 392 vessels. Brazil alone has 627 aircraft and 112 vessels.”

    But how many of them have been used in anger against the Brits?

    The last bunch got their arses handed to them on a plate and all the usual suspects are back in their shells, never to appear without the argies, and where are they? All hiding behind TMBOA skirts.

    Tossers R Us does not cover it.

    Chile of course is a friend and does not count in this “Cowards Charter of SA”.

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    @8
    I thought that the latam states were all peace loving and against militarisation.

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @9

    Of course they are. They're only against people of a different origin having the means to defend themselves.

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Falklands. Bloody, FALKLANDS!

    What about all the territory that rotting roadkill will have to cede to its creditors?

    I want dual citizenship in Singerland!

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    2
    “No word from Uruguay to confirm the usual verbal diarrhea from Argentina.”

    says ilsen, the resident imbecile of this 4th class site...lol
    meanwhile in the real world:

    “DECLARACIÓN DE URUGUAY ANTE OEA
    Almagro: “Malvinas es un vestigio del colonialismo””
    “Las islas Malvinas siguen siendo una herida en el territorio americano”, dijo el canciller Luis Almagro
    http://www.republica.com.uy/un-vestigio-del-colonialismo/460280/

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @12

    A declaration! Oh my!

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    @12 The declaration is illegal because self-determination is erga omnes (places and obligation on ALL States) and jus cogens (compelling law). It is therefore I r r e l e v a n t.

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    14
    the illegal are all of you, bunch of squatters.

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    What a load of brainwashed loaded crap,

    its a well known Fact,
    that CFK regularly goes along rows and rows of teddy bears on shelves thanking them for their support of the none existent claim.

    the sooner she goes the better.

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    12 bottyboypaulie........

    “says ilsen, the resident imbecile of this 4th class site...”

    Ha,ha,ha!!! I am sure that Ilsen is going to be beside himself now, having just been insulted by the one person on this site who could loose a game of noughts and crosses to a plank of wood.

    By the way bottyboypaulie..... Just a thought:- YOU do know that the last name of your tag, rhymes very nicely with the word “Moron”?

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    So strong is Uruguay's support that there is a Uruguayan ship berthed here at present (and has been here a few weeks) flying the Falklands flag on her mast.
    Chuckle chuckle
    17 Too Old
    Hello my old mate. I hope you and your good wife have a lovely festive season with family and friends.

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Swede

    Strange that the South American countries talk so much about “colonialism” regarding the Falklands. Nobody ever mentions French Guiana, an integral part of the European republic of France on the SA mainland. 83,500 sq kms Europaean territorry on the very continent, compared to 12,200 sq kms in the south Atlantic.

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    18 Jo Bloggs

    Jo!!! were you “Joe Bloggs”?? You've gone all cosmopolitan on me, confused me for a while there.

    But how are you? I am hoping that the Bloggs family are all safe and well. Just about managed to get all the shopping ( present ) done now. All that remains is the food.

    Hope you and yours have a good one. Keep on posting old friend!!

    Dec 13th, 2014 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @12. Do you think it makes a difference if you trot out one of your resident, cowardly, Uruguayan assholes? Just take a look at him. A transsexual faggot with no brain.
    @15. Couldn't think of anything else, numbnuts? Do you have nuts? On the available evidence you are murderers, rapists, genocides. Having to revise your view of that arse, Roca, aren't you? How many more of your 'heroes' will turn out to be shit? If you want some help, we can point them out to you.

    Dec 14th, 2014 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    20 Too Old
    Hello mate. Yep it's me: I went so long without logging on that I forgot my login details and had to set up a new account! Hence Jo Bloggs. Have a really good Christmas and New Year my friend and you keep posting also.

    I've finished my retaining wall and paths and now I'm half way through the first bathroom renovation; no time for MP and besides, it's pretty boring reading the same couple of trolls with their multiple logins wheeling out the same crap day in day out.

    Take care.

    Dec 14th, 2014 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    22 Jo Bloggs

    “I've finished my retaining wall and paths and now I'm half way through the first bathroom renovation”

    Dear god!!! and I thought that tidying the garden for winter was enough!!! Still, anything that keeps you busy huh?

    Christmas day this year will be the Tooold family + Mrs Tooold's mother + my mother and her dog. Stand by for complete mayhem and confusion but then it ( should ) all calm down for a few days although my brother has his birthday on the 28th, should be a good one as offspring N01 is now old enough to drink!

    I hope that you find time in your busy schedule for Christmas!! and I hope that it will be a good one.

    All the best to you and your family

    from Nottingham

    UK.

    Dec 14th, 2014 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Paulcedron - You are as naïve as your dumb president and For Minister! What do these “declarations” mean in REAL life?
    I will tell you - they mean NOTHING!
    Facts for you -
    Uruguay trades with the Falklands

    In that trade, Uruguyan Govt departments communicate with and agree documentation with the Govt of the Falkland Islands.

    The words used are Falkland Islands or Islas Falklands.

    Falklands Registered Fishing Vessels visit and dock in Montevideo

    Life goes on pretty normal!

    Just the same as it does with Chile.

    Sucker.

    Dec 14th, 2014 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    @ 15 'the illegal are all of you, bunch of squatters'

    Like to back up the rhetoric with any facts?

    Waiting...

    Dec 14th, 2014 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    “ of the resource-rich archipelago, occupied by the British in 1833.”

    Also in 1765.

    After Onslow came in 1833, actually there was no official British occupation untill January 1834, unless you count Dickson, Brisbane and Helsby.

    @15

    “the illegal are all of you, bunch of squatters.”

    According to you, though if you have a case why don't you present it to the ICJ?

    If what the oil companies are doing around the Falkland Islands is illegal, how come your impotent country hasn't arrested and imprisoned them?

    We're still waiting...........................................

    @12
    “DECLARACIÓN DE URUGUAY ANTE OEA”

    And exactly what result has this declaration had?

    Dec 14th, 2014 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @8. I understand what you're saying BUT, Chile does have the ability to withstand argieland, fight back and win. Unless you're assuming that every other latam state would pile in on argieland's side. I can sort of understand Chile wanting a quiet life, but there has to come a time when principles come first. Britain had no need to go to war with Germany in 1939. We weren't being threatened. Whatever we might have suspected the future might hold. Argieland has a 'Treaty of Friendship' with Chile. Hitler had no further territorial ambitions. Argieland planned to attack Chile. Hitler planned to attack the rest of Europe. Argieland didn't 'protest' about the Falklands for 53 years between 1888 and 1941. How long will it be be before argieland decides to assert its dominance in Antarctica, Tierra del Fuego, mainland Chile? Britain will fight. Would Chile? And so Chile must be counted amongst the 'opposition' armed forces. If there was any intelligence in latam, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay would ally with the UK. In 1939, an objective observer would have said that the UK stood no chance. But, by 1941, the UK was starting to win. Without the U.S. it might have taken a little longer. But then, if we hadn't diverted resources to the soviets, they and the nazis might have wiped each other out. So many problems solved. So don't look at NOW, or next year or five years from now. One question. If you had to 'save' argieland or Chile, which would you choose? But if Chile had similar aspirations? Uruguay does. Although Uruguay is no more relevant than an irritating flyspeck.

    Dec 14th, 2014 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Guys!

    We have Dovena and his rent boy Almagro doing this every year in PdelE and we also have a “Declaration” each year.

    FOUR times whilst I have been here and no change whatsoever in the reality of the situation other than Almagros hair is getting thinner and Devena is getting fatter!

    WGAF? Same old, same old. :o)

    Dec 14th, 2014 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    there are Uruguayan brothers who assume the Malvinas question as their own cause.”

    WHOT! no sisters.....lol

    Dec 14th, 2014 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    The irony being of course that Uruguay is the ONLY South American state who has any claim whatsoever, being that the Spaniards who colonised the islands in the 1760s-1811 left via Montevideo, with some becoming Uruguayan (not one NONE became Argentine)

    Dec 14th, 2014 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    @6

    Meanwhile in Ozzer

    http://news.yahoo.com/major-police-operation-unfolding-sydney-235744145.html

    Dec 15th, 2014 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    30

    Don't the Uruguayos complain about the rude Argentinians?
    Don't the Bolivarians get slagged by the RG's, for being “inferior”??
    Don't the Chileans get screwed by Argentina, jealous of the success of LAN ??
    Didn't the RG's try to take the Beagle Channel for themselves??

    Don't the Falkland Islands carry the memory of invasion, and have to arm themselves for their protection from a covetous neighbour??

    What kind of neighbour is that ???

    Sure... best to 'jolly them along' for now, but the reality is... Uruguay... and Brazil... and Paraguay... and Peru... and Chile, will do business with the Fslklands if that's what they feel is in their best interest.

    Forget Argentina!

    Dec 15th, 2014 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Brazil, Chile and Uruguay only pay lip-service to Argentina's illegitimate sovereignty claims. The day will come when their neighbours will remind them that a claim without any legal case is illegitimate and worthless.

    Dec 15th, 2014 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mr Ed

    Well Uruguay does hoard Nazi memorabilia, so no surprise if they are close to TDC on this. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-30471063

    Dec 15th, 2014 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 34

    Hardly 'hoarding' it, more like safe keeping from the argie Nazis.

    Impressive piece of work, pity about the Nazi connotations.

    Dec 15th, 2014 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    Don Pepe should be deported to Martin Garcia Island.

    Philippe

    Dec 16th, 2014 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    The time will come when this so-called 'argentina' will accept that it needs to be divided up between Brazil, Chile and the Faalkland Islands.
    Uruguay could also relaim what is due.
    It is a failed state.
    Progress will eventually arrive, just a matter of time...

    Dec 16th, 2014 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anti-Muppet

    My kids football has went over the neighbours fence, little did I know that they'd planned to claim it as their own and garner support from the Jones's at 42, my fear is that if the Robertson's (at 41) get involved I'll have a 3 way claim on my hands, and no real proof of purchase...

    I wonder if the manufacturer can technically ceed the ball to me on my sons behalf, I know these things can take a while so I've set aside 30 years and put in place a strategic barrage of wheelie bins around said Jones's drive way, next step is to document and fabricate some type of ball constitution, ya'know in case something happens to me, then future generations can carry on the “Cause” I figure a fitting name for this is “recuperar el fútbol”

    and I may add in the documents that, its possible that Mr Jones's estate slightly infringes on my non-continental shelf (overhanging tree with roots under my lawn) Surely, thats a new claim right there, in fact f**k this I'm going over there now with my catapult and some corned beef sarnies, this dispute ends NOW!!

    Dec 17th, 2014 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hernán

    Thank you President Barack Obama and Pope Francis, for your leadership. All countries of America (from Alaska to Tierra del fuego), appreciated and will recognize his leadership forever.

    Today December 17 is a day that will live forever in the memory of Latin Americans.

    Beyond, that many of us in Latin America not share the Cuban ideology, Cuba is an American country and should return to their roots, along with the rest of the countries of America, beyond ideologies, sitting at a table where all the American countries put forward their opinion.

    Now the challenge is to the Cubans themselves, hope in a future free elections and multiparty. Cuba should relax its political system towards new horizons, more democratic and flexible. The countries of Latin America has a fundamental role in this last item.

    NOW THE ONLY DISPUTE WHICH STANDS IS THE MATTER FALKLANDS / MALVINAS. THE UNITED KINGDOM MUST HAVE THE GREATNESS TO START A DIALOGUE, ONLY THAT, DIALOGUE, NOTHING MORE.

    A NEW AMERICA IS EMERGING FROM ALASKA TO TIERRA DEL FUEGO, LONDON TO GIVE ACCOUNT OF THAT.

    OTHERWISE, THE BRITISH ISLANDERS WILL BE THE ONLY PEOPLE IN ALL OUR GREAT AMERICA, ISOLATED WITHOUT BEING ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS OF OUR LIFE AS AMERICANS

    NOW AT THE MEETING OF MERCOSUR, HERE IN ARGENTINA, ALL COUNTRIES OF THE REGION (INCLUDING CHILE) ARE EXPRESSING, JUST RIGHT NOW, THE UNRESTRICTED SUPPORT FOR THE QUESTION MALVINAS AND VULTURES FUNDS TO ARGENTINA.

    FALKLANDS / MALVINAS, FROM TODAY AND LAST GREAT CAUSE OF AMERICA, WE LOVE YOU AND WISH YOU AT HOME, BEAUTIFUL, RADIANT AND VIBRANT AS YOU WENT SOMETIME.

    AMERICA WILL NEVER BE COMPLETE WITHOUT YOU.

    Dec 17th, 2014 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @39

    Don't fret, one day the Falklands will be ready for independence, and powerful enough to reject the last remains of colonialism in America (oops-forgot French Guiana) which is Argentina's outdated colonialism.

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Hernan has been spamming his psycho Malvinas Mantra on several threads!

    He comes across as deranged!!

    :-D

    Dec 19th, 2014 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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