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'Inflation above 30%', says De Mendiguren

Sunday, December 21st 2014 - 23:44 UTC
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Lawmaker and member of the Argentine Industrial Union (UIA) José Ignacio de Mendiguren said that inflation is not 40% as some private indexes say, but he pointed out that it is not around 24% as the government says either. “I think it is over 30%,” he said. Read full article

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  • chronic

    Closer to fiddy, Joe.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    If they're hoping for a repeat of their “recovery” after the default and massive devaluation it is never going to happen.

    There's really something wrong with the way Rgs think. I really don't understand why they can't see what's happening in their macro economics.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    Simple, we don't believe in your immoral economic system.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 04:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    GCT: I guess the campers still believe that the earth is flat? lol. Doom. Pain. Suffering. Collapse. Long live Singerland!

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 06:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @3 TTT, how is Kicillof's system moral? I really want to know.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    @3. Giorgio. 'Immoral economic system'. Funny that Argentina is rated down in 107th position in the Global Corruption Index (UK 14th, Chile & Uruguay joint
    21st). Is 107th position immoral enough?

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @3. Hey ho, Giorgio, are you hoping to be able to blame the aliens. Thinking about it, little grey body, big head, strange eyes. It's Timerman! Remember the tv series 'V' (V stands for Visitor). Turned out to be lizards in human disguises. Sounds like Kirchner. So the next series will be called 'K'. There will still be the usual 'snack' shots. Dropping the live mice into the open mouth, watching it distorting the throat of the lizard as it is ingested. The only difference is that 'K' will be playing herself. The mice will be real. No more camera tricks!

    Now here's an article, published only two months ago, in which the Opposition legislators announced that inflation was 41.06%.
    http://panampost.com/panam-staff/2014/10/16/annual-inflation-in-argentina-soars-to-highest-point-in-decades/
    So what is De Mendiguren up to? Why, apparently, do the majority of 'Opposition lawmakers' have one view, but he has another? But what sort of 'lawmaker' is he? Is he 'Opposition', 'Kirchner' or somewhere in between? Is he trying to make a name for himself? Is he a nutjob? That last seems most likely. Although most argies are nutjobs. The only question is what percentage of each one is 'nut'? We could discount 'job'. Few argies have any knowledge of 'jobs'. In most countries in the western world, a 'job' is an occupation that one goes to 5, 6 or even 7 days a week. The 'norm' is 40 to 42 hours a week. It's not like that in argieland, is it? There, a 'job' is something with which to pass the time. Salaries or wages are based on inaccurate inflation figures and are determined annually irrespective of ability or 'work' done. At the appropriate time, the unions say that everyone should get, say, a 25% pay increase. Where else in the world do you get a 25% pay increase every year? So De Mendiguren, for undisclosed reasons, is trying to cut back pay increases. Does he want to create a massive class of the dissatisfied? Look at the mad, staring eyes!

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    At the same time, we have this :
    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/177862/capitanich-denies-lack-of-inputs-in-auto-industry-blasts-manufacturers
    And this :
    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/177862/capitanich-denies-lack-of-inputs-in-auto-industry-blasts-manufacturers

    Of course they don't believe in “our” system. They believe in THEIR immoral system.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    One thing that I think a lot of people have forgotten about and eventually it will come back to bite Argentina is the understatement of inflation and the overstatement of GDP. Three are U$Billions of bonds linked to those 2 figures.
    At some point they're going to have to restate those figures back a decade and recalculate the amount of interest that needs to be paid out.

    I hope it happens in 2015.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    De Mendiguren and Massa are party made of all former Kirchnerists... How many times was this man clapping CFK and Nestor K in the front row of the UIA ?? How many times was he close to the government

    http://tn-ar.cdncmd.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/970x545-nocrop/2010/11/12/cristina-uia_0.jpg

    http://tn-ar.cdncmd.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/970x545-nocrop/2010/11/12/cristina-uia_0.jpg

    http://tn-ar.cdncmd.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/970x545-nocrop/2010/11/12/cristina-uia_0.jpg

    http://tn-ar.cdncmd.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/970x545-nocrop/2010/11/12/cristina-uia_0.jpg

    The industrial class of Argentina are a problem they depend on the State to protect them from foreign products, devaluate the peso, tax agro export so farmers dump their produce in Argentina making food and raw materials cheap for them to compete. That is why the Mercosur will never work, these are the folks who will prevent it, but the politicians will make you believe that they are defending sugar producers in Tucuman or citrus farmers in Corrientes,

    Industrial populism in Argentina
    http://tn-ar.cdncmd.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/970x545-nocrop/2010/11/12/cristina-uia_0.jpg

    What he wants is another cycle of this but with Massa.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Except the economic conditions that Arg had last decade are vastly different than this decade. There is a sh*tstorm coming and nothing can stop it. It must play out.

    All of these shenanigans the Ks have done to try to push this onto the next Prez is disastrous.
    I truly believe it will be bad enough that you'll see Int'l mfg companies leave for good.
    I long thought this was a case of stupid Marxists blindly ruining the country. I now think is is Stupid Marxists knowingly ruining the country.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    11. I think you are confusing recovery with growth. Argentina during 2002-2006 did more or less recover precrisis level of economic activity. But Argentina never actually grew over those levels.

    You may have a recovery now starting from mid 2016 or 2017. But if these crooks get in they will start another spending circle to get the votes they need in mid terms.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    @5

    It is moral by virtue of not being imposed by you.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    13. How dare you answer back to Elaine?? you are advocating rape!!

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    12. Once they restate the GDP numbers over the last decade I think they'll find there wasn't any growth. I don't think there was even much of a recovery.

    I liken it to the Chinese growth, there's growth because we tell you there's growth. Its all fake inflated/fudged numbers to make them come out where they want them to come out.

    I think its hilarous that they're praising the current retard running BCRA for getting reserves over 30B, it is pure manipulation of the balance sheet. In a civilized country he'd be in jail for cooking the books that way.

    13. Your trolling has really gone downhill. Please shut up and let the grown up talk.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    15.
    Somewhere I heard that Kicillof actually said off the record to the Paris Club earlier this year that in reality Argentina had grown below 6% annualy in the last decade. That is way far from the “tasas chinas” they claimed for years.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @13 So, not moral at all. Just you being a big baby.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    6% is wildly optimistic. Stip out what the gov't has pushed into the economy, which will have to be taken away with the next gov't and I bet the number is close to zeor or neg.
    Its all fake growth.
    BTW I don't think Austral Elvis can add. He's as dumb as they come.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    @17

    Anything not of Anglo origin is by default more moral than whatever is. Does that hurt your feelings? We hate Anglos in this country, and it will and is only getting worse as I said. You and all EUians and NorthAmoans.

    That is not racist because we are merely reacting back to YOUR racism.

    @15

    You are mentally ill and the proof is your first sentence of that response. You need to seek counsel and stabilizing drugs (“no recovery”).

    Anyone with a 1/5 of your brain would know that had the economy stayed the same as 2002, the social unrest would have gotten even worse. You live in a fantasy land where you get titillating sensations by speaking crap about Argentina. You are a verily bizarre organism.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    And the hits just keep on coming. ;)

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/177864/gov%E2%80%99t-confirms-plans-to-extend-tax-amnesty-

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    You have no right to discuss Argentina. Stick to discussing the immoral country of Paraguay.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @19 Gosh you are in a bad mood today. Your response to me doesn't make any sense but I get that you personally hate everyone from the U.K. However, you don't speak for all Argentines. Tough for you to understand, I know, but it is the reality.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    I hate anyone that disrespects me. And you act surprised?

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @22
    “You have no right to discuss Argentina. Stick to discussing the immoral country of Paraguay.”

    Jajajajajajajajaja! Poor Chopper, house of cards falling apart, and no respect for him. ;)

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    24. Why would anyone respect you? You are clearly imbalanced and need psychological help.
    My guess is you either can't afford your meds or they are simply not available any longer in Argentina.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #24 Pagina boi, you have not earned respect.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    @25, 26, 27

    You disrespect all argentines. Simply pathetic excuse for “people”. But you are not people as you are Anglo.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @28
    Still spouting what comes off the top of your head? I disrespect Argentines like you who clearly support the Kleptocracy. I believe you are the one who qualifies as “pathetic.” ;)

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @28 Diverting from my point. You don't speak for all Argentines but I am sorry you feel so unimportant and full of hate.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    @29

    And what business of yours is that ?

    I speak for all argentines in the future. The ones who don't hate you have not read the comments here and on British newspapers or Yahoo! yet.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Such a racist statement Pagina boi. I do not hate all Argentines, your seem to forget my background do you not?

    I hate sock puppet propaganda trolls such as yourself. Hell, you are not even IN Argentina. I am still waiting for you to find that restaurant for me to visit??

    So Pagina boi......are you a Qom or Euro descent? You cannot be NEITHER. So which is it?

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    You are amongst the most racist of all. You speak swill of Argentines here, just like Elaine B. Argentines are the most racist in the world, Argentines are the dirtiest in the world, Argentines are the dumbest in the world, Argentines are the most corrupt in the world, Argentines are the most coward in the world... shall I go on quoting both of you?

    Replace “Argentine” with “Jew” or “Black”. How would that sound?

    You and all the others are racist. But you and Elaine are particularly racist. Elaine because she hides behind fictional Argie friends as a cover to justify her racism. You hide behind your fictional wife. The fact you both are lying about both makes your racism even more egregious.

    Should you both be telling the truth, which I know you are not, it makes it even MORE execrable. Talking swill behind your wife and good friend's back (about them!).

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @31
    “I speak for all argentines in the future.”

    Oh I see, “I'm schizophrenic, and so am I!” Carry on. ;)

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Now I understand! Due to inflation the trolls mummy can no longer afford disposable diapers and he is sitting in a pile of shit. Thats whats making him seem doubly disagreeable these days. Living in liar land his fantasies seem quite nornal to him, especially when his mummy can no longer afford the meds. The fake Greek handle is a hot clue to his real origin and probable present location. Whether he is presently in Greece or Arg, both places are basket cases.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Tony, Which of the 5 races is an Argentine?

    Just a nice aside:
    YPF 1 Yr % Change (TTM)-28.17
    Repsol must be so happy to be out of there!

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Yeah, I have long doubted TTT is living in Mendoza or even Argentina. I have contacts there and have visited a number of times. Nothing he says is anything like my experience of life there. Then again, I think his life is well removed from reality in any country.

    TTT, you still cannot seem to differentiate between the different posters. We are not all the same and I absolutely do not hold the same views as many posters here. I often say so it should be easy for you to understand. Not complicated at all.

    I am chatting with some friends from Argentina at the moment. I know they really live there because we became friends in Argentina. They think you are a twit and not Argentine. You definitely don't speak for them.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Pagina boi, aside from singling you and the other trolls out.........support your statement.

    IN OTHERS WORDS>>>>>>SHOW ME WHERE I POSTED AGAINST ARGENTINA IN GENERAL AND NOT SPECIFICALLY YOU TROLLS AND KIRCHNERS?????

    My Portena wfe knows how I feel how your government FUCKED it's people just like they FUCKED her when they STOLE HER PENSION PAGINA BOI.

    Now you know I am am not the tranny confessed truth telling troll because you are. You claim to be from Mendoza but you cannot even point to a simple restaurant for me to visit with explicit details to the right of the door when entering. WHy is that? Because you cannot google something like that you can only get that information if you were actually IN THAT RESTAURANT.

    Now.........support your claims or shut the fuck up.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    37. yeah but he is so woefully ignorant of other countries.

    I had the same conversation about Think with an Arg friend and he doesn't think he's been to Argentina since the 70s.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    The are a few the reside inside Argentina......tobi, giorgio work whatever along with think are not. They can't substantiate anything about “their” homeland.....Argentina. I believe tobi hates the anglos becuase he lives in Europe and is experiencing some prejudice being a hispanic. He certainly has deep seated hated and anger issues. He's the type to walk into a mall with a gun......poor bastard. The past year......man has he changed. Of course he cannot see that because he is inside trying to look inside.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    40. I think he used to work for an Int'l hotel or the like and was fired for being a weirdo and places the blame on USA EU UK.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas! ;)

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/177870/ba-subway-workers-launch-rolling-strike-

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    I have only been to Mendoza twice, both times on a bike, and both were scary particularly coming in and out through the outskirts. On many occasions I have probed Toby about the place and he has failed to convince me he lives there. These days he seems to go off for a long period and then come back so either he has a job or is attending school. Possibly his carers are limiting his time on PCs. Perhaps they have parental controls? His English is very good indeed so its a fair bet he is in the UK or one of its former colonies and as you say is subject to a lot of piss taking.
    His mental condition does seem to have deteriorated. He fails to be amusing anymore as he once was. He seems fixated on being an anti Anglo/EU racist these days.
    I wonder if he is some sort of savant as he is a wizz at Googling and comes up with all sorts of impressive facts to support his crazy juvenile rants?

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    It is bad enough that the inflation in rotting roadkill approaches fifty (50%) percent this year but that coupled with the universal poor quality of the goods and services that one receives with the payment of these worthless paysos makes this the most overvalued country in the world.

    Examples:

    coffee - the worst in the Americas

    pizza - no relationship to anything ever seen in Italy

    government - lol

    national defenses - a danger to themselves

    beer - quilmes?

    residential construction - do they try to make these things leak?

    mass transportation - buses or trains? pick your method of death

    education - graduates trained to do nothing

    police protection - absent

    clothes/shoes - disposible

    cell service - coverage maps look like Swiss cheese

    broad band - at dial speeds

    You can go on for days! rotting roadkill paysos are a ripoff at 1 to 1. lol

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    coffee - the worst in the Americas- I disagree I like it better than the USA, Havana better than Starbucks......our coffee is like warm pisswater, I like it strong

    pizza - no relationship to anything ever seen in Italy-Depends, but I prefer NYC pizza

    government - lol----AGREED

    national defenses - a danger to themselves---We can overwhelm them with USA Eagle Scouts

    beer - quilmes?----AGrred....I like IPA's and they are unheard of. Quilmes is there Budweiser. Thye, craft ale is catching on.

    residential construction - do they try to make these things leak?-depends

    mass transportation - buses or trains? pick your method of death- this assumes they are not on their monthly strike schedule

    education - graduates trained to do nothing-Public is propaganda and you must get a private education.

    police protection - absent-more corrupt than a kirchnerite eyeing a suitcase full of U$

    clothes/shoes - disposible-Some shoes are ok...clothing.....SUCK...like paper towels and no choices of colors or style.

    cell service - coverage maps look like Swiss cheese-I never when I travel....too expenvice with AT&T

    broad band - at dial speeds-so so as long as it it on. If you lose it, can takes weeks to get it back on. My brother in laws land line phone collapsed last year, still no service.

    You can go on for days! rotting roadkill paysos are a ripoff at 1 to 1. lol

    Argentina is dead and they do not know it. The inside looking in

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    I am happy Toby is encouraging all his “friends” to hate the Uk.

    We have established that he has no friends, and his only sexual encounter was with his club-foot cousin, probably because she couldn't run away quick enough.

    If there were a way that Argentina could “get over” Peronism without the complete collapse of the economy, the deaths of say a million, the utter destruction of the cancerous immoral fabric of the nation...I'd be all for it.

    But we see it here, Argentinas debts...foreign bankers fault, Argentinas power cuts...foreign electricity fault, Argentinas oil shortage...repsols fault, Argentinas inflation...foreigners, Argentinas crime....foreigners,

    It is ludicrous, and so ingrained, like this ridiculous Malvinas myth, it is unpatriotic to question it.....

    To be proud of Argentinas decay over the past 70 years is to hate Argentina...
    To want to be rid of the Peronist cancer is to love Argentina....

    Toby hates Argentina and hates himself...

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Seems the trolls are trying to regroup.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Troll's kung fu is weak.

    Dec 22nd, 2014 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @47
    To quote a now deceased friend, “It's a wargame, ain't it?” ;)

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    @46

    So now being close friends with a family member equals a sexual encounter? Well, I can understand that, since the Anglos have no families to speak of they are amongst the most dysfunctional tossers on Earth. And given the flak we both got (and get) because of our much larger feet, of course we are going to be close. It's not an easy thing, but we have grown strong from it and thus I can talk openly here about it. The insults here about it are absolutely nothing compared to the flesh and blood humiliation both me and her have had.

    So keep it at for all I care, the insults that is.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @50 That is a very sad post.

    First, I want to correct you on the family thing. My house will be full to bursting with my 'no family' over the next week or so……. stop generalising.

    Secondly, I assume from your post that you and your cousin were bullied over your large feet. Maybe it is time to get over it. Children are bullied over all kinds of things in school. Some get stronger and shrug it off and others are deeply affected. But you shouldn't take that anger and bitterness with you for the rest of your life. Look how nasty it has made you. Let it go and stop letting the bullies win.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Thanks you for returning Pagina boi. I really am waiting for the restaurant to visit in Mendoza. You know, with some details to the immediate right, something you cannot google. Ignoring me because you cannot goggle that that? No worries, we all know you are a buss shitter and live in Argentina as much as we live in Argentina.

    Are you a displaced Qom....maybe Guarani......the most discriminated indigenous people in Argentina? Kill any Qom lately?

    SO ......living in Europe and that is why you hate them?

    CYA little pagina boi

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    52. Funny he can't name one place for you.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    @52

    You are a retard.

    @53

    So are you.

    I have named my city at least. You two and all the others are such gutless cowards, none of you have NEVER stated what cities you pollute with your presence. Now that's truly pusillanimous.

    @51

    Oh I knew you would fall into that bait. You are so predictable. But yes, we were at times “bullied” (that is, the joking continued even after we had enough of it), but whatever. My foot is size 50 and hers is 45, it is quite large but we in a way understand why people would stare or make comments. They are much bigger than everyone else's.

    As for family, please who are you kidding. You don't even care or know half of the people you will have over to “your house”. It is all a big lie, “oh how good to see you”, when in reality you could give a fly-f--@! I have never read upon such a sad family life as that of the Anglos. In fact, have you ever heard of anyone taking an English family as a model to follow in ANYTHING at all?

    Absolutely not. Because there is practically no such thing as an English family.

    In fact, I don't even recall any English family-themed tv show at all! That's how bad it is.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Great Pagina boi.....I am a retard. ( afraid to think what that makes you), however......you dear chica remain a liar who does not life in Argentina.

    Uruguay maybe, Europe most likely. Mendoza.......a snowball's chance in hell that you live there.

    Get a shot of your estrogen.....being in Europe you chances are not so good for your long waited for Pagina.

    No restaurant for me? The MP world see's you for the liar that you are and have proven yourself to be.

    BTW Pagina.....with feet like that you really should take up scuba!!!

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

    QOM Mapuche Guarani?

    Have you read the Indigenous peoples news lately?

    size 50 do you prefer Sasquatch, Pagina boi or Titti Boi? Choices....all these choices

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Hobbit comes to mind, are your feet hairy too?

    Poor thing, no wonder you're so nutty.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @54 WHy are you still letting the bullies ruin your life. You are so full of hatred, envy and bitterness. Still allowing them to win.

    That you know nothing of family life in England is evident. You don't really know much of anything. By making such stupid statements only highlights your ignorance; nothing more.

    You do say you come from Mendoza but I am pretty sure you don't. You lie so much that nothing you say has any merit.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I think at best his descendants cam from mendoza and he whines to go back because he, like Stevie, lives in exile in Europe and they both do not know just how bad it is there.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    To be honest, it doesn't much matter where he lives. He talks such bullshit that no one could ever believe him if he gave us his full address.

    I think, on balance, Mendoza is probably one of the better places to be in Argentina at the moment.

    On my first visit many years ago I walked everywhere and felt reasonably safe. The wineries were flourishing and people were investing in land and property there. Apart from the beggars and a few protests going on, the city seemed to be doing well.

    The last time I was there I noticed an increase in security and the locals were nervous. Crime was a real problem and we were forever being warned by the locals. I did still walk but it gave my Argentine friends the heebie jeebies so I gave in to taxis. The wineries were complaining about not being able to get parts for machinery and locals confirmed everything was getting worse. It has deteriorated more since then.

    It does look as if Argentina is back on my agenda for next year so I shall get to see for myself.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    All this talk about where I live yet meanwhile you cowards STILL don't provide cities of residence. Pathetic.

    @57

    The bitterness and anger is only towards you guys here, because that is what you throw at us argies. Part of having very big feet was that you must fight back bullies, or at least kinda make jokes of your own and take no sh!t.

    That's what I do here with you guys.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @60 Now, that is not true is it. You despise all women - no exceptions. That is a few billion people for starters. You constantly profess to hate all people from the U.K. and the U.S and Europe. That is an awful lot of people. You also told us you don't need friends.

    You are remarkably thick today. It doesn't matter that you say you live in Mendoza, there is no way of proving it. I could give you my address as Sandringham, Norfolk PE35 6EN, England but it doesn't prove anything.

    What is peculiar is your claim that Mendoza is thriving when clearly it isn't.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @60
    “All this talk about where I live yet meanwhile you cowards STILL don't provide cities of residence. Pathetic.”

    This is precisely what I noticed about you and a couple of other pro K posters here. You are trying to identify opponents. You serve no other purpose. ;)

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @62 You are right. They try to draw personal information rather than debate. Unfortunately, in doing so, they tend to expose themselves.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #60 bull shit Pagina boi..............Everyone here knows where i live ....AND was born.

    Tobi my email address is clean at m.cher@outlook.com and my IP points right to Massachusetts.

    You......are an Argentine descendant and NOT an Argentine citizen. Find a restaurant for me in Mendoza yet? Highly unlikely considering that you do not live in Argentina at all. you free falling liar.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Maybe Chopper has some insight on this story. ;)

    http://panampost.com/belen-marty/2014/12/23/argentineans-hoard-disappearing-tampons/

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Maybe Pagina boi, aka tobi is in fact in Argentina!!!

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    @63

    HAHAHAH! YOU are the ones trying to get my personal info, where I live, what neighborhood in Mendoza, and even to meet me in person or give you directions to a restaurant!

    LOSER weirdos!

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @67 Stop lumping us all together, I never want to meet you or know where you live. I couldn't give a flying fuck.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    No cares about you personally.......just validate you are in Argentina. Why not? Because you are not in Argentina. I've been t here more than you.......lol...lying loser.

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Meanwhile in the real world, things look worse economically. ;)

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/177945/argentina-loses-appeal-against-griesa%E2%80%99s-discovery-orders

    Dec 23rd, 2014 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    70. I knew they'd lose. Once this is sorted out they're going to have a very difficult time buying anything with the U$.
    Tick Tock
    2015 will be interesting

    Dec 24th, 2014 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @67

    Hey before you take off on that Ucumar expedition over Christmas, here's seasons greetings straight out of Argentine history. ;)

    http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperxmas_zps429518cb.jpg?t=1419305013

    Dec 24th, 2014 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    @61

    When was the last time I claimed Mendoza was “thriving”? Six months ago? You are such an idiot, what I do say is things are not collapsing like you claim. I have always said as well that the long term trend is down since Argentina is on the descending slope of its history.

    I have always been consistent, unlike you or anyone else.

    Worry more about Ottawa and Sydney, your Anglo cousins who live in cities that have been warzones in 2014.

    Dec 24th, 2014 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @73 Interesting. So you think things have deteriorated in Mendoza in the last six months? Yes, I agree.

    Your hyperbole is consistent.

    Dec 24th, 2014 - 08:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio C. Tsoukalos

    @74

    Yeah and? Don't things “deteriorate” in England? Like in the late 2000s? The difference is I explain it as normal ups and downs of the economic cycle. You try to create this entire myth that “deterioration” is a uniquely argentine thing. Because you are a wankress.

    Dec 24th, 2014 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @75 No, that is your victim mentality at work.

    Argentina is not just on a 'natural' downward turn, it is crashing spectacularly because of your corrupt and incompetent government. Sure it has happened before because of particular factors in Argentina that make it more pronounced but this time it will be worse. Downturns are not uniquely Argentine but the scale of it is.

    Dec 24th, 2014 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Oh joy.....the modern Exodus?

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/11/30/argentina-default-moving-to-united-states/18865583/

    Obviously Pagina boi has his pulse on the people of Argentina. See what happens when you espouse about a country you do not line Tobi?

    Dec 24th, 2014 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    76. You're right about that, holiday sales are “up” 12% yoy except inflation is 50% so they're really down 38%!!!
    The ups and downs of their cycles are incredible. Even in the deepest darkest day of our recession stats didn't fluctuate that dramatically.

    I've said for a long time that this crash is going to be unlike any other crash they've had, nobody cares enough about Argentina to bale them out. I think the USA want's to teach them a lesson to try to bring them back into the real world, so we're out, IMF is out, the USA will block WB and IDB loans, Venezuela is out, the only one left is China and I don't see them doing much more than they already have.
    If they can't get BODEN bonds refinanced, and they'll try again, they literally don't have enough U$ to make in through 2015. They have nothing to sell.
    I can't wait for NML to start seizing their non embassy properties in the USA. That could happen this year. That will be fun to watch.

    Dec 24th, 2014 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @78 What do you mean by the real world?

    Dec 25th, 2014 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    79. The world the rest of us live in. Rgs are delusional, fcking heterodoxy economic plans that make your people worse off than they were before the crash. Every decade Rgs get poorer and dumber, its happened for the last 75 years.
    Why would you try it again?
    Is it insanity?

    Dec 27th, 2014 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    @ 37 ElaineB who writes: “Yeah, I have long doubted TTT is living in Mendoza or even Argentina.”

    Idiot child Tobias does not live in Mendoza.

    Last I was in Mendoza, for a visit of several months, I challenged him to tell which streets were closed for repair and he vanished into thin air on some childish excuse.

    Dec 27th, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Almost all the trolls do not live in Argentina any longer. They support Kirchners from abroad from where they can actually live.

    Dec 27th, 2014 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @81 Interesting. One time when he was indignant and belligerent towards people doubting he lived in Mendoza I offered to assist him in silencing his doubters. He swiftly disappeared off line for the entire time I was there.

    Dec 28th, 2014 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    A NECESARY REVISION.
    One year ago, some of those econochantas, who often appear on tv giving economic predictions, said that for the end of 2014, arg. was going to have between 20 and 25 thousand million dollars, beside they also said that the dollar quotation was going to be almost out of controll. I knew that they were wrong, not because i'm a genious, actually i'm not, i knew it because they have always failed in their predictions since 2003. Perhaps they can't make serious critics to the falencies of c. f. k's government, or maybe they are just repeating what is convenient to the corporate interests that some of them represent.
    It's well known that this year wasn't good for arg., not ony for the mistakes committed by the government, but also because of the bad situations that some of our main trade partners are going through, beside, the global economic situation is still too weak, which is something that prejudices our trade.
    However, the state made a great effort to keep the consumption levels, despite some jobs were lost. On the other hand, after the swap with china, and the negotiations with those cretins farmer who didn't want to sell the harvests, now we have more than 31 thousand million dollars, which is a very good level to pay all our obligations, beside the dollar quotation is absolulty under controll.
    There is a mountain of legitimate critics that anybody can make to c. f. k's administration, but nobody can deny that her pulse didn't tremble, when she took some hard decisions for economic power, and decided to carry on a great confrontation with them, who committed 9 economic runs since 2007, with the purpose of braking her government down, as they did with alfonsin in 1989.
    In just one year will be in office the new president of arg., it's well known that whoever wins, won't be able to dismantle the achievements that workers could get since 2003, due to people have already empowered of them, which is wonderful.

    Dec 28th, 2014 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    “One year ago, some of those econochantas, who often appear on tv giving economic predictions, said that for the end of 2014, arg. was going to have between 20 and 25 thousand million dollars, beside they also said that the dollar quotation was going to be almost out of controll. I knew that they were wrong, not because i'm a genious, actually i'm not, i knew it because they have always failed in their predictions since 2003.”

    You nimrod, they would have that balance if China did not give them Yuans to convert into U$. If you actually think they maintained reserves because of anything other than China's bailout/currency swap.....aka BORROWED MONEY, you are beyond comprehension.

    What is it that you hate about people controlling their own lives?

    Why is it that you prefer the overall populace decreasing in self sufficiency and wealth in order to rise the minority?

    Dec 28th, 2014 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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