MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Alleged Falklands' links sufficient motive to suspend fishing license of Tierra del Fuego company
Argentina's Tierra del Fuego provincial government decided on Wednesday to preventatively suspend Pesantar's fishing license following claims that the company is associated with another group operating in the South Atlantic but with a Falklands' government license. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesFairly pathetic.
Jan 08th, 2015 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh let them go!
Jan 08th, 2015 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentines just want to feel important as no-one else takes much notice of them.
Laughable & childish, really.
totally pathetic
Jan 08th, 2015 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's the governer wanting to 'appear' decisive when he is really an idiot.
Jan 08th, 2015 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Both feet shot again!
You have to laugh!
TDF Governor needs to make her mind up who the Islands belong to - last week the Ushuaia authorities refused to allow a cruise vessel to discharge for waste some items it had loaded the week before in Stanley.
Jan 08th, 2015 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently they came from “outside the national territory” according to the port authorities!!!
So yes - we are indeed the British Falkland Islands and NOT Argentine - it is now official according to local authorities in Ushuaia!
Excellent idea. Does the phrase 'cutting your own throat' come to mind? It's always difficult to tell which argie province is top of the 'Are we the most stupid' league? It's fun to sit and watch. Falklands vessels might dock (port fees) and require resupply (fuel payment, chandlers' goods, repairs, replacement parts), but can't. A company involved in fishing can't go fishing. Can't bring in catches that would bring in money. Cruise ships are turned away. (No fuel purchases, no resupplies, no tourists spending money in town). And the effects on the Falkland Islands are what exactly? Zero or close to it. Argieland is truly hilarious.
Jan 08th, 2015 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh ffs, it's called PRINCIPLE.
Jan 08th, 2015 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is standing up against the British, and while I don't agree at all with the main reason (the Falklands, which are British islands inhabited by British passport holders), I most certainly do agree with confronting the British as Argentines, and also agree with the principle of dying on your feet than living on your knees.
I rather be dead than have to thank Europeans for anything.
7
Jan 08th, 2015 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Standing up against the British... ”
Against the British what.... aggression???
“... dying on our feet... ”
Ha ha ha .... who's dying???
You are so melodramatic - contriving conflict where there is none, not really, anyway.
Do you feel reassured being 'the inactive activist'???
Carry on, then... LOL !! LOL !!!
@5
Jan 08th, 2015 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you really believe that the continent has to accept trash of supplies bought in FI?
The same principle is applied in TdF. All the strash as a result of the electronic industrial activity, either in Rio Grande or in Ushuaia, must be processed and scrapped in the Island and cannot be transported to the Continent. This is an environmetal basic principle.
In addition, no matter that I don't agree with several decisions taken by TdF provincial government they has the right to make their own laws. This principle in granted by the National Constitution. The very same way FI Legislative has the right to decide for itself (at least based on UK Government sayings).
Most of the laws against British ships, or ships comming and going to the FI, were passed by Provincial Legislatures. They have that right and it's up to them and not related with the Federal Government decisions.
Argentina is a poor and broken country and all it does is scare away business and money instead of attracting it.
Jan 08th, 2015 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The provinces can make all the laws they like. With Argentina's democratic deficit and corruption, the politicians won't feel anything.
Another nail in Argentina's South Atlantic coffin of ambitions.
Argentine ancestors: landrobbers of the homelands of the indigenous. and the falklands? what is the difference cfk big mouth?
Jan 08th, 2015 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a report - machine translation from German into English:
”Colonial period (1516-1810)
The Spanish navigator Juan Díaz de Solís reached the first European to today's Argentina in 1516. But not until 1526-1530 explored Sebastian Cabota the Paraná River to its headwaters.
Resistance of the indigenous and partial conquest.
That this area has to offer no gold treasures, instead a defense ready for the population, had the 1600 men Pedro de Mendoza know, of which only 150 survived. So he had to give 1541 as the Het could not be forced into the colonial system and responded to attacks with fierce counterattacks the first Buenos Aires. The same happened to Spanish troops in Chile, which had 1553 Insert a heavy defeat at the Battle of Tucapel. There are many Spaniards joined the Mapuches, who formed the core of the resistance to. Preacher led the persistence of resistance back to the brutality and immorality of the conquerors. Among the strategic genius Lautaro and Caupolicán the resistance reached its peak, especially in Chile. In 1641 the colonial government admitted the Mapuches even sovereignty. Around a quarter of a million Mapuches now lives in Argentina. [1]
Argentina was colonized by the Spaniards from three directions. From Peru, they took possession of the northwest, while the Atlantic Ocean from offices were established at the current system of the Río de la Plata. Among them were Sancti Spiritu (1527) and Buenos Aires, where the Spaniards were able to establish in 1580 in the long run. From the Captaincy General of Chile, the region was colonized de Cuyo. The more southern areas were indeed claimed by Spain, but remained in effect during the colonial times outside his sphere of control. The spheres intensive settlement policy was limited in the Spanish colonial empire largely on Mexico and Peru.
gordo1.
Jan 08th, 2015 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/stranded-cargo-ship-hoegh-osaka-freed-herself-and-started-moving-1-6507918
@7 Cruise control
Jan 08th, 2015 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“principle of dying on your feet than living on your knees.”
Is Pesantar a British fishing company then?
I cannot argue that the Argentines are entitled to pass laws if they wish but if they want the Falkland Islands this action will have little effect.
However if the Argentines want to drive away trade, it's a free world and they can lose money if they want.
Argentina needs to take one of these three actions to stand a chance of them getting the Islands they crave (but on which few Argentines actually want to live).
1. Stage an illegal but successful invasion and colonise the Falklands.
2. Convince the Islanders that being Argentine is a good idea (why is this so hard I wonder?).
3. Go to the ICJ and prove for sure that Argentina actually did once, beyond any shadow of a doubt , effectively and exclusively own the Islands (good luck with that one, amigos).
Otherwise this' dying on your feet' involves 'successfully' shitspinning in the bog using two wheel drive on high revs in top gear, sinking deeper and deeper and splattering everything with mud.
Argentina is ranked down in 166 position (classed as repressed) out of 178 countries in the 2014 Index of Economic Freedoms. Another fine example of how not to run an economy.
Jan 08th, 2015 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Cruise ConTroll You really are a bitter and twisted people aren't you
Jan 08th, 2015 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Misdirection: rotting roadkill, pay your debts.
Jan 08th, 2015 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Cruisecontrol,
Jan 08th, 2015 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0-“l'd rather be dead than ask the Europeans for anything”
lf you insist,
lf its what you really want,
We can help you out there, you tiresome creature.
Then these pages would be cleansed of your incessant self-loathing & piteous comments.
Please consider,
Pillock.
@14
Jan 08th, 2015 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They're sinking fast and this story is the perfect example.
“Let's punish the Japanese for fishing in the Falklands waters by pulling the fishing license of one of our own fishing companies.”
I wonder if they realize how much damage they are doing to themselves in the eyes of the world...
#7
Jan 09th, 2015 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is not “standing up to the British”. It hasn't got the guts to do anything like that because it is a spineless Hispanic nation.
“ I agree with the principle of dying on your feet than living on your knees.”
What about standing up and acknowledging reality for once - you have no claim whatsoever on the Falklands. Just like your gutless, lying, weak-willed and ultra-corrupt mother country (Espana) has no claim over Gibraltar.
If either of you had a shred of reality about your 'claim,' you'd have the balls to go to court. But no - you'd rather continue to live in cloud-cuckoo land, in your little imaginary paradise where the world owes you a living.
So instead, the two of you go around the world, telling lies and bleating and crying like toddlers who have had a toy taken from them by a local bully.
Real nations live by the rule of law. Real nations grow up and face their responsibilities. Real nations accept the rule of law.
Spineless, lying, cheating, imperialist, colonialist, corrupt Hispanic filth, on the other hand, simply stick their fingers in their ears, stick their tongues out and pretend that they can't hear the truth. And in doing so, the joke is that you actually harm your own people.
You're funny. You really are. Everyone - every other country on Earth - simply laughs at you. And you don't even realise it.
TTT believes the Falkland Islands should remain a BOT, just to be clear. He just hates the British and all women 'no exceptions' were his words. It is not hard to work out he was rejected by a British woman and he still hasn't got over it.
Jan 09th, 2015 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If TTT want to die on his big feet in some imaginary battle we should not stand in his way.
I'm still waiting for this 'big event' that TTT promised was going to happen in Feb a few years ago.
Jan 10th, 2015 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing happened, except that Argentina ran away from the talks with the British that they had been 'demanding' and were shown to the world to be cowards and hypocrites of the highest order.
Was that the 'big event' you were referring to, Tobias? Or was it like all of you posts...pointless.
Ah yes, Argentina.
Jan 10th, 2015 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With all the excitement, l'd momentarily forgotten about the dear little creatures.
Think the trolls have gone on their hols.
Nothing much happening over the water.
Go back to sleep, Argentina.
We're still in control here.
well done.
Jan 11th, 2015 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0pesantar and pespasa must be banned, not only for fishing in the argentine waters illegally occupied by the squatters, but also for being the subsidary of nissui, the biggest whale murderers on earth.
of course the squatters have no prob with that.
they massacred 5 million penguins, they are contaminating the mar argentino with that joke of oil well and their sewage, so it is clear they give a shite about our wonderful fauna marina.
@23 paulcedron,
Jan 11th, 2015 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0-or about you, pauli-niño.
isolda, it is more than clear that you are obsessed with me.
Jan 11th, 2015 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a psychoanalyst would call it amor reprimido.
i do not have time for you right now, but be a good girl and lets see what happens in the future.
24
Jan 11th, 2015 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0forget it Isolde.
Pablo CabanaBoy only believes what he wants to believe, because he feels it justifies his hate and racial discrimination of the Islanders.
He is one of the most indoctrinated Argentines on here.
Whenever the government says “jump”, he says, “ how high?”
I feel sorry for Argentine youth today
@25 paulcedron,
Jan 11th, 2015 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You do have a very high opinion of yourself, don't you, pauli-niño?
l don't get obsessed with anything, except perhaps my country & my family.
You can put your simple mind to rest, no-one has any thoughts for you other than mild amusement of the absolute rubbish that you post.
btw-its NOT Argentina's land here & the last time l checked there was no such sea as the “mar argentino”.
Sorry to burst your balloon, but its the South Atlantic.
There's a good boy, take your pills & have a little sleep.
And stay off the paco!
isolda...isolda
Jan 11th, 2015 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it is very, very disappointing that you have learnt nothing from my lessons here.
i blame your compulsion for vodka
here we go again...
List of Seas in Atlantic Ocean
http://www.deepseawaters.com/list-of-seas-in-atlantic.htm
”The Argentine Sea lies within the continental ledge of the Argentine mainland. It is a part of Atlantic Ocean lies in the south of the Atlantic Ocean off the southeastern coast of Argentina, widening from the estimated latitude of Montevideo, Uruguay, southward to Tierra del Fuego. It is located about 500 miles (800 km) north of Antarctica.”
28 Pablo CabanaBoy
Jan 11th, 2015 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The “Argentine Sea” does not actually 'belong' to the country of Argentina.
Likewise, territories within the “Argentine Sea” do NOT belong to Aryentina either.
Argentina has signed the int'l agreement that defines territorial waters and EEZ as being no more than 200 miles off their eastern on the SA continent.
“Disputed” territories?? - sorry Malvinista, you're not allowed to claim disputed territories. The dispute must be settled first.
You are sadly deluded.
Wishful thinking on your part.
Here's a rough guideline:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_Sea
@28 paulcedron,
Jan 12th, 2015 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why didn't you say that you had translated the Argentine Sea into Spanish?
So to us, there is no “mar Argentino”, just like there is certainly no “puerto argentino”
Anyway, as you don't recognise us as a people, l feel that we should not recognise your ridiculous name for a sea.
l recommend, “The Greater Falkland Sea”
iso
Jan 12th, 2015 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0that falklandista attitude will lead you nowhere.
to discuss seriously this point, you should understand the concept of epicontinental sea and continental shelf, first.
so, read a serious book about the matter (not this 4th class newspaper) and then we can talk.
31 Pablo nino
Jan 12th, 2015 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0It matters not, that the Islands are on the Continental Shelf - that doesn't belong to you either.
The Aryentine Sea does not belong to Aryentina ( your spelling, not mine) just like India does not own the Indian Ocean, or the China Sea does not belong to the Chinese, or the Persian Gulf to the Persians.
Really, the books YOU seem to read, appear to be full of PERONIST crap!!
@32
Jan 12th, 2015 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine textbooks on history and geography are pure fairytales. Paulyboy is just a perfect example of this indoctrination.
@20. TTT is much more likely to die from crime, disease, or starvation than from some imaginary apocalyptic “battle”...
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