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Falkland Islands unveils bronze to 'hero forever' Baroness Thatcher

Sunday, January 11th 2015 - 22:26 UTC
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Describing Baroness Margaret Thatcher as a “hero forever” the Falkland Islands unveiled on Saturday a bust of the former British Prime Minister whose determination was decisive in recovering the Islands from invading and occupying Argentine forces in 1982, helping to propel the Islands to what they are now. Sir Mark Thatcher, son of the late PM was especially invited to the ceremony. Read full article

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  • paulcedron

    so, for this 4th class newspaper and for her corrupt son, the old witch protected essential freedoms.
    funny...
    now let´s see what the old witch really did:

    destroyed britain’s manufacturing industry
    massive unemployment
    interest rates of 15%
    abolished free milk for school children
    precipitated a social housing crisis still being felt today
    poll tax
    nhs privatisation
    supported dictatorships worldwide: hosni mubarak, pinochet, south african apartheid, etc.

    not a surprise she is the heroine for these ignorant bennys.

    Jan 11th, 2015 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    And the UK is still far better than Argentina

    Jan 11th, 2015 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    And she ensured that your arses got kicked - that's what really grinds isn't it?

    Argentina and SA totally humiliated by a UK force 8,000 miles from home.

    It can't be done the Argentines said
    It can't be done the US said,
    It can't be done the Russians said

    But it was done and you cry yourselves to sleep every night.

    Sweet dreams Paul, sweet dreams

    Jan 11th, 2015 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Suck on it Paul.

    Falkland Islands aren't and never will be part of Argentina. So whine all you want.

    That facts alone annoys the shit out of you.

    Jan 11th, 2015 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Her greatest achievements.

    1 Cutting the unions down to size
    2 Making Britain the financial centre of the world
    3 Handbagging the Argies

    Lol!

    There were some bad bits too, but she never dragged the UK down to the depths that your old harpy has CD2/Pauly

    Jan 11th, 2015 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    UK Bolsters Falkland Defenses to Counter Argentine Air Ambitions
    http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/americas/2015/01/11/uk-falklands-leapp-air-defense-argentinia/21497721/

    So what have the stupid Argies achieved, Nothing,
    We will now renew and upgrade, replenish and re-enforce the Falklands,

    And now they will just waste more money and look even more desperate in the eyes of there so called friends,
    .

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    6 Briton
    “The Ministry of Defence has again been forced to call for US military assistance to help track a suspected Russian submarine”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11334836/MoD-forced-to-ask-US-for-help-in-tracking-Russian-submarine.html

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 02:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    7 Marcos/Old Mike Bingham

    Marcos, OFF-TOPIC as usual.

    Do you really think your Argie “Three men in a tub” could get by the Falklands defences?

    What a joke you are - calling attention to your own military inadequacies!!

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 05:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    And yet the MoD still kicked Argentina's arse so hard that they are still bruised 33 years later.

    Thanks Marcos. You always make Argentina look so bad.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    9 Skip

    after CD2's anti-Muslim hate-rant, other posters seem to think he is actually, “Paul Nino Cedron”

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Loved Maggie
    Think the Monument could have been a bit more substantial and robust.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    “My mother would be proud to know that she stands as the Sentinel, guarding and protecting those essential freedoms that we hold to be true, self evident and enduring”.

    Should have had her statue facing west so she is looking towards argentina, that way, she can give them the big “f**k you” each and every morning with the sun rising behind her and so that the setting sun illuminates her face, just to remind argentina that they will NEVER possess the land and will NEVER be able to subjugate the people.

    11 Englander

    “Think the Monument could have been a bit more substantial and robust.”

    Don't worry matey, she is the watchkeeper now and will never fall down in the course of her duty........

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Poor Argentina, even in death this lady commands more influence and worldwide stature than any Argentine will ever achieve. Her words on the plaque will resonate with anyone wanting to colonise and impose their way of life on free people.
    I think in some way her visual and immortal presence on the Islands is a deterrent in itself. Nobody messed with this woman ever, what she says goes and it's now stamped in Bronze for anyone in any doubt.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • THEMan

    As someone born and raised in Scotland, I have to concur with the first poster, Paul. Thatcher did more harm than good to the UK, destroyed areas in Glasgow and the Central Belt that haven't recovered yet, centralised the economy with one of the most unstable sectors in the world (finance), spent hundred's of billions of pounds worth of oil revenue on dole cash rather than saving it, and lastly she was anti-Scottish and promoted the myth of the country being subsidised ironically, by London.

    All I can say is, thank god she's no longer in charge, and thank god Scotland at least has some control over its economy and public sector, which is paying huge dividends.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Paulie- as before you have not answered my reply to your on this identical topic before- WHT did the subsequent strong powered LABOUR Govt that was in power for 13 years - not undo any of those Thatcher Labour working changes - WHY?
    I will tell you why- because the Labour Govt knew she was right and they had to be done although yes it was painful at the time.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • womble

    Agree with #14. She devastated parts of the UK, and introduced the discriminatory Poll Tax . And look where de-regulating the City has got us! Financial meltdown.

    When millions are marching across the world this weekend to be supportive of Parisians, it just feels very out of touch. Harking back to bygone days, instead of looking forward.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    14 THEMan
    Maggie left Government over 20 long years ago. For 13 of those years we had a socialist Government led by two Scottish people. Could it be that Maggie has become just a convenient excuse?
    The collapse in the oil price is going to hit North Sea investment hard. Will be interesting to see how Maggie gets the blame for that also.
    My own opinion is that Brown and Bliar did far more damage to the UK than any previous Government in history.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @17
    Well said, it's become the Scottish mantra to blame Maggie for everything they don't like. They like to conveniently forget the damage Blair and Brown and spin doctor Alistair Campbell did to the economy of our country, you never hear them mention a peep about those tartan twats, it's all Maggies fault.
    Not heard a peep about “our oil” since their ludicrous referendum either, I wonder why !

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M_of_FI

    @ 1 - Paul

    I think you are missing the point. The Falkland and its people aren't commemorating Thatcher's achievements or failures for Britain, but what she did for the Falkland Islands. She sent a taskforce, against the recommendations of her advisers, to remove the aggressive Argentine forces from the Falklands and liberate the Falkland Islands people.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @1. Being a moron, you are incapable of seeing things in context. For example, your ilk are wont to rant against 'imperialist, colonialist Britain' conveniently for getting that it was imperialist, colonialist spain that put you where you are.

    But let's take a look at reality. She wanted to abolish free milk for schoolchildren but, in fact, retained it for younger children. She was faced with recovering a country after a fairly normal event. The Labour Partyt had ruined it. She increased interest rates to avoid unnecessary borrowing and inflation. She opposed the Labour-induced views of unions that they could do, and demand, what they liked. I was there. I remember the totally unnecessary miners' strikes led by Arthur Scargill. Someone who is still on massive freebies. She demanded that industries be profitable. Not a bad idea! In fact, she put Britain back at the forefront of the world. Something CFK hasn't done for argieland! And golfcronie is right. Argieland is still crap. Butg we understand why you feel bad. Your lot thought that a woman wouldn't lead her country to war. Wrong!
    @14. Aah, yes. Since you mention Glasgow, have you tried working instead of living on benefits? The subsidisation of scotland is no myth! You like to trumpet about the last 40 years. Yet England pulled you out of the mire 308 years ago. Like to tell us about the other 268 years?

    Since you now have control, I'm looking forward to you losing at least £1,863 per person per year (Barnett formula) and a requirement for scotland to actually pay for UK common facilities.
    @16. Financial meltdown, is it? And why does Germany want Frankfurt to take over. People have the mistaken impression that finance is 'volatile'. By its very nature it has to be stable.
    @17. Quite correct. I have no problem with what Blair did about Iraq. After Kuwait, it had to be done. Brown was just a nincompoop. What sort of prat would sell our entire gold stocks for a knock-down price?

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    20 genetic aberration
    you are incapable of seeing things, period.
    so spain put me where i am?
    as far as i know my ancestors came from galway, you retarded wannabe.
    it was imperialist england that put you in those islets.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • THEMan

    17) I suppose you haven't heard of the term “Red Tories”? Hint - the last socialist Lab party was nearly 40 years ago, and they weren't even proper socialists. The rest of your post is nothing more than an attempted anti-Scottish jab, so I'll just leave it there.

    18) Same as above, and your remarks are rather hypocritical. Though I'm not surprised of your attitude towards people from other countries, given what you've being saying on and off for the past couple of years. I haven't been on these pages for nearly 8 months, and it's rather sad to see all the hate and sneering imperialistic hate coming from you.

    20) All I can say to you, is that 1) You're a racist, as well as all of the above, and 2) You're talking out of your hole. Enjoy your xenophobic rants.
    Oh, and I'm at college doing engineering whilst working full time, so that kinda flies in your pit a little.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 14 THEMan: @ 16 womble

    Well, we have TWO mealy-mouthed, feeble minded, numbnuts for the price of nothing today. You are not even WORTH a reply as far as The Blessed Margaret is concerned.

    As for The Cunt Brown © Jeremy Clarkson 2010 (TCB), he did far more damage selling the gold than is generally known. I was dealing in gold at the time to bolster my investments; I knew a man who had VERY BIG HOLDINGS in gold, he had dealt in the metal for years but two years previously sold his major car rental company which he owned outright and put it into gold.

    When TCB decided the pound didn’t need the additional safety net of gold as he put it, though in reality he was running out of money [the stupid Labour bastards have never heard of budgeting], HE ANNOUNCED HE WAS ‘MINDFUL’ of conducting a number of sales.

    My friend, along with many, many others got out of gold IMMEDIATELY. The price was on its way down as soon as the market woke up to what was going on and only a week or so later my friend put all his money back into gold. HE MADE 12 MILLION on it: yes, his original investment PLUS 12 million on top. He’s the only friend TCB has got.

    Yes, TCB was surely a ‘canny’ Scot. Ha, ha, ha. Just like the bunch of twats they now have up there.

    @ 22 THEMan
    “ I'm at college doing engineering whilst working full time,”

    I should give work up, go to university, do a BSc, a Masters, get 4 or 5 years hands on experience in proper engineering and then apply to one of the Engineering Institutes to become a professional engineer as me. THEN you will be an engineer, anything less is a mechanic, a fitter, a welder or if you really insist a ‘Technician’. DON’T call yourself an engineer when you are not Registered as such.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @21. Aha! A paddy traitor. Still, I can understand. Paddys have always been thick. Here in England we used to use them like draught animals. 'Dig that canal'. 'Lay that railway track'. 'This is a road, thicko'. Fed 'em on beef, beer and bread. Maybe it was beef, eh? Beer's easy. Piss in the barrel. Micks won't know the difference. Bread? What a good idea. The granite chips from the millstones should remove their teeth. How we miss the Irish. At least we kept the intelligent ones. Down in the republic, the Irish are regressing. Are you ahead?
    @22. Along with 'engineering' (bang this bolt, screw, rivet in this hole), do they try to teach you the primary knowledge of the British Isles? It's ENGLISH. Which should tell you something. Xenophobia is a trait applicable to humans. Where do you fit in? Looking back over history, recorded by the Romans as well as we English, we can see barbaric, crazed, painted, hominids coming over the border. Nothing much has changed. 308 years ago England hauled the barbarians out of the mire. Who knows why? They were given money. Never repaid. Just forty years ago they finally started to pay their way. Even so, they still wanted subsidies. When will you learn? You owe for the original investment. Wth nominal interest, it's now over £2 trillion. You owe for 268 years. You owe for defence. You owe for health. You owe for civilisation. When will you be paying? What about the subsidies you still get? The welfare benefits WE still pay for. PAY for everything WE have to. Give us OUR money back. And who's paying for your engineering training? US again, I expect. I do wish you'd got your 'independence'. I would have been demanding that you were totally cut off and got NOTHING. Give you OUR assets? NEVER. WE should have told YOU that we would destroy you first. I used to accept the scotch as fellow-Brits. No longer. The terrorists and traitors from the north. There aren't any races in scotchland! Although you might try the 'leap' to Stroma!

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @14 & @17

    I don't agree with either of your posts.

    Maggie was the best thing that happened to the UK. Most people conveniently forget that when she came to power in 1979 the UK was on the verge of bankruptcy. That isn't an exaggeration either.

    And what do you think the consequences of the UK going bankrupt would've been? Mass unemployment.

    So yes, when she came to power she had to make big cuts in spending, and thus people ended up losing their jobs. It was regrettable, but better to sacrifice some than to do nothing and everyone losing their jobs (because that's what happens when a country goes bankrupt, no more money to pay public sector workers, no money for the NHS, no money for defence, no money for schools etc...).

    And the greatest thing she did wasn't to liberate the Falkland Islands (which is certainly up there) but to liberate the United Kingdom from the grip of unelected union officials who believed THEY had the right to dictate how the country should be run.

    Many of these union leaders destroyed the industries which they purported to represent by asking for ludicrous 3 day working weeks for more money, and so on and so forth. These industries, especially coal and steel, couldn't hope to compete with foreign industries which were selling coal and steel far cheaper.

    So why should the UK taxpayer shore up unprofitable (self made unprofitable at that) industries when the money could be better spent elsewhere?

    So instead of dissing Maggie you should be thanking her for saving the UK and saving the jobs and livelihoods of millions of people, and preventing the UK from becoming a 3rd world joke, broke with no future.

    And the next lot of socialists who got into power almost took us to the brink of bankruptcy again! Yes the banking crises was some of the problem, but if the UK had been in the black (like we were before Tony became PM), we'd've been in a better position to weather the storm. But we were way, way in the red thanks to Tony and Gordon.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    To the little chippy sensitive man claiming to be Scottish.

    Nah most Scottish people are better than that. They wouldn't be on their knees bemoaning their bad luck 20 years ago, blaming others and begging for a handout. They would have got up, found another job and made something of their lives. You must be something else pretending to be Scottish. There's a lot of it about on here.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    SHE DOESN'T DESERVE YOUR TEARS.
    The bust is very nice, in fact thatcher was a very beautiful woman, but i think that somebody like her doesn't deserve not even people's tears.
    Only a despisable human being would eliminate the cup of milk for children, or would implement a neoliberal model which although it diminished inflation level, it provoked high levels of unemployment, beside only a horrible person would use a war, in order to save such a misserable and unpopular government.
    I respect the islanders if they decided to forgive thatcher for sending nicholas redlay to the islands and to buenos aires in 1980, with the purpose of finding a solution for this conflict, it's evident that in that moment she didn't care the fact that arg. was ruled by a criminal dictatorship.
    On the other hand, i respect also if they forgave thatcher for ignoring the warns about the danger of cutting the defence for the south atlantic in 1980, but i my opinion i think that they haven't realized yet that she used them, as the dictatorship did, for saving their political ambitions.
    For many years i thought that the militars took the islands in 1982, because they wanted to save the government from collapse, however with the passage of time, and after having investigated so much about it, i realized that there was another much more important reason than the permanence of a fascist government in office. With or without the war of 1982, the dictatorship wouldn't have lasted for much more time, due to the social and economic context was deplorable, in fact, a few days before the 2nd of april, there was a huge strike against the government in plaza de mayo, who claimed for more work, because the industrial sector was desmantled.
    However, the militars needed a great achievement, like the recovery of the islands, because they wanted to push future democratic governments to avoid any investigation about the violations to human rights that they had committed.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    Fact is , Argentina needs a Maggie .
    Menem had a try at sorting the place out , but it's impossible to wean the country off Peronism after 70 years .
    Had it not been for Maggie , Argentina could have got Ramon Camps , Massera , Hargindegui or Iberico Saint Jean as president , all of whom were real animals .
    All of them would have declared war on Chile and possibly Bolivia and plunged the whole of the region into a massive conflict , with thousands of dead .
    There should be a statue to her in every plaza in Argentina .

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DerkeBlake

    @27 axel arg

    “With or without the war of 1982, the dictatorship wouldn't have lasted for much more time”

    At the risk of being repetitive, that is wishful, crystal-ball thinking at best.

    Since the military launched its first coup ever in 1930, for over 50 years, up until the Falklands war, only ONE freely elected Argentine government had completed its term (and that single one was lead by Juan Peron; enough said). Yet for 30 continuous years, ever since the Falklands war, the elections have been (relatively) democratic.

    Do you actually think that is just a coincidence? Seems to me that every true Argentine democratic owes Thatcher a debt of gratitude.

    @28 Usurping Pirate - Well said; very true.

    Derke

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    USURPING PIRATE. DERKEBLAKE.
    Sorry guys, but your ignorant lectures don't sorprise me in absolute, if you want to adjudge thatcher the recovery of democracy in argentina, it's your problem.
    On the other hand, if we have to thank thatcher for the recovery of our democracy, then she had to thank a criminal like galtiery for having given her a greta hand, after the junta decided to invade the islands, because i don't think that without the victory of 1982, she would have been relected in 1983.
    Anyway, if you are happy believing that we should thank thatcher, i respect it, but you'll have to realize someday that reality is actualy much more complicated than that kind of ignorant comments.
    The neoliberal model implemented by the dictatorship in 1976, dismantled industrial sectors, and it started to provoke much more unemployment and poverty. Before 1975, poverty and unemployement in the country were too law, in fact, they almost weren't a problem, even despite all the militar coup d'etats that we had since 1930 untill 1976. However the policies of those criminals increased a lot those levels. For all these reasons, and for everything i said in my comment 27, i think that with or without the war of 1982, the dictatorship wouldn't have lasted for much more time.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    29
    what can you know about what happened in argentina in 1981/82/83?
    nothing?
    axel is right.
    the dictatorship was in total decline when videla was replaced in march 1981.
    the rest, during the rule of viola and galtieri, were only manotazos de ahogado, and the biggest and saddest one was the war.

    the only thing thatcher did was to give more time in office to those bastards.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Burp....
    Apparently CFK is very up set abt the statue, it should have been her, she cries,

    Apparently the Argentina ambassador to London was so upset, she suggested jumping from big ben, but could not face all those stairs,

    Apparently Argentina is very upset, and some bloggers have threatened to commit hari-kari,

    Apparently thus,, ,none of them will do anything as they have no wish to give their lives for a lie,

    So they say. yawn.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DerkeBlake

    Dear Axel & Paul,

    My relative paragraph is irrevocably, 100% factual.
    Both of yours are agenda-convenient, hindsight, might-have-been, ambiguous speculation.
    It is risible to even make an attempt to contrast the two.

    PS You just might be surprised about what exactly I know of Argentina in the 70's & 80's.

    Cheers,
    Derke

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    27 axel arg

    “beside only a horrible person would use a war, in order to save such a misserable and unpopular government”

    What?? You mean like General Leopoldo Galtieri did?

    You MUST know him. He was part of a military Junta in Argentina that NO ONE supported ( apart from the 100,000 's who gathered in Plaza de Mayo to celebrate the invasion of the Falklands ).

    There was Leopoldo Galtieri, Brigadier Basilio Lami Dozo ( Head of the army ) and Admiral Jorge Anaya ( Head of the navy ).

    All of them gambled on War to save their government and to keep their sorry asses in power.

    Oh yes, and for once, you are right:-

    “only a horrible person would use a war, in order to save such a misserable and unpopular government”

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Axel

    As ever you are spouting absolute rubbish.

    The school milk was a joke, I remember it as a child, 1/3 of a pint that was neither necessary or particularly welcome. It was a throw back to when there was true malnourishment of children, which was eliminated in the Uk way before 1980.

    Secondly, you imbecile, the Neo-liberal model as you call it saved Britains skin. The Labour governments of the 1960s-1970s nearly destroyed the British economy..in the same way that the socialist Kirchnerites are destroying Argentinas .

    The UK would never have voted for Foot in 1983, it very rarely votes for the worst option....look at 1992...Kinnock miles ahead in the polls, destroyed on polling day.

    If you believe Thatcher went to war to save her government then you are welcome to your (as ever) too partial lectures. Thatcher went to war to make damn sure, that it was clear...YOU DO NOT INVADE BRITAIN.

    So axel, pretty much everything you said was rubbish, as usual. Thatchers policies were essential after the horrific Wilson/Callaghan governments (look up winter of discontent, 3 day week, general strike). Wilson closed more mines and put more miners out of work than Thatcher.

    Thatcher went to war because you (and morons like you) wanted to Steal from UK citizens, steal their homes, their islands, their livelihood. What is sickening Axel is that you still think you have a “right” based on fairy tales from 1832....Grow UP you imbecile.

    I note the reappearance of “sheMan” on these boards, who was claiming a landslide in the Scottish referendum before the vote....idiot should've asked the English....we'd have been pissing ourselves watching Salmond trying to balance the books at $50 per barrel.. Can we vote now...might have guessed he was a “student”....when he's actually paid into society maybe his opinion might be worth something.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Axel, Don't for get the Belgrano...
    I think she said “Sink It”

    Axel, Remember you telling me inflation wasn't a problem because your salary keeps going up. Remember me telling you that wouldn't last for very much longer.
    And you arguing like an idiot
    Remember?
    Do you want to apologize to me?

    Stupid Rgs never learn

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Axel- Pure Argie fantasy that Prime Minister Thatcher took advantage of your Invasion! She responded as a British Priminister does when British territory and British people are forcefully invaded and taken over against their wishes by a foreign power.
    She correctly took the advise of her Chiefs of Staff - and booted your lot out.
    She did it because it was the correct thing to do - NOT because it would win her an election! That was a byproduct - nothing more and nothing less.
    Argentina caused the whole thing - Argentina still suffers because it is unable and incompetent to admit it was wrong - grow up - and move on.

    Yes you are correct - she was cutting budgets across the board- including defence - she had to. And yes, quite likely that had your dictators waited another 12-18 months we could have quietly fell into your hands like a rotten apple.
    Served 30 million dumbass Argentines right for not waiting!

    Now you have had it and lost any chance of taking the islands.
    100% - YOUR FAULT.

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Who'd have thought that Maggie's statue would flush all the RG Trolls out in force?
    Quite stirred up, too.
    We must do this more often. lol!

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 38 lsolde
    “We must do this more often. lol!”

    Great suggestion, but WHO or WHAT for the subject?

    Perhaps we can run a competition! My suggestion would be a poster of a Ghurkha sharpening his kukri with a warning “Watch out we are coming for you!”; you know how the argies love them!!!

    :o)

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    Axel : Were you even born in 1982 ?
    If the invasion had suceeded , the military would have bought themselves at least another 10 years in power .
    The popular unrest would have been the excuse the hardliners were looking for to create a second larger wave of desaparecidos , and as I say , one of them would have made a pitch for the presidency and got it .
    You thought Videla was bad ? He was an angel compared to Suarez Mason ..
    The rest of Argentina would have looked saying “ Well , it can't be that bad , they did get the Malvinas back , after all ”.
    As for “The neoliberal model implemented by the dictatorship in 1976, dismantled industrial sectors, and it started to provoke much more unemployment and poverty. Before 1975, poverty and unemployement in the country were too law, in fact, they almost weren't a problem”
    This is total bollocks .
    Inflation in 1975 reached 300% , there were strikes everywhere and shortages of basic goods on a daily basis .
    Not to mention bombs , kidnappings and armed robberies on an hourly basis .
    Under the military , borrowing and spending on everything got out of hand after after a short period of monetarism in 1976-79 to impress international banks : “ la epoca de la plata dulce ” .
    Martinez de Hoz resigned as minister of the economy because he could not control their spending after 1979 .
    You want to talk about job losses : How many jobs have been lost in agriculture since Menem/DLR /K's have pushed for a soja based economy ?
    Under the K's entire industries such as the toy industry , textiles , rail manufacturing , heavy plant and ship building have closed down to suit the Chinese .
    Decada ganada ?
    Argentina cannot blame Thatcher for it's failings .It's f*cked itself up .

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Axels only aim was to throw mud to the wind, and see what comes back,

    tis better that one ignores axel, and lets the poor chap talk to the mirror instead.

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @30

    “USURPING PIRATE. DERKEBLAKE.”

    Axel, as your accusations of 'Usurpation' generally date from 1833, perhaps Derkeblake could tell us how old he was when he served on HMS Clio or HMS Tyne in 1833, and as generally only trees, Giant Tortoises and Whales live to the 200 year mark, will he be so kind as to inform us when he receives a second centenary telegram from whoever is the monarch (hopefully the current one) when he is 200?

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  • paulcedron

    28
    fact is the guerra de malvinas hastened the fall of the regime, but the proceso de reorganización was in total decline since 1981.
    there wasn't any possibility that they could have expanded their power beyond 1983, even if argentina would have won the war.

    there were a lot of internal problems in the army and between the three forces.
    there is nothing to thank to the old bitch, whose main feature was supporting dictatorships worldwide.

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    43 Pablo CabanaBoy

    Still supporting the Peronists, I see.

    You're just unhappy she didn't support YOUR Dictstorship in 1982

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  • THEMan

    @25 - LEPRecon, good to hear from you again, been a good while. Only non-xenophobic, non anti-Scottish Englishman I've seen here so far. Anyway..

    In response to your point about the industries rightfully being shut down, the one thing I should point out is that she didn't even bother to consider modernising them. The problem was that they were using equipment that wasn't fit for puropse, using business and labour models that weren't fit for purpose, and this along with the problem of the Unions, made the costs go up. Her response was short-sighted and poorly planned, as we can see today. No recovery in many of the areas that relied on these the most, and an unemployment rate of over 12%.

    Never mind her blatant look-down attitude towards Scotland and its people, her entire economic model of continuing the centralisation of the UK economy to London, has been nothing short of a disaster for the rest, an continues to this day under Cameron (they have been right wing since 1997).

    The simple fact is, I'd completely agree with you if Thatcher did save us from being a “3rd world joke and broke with no future”..... but she hasn't.

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  • LEPRecon

    @45 THEMan

    Firstly it wasn't cost effective to 'modernise' these industries due to the fact that the unions had already destroyed them, and their customer base. No point having modern equipment if no one wants to buy your product.

    Basically it would've been just throwing good money after bad. There was NO WAY the UK could compete with emerging markets like India and South America, who had a very low paid workforce, that didn't have unions, and that didn't go on strike...ever.

    So if you are a customer and you can either buy 1 tonne of steel for $50 or 1 tonne of steel for $20, which would you buy? It doesn't take an economist to work that one out.

    By the time Maggie came to power both coal and steel had been priced out of the market for more than a decade.

    And as I said, the UK was teetering on the brink of bankruptcy at the time, there wasn't the money to be able to modernise, or to wait and try and break back into those markets that had already been lost. Face it, the unions blew it in the 60's & 70's and destroyed the UK's manufacturing base, ensuring that British companies either closed completely or left the UK to set up overseas.

    As for her attitude to Scotland it wasn't bad, no worse than any other part of the UK. Perhaps you should've occasionally pulled your head up out of the sand and took a good look at what was happening elsewhere in the UK instead of being just focussed on what was happening to you. In most cases Scotland was actually better off than many places in England and Wales.

    The centralisation of the UK economy towards London has been in place since 1707 when the Scottish government (who'd just bankrupted Scotland) voted (democratically) to join with England, Wales and Ireland. It was Scotland's decision to unite the government and economies NOT Margaret Thatchers.

    As for Labour being right wing? No way, they are socialists who buy votes and spend money that isn't theirs, whilst feathering their own nests. That's ALL socialists EVER do.

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  • Usurping Pirate

    @43 : If the 1982 invasion had suceeded , the approval rate for the military government would have gone sky high .
    One of the hardliners would have taken over , you would have seen a second, violent round of desaparecidos ( allowed by an indifferent public , like the first round ) and success having gone to their heads , they would have launched Operacion Soberania in the summer of 1982/83 against Chile . Bolivia would have piled in against Chile , assuming Argentina wasn't trying to “ recover ” yet more lost territory there too .
    Result : Huge regional conflict , thousands of dead , lasting bitterness .
    Good thing the Junta got their arses kicked , as none of this happened .
    PS You cannot blame Thatcher for arming the dictatorship .
    The Argentine armed forces were armed with a mix of Israeli , West German , French , American, Spanish and British kit . The 25 de Mayo , though British was bought from the Dutch .
    During the war they bought stuff from Libya , were given old useless Mirages by Peru and tried to buy weapons from the Soviets direct .
    Don't rely on information from biased historians and political analysts , ask people who were around at the time .
    Some of the old boys in Marcos Paz will give interviews , you could learn a lot from them .

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  • paulcedron

    47
    you are mixing things without any criteria.
    the conflict with chile was solved by juan pablo II, there is no way that the dictatorship or any other argentine government would have not respected that decision.

    now, what 2nd round of desaparecidos are you talking about?
    who would have been them?
    firmenich?
    vaca narvaja?
    perdía?
    the montoneros who made a pact with massera?

    the resurgence of political parties was at its peak in 1981/ 1982 with the multipartidaria, the economy was a complete disaster with increased public spending, inflation and destroyed manufacturing industry, and the junta was under huge pressure by the cidh, the oea and the government of carter since 1979.

    there is no way they had remained in office

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @48 Paul

    Well I don't possible know how you could've come to THAT conclusion considering that the treaty between Argentina and Chile wasn't signed until 1984.

    Now I know you Argentines sometimes have difficulty with figures (hence why your government can steal so much from you with impunity), but 1982 comes before 1984, and if Argentina 'had' won the Falklands War, then yes (and members of the Junta have admitted this) then they would've invaded Chile next. All to keep the brainwashed masses compliant. It worked for a short while with the Falklands (all those people who didn't support the government suddenly calling them saints), and it would've worked if they'd've invaded Chile too. Because, of course, you teach your children about how all nations have stolen land from Argentina, when the truth is the opposite. It is Argentina that is the thief.

    Psst! Paul. 1690 also comes before 1833. 1690 is of course when the British - the 1st nation on Earth - claimed sovereignty over the Falklands. That is why you Argentines would NEVER go to the ICJ because you know you would be laughed out of court.

    So you should be thanking and honouring Margaret Thatcher in Argentina because by her actions in standing up to your murderous government in 1982, she ensured that Argentina was freed from dictatorship, although looking at the current bunch you have in power who knows for how long that will be?

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    40 LEPR
    Just give it a few more years, “Aryentinians” like Pablo 'CabanaBoy' Cedron will be screaming about the Chinese having ripped them off and plunged them into indebtedness, requiring them to surrender the rights to their own resources.

    Meanwhile, CFK in retirement will have suitcases of loot under her bed in Miami.

    For now, Pablo is happy to play along with the government line that the British have 'stolen' the Malvinas and the 'vultures' wish to destroy Aryentina.

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    LE boludo
    “Well I don't possible know how you could've come to THAT conclusion considering that the treaty between Argentina and Chile wasn't signed until 1984.”

    and what has that got to do with the operación soberanía?
    one thing was the risk of armed conflict and another the negotiation.
    let´s see if your tiny little brain can understand it:

    operación soberanía - proceso de reorganización
    tratado argentina/ chile - gobierno de alfonsín
    two different solutions during two different periods of history about the same problem.

    maybe you thought that alfonsin´s government was going to declare war to chile because of the tratado de beagle?
    even though chile was ruled by one of the worst dictators of the world and a good friend of thatcher, there was not risk of war in 1984.

    so, all of you do yourselves a favour and do not opine about things you:
    1. do not understand.
    2. do not have the slightest idea.
    3. have never read a serious book about the matter, all the “information” you have is this 4th class newspaper and penguin news.

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @51 Paul

    Serious backtracking by you now.

    You stated in your previous post that the situation was resolved by the Pope at the time. Yes that is correct BUT you inferred that his solution would've been accepted by the Junta (which is something you can't possible know for sure), yet members of the Junta have stated that once they had the Falklands they would have invaded Chile, thus starting a war.

    And once your murderous military Junta had got land they wouldn't give it back - point in case when they refused a binding UN Security Council order to get the hell off of the Falkland Islands - which lead to a war.

    So the evidence seems to state that Argentina, if they had won the Falklands, would have invaded Chile, and given Argentina's stance at the time, it is unlikely that they would've voluntarily surrendered that land back to the rightful owners.

    Your 20-20 hindsight is just that. Yes the Pope brokered a peace deal but ONLY after Argentina had had its arse kicked by the British.

    So I stand by what I said.

    Oh, and it's you that doesn't have the slightest idea, because unlike you I read a wide variety of sources, both for and against the British, Argentine and Chilean position, but because I have a mind of my own, I am able to make my own decisions. Unlike you who has to wait for the latest info released by your La Campora masters before you opine THEIR opinion.

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  • Monkeymagic

    @46

    100% agree.

    SheMan is utterly clueless.

    Firstly the UK isn't centralised around London, and certainly the myth that only London supports the Tories is crap.

    London actually has more Labour MPs, but vast swathes of the UK vote Conservative, the majority of England from Cornwall to Cumbria...hardly London centric at all....that's why they win elections, despite needing 5-10% more share of the vote than Labour after the blatant Blair gerrymandering.

    But it doesn't suit Shemans myth.

    1.6m voted for Scottish Independence....less than 5% of the UK electorate. If anyone has been over represented, had their views over compensated, been over pandered to, it is the Scot Nats....heaven help us if that crew have the balance of power after the next election...I'd rather UKIP and that's saying something.

    SheMan is a typical socialist...it's always someone else's fault.

    God I wish Scotland had got Independance....with oil at $50 it would have been hilarious.

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    53 monkeybrain
    you should be more grateful with the scottish, you reverendo boludo.
    in the end, they are the ones who are paying your bills in the islets.
    so pray that oil price do not drop more.

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    54
    you guys should stop living in the past,

    as for Scotland,
    the electorate has spoken, so leave it in the past.

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Paulcondom

    Perhaps, just once you should try and write something that does not make you look like a twat....

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 06:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • THEMan

    @56) Hate to but in, but does the term “pot meets kettle” ring any bells?

    “SheMan is utterly clueless.

    Firstly the UK isn't centralised around London,”

    I can only shake my head in disbelief as to how you managed to survive past puberty with this level of stupidity. Your nick certainly is an effective description...

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @57 THEMan

    You call other people stupid yet it is you that refuses to face up to the FACT that the United Kingdom was Scotlands idea, not Englands, not Wales, not Irelands.

    Yet all you do is come on here and complain about how bad 'you' have it, when Scotland is far better off than areas of England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

    It's all about yourself.

    As for the London being the centre of the UK, I do agree with that. But it was the Scottish that made it so, not the English, Welsh or Irish. So you were hoist by your own petard, and now all you do is constantly cry about it and try to blame others.

    Scotland is NOT the victim. You, personally, make the Scottish look like the Argentines, constantly bleating on about something that happened hundreds of years ago, but was all your fault, but are desperately trying to blame others for it.

    I have many Scottish friends, and you are atypical Scottish (although probably typical Scottish Nationalist).

    You and your nationalist 'buddies' must be breathing a sigh of relief that the majority of Scottish people didn't fall for the SNP fairytale promises, all of which hung on oil. Because if you had you'd be bankrupt by now, and no doubt 'blaming' the English for 'tricking' you to go for independence. People like you never accept responsibility for anything. It's pathetic.

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • THEMan

    @58) “You call other people stupid yet it is you that refuses to face up to the FACT that the United Kingdom was Scotlands idea, not Englands, not Wales, not Irelands” - If I were you, I'd check up on the creation of the UK (which didn't include Ireland.... who aren't in it anymore...)

    “Yet all you do is come on here and complain about how bad 'you' have it, when Scotland is far better off than areas of England, Wales and Northern Ireland.” Didn't say we were the worst off, clearly stating that Thatcher ruined disproportionately, communities across the North of England and Scotland.

    “It's all about yourself” - Irrelevant to what we've been talking about, but if you were talking about independence...

    “As for the London being the centre of the UK, I do agree with that. But it was the Scottish that made it so, not the English, Welsh or Irish. So you were hoist by your own petard, and now all you do is constantly cry about it and try to blame others.” - Do you think all Muslims are terrorists, based on the actions of a few??? The common sense answer would be no...

    “Scotland is NOT the victim. You, personally, make the Scottish look like the Argentines, constantly bleating on about something that happened hundreds of years ago, but was all your fault, but are desperately trying to blame others for it.” Now you're just on a rant and talking out your hole, given you were the one that mentioned the formation of the UK...

    ”I have many Scottish friends, and you are atypical Scottish (although probably typical Scottish Nationalist)“ Coming from someone who fits the bill of the English nationalist stereoytype - a sneering imperialist who generalises entire country populations.

    ”all of which hung on oil“ - no it didn't. Our economy would still be 99% the size of it currently, without oil. As shown several times, it is a bonus to have oil.

    ” and no doubt 'blaming' the English for 'tricking' you to go for independence” - and childish remark of the day goes to...

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  • lsolde

    Keep fighting boys,
    lts entertaining.
    lol!

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @59 - THEMan

    The Kingdom of Ireland became part of the UK in 1800 - but since the UK was ALL Scotland's idea - then I stand by my statement which is entirely valid.

    As for your second paragraph - I stand by that. In your previous posts you certainly inferred that YOU believed that only Scotland was affected by the cuts that HAD to be made by the Conservative government that came into power in 1979.

    Your third paragraph. I was talking about YOU personally - not all Scottish people, which I had made clear in previous posts. It's all about YOUR perceptions of persecution by the English that colours your views.

    Your forth paragraph. I really stand by that. You should go back and reread your previous posts where you are b!tching on about how Scotland was the victim of Margaret Thatcher, the English etc... It is you that rants about it.

    Psst! I'm not and English nationalist. I am British, and a patriot. A patriot is the complete opposite of a nationalist, because a patriot will defend his country and countrymen REGARDLESS of their beliefs, where a nationalist is the 1st to point a finger at his countryman and brand him a traitor for not believing the same thing as he does. That really does describe you, doesn't it?

    Yes the SNPs 'vision' for Scotland hung 100% on oil, because it was going to pay for everything. I read the SNP's fairytale manifesto, and even if they did get ALL of the North Sea oil, and oil was still selling at $100 per barrel, the SNP couldn't've hoped to fulfil all of it's promises. We also remember how the SNP were going to 'kick out' companies who said that independence was a bad idea, despite the effect it would've had on the economy. That is what nationalists do. Persecute their own people for not believing in the same things as they do.

    Actually, I believe that you, as a nationalist would certainly have said that given the tone of your posts in the past. So it wasn't childish, it's very probably what YOU would've said.

    Nationalists = Nazis.

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Keep fighting boys,
    lts entertaining.
    lol!

    I will 2nd that.

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @60 & @ 62

    Isolde & Briton

    I'm not fighting. I'm trying to educate, but you can lead a nationalist to the truth and all they'll do is bury their heads further into the sand.

    Besides it's fun baiting him. :D

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Well,
    we are British and have been for over 300 years..

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy35

    Very nice statue, and good words under it.

    I think she would have been very proud.

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @63 LEPRecon,
    You make some very good points. Can't argue with them.
    l believe that Scotland was bankrupt because they spent all their money trying to establish a colony in Panama.
    Already claimed & settled by Spain.
    Didn't they think that the Spanish would object?

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @66 Isolde

    Who knows what was going through their minds at the time, but to literally gamble the whole of Scotland's future on 1 venture seems insane to me, especially if there was another country already claiming the land that you aspired to.

    Unlike England, Scotland at that time didn't have a large Navy, so they would've been ill prepared to fight back against the Spanish, thus everything was lost.

    It's also interesting to note that the Scottish Parliament tried for a Union between Scotland, England and Wales several times, and each time it was defeated by the English Parliament who didn't want the Union.

    But after Scotland was teetering on the brink of disaster it made sense to amalgamate both Parliaments, and London, which was already one of the biggest cities on Earth, a large trading hub, and a lot closer to the continent than Edinburgh was a natural choice to host that Parliament.

    Many Scottish nationalists conveniently forget that the Scottish Parliament quite willingly voted away Scotland's independence and agreed to London being the Capital of the United Kingdom. And Capital cities are usually where a nations government resides and where their economic hub is.

    Something THEMan appears not to understand.

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    iso
    scotland is paying the expenses of england and their colonies since they have discovered oil in their territory.
    it is just a shame they could not get rid of those parasites.

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @67 LEPRecon,
    Some Scots do have an inbuilt grievance against English people.
    ln my travels l met a Scots lady(just after the Scottish referendum)& we were discussing the ref & l remarked that l had thought that Scotland was going to vote for independence.
    She was most agitated & remarked, her words, “its not over yet” & it was already over.
    She couldn't accept that Scotland would stay in the UK & it was ALL England's fault.
    l didn't argue. No point, her mind was already made up.
    l met an Aussie of Scottish descent who had a very hazy grasp of history.
    He was quite convinced that the English were evil & ALWAYS invaded Scotland.
    When l pointed out to him that Scotland has often invaded or raided England in the past, firstly he was astounded, then he didn't believe it.
    l recommended that he read history books & left him to his own thoughts.
    Then of course, l have met Scottish people who were British first & Scottish 2nd.
    Two lovely old ladies on a tea estate in Assam, lndia for example.

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    68@
    on here, Scotland is paying your price of lip service,
    stay with Argentina they are more in demand of your services.

    Scotland, SNP says it all,
    stay with what you know, rather the devil in Brussels..

    British is best for all of us.
    just saying like.

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Poor Sheman utterly clueless

    london is 20% of the Uk population, it has its fair share of focus and no more.

    I live 150 miles from London, and have never once felt the inferiority complex that you so clearly feel. Oh and by the way, the area i live in is both one of the most prosperous and wealthy areas of the country...amazing given its distance from your made up “centre”.

    your stupidity is clear that you haven't passed puberty and are still a “student”, a little like Neil or Rik from “the Young ones” if only you were old enough to remember.

    Come back when you are grown up....

    People are poor because they vote labour/Socialist, NOT people vote Labour/Socialism because they are poor.

    Jan 15th, 2015 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Just saw this on twitter, and the guy swears it isn't photoshopped - the “Las Malvinas son Argentinas” combo meal.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7VxMyNCUAAX80c.jpg

    Jan 15th, 2015 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    leprecon

    Unfortunately Sheman will not listen to logic...he is both a Socialist and a Scottish nationalist.

    Like many of our malvinista friends he has to have an enemy to blame his (quite extensive) inadequacies on.

    In this instance he wants to blame the reason why there are large areas of Scotland that are extremely poor on Margaret Thatcher...he and his Socialist pals have invented a bogeyman (or in this case a woman) to blame their inadequacies on.

    According to them, Margaret Thatcher took massively profitable, competitive, non-striking, wonderful Scottish industries and shut them down out of spite, and at no time in the past 30 years has anyone given them the chance (it has been deliberatel withhel by “London”) to rebuild.

    The truth of course is less paletable to Sheman and his Socialist ilk.

    The lazy and feckless Socialists and their trade Union buddies went on strike anfter strike whilst their buddy Harold Wilson was in government, any whim, any grievance no matter how ridiculous and it was “out comrades”....

    This made traditional Scottish industries uncompetitive, overtime culture, laziness, poor productivity and strike after strike happy clapped by their buddies in Westminster..

    National strikes, 3-Day week, winter of discontent...the total annihilation of British Industry in the 1970s.

    But ofcourse Shemale hates this truth, he hates that it was cheaper to buy from abroad than from his parasitic, militant chums.

    That was 1979 when MT was elected....by 1992 Britain was back in profit, the standard of living had improved across the UK, but sadly the parasitic militancy of the 1970s was gone (the good old days as Shemale remembers)

    He is right with the exception of Brown we've avoided Socialism for 35 years...Brown was UNELECTED.

    And in those 35 years when was the biggest crash, the highest borrowing, the worst deficits....yep SOCIALIST times.

    I WISH SCOTLAND HAD INDEPENDANCE..would have been hilarious

    Jan 15th, 2015 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @72 Hans

    Maximo looks great on those cups.

    Jan 15th, 2015 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 73 Monkeymagic

    Spot on!

    A friend of mine owned a specialist high end steel alloy casting company situated in Glasgow, inherited from his father and he refurbished it with the latest casting technology, which also meant fewer boneheads were needed.

    He kept the 'best' he thought and paid them commensurate with the industry standard for the upmarket products he now produced: it was quite a rise that they all had at the time.

    Within six months his ‘best’ turned back to the union over some perceived slight and went on strike. Within two years he had sold it to a multinational that just wanted the market share and they closed it down.

    The deadheads got exactly what they deserved.

    Jan 15th, 2015 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    monkeybrain
    “This made traditional Scottish industries uncompetitive, overtime culture, laziness, poor productivity...blabla.”

    that's very rich coming from an uncompetitive & lazy english wannabe from the islets.
    now, talking about productivity, what the fuck do you produce there?
    guano?

    Jan 15th, 2015 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @76 Pablo - the “Chinese Comfort Boy”

    Pablo, why do you speak like that?

    Certainly, the Islands are doing far better than “Aryentina”

    Full employment
    High Standard of living
    Excellent education

    EXCELLENT ECONOMY

    That makes them BETTER THAN ARYENTINA (your spelling, remember?)

    ARYENTINA - PAY YOUR DEBTS!!!!

    LOL ”Comfort Boy Pablo!!!

    Jan 16th, 2015 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @77 Troy

    You answered your own question in your post. He speaks like that because the Islands are doing far, far, far, far, far better than Argentina could ever hope to do.

    He is jealous, he is impotent, he has no future and he knows it. And so his jealousy turns to bitterness and hatred of the world for having 'it in for him'.

    Jan 16th, 2015 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    78 LEPR.

    Pablo is a Troll.

    He's also a very LAZY Troll.

    He makes very quick sweeping offensive comments, and then leaves.

    Minimum effort required.

    Probably like his life - a bitter feeling of unfulfilled entitlement.

    He said at first that he was studying architecture - making it sound like he was a University student.
    Now he tells us he is working in an office cube farm somewhere, “advising” British Engineers, or some nonsense.

    It all sounds like mere puffery - he wants to sound more important than he is.

    It's clear however, that he doesn't earn much, if anything, and is still living with his parents.

    No future for him with the way his beloved “Aryentina” is going.

    Jan 16th, 2015 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    76 BottyBoyPaulie

    “that's very rich coming from an uncompetitive & lazy english wannabe from the islets.”

    Yes bottyboy!!! Wear your stupidity with PRIDE!!!

    Embrace it!!!

    When all else points to any other conclusion, IGNORE IT!!!

    Most be vow to make the coming year better than the last one, I say “most” other people because that clearly is not a road you wish to travel down.

    Nope!! Not our BottyBoyPaulie!!! He is happy in stupidity.

    Keep posting BottyBoy!! I enjoy many a laugh on reading your truly brain dead comments.

    Jan 18th, 2015 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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