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Found dead prosecutor who denounced Argentina president for covering up Iran

Monday, January 19th 2015 - 06:45 UTC
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The body of AMIA special prosecutor Alberto Nisman was found in the bathroom of his apartment in the Buenos Aires City neighbourhood of Puerto Madero late on Sunday. Read full article

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  • LEPRecon

    Conveniently found dead the day prior to showing evidence against Argentina's corrupt regime.

    I wonder if this 'suicide' is the next step in this governments slippery slide towards complete dictatorship. I mean, didn't Putin's rivals often conveniently commit 'suicide' too? Those that he couldn't fit up on corruption charges. I wonder if Cristina is following in her 'buddies' shoes.

    There is definitely something 'rotten' in the state of Argentina right now.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    SAys it all about the currupt government in Argentina.

    We should significantly militarise the Falklands. With nuclear weapons if need be.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @2 brasherboot

    The UK doesn't have land based nuclear weapons they're all on submarines. However, any nuclear armed submarine could easily reach Argentina no matter where it was in the world. And according to the paranoid Argentine President the UK keeps on parked off the coast of Argentina anyway! ;D

    But I believe that a Type 45 destroyer has been sent to patrol around the Falklands for a while, which will no doubt send the Argentines screaming to the UN to complain about the UK's 'Death Stars' militarising the South Atlantic.

    However, as I stated in my previous post this 'suicide' is far too convenient. Hopefully whatever evidence Mr Nisman found against CFK can still be presented. However if it has all conveniently 'disappeared' then there is definitely a conspiracy going on.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @2 brasherboot

    “currupt”?

    Just why “should the UK ”significantly” militarise the Falklands? With nuclear weapons if need be? This matter is an internal Argentine affair and has no connection with the Falklands/Malvinas dispute.

    Just let la Kretina and her colleagues wallow in their mire!

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    What a strange coincide.

    Could it be that “suicide” has become a transitive verb in Argentina, in the same way as “disappear” once did?

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Do any Argentine posters believe this is a suicide?

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    @6 Hell no!
    Just shows the desperate depth Christina has sunk to covering her tracks.
    And you think your president is bed.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Je suis Nisman

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Sorry I meant to say “ And you think your president is bad.”

    I am looking for my glasses right now :(

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • alsy

    When I read he was to present this evidence it flashed through my mind 'Well, he's probably a marked man...' but of course didn't say it to anyone at the time. She and her cronies are getting desperate.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    No doubt Nisman thought that he was at risk of a roughing up whilst I for one am not at all surprised by this 'suicide' given the rat is corned and she isn't going to go down peacefully.

    Nice try though from Nisman but his death is bound to quieten those who sought to ride on his coattails.

    I wonder if Jorge Lanata is in hiding yet: after this nobody would blame him.

    Cue the 'it wasn't us' claim from Gollum.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    So, the investigator into CFK suddenly turns up dead.....

    that's.... “convenient”.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    Depressing.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    RIP Alberto Nisman.

    So much for democracy..

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    Jesus H Christ...this is so serious. What price dissent now ?

    Depressing, and dangerous.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    So he investigates and gathers evidence for years, he decided to go against none other than the president and her cronies and the night before exposing in Congress he just takes his own life away??

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    In situations like this, it's strange that the verdict from the accused is always suicide! They can't even come up with a more original cause of death.

    Alberto Nisman a brave man!

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    La Cámpora is already blaming CIA in the blogosphere...no surprise there.

    Capitanich will make a statement at 08.00. He should tread carefully, his words might ignite the nation.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Oh, l'm sure it was suicide, like bloody hell.
    One more reason, malvinistas, why we want nothing to do with your shambolic country.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    The murder of Alberto Nisman is an outrage. CFK and Timerman should be hanged.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    I dont rule out suicide but I think his family in Europe was threatened.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    As others say, this is far too convenient. My first thoughts are that there may be a couple of options. I can't find out quickly whether this guy had family. Is it possible that a family was threatened and he really did commit suicide? Can't rule this out. But the most likely option has to be a hitman. Being found in the bathroom is irrelevant, unless it has an outside window. How easy would it be for a 'government operative', or even a criminal posing as one, to gain access to the apartment, force Nisman into the bathroom and then shoot him.

    Unfortunately, we may never know. Who will investigate? Why is there no mention of a weapon?

    It is interesting that this occurs as an ex-Secretary General of Interpol pontificates. http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/179820/ex-interpol-head-roland-noble-what-prosecutor-nisman-says-is-false
    And also that his name is misquoted. It isn't Roland Noble, it's Ronald Noble. And there are question marks about the latter stages of his career?
    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/179820/ex-interpol-head-roland-noble-what-prosecutor-nisman-says-is-false

    @4. Here's a reason. The Falklands issue is constantly used by the argies to divert attention from domestic situations. Here we have information about CFK about to be disclosed, with backup documents, by a specially appointed prosecutor. Suddenly, he's dead. Probably murdered by a British agent operating from the Falklands in order to throw suspicion on CFK. Can you imagine the outcry? The demands for the Islands to be invaded and the occupants 'punished'? So, yes, there is a reason to put a warship there. There will probably be a fleet submarine as well. Perhaps, 5,000 to 6,000 miles away, a British ballistic missile submarine will be on alert.

    Dictatorships always like to blame someone else. Remember Hitler? Remember the Gleiwitz incident? German SS troops in Polish uniforms 'attacking' a German radio station was the excuse for war.

    But, also remember how everything bad in argieland is the fault of the British.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    No attention to detail.The article says-
    Nisman reportedly committed suicide, according to sources, who say he was found in a pool of blood. That information has yet to be confirmed.

    Unconfirmed
    Bet you saw a scene from a film like psycho.
    Happy reading you all

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BLACK CAT

    They used to send the Tax auditors knocking not so long ago......................................................................................................................

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Anyone surprised?
    The Ks are a criminal regime
    I hope they get what's coming to them

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dsullivanboston

    He was slaughtered by the slime running Arg right now. He was/is a true hero giving his life for the pursuit of truth in a place not worthy of his death. If there are any men left in this country they should riot today but I would expect little.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    Last Wednesday Nisman said to Clarin: “Yo puedo salir muerto de ésto” “I can get out of this dead”

    http://www.clarin.com/politica/Nisman-puedo-salir-muerto_0_1288071267.html

    One wonders if his evidence has committed suicide too?

    Nisman has a daughter - after his murder: Nisman had a daughter.

    He said Wednesday
    “... le tuve que decir a mi hija que iba a escuchar cosas tremendas de mi persona”

    ... I had to tell my daughter that she would hear terrible things about me

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    And the kirchnerite apostles will see no connection. Argentina is now by far a more dangerous place than ever before. While this in of itself is an internal matter of a government operating as a mafio and drug cartel. For the people it means losing connections to the world. I hope this acts as a wakeup call.

    yb see who returned?

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    Did Iran Murder Argentina’s Crusading Prosecutor Alberto Nisman?

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/19/did-iran-murder-argentina-s-crusading-prosecutor-alberto-nisman.html

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    As much as I dislike the Ayatollahs, I'm pretty certain at this hour it was the Argentine intelligence service which had him done.

    CFK had far more to lose from his briefing to congress than the Iranians

    I think its a disgrace that international media dont know enough about the scenario is in Argentina and imply it was Iran in this case

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Self-Determination

    Argentina finally has a brave man only to see him killed by cowards afraid of his words

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    And once again CFK keep going lower and lower. People are very angry, there might be a demostration soon. However, the opposition politicians are too coward to do anything.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @30

    That's the most likely explanation. I imagine there was a phone call, part of which went thusly : You have a daughter and an elderly mother. We have Vatayon Miliante. You choose.”

    http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/komradek_zpsdfa71a14.jpg

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    33.
    They had passed information and details of his daughter to the Iranians.

    Ohh I wonder when Axel arg will come along with a ridiculous title saying its all Clarin, that the media cretins and imbeciles are speculating like of vultures, blah blah blah….

    Miserable bastard

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Do you notice, not one Argie Troll on here???

    Do you think they've been told to keep their heads down, and not inflame the situation???

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    All the KKKs have being quite today

    Global TT were #MuertedeNisman (Nisman's death) and #CFKasesina (CFKMurderer) until some hours ago.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Looks like we may have another hit on the hit parade.

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/179911/judge-lijo-interrupts-recess-to-take-nisman%E2%80%99s-complaint

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @9 I don't have a President as I am English but I understand your drift…….

    It will be interesting to see for how many Argentines this is a game changer. The K's must have been desperate to do this because it could spectacularly backfire if the majority think it is murder on CFK's orders.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    I've read several articles published by the Israel media which tend to think it was a Iran hit. They also ALL agree that the CFK government was guilty in protecting Iran from their guilt in the bombings.
    So either it was Iran or Argentina (perhaps both) but this brave man, did not kill himself with a .22 pistol. The locked door is just a ruse to cover the crime.
    Alberto Nisman was murdered.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    If anything the Iranians did it on behest of CFK which I really doubt. I've said for years people investigating the Ks have a nasty habit of showing up dead.

    I have to laugh at some of the previous comments over the years of the Rgs on this board claiming they are past all of this type of nonsense. Argentina is nothing but a narco state run with impunity.
    Filthy place
    and it will never change

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Wonder where Chopper is, this showed up on the web. ;)

    http://www.urgente24.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/imagen-nota-622x342/notas/2015/01/19/nisman%20cristina.jpg

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @8 HansNiesund
    Lol

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    39. Iran lost interest in Argentina and the whole thing the moment the Interpol Red cards were not lifted. So I doubt they care at all. The Iranian parliament when Ahmadinejad was still in power didn’t even approve the memorandum with Argentina and is now boxed. The whole memorandum of 2013 (that was started being cooked up since late 2010 after Nestor Kirchner died), according to Nisman was intended to get the accused Iranians to walk around freely in the world.

    From the interviews that Nisman gave in the past days its clear that top government officials traded impunity of the Iranians, intended to set a false clue and version (the so called “Syrian” clue) of the AMIA case and in exchange Argentina would get to shift its geopolitical stance by unlocking the political handicap of the AMIA and then Iranian oil would come, De Vido will get his fingers on the trade between the countries, etc. All done with CFK’s behalf. That is what got Nisman killed

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    37 IMO

    Good for Judge Iijo !!
    I hope nothing happens to him

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Has CFK made a statement yet?

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aureliano

    It is a sad turn of events. It makes my blood boils to see this kind of stuff happening in my country and in democracy. I'm still in shock. I think he had critical information and was getting close to the truth. The thing is, How things will continue from now on?. What's going to happen with all that evidence, i hope it wasn't found and destroyed, but i doubt it.
    I hope people remember this during the next presidential elections.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (8) HansNiesund
    Vous êtes un turnip!

    (13) Heisenbergcontext
    Indeed...

    (19) Isolde
    It was suicide... Most probably induced...

    (20) & (39) Chicureo
    Hermanito Shileno... If I was you, I would start focusing my attention on this guy...:
    http://www.clarin.com/politica/Jaime_Stiuso-SIDE-Oscar_Parrilli_0_1270073113.html
    This “operation” has his signature all over...

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Elaine, according to the Israel media, she's supposedly sent her profound sympathies to his mother. This is a major PR problem for CFK.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @48 Thanks. No public statement though?

    No need for the coroner or police to carry out any investigation because 'Think' declares it suicide. I guess that's how they do things in Argentina.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Turns out he was shot with his own pistol 2cm below his right ear.
    Try imagining shooting yourself right now, where would you place the barrel?
    Not below your ear I am sure.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    47. Don’t blame the parallel secrete services. Stiuso has worked for more than 10 years with Nisman.

    If it was not you guys behind it all you would be hysterical and fussing from CFK to the last minion.... none of that, all we have is accomplice suggestive silence from you guys.

    We all know its you guys whether it was induced or staged.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Funny I see Yulena post than oddly.....so does voice. Now is I had said nothing...that Patagonia pinata would be posting as well. Either the floods receded or the electricity is back on....or both.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dsullivanboston

    31 well said! It wasn't the Iranians, or suicide, CIA, the British, Falkland islanders, or any other rubbish they will slide out in the media the next few weeks. CFK killed him and it is up to Argentines to bring her to justice. The judge will get nowhere, just ask Nisman...

    They have a cancer that affects the entire country and makes the whole place sick. Until she is gone everything will digress.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    52.
    At least he has shown more a less what the official line will be: blame the ex-SIDE agents and that will move on to the CIA.

    They have being waiting for the K version to be netted up.
    It usually works like this when uncomfortable events “happen”. First silence, read and wait for opposition reaction. Downplay and make everything relative. Then throw and then cook up a cynical version completely miss fit with reality.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Elaine, I actually sense that Señor Think is as appalled with this crime as we are.
    I suspect that a wide range of political believers (both right and left) are upset with this death.
    Think: From personal experience, although we Chileans have little admiration of most Argentine governmental organizations, your powerful and well organized Secretarial de Inteligencia, which, with the exception of Colombia, is at least 10 times the size of any similar agency in South America, has a major headache as almost everyone will suspect their involvement.
    They can't win...

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aureliano

    Meanwhile Julio Lopez is turning over his grave.
    What dark and sad day for democracy, truth and freedom of speech.. Makes me feel utterly ashamed to be Argentinian.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    If he was murdered then you are not just looking at a corrupt government, but a corrupt police service, corrupt pathologist, corrupt coroner and corrupt judiciary. A dead body passes through many hands.

    Do they have inquests in Argentina? the family should be able to ask for an independent pathologist and post mortem.

    Depends how rushed the order came in to kill him as to whether they managed to stitch up the full chain of investigation.

    This is not a civilised democracy however, so who knows!

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Think, my alter ego is back and so am I ! Spreading misinformation, bile and propaganda is our job. Fat Max spoke, KFC whinnied, and Gollum slobbered and here we are. Wasn't us guv…

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (55) Chicureo

    “They” always win..., hermanito.

    By the way, Stiuso is an “EX” S.I.
    “EX” as in fired by Mme. President Cristina after 43 years of service...
    Just a couple of years before retirement...
    ...That's his grouch and motivation

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    The idiot Think does his best to demonstrate how stupid he is.

    Think: Stiuso has a grudge against la president Cristina and so he silences the person who can bring her down.
    Signed Idiot first class, Think

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Suicide or murder ?
    Men in black==or men in skirts...lol

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    “And we lie, lie, lie on a streetcar named desire
    Oh we lie, lie, lie for that sweet bird of youth”

    Just a couple of “years” before retirement...He was retired just days ago, impossible to organize his grudge crime you alledge

    18/01/2015 | 08:09
    El histórico agente de Inteligencia Antonio Horacio Stiuso, alias “Jaime”, se fue de la central de espías con una jubilación, según confirmaron a PERFIL una fuente del Gobierno y miembros del entorno del ex Director General de Operaciones de la Secretaría de Inteligencia (SI). También, se habrían jubilado agentes que respondían a Stiuso.

    http://www.perfil.com/politica/Stiusso-el-espia-detras-de-la-denuncia-dejo-la--ex-SIDE-y-se-jubilo-20150118-0002.html

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @49 ElaineB,
    It is also how the PT does it in Brazil. About 15 years ago, Celso Daniel, the mayor of Santo André (a progressive town in the State of Sao Paulo) decided to denounce his party , the PT, in what later became an enormous corruption scandal involving garbage and public transport contracts with the municipality. (Lula's first Finance Minister , Palocci, was involved, but 'Lula' said he wasn't guilty....so that was that !). Just a few days before Celso Daniel was to testify, he was the victim of a very mysterious, poorly accounted for, car-jacking....no ransom was demanded, and his body appeared the morning after he was abducted - but the funny thing was, absolutely nothing happened to the driver, who besides being a very shady character, and already condemned for several financial crimes, was a personal friend of Lula's. He was obviously involved, if not the perpetrator, but the PT's political steamroller just squashed the investigation Recently, the opposition tried to re-open the case, which was shut down just as quickly as the first time...
    I'm surprised that none of the accused and arraigned in the Petrobras corruption scandal have not been murdered yet....but there's still plenty of time for that ...the closer the investigation gets to Dilma and Lula, people will start dying mysteriously.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    Article.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/11354521/Argentine-prosecutor-who-accused-Cristina-Kirchner-over-1994-bombings-found-dead.html

    Tragic. Obviously he had the accurate and correct information on Kirchner.

    Too obvious for any sort of explanation from the Kirchner “ government, ” who is no longer believable by this act. Repetition of the murders and assassinations ordered by and conducted under the Junta of Leopoldo Galtieri

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF5O8OdWvfo

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Have you guys seen Canaletti in TN?? Berni had nothing to do in Nisman's flat, yet he was there at first hand declaring it a suicide since mid night.

    There is now versions that he was actually killed on Saturday night / early monday.
    The Sunday paper was not picked up.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Oh all the Sistahs are back today.
    What a surprise
    Defending the indefensible

    Filthy scumbags

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Sorry I stand corrected, It was 2 cms above the ear.
    I read the other version on some jack ass English news site that can't hire a decent translator. (BA herald)
    This news made it to the front page of CNN, but then they have a video of some lame reporter in Sao Paulo reporting about it. WTF ! Don't they even have a reporter in BuenosAires with a population of 14 million?

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Single bullet wound below the right ear by a 22 caliber pistol which was left at the scene.
    “when you eliminate the impossible whatever remains however improbable must be the truth” Sherlock Holmes.

    I'm guessing the CCTV has mysteriously gone missing or not working, no forensics due to poor scene preservation. No fibre lifts, no low copy DNA lifts, no cell site capture of mobile phones used in the vicinity on or around time of death.

    I don't think poor Mr Nisman will receive much of an investigation.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    I feel sorry for his 2 daughters and wife.

    Where he is in the morgue now is only 1/2 a block from the 1994 bombing site in a touch of irony.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Hmmm. No suicide note. There almost always is and surely he would have been at pains to explain to his daughters.

    The Russians are good at dispatching dissidents, home and abroad. Their 'suicides' don't leave notes either. Maybe Putin give CFK some tips.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mr Ed

    Cristinanacht. QEPD.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Quelle surprise. ;)

    http://www.clarin.com/politica/Cristina-reacciono-sorpresa-fuerte_0_1288071358.html

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    “Prosecutor Fein: No third-party intervention in death of Nisman”

    Excellent work! in the advanced countries the analysis of every fibre, hair, shoeprint, etc. takes about 60 hours. In Argentina it can be done in less than 12. Marvellous!

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    The probability of someone committing suicide and placing the barrel just behind and under the ear would be remarkable. Not to mention someone knowledgeable in the best head shot area.....just at the base of the stem. Typically one sees suicide with a mouth or temple shot. But that is not always successful. Behind the ear is always successful........for an assassin.

    #74 Exactly....that room would have been scoured and vacced and they'd still be in there.

    At least the world see's Argentina for what is really is. And see's Kirchner as an accomplish and enabler to Iranian terrorism. Nothing will become of this inside of Argentina.......even opposition like Macri and Massi have no balls to do anything.

    Just another day in paradise.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TimothyMacAren

    Mmmmm...
    First of all, Cristina is under our control; she has Timerman as Foreign Relations Minister; he had, has, and will have, total access to Cristina anytime of the day, night and/or siesta; Timerman brought a loud tweet Kicillof as Minister of Economy, who is bleeding Argentina dry; Cristina gave away a whole rich province, Tucuman, to some Alperovich, who is running Tucuman to the ground with feudal rights; Alperovich's wife (preappoint Tucuman's next governor for the next 20 years) is the current second in Argentine line of President succession; Cristina has been bamboozled into creating a “Ministry of Thoughts” and set up a Forster another friend as its Secretary. And the whole country has an inordinate number of controls, geared up to make Argentina a jumping jack.
    Second, it is understood that Sharon ordered the 1992 bombing of the Israeli Embassy on Buenos Aires and nobody cared about it, so this 1994-attack investigation began with the idea that was other of those “boys must be boys” mischief (the Israeli Daily Davar wrote Sharon said “I volunteer... blowing up one or two synagogues here and there I don't care”.) (Google it.)
    And third, passed several Argentine governments, under varied control of our intelligence bureaus, that ruled and ruled and ruled again, that there was no assurance that Iran had anything to see with it. No counting several oops here and there assassinations of supposedly responsible Iranians around the world, during these years.
    But the more important point is that Alperovich has made Tucuman a Mossad Center of Operation since 2003 (don't take my word for, google it.)
    So, do you faintly think that under these circumstances, could be possible that Iran and its Ayatollahs have something to do with it, and we not have known it? Not a chance.
    Argentina and President Cristina Kirchner, are being used as one more propaganda ad in this absurd Religious War that is ravaging the world. And Humanity. Nisman is one more casualty. RIP.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    The building on 25 de Mayo 11 must be like a bee hive right now. The procedure of murdering a target, leaving his fingerprints on the gun he had and casing as embedding gunpowder on the hand...along with being apparently locked from the inside of his apartment is right out of intelligence lore.

    Even if the authorities find the truth, they will not be able to make it public.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    It's “Spot the lie” Time on Mercopress!!!!!!

    A game show for all the family!!!!!

    See if you can spot which one of these statements is the lie!!!!

    Nisman reportedly committed suicide

    The Falklands belong to Argentina

    Monkeys will fly out of my butt

    The Cheque is in the post

    AND

    No, I won't c*m in your mouth...............................

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lornefirth

    gangsters,murders, politics nazi rules, how can they blame is on the Falklands.......

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I wonder if the “rpossecutor” realizes that they don't analyze dna or anything that requires any techonology in Argentina. If its a headline case its sent to the FBI.

    I hope the apathetic Rgs get off their collective as#es and do something about this.

    something tells me they won't tho.

    stupid people

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    @77 Hey When Christina stamps her feet her minions listen.
    They had all the DNA and crime scene reports finished and signed 8 hours before Nisman died. (Even had time to eat some Chori's)

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    @ TimothyMacAren

    “Sharon ordered the 1992 bombing of the Israeli Embassy on Buenos Aires and nobody cared about it..”

    Yeah, sure - and 9/11 was an inside job.

    A tip to you, my friend: Put on a tin hat before typing. It'll protect your brain from cosmic radiation.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Only after the cooked up “results” the FpV block makes a conference and Dominguez already sets that it was a suicide and he implies at this moment it was a “sector of the intelligence services” that pushed him to take his own life...

    It’s so depressing, sickening and obvious it was them and it is everything staged...

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    What if any are the similarities between this event and the David Kelly event?
    Are there other similar events?
    I think a South Africa athlete is behind the scene and the victim was shot thru the looked door and he should get 9 month house arrest for it
    No need for a trial.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Looking at the social networks in Argentina the majority by far are outraged and believing CFK is ultimately responsible. Do we think she can really survive this scandal?

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dsullivanboston

    76 you are going to see one foolish story after another, lying, half truths, coming from Cap, Kick, and other minions. They are just getting their lies straight at the moment

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    It's surprising they did not throw him into the river plate...standard practice for the naval school. Its so tragic that the Argentine people do not march on and dismantle the current political dynasty. Jorge Lanata, get yourself an arsenal of guns...they will come for you next !

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Elaine,
    It's very probable that CFK had no knowledge of his killing, but you are very right that she'll be blamed anyway.
    Breaks my heart...

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @88 Who do you think is responsible?

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aureliano

    Hilarious.
    Now they are blaming Clarin, Cia and Mossad.
    Never ceases to amaze what a bunch of conspiranoids they are. This is on you, just like Julio Lopez and many others.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Some of the Argentine posters on here seem genuinely outraged, but to just say “I hope they remember this at election time”, seems to be a very limp reaction to what amounts to cold- blooded murder of a responsible top official, in order to thwart the Judicial System!!

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aureliano

    I know, right.
    Things will never change. Peronism ruled this country for 50 years and this nation is rotten to the core.
    I gave up hope a long time ago, sometimes i want to make believe that things will eventually change, but as a 27 years old person, i know this country won't see the light of the day not even after i die.
    We are doomed. All i hope is that i eventually find a way out of this shithole and into a civilized country.

    Tbh i don't even care about this country. I don't want to know anything anymore, i'm tired of this bullshit and i think i've had enough a long time ago.

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Is it true protesters are taking to the streets of Buenos Aires?

    Jan 19th, 2015 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Elaine,
    I'm watching live Argentine TV Telenoche and everyone is outraged about Nisman's death. His family has already declared that he was murdered and the news commentators are in agreement.
    Israeli press is convinced it was Iran, but the Argentine media is implying their own government.
    I can't imagine the SIDE would be so stupid, but Chile's DINA was even more idiotic, so who knows?
    In any case, CFK will suffer greatly for this.
    The program is showing protesters currently in the Plaza del Mayo.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    There is a demonstration at Plaza de Mayo right now. People are outraged.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aureliano

    Yeah, not sure how many. The MSM will not show any of the protests going on right now.
    I'm keeping tabs on the protest through here.
    https://www.facebook.com/elcipayo?fref=ts

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    The special program just finished with a view of the hundreds of people protesting in the Plaza de Mayo.
    Now there is a game show on with beautiful models and contestants trying to win kitchen appliances...
    Such is dear Argentina

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Yeah, just checked through the twitter feed #nisman. There are photographs of the people gathering all over BsAs, and other large cities. The power of social media to form protests at short notice at work. You have to wonder how it will escalate.

    Did the government anticipate this reaction from people? If they did they should have surely hauled CFK up on TV to make some kind of a placating statement or at least to express her 'shock' at the tragedy. Arrogance and indifference will never cut it. I suspect they had no idea that people would react in this way.

    @94. Thanks. I haven't heard all the evidence to form an opinion yet. If I were to make an educated guess at this stage I would suspect that CFK expressed a wish that Nisman and his allegations would just go away and someone made her wish come true.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ekeko

    “Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?”

    Personally I don't think it will be the Russians, they tend to poison their targets. Apart from that who knows.

    I just hope that Argentina wakes up from its 5 decade mental Peronist rave up and sees what it's doing to the mind,heart and soul of itself.

    It's becoming degrading to its own people and its standing as a what could be- a great nation.

    @96 the crumpets are on there way buds if you need them.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Does anyone think Crissy cares about a little pot banging?
    She's been dosed asleep for a few hours now and won't be revived until mid morning.

    Argentina is a joke.
    A sad sad joke

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aureliano

    @96. Don't bother, it will end up stuck at customs or stolen by some employee working there.
    I lost the count of stuff that i ordered and got lost in the limbo of customs or stolen.
    Thanks anyway. It doesn't seem very difficult to make Home-made crumpets it is for me then.

    TN is showing the protest now.
    http://tn.com.ar/envivo/24hs

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    In response this this national crisis la Kretina posts a letter on Facebook?? No cadena nacional. That's only for when she wants to announce some of the “wonderful things she does”. What a damn disgrace. Wake up people of Argentina. You could be the next victim.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aureliano

    This is a going to be a crazy year and as we get closer to the elections i get the feeling it will also turn more violent.

    Sad and dark days ahead.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    Cristina Kirchner on the death of Alberto Nisman: “What was it that brought a person to make the terrible decision to take his own life?”

    http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1761408-cristina-kirchner-publico-una-carta-sobre-la-muerte-de-alberto-nisman-que-fue-lo-que-llevo-a-una-persona-a-tomar-la-terrible-decision-de-quitarse-la-vida

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    Sad and dark does not describe the possibilities of this country. The country has been in crisis for a long time and its time to tell cfk enough.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ekeko

    @103

    Probably, but equally if the morass genuinely wants a different direction where there is more transparency demanded etc his life might not have been lost in vain.

    It might just be the kickstart a genuine opposition candidate might need to start something good and decent.

    From Small acorns and all that.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-judge-dies-chambers/story?id=19680508

    Shit happens.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Here's the letter from Facebook I ran it through Google translate for the monolinguals.
    FULL LETTER FROM THE PRESIDENT

    The death of a person, always causes pain and loss among loved ones, and dismay at rest. Suicide also leads in all cases, first, stupor, then: questions. What was it that led a person to make the terrible decision to kill himself ?.

    In the case of the ¿suicide? the prosecutor in charge of the AMIA case, Alberto Nisman, there is only wonder and questions, but also too long a story, too heavy, too hard, and above all, very sordid. The tragedy of the largest terrorist attack that occurred in Argentina.

    Personally takes me back to past and hard times: the July 18, 1994 was Deputy Provincial Santa Cruz and National Constitutional Convention in Santa Fe for my province. Florence, my daughter had just turned four years and Maximus was finishing high school. Traveling every week to Santa Fe, and that lunes18, horror changed all our routines.

    I can not forget that there were two days after the attack, I find in Santa Fe that the July 20, on the occasion of the attack, created the Ministry of Security and appointed head of it to Brigadier Andrés Antonietti.

    I confess that when I heard that designation, a cold ran down my back. He still remembered clearly that person. In 1980, during the month of November in Rio Gallegos, placed in our firm a bomb ticking and also broke all gas pipes of the heating by flowing it and turning our studio into a giant bomb, have detonated had caused a disaster. Only a miracle will not let that happen.

    Mr. Antonietti, at that time, I was vice commodore and deputy chief of the Air Force who ruled the province of Santa Cruz. We had held a brief telephone exchange that ended when I cut the phone. At that time our study had lawsuits against contractors for public works of the force and auto service Air Group. I see myself still, after so long, testifying before the Police Officer Instructor and collecting signatures for a divo

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    And so who, exactly, is she blaming for this?

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    It was cut short on this website
    She rambles on and on.
    You can read it here http://ambito.com/noticia.asp?id=775496

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ekeko

    @110

    I think you alluding to the old tradition of....

    Bullshit baffles brains.....

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Argentina has become something like a TV thriller only it is not on TV
    it is real
    you have to read about
    it is not a joke.....but it sure as hell sadly comical.

    Wake up Argentina and take your country back before you have a Ceaușescu running your country because you are well on your way.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I bet it was Clarin.

    Why do these idiots put up with such nonsense?

    The apathy is killing Argentina.
    It won't go out with a bang but a whimper.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @107

    Sure does! ;)

    https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10933994_943781768967793_5974895935087517488_n.jpg?oh=9a990273f7fff88dabc16f25cbad7327&oe=55255907

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    Judges and prosecutors kill themselves on a daily basis all over the world. It is stressful work. Don't recall calling the presidents of other countries assassins when they killed themselves.

    Once again, double standards to bash Argentina. How typical from the anti-argie haters.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    Shut up cruise cont...face the reality of this country. Where do you see demonstrations all over the country calling for the resignation of the president?
    Watching the demonstration in Plaza de Mayo...people facing off with the federal police...they should be telling them to protect them from the government.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    yb. Any bets on who they murder next? Some pretty good protests over the murder of Nisman. Maybe the judge.....one thing is certain...kirchner is surely desparate to be this brazen and careless. There must be a round with waiting for that crazy psycho.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    @116

    You shut up. You are the foreigner, trying to distebilize the country. Whatever happens, it was no doubt orchestrated by the EU and North America due to the WTO.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @115

    Chopper, your dream has come true, and now you will be able to run through the streets waving your facon on a government paycheck!

    http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperqueen_zps9decebe2.jpg

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    Cristina spoke of the “suicide?” Nisman, although he is suspicious of the investigation by the Prosecutor

    The President spoke about the death of the Prosecutor who charged it for concealment in the AMIA case. Suspect an operation of Clarín. There you go...its all the fault of Clarin.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    118. You are the foreigner. You csn't even name streets where you pretend to live. You should shut your cum bucket you call a mouth.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    Cruise cont...yes I am a foreigner...contributing to the wealth of this country. And deeply worried about my decision to live here. You have an elected dictator and everything is out of control. And my note at 120 is from Diario Los Andes.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ekeko

    @118

    That's right because the EU and U.S. Has nothing else to deal with apart from a wto dispute with a single country...why didn't you chime in Japan with that statement ?

    No ninjas involved?

    It's not like the pillars of the UN have anything else to deal with.

    Self centred yet again.....

    Btw the country has been destabilised since peron took over...keep raving...

    Got any Vera's?

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    @123

    You are the argie hater with the Bolivian wife. How objective can you be.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Ask where 124 lives....Europe. right Pagina boi

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    I spoke with a friend tonight who is retired and lives in San Juan.
    He's convinced that CFK was not involved in the murder, but the government is. He's formerly a part of Argentine naval intelligence and belives the SI was involved. I asked about Iran, and he said it was too perfect. Iran would had used a car bomb or sniper. The staged suicide required more finess.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @124

    You hate everyone. Objectivity is inconceivable for you. You are the perfect tool for your mistress. ;)

    https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10933994_943781768967793_5974895935087517488_n.jpg?oh=9a990273f7fff88dabc16f25cbad7327&oe=55255907

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Hmmmm provided it was not the colombian cartels I think its time for the boys that had Menem Jr “accidented” pay another visit to the corrupt Argentine elites and some intelligence officials like D'Elia and Esteche...

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    After reading various online Argentine newspapers I was left with more questions than I had before about this tragic death that reminds the country's sad past.
    So now I am going to tell the investigators to come and check the brave postings here, where readers have already carried out the investigation, discovered and charged the suspects, tried and convicted.
    Why bother with the facts?

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @126
    That's one way of executing a coup or staging a general disorder that requires “suppressing.” Inside job.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ekeko

    @124

    Close, no I don't hate argies, never have. far from it.My wife isn't Bolivian her family is. In Blighty all the Spanish latams are tight as a drum. The argies are included.....

    I feel like I'm a bridge between two worlds like my wife is to be honest. And that what defines being british to me. And that is a good thing

    Your being self centred in trying to blame everything apart from what is staring you in the face.

    Your being screwed over from what is rightfully yours by a ruling elite who wish to bullshit you left right and centre, then remove anyone who disagrees with them.

    Stop projecting and start rebuilding what could be a great nation like I said in a previous post.

    It can be a great country and it needs passionate people to do it...be one.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    What never be known is the extent of evidence that was destroyed with Berni entering the scene and compromising the crime scene. It's like the keystone cops investI gating something serious. With the level of corruprion there........nothing with ever be known or believed. Maybe you idiots can just kill each other off and let the Argentines start over because that is your only hope.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    132 you are right. They have carted away all of his files and guess what!! No evidence was found to implicate la kretina. Amazing isn't it.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @132

    You realize Berni is under investigation. He'll say and do exactly what he is told to. ;)

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/177447/security-secretary-berni-indicted-on--illicit-enrichment-charges

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 02:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    @131

    Unlike the drone-morons who claim I'm somehow stupidly blind, I have always stated Argentina is “gone” and is never coming back, I have never pretended otherwise. There is nothing to be done nature takes its course. Countries rise and fall, we had our time, and better than most.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • commonsparrow

    Horrific shock. This will be dragged on for a while, just like Vince Foster was.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ekeko

    @135

    Well, look at the Uk? We have risen and are now on some sort of decline. That doesn't mean not to make it a better place.

    Apathy is the worst disease of democracy.

    Don't suffer from it.

    Your better than that.

    Regards

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I read that all Misman's evidence that was in safe was sent to the judge who is now cutting shirt vacation now that he is dead. Something he could not do last week. I think the people need a serious uprising like an Arab sor in ......a Latam fall. Between venezuela ...Argentina and brazil........it's begging for an uprising.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    As Toby was so fond of saying the last few weeks...

    Burn baby burn

    :)

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    A little anarchy will be good for them now.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    140. More than a little is needed. CFK is deaf and dumb but hopefully not blind.

    http://bubblear.com/marches-erupt-across-argentina-protest-nismans-death/

    Someone being funny from the Falklands..

    http://bubblear.com/marches-erupt-across-argentina-protest-nismans-death/

    I think I'll just keep signing like Toby did...

    Burn baby burn
    and there it really has a chance to
    Go go go

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    Just another warm summer night in Mendoza. Nothing going on after a peaceful democratic protest.

    How odd, the foreign newspapers caught lying again.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    137 Ekeko

    Dont bother - hes right - they are gone - no point pretending otherwise.

    Nostrils and Pablo Cabanaboy have no future.

    He wants to say the same thing is happening to us.

    Only if we let it.

    As for Argentina, if their Navy ships are sinking like the country. - I wonder how many bother to swim - its futile, you know LOL!!

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Just another warm summer night. ;)

    http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/choppers_hot_time_on_the_old_town_zpsea5e5668.jpg

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aureliano

    Reminds me Toxic Skies at the beginning. (From 00:00 until 03:07)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1TzuAN34-4

    Food for thought. Good night.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 04:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TimothyMacAren

    @ 89 ElaineB
    Sylvia Rafael ? Is this you? Sylvita!
    I thought you were gone!
    Thanks God you're here!
    I surmise you must be working at Avda. Gral. Indalecio Chenaut Nº 1793, Bs As., right? Making good money, out of these gullible Argentines? Were you in this “suicide” too? Oh, my God! But of course!
    (I mention God, just to make you crinch, sorry. It's a joke! It's a joke!)
    Well, if you want me, I will spell it out for you. All.

    If this Nisman did not disappear himself, it was disappeared by the Mossad. It's clear like a whistle.
    The guy did not have anything of value to declare to the Argentine Congress, other than his jealousy and scorn for not being named General Prosecutor; then, when the whole world was going to know that was not possible to accuse Iran of anything, was no convenient at all to the Propaganda Machine. Zap!
    Comprende?

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 05:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @146 TimothyMacAren

    “Comprende?”

    ... pay no attention to the man behind the curtain... never mind him... look over here....

    Sure... “Timothy”.

    ;- )

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 05:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TimothyMacAren

    This is another case like the Vulture Funds vs Argentina (where a 84 years old Judge Thomas Griesa, who has been for like 12 years ruling and ruling and ruling against a “banana-republic-country-who-dares-to-disobey-ME!”) fixation; A fixation. Check wiki/Natalio_Alberto_Nisman.
    As a matter of fact, if Nisman did not have a clear reason to keep bugging Kirchner, it is credible that he committed suicide, before being embarrassed in front of and even been charged by their Congress.
    Then, all these Nisman declarations, and charges (until sad demise), and banana-country accusations and hullabaloo are pure distractions inserted us up, of other more important points, like the fixation of the-one-that-ordered-the-bombing-assassination-of-Palestine-children-obsessed-with “bomb Iran, quack, bomb Iran, quack, bomb Iran, quack, quack, quack, quack”.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    148 TimothyMacAren

    funny how Argentina never does anything wrong.

    Just coincidence that everyone, and there are many, who criticise the K's, accuse them of lying, accuse them of theft, graft, corruption, extortion, racketeering, accepting bribes... and now, murder... all those people are crazy, or “have their own agenda”, are covering up their own crimes, are liars, loonies, Neo-Liberals, Bolivians, “lying Journalists” etc etc etc ....

    Odd that, isn't it???

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 06:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Self-Determination

    When and if the truth finds its way out you can guarantee it will be a long time from now with all those implicated would have been long dead and buried, nobody left accountable.

    If i were an Argentine i would be yet again ashamed!!

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    It is the hands of the Argentine people. If they feel strongly about it they will continue to protest until they force change.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Troy it looks likethe young lad produced yet another screen name.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    152-
    I think it could also be paulcedron, Vestige or Marcos Alejandro for its antisemitic comments

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    what ever happened to the old days of “one person, one name”?

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @142 I am not sure where you are but things are far from well in Mendoza. You would know this if you were there. The people in the wine industry are trying to stop this years Fiesta de la Vendimia - I know you love it - because it is costing them more to produce the wine than the retail price. The government promised money but it has not appeared and the wine producers may not have enough money to harvest.

    “The Argentine wine sector has been hit by falling exports, high inflation, tight credit, and an unfavorable exchange rate.”

    All is most certainly not well in Mendoza.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    With the farmers striking and now the oil workers:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-15/ypf-says-mendoza-oil-strike-to-prompt-fuel-shortages.html

    Tobi if you are not stupid then stop imitating stupidity with such pride. A warm night in Mendoza must be a tough one to conclude for January. But the strikes are another matter......especially for one who does not live there.

    SOme more things are happening there......care to tell us?

    Of course not because one would need to be there to know.

    lol

    Run and hide tobi. Get your pagina fixed.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I'm just waiting for the straw...

    its bound to be thrown on at any time now..

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”“”“Argentina is nothing but a narco state run with impunity.”“””

    would you be referring to the vast volumes of methamphetamine precursor that is imported into Argentina by friends of the Ks?

    (and then exported as drugs)

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    158. Yep

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    148 TimothyMacAren

    “As a matter of fact, if Nisman did not have a clear reason to keep bugging Kirchner, it is credible that he committed suicide, before being embarrassed in front of and even been charged by their Congress”.

    No it isn't

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    so no residue powder found on either hand. BUT....the government insist that does not rule out suicide. I wonder who will bite on that hook? PC?

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    No gunpowder traces in his hand and he left a handwritten shopping list for his maid to do on Monday, he also wrote a wassap messege to family and friends

    “Éste es un mensaje de difusión masiva para un grupo pequeño y querido de amigos y allegados que no siguen el día a día mi actividad. Es simplemente informativo, por favor no responderlo.
    Debí suspender intempestivamente mi viaje de 15 años a europa con mi hija y volverme. Imaginarán lo que eso significa. Pero a veces en la vida los momentos no se eligen. Simplemente las cosas suceden. Y eso es por algo.
    Esto que voy a hacer ahora igual iba a ocurrir. Ya estaba decidido. Hace tiempo que me vengo preparando para esto, pero no lo imaginaba tan pronto. Sería largo de explicar ahora. Como ustedes ya saben, las cosas suceden y punto. Así es la vida. Lo demás es alegórico.
    Algunos sabrán ya de qué estoy hablando, otros algo imaginarán y otros no tendrán ni idea... Hasta dentro de un rato. Me juego mucho en esto. Todo, diría. Pero siempre tomé decisiones. Y hoy no va a ser la excepción. Y lo hago convencido. Sé que no va a ser fácil, todo lo contrario.
    Pero más temprano que tarde la verdad triunfa. Y me tengo mucha confianza. Haré todo lo que esté a mi alcance, y más también, sin importar a quién tenga enfrente.
    Gracias a todos. Será justicia.
    ¡Ah! Y aclaro, por si acaso, que no enloquecí ni nada parecido. Pese a todo, estoy mejor que nunca. Jajaja :)
    Alberto Nisman.”

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    162 translation of note

    Sorry, it's Google Translate

    “”This is a message of dissemination for a dear little group of friends and relatives who do not follow my daily activity. It is merely informative, please do not answer it.
    I should unexpectedly stop my 15-year journey to Europe with my daughter and become. They imagine what that means. But sometimes in life moments are not chosen. Things just happen. And that's something.
    This I will do the same now going to happen. It was already decided. It has long come prepared me for this, but do not imagine so soon. It would take too long to explain now. As you know, things happen, period. This is life. The rest is allegorical.
    Some will already know what I mean, imagine something other and others will have no idea ... So in a little while. I play a lot on this. All I would say. But I always took decisions. And today will not be the exception. And I do believe. I know it will not be easy, quite the opposite.
    But sooner or later the truth triumphs. And I have my confidence. I will do everything in my power, and more also, no matter who has front.
    Thank you all. It will be justice.
    Ah! And I clarify, in case, do not freak out or anything. Still, I'm better than ever. Hahaha :)
    Alberto Nisman. ”

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  • Jonaz_BsAs

    @TimothyMacAren
    “..before being embarrassed in front of and even been charged by their Congress. ”

    How is it even possible to be humiliated in front of the most pathetic congregation of human beings ever assembled? An oxymoron, your statement.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    “La fiscal Viviana Fein dispuso, con acuerdo de la jueza Fabiana Palmaghini, que el arma sea nuevamente accionada, esta vez por otra persona cuya mano será sometida a un idéntico barrido electrónico que Nisman.
    ---------
    Prosecutor Viviana Fein has decided, with the agreement of the judge Fabiana Palmaghini, that the gun is fired again, this time by another person whose hand will be subjected to an identical electron microscope scanning like the one performed on Nisman.”

    Thus destroying any and every evidence on the weapon itself. This is either extremely amateurish or very clever. Anyone who thinks a firing test with the murder weapon itself is a good idea either has an IQ below 80 or wants to destroy evidence.

    The pistol is a standard Argentine produced Bersa Thunder 22 so any number of the same make and model can be acquired for testing.

    No residue found on Nisman's hand - what about residue on the pistol itself close to (every)where a hand grips it ? whose fingerprints are inside the pistol? on the cartridges in the clip? Inside wiped clean is proof of murder.

    The cal. .22LR (5.67 mm) BTW is a favorite for clandestine murder, as the projectile is soft and has so low energy that it doesn't leave the skull but ricochets inside the brain, creating more damage than e.g. a 9 mm.

    Jan 20th, 2015 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    In black ops, the bullets and clip are imprinted as well as the weapon. Looks like the SI screwed up on not leaving powder residue.
    Nisman is just one more victim of a ruthless government.

    Jan 21st, 2015 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    It is clear the Argentine government is going out of the way to bury this murder as an coincidental accident. Nothing independent whatsoever.

    And many accept this version, with statements that the late Sr. Nisman created his own “sordid” affair, and thus deserves what he got. Sad times.

    Eventually a Truth Commission will investigate and indict, just as it did with the murders and disappearances committed by the Galtieri Junta

    Jan 21st, 2015 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    I think that at this point even the government concedes that at least it was an induced suicide.

    I think we will have eventually a good idea of what happened. The cops that where on guard where probably working for the SIDE

    I think that a massive cover up with so many flaws already will leave room for many conspiracy theories for years and years to come, but eventually researched writters and journalists, leaks here and there will give you a good idea of what actually happaned...

    Also... What about the SIDE allies of Iran Esteche & D'elia ??? Will they suicide or misteriously suffer an accident?

    Jan 21st, 2015 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tarquin Fin

    I think that Nisman's death took this govt by surprise. Not that big of a surprise 'cause they were expecting some reaction. CFK just didn't expect such a far reaching reaction. If she had ordered it, she would have been more prepared to respond. Not so.

    Someone is sending CFK & cronies a clear message. I can tell that Nisman was not in his comfort zone at all. Let's not get us lost in the fog. He knew darn well what he was getting into. I don't know him personally but he was certainly on top of something bigger than what he thought had figured out.

    Without realizing it, he became the pawn, the exchange token of a much larger and far reaching game.

    This is just ping-pong. The only difference being that CFK has seen her options narrowed after this one. She will comply. Ultimately none of us will know for sure what went down. The show will go on. She'll reach december 10th, weather INGSOC wins or not.

    The sad part is that she will still enjoy all those millions and that we'll still be screwed for years to come.

    Jan 21st, 2015 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/alberto-nisman-committed-suicide-lets-kill-that-lie/

    Good reading!

    Jan 21st, 2015 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @170 Chicureo,
    Sounds logical....Hopefully, the Kretina will not be able to sweep this under the carpet.

    Jan 21st, 2015 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Jack
    Oh, she'll not be convicted of the crime, but she'll never be able to rid the suspicion of guilt. A sad, but realistic view of how corruption is ingrained in the government.

    Jan 21st, 2015 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (170) Chicureo

    Never found the official Mossad line to be any “good reading”...
    I never believed the Iranians to be responsible for 1994 either...
    I lean towards the Syrians...

    Anyhow... I “ Think” that some of the more hawkish Zionist elements in the Israeli Press should moderate their unfounded accusations against an Argentinean Government that currently musters two Jewish Cabinet Ministers, six Jewish Senators & twelve Jewish MP's...
    ...Even the Lady in charge of the Nisman case is a Jew.

    Just for fun...
    How many Jewish Ministers, Senators and MP's do you currently have in my Chile lindo?

    Jan 21st, 2015 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    The K Trolls and Loonies are really getting defensive about the un-defendable, CFK's involvement with Nisman's murder, and the debt to the holdouts too.
    Here is Argie “Celene” arguing with another poster in the Economist:

    “in reply to Ed Straker
    Pay attention:
    __ I reside in the USA, like it or not.
    __ Argentina is paying the debt to the ones that agreed to receive payments thru Argentina's bank.
    __ I am only responsable for my financial status.
    I am not responsible to pay the 17 TRILLIONS USA DEBT!!!
    __ I am not ”defending“ or ”protecting“ CFK.
    So do not put words in my mouth!!!
    __ I said:
    Iran and Israel hate for each other is well known worldwide!!!
    Iran and Israel should not demostrates their hate attacking Argentina, a country that have welcome jewish and iranians immigrants !!!
    __ CHILE immigrants are found in the southern of Argentina looking for a better life. The well known ”chilotes” are uneducated.
    __ BRAZIL is unable to provide toilet services to 100 millions of blacks brazilians that make half of the 200 millions population. Stinky country!!!
    __ Billionare George Soros keeps investing in Argentina, regardless of what YOU said!!!
    __ Nisman had too many facial cosmetic surgeries which indicates he had serious mental problems.
    Is well known that mentally ill people wants to hurts others and then commit suicide.
    __ There are protests in the USA on daily basis everytime someone dies specially if is a black.
    __ There are protests and strikes in the USA from airline pilots, bus drivers, food workers, teachers, police officers,etc. all demanding higher wages because of the high cost of living.
    __ Argentina had WORST presidents than CFK, what YOU did then and NOW to seek justice for 30,000 desaparecidos or the 1982 unnecessary killing of hundreds of argentinians serviceman?
    And finally remember that,
    Nisman committed suicide because he was mentally ill unable to cope with life.
    Argentina's bank is paying the debt.
    Argentinians will investigate anything illegal

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  • ElaineB

    @174 I think that shows that when people lose their tempers they let their guard down and reveal all their hatred and prejudices. We see it here.

    There are many theories being bandied about but almost no one believes it was suicide.

    It would be easy to blame CFK - did anyone check if she had gunpowder on her hands? - but even indirectly seems unlikely.

    It could have been one of her crazy devotees trying to prove their undying loyalty to her or a La Campora nutcase - there are so many - taking things into their own hands.

    Personally, I think this is a power struggle within the Argentine security service. It is fragmented and divided in loyalty. They would have the means and knowledge.

    What is absolutely without question is that CFK and her gang are utterly incapable of handling this situation. We have called them amateurish before, making it up as they go and deciding policy on a whim, but facing a very real crisis - a huge crisis- and they are like headless chickens.

    Jan 21st, 2015 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    173.
    Does it matter if they are Jewish members of the Ks gov't?? There is Jews in opposition and mostly the free media they despise.

    The fact is it was the Iranians, the syrian clue was planted.

    The fact is CFK joined in and coverd up the Iranians not because she is anti semitic, but rather anti Israel and left wing

    Jan 21st, 2015 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    175 ElaineB

    You nailed it - angry, and indiscreet outburst.

    Obviously racist, it was also hilarious that “Celene” linked “facial surgeries” to being “mentally ill” etc.

    Rather a desperate attempt to support the Government explanation.

    Jan 21st, 2015 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @177 “it was also hilarious that “Celene” linked “facial surgeries” to being “mentally ill” etc.”

    Quite. When people lose their rag they are so quick to hurl insults they don't pause to think about what they are saying. Whoever that was ranting is pretty dumb.

    Jan 21st, 2015 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    ElaineB,
    It's so ridiculous.

    If plastic surgery induces people to hurt others, then CFK must be a murderer.

    Oo... er... wait a sec.

    :-)

    Jan 21st, 2015 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    some really interesting posts by Troy, and informed comment by ElaineB, also glad to see that CD2 is able to differentiate between 'anti-semetic' and 'anti-Israel'. This is a very important issue. For example, I may strongly disagree with Israel's foreign policy but that doesn't mean I hate Jews per se.

    Not sure about CD2's comment “The fact is it was the Iranians, the syrian clue was planted.”

    Not sure what you are referring to; the bombing or the 'suicide' ? and what 'fact' ?

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    180
    Do catch up please.
    It was the Iranian's responsible for the AMIA bombing in 1994. As the CIA and the Mossad and pretty much every secrete service in the world does now.

    The only thing left was that Iran delievered the suspects for interrogation by the Argentine prosecutor.

    The Syrian clue (that our ever more ocassional K dwellers are willing to lap up) is a false one that Rabbani was telling the Argentines how to plant in the case. That is what Nisman was going to testify in congress and had over 300 CDs of audio of this among other things.

    Hope it helps.

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 05:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    181 CD2

    Sounds about right!

    Thanks.

    Please follow up and tell us what people in the street are saying over the next few days about CFK.

    The pictures we see of people in the street, are they doing anything, saying anything??

    How solid IS CFK ??

    Is she in trouble, or will it fizzle???

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    And CFK is off and tweeting. . . . . .

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    182.
    Its mostly a sentiment of resignation, because you get the feeling that most people with self-awareness knows he was murdered by the government but nothing is going to come about it. The justice system is completely corrupted save the Supreme court.

    I also think its important to remind people here that they are 4 different cases
    1) One the mother of the rest, is the AMIA bombings in 1994 which Nisman was the official prosecutor who was named by decree by Nestor Kirchner in his first government years in an effort to be at good odds with the Jewish community in the US and Israel.
    2) The cover up of Galeano the first judge that took the first case in the 1990s, that deliberately stalled the whole thing for years and years to cover Menem's government officials and SIDE involvement if not Menem himself. Menem's son Carlos Jr got “accidented” in 1995. [Mossad??]
    3) The Iran-Argentina memorandum that Nisman commenced and had being working on the past 3 years or so
    4) The actual death/murder/ suicide of Nisman.

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Señor Think
    Today, with CFK announcing her belief that Nisman was murdered, sort of changes the game, don't you think? The will have to blame it on the Iranians now.
    To your question about Jewish representation in Chilean government, Argentina has roughly a quarter of a million Jews, Chile has less than 25 thousand. (We also have about 400 thousand Chileans of Palestinian decent.) Jews feel far safer and less persecuted here than most elsewhere in South America.
    As far as Jewish ministers and politicians, we've had a fair representation. (Laurence Golborne and Cecilia Perez are examples.)
    Allende and Pinochet had good relations with Jewish politicians also.
    Unfortunately, things are starting to get ugly worldwide. I hope the trend stays away from our two countries.

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    I guess its hard for an KK arse licker to adjust his GPS when the boss shifts 180° “the version”

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (185) Mi nunca bien ponderado Señor Chicureo...

    You say...:
    “Today, with CFK announcing her belief that Nisman was murdered, sort of changes the game, don't you think?”

    I say...:
    Nothing has changed...:
    President Cristina two days ago, on the 20/01/15...:
    “...detrás del “¿suicidio?” de Nisman hay “una historia demasiado larga, demasiado pesada...”
    http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpais/1-264331-2015-01-20.html

    President Cristina today, 22/01/15...:
    ” El suicidio (que estoy convencida) no fue suicidio...”
    http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpais/1-264331-2015-01-20.html

    Your most humble servant, three days ago on the 19/01/15 (see post (47) on this thread)...:
    “It was suicide... Most probably induced...”

    Vincit Omnia Veritas
    El Think

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Señor Think
    The Truth will Set You Free
    (2 John 1:4-6)
    Latín is nice, but Hell awaits your president, here on Earth as well as in what Dante wrote about.
    I'm enjoying a couple of drams of single malt this evening. Cheers!

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    President Cristina is just blowing smoke, next she will be demanding a 'full investigation'. Another 20 years of obfusication and meddling, whilst she is off to Cuba with her dirty loot.
    hmm...
    plus ça change

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    187.

    ¿Qué fue lo que llevo a una persona a tomar la terrible decisión de quitarse la vida?. CFK DIXIT

    “ Todos los caminos conducen al suicidio ” Berni Dixit

    “La tenes adentro” DAM Dixit

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (188) Chicureo, my dear lad...

    Try to remember your Catechism (or your Dante...)
    A good Catholic as Cristina Fernández may, anytime, avoid Hell trough True Repentance...
    You should know that... unless you are an Anglican ;-)

    Anyhow...
    Shifting to something more “Spiritual”...
    Name, Age and Strength of that Malt.........., if you please.

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Are you near Bariloche?

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Caol Ila 12 years which my son-in-law brought back from his last trip abroad.

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Not a bad choice... if you are into Islay's...
    The boy has taste...

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    Come on people. One cannot be so willingly ignorant.
    “Nothing new” is the headline of the Buenos Aires Herald:

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/180042/nothing-new-nismans-report-fails-to-fan-flames-of-conspiracy-

    Nisman's 287-page “accusation” is full of smoke and false allegations.
    There was no suspension of Interpol's red alerts requested by Argentina at any time.
    Two alleged members of Argentina's intelligence services were anything but that.
    Lastly, the famous wiretaps do not contain any trace of the voice of accused government members.
    So who was interested in Nisman not going to answer questions to legislators?

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Buenos Aires Herald is K media and its read by foreigners that follow Argentine news. What joke !!

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    THINK
    I forgot to mention it was grado 43•

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (195) Sr. Massot
    As poster (196) proves..., turnips can indeed be willingly ignorant. 
    (197) Sr. Chicureo
    You are making me thirsty...

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    175 ElaineB

    “Personally, I think this is a power struggle within the Argentine security service. ”

    That's great !!! But for God's sake don't mention Islam....And don't go Eeekamuslim!!! otherwise you'll have CD2 on here, bursting a vein and ranting on about the threat to western / world culture, overthrow of governments etc, etc, etc

    P.s:- He may even accuse KFC of being a secret muslim.......... How's that for a game changer?

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @199 From Bubblear.

    ”Nisman legally owned two guns, but the one found right next to his body wasn’t his. In fact, it belonged to “an assistant and friend” named Diego Lagormarsino, who immediately came forward to say he owned the firearm.
    According to him, Nisman himself asked to borrow the gun “for safety reasons”. Lagomarsino says the prosecutor told him he had been contacted by the former head of the Secretariat of Intelligence (SI) Antonio Stiusso, who warned him “not to trust his security detail” and “make sure his daughters were safe”.
    Stiusso, you may recall, was relieved of his post by the Cristina a month ago after a shake up that was largely interpreted as a power struggle within the SI. The President replaced him with former presidential secretary Oscar Parrilli, a man she trusted.
    Lagomarsino testified that he went to Nisman’s apartment once on Saturday, had a coffee and left. is currently staying in a hotel and is protected by 15 police officers who watch over him. Prosecutor Viviana Fein, who is investigating Nisman’s death, could very soon summon him for questioning again.”

    Since then it was reported that Prosecutor Fein couldn't find Lagomarsino so banned him from leaving the country, though he was only staying with a friend (not in an hotel surrounded by 15 possible assassins, I mean, security guards) and when he heard the news he called Frantic Fein to say, “Hi, I'm here. Wassup” or something like that. Don't you get the feeling that not one competent person is investigating this murder?

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    Ola Elaine-

    Inspector Clouseau, it would seem.

    Is the Prosecutor Sr. Fein incredibly dim, or do all the investigators just appear that way ?

    “ Here is the gun we found: Hold it for a minute while I light a cigarette. ”

    A Truth Commission for CFK and her ilk is coming.

    Jan 24th, 2015 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #196 Cabeza Dura:
    Does not believe what certain media says:
    “Buenos Aires Herald is K media and its read by foreigners that follow Argentine news. What joke !!”
    Cabeza Dura only reads Clarín and sometimes La Nación. He defies anyone to be better informed.
    The Buenos Aires Herald is credited with being one of the few, if not the only, newspaper that kept informing in Argentina during the Videla dictatorship. Of course, this is of no value to C. Dura and friends. Better to read only my friendly media than risk having multi-source information

    Jan 24th, 2015 - 05:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Buenos Aires Herald is owned by Grupo Ambito and they are in bed with the Ks. Infobae, Urgente 24, Perfil and La Nacion, are mostly what I read as well as Clarin.

    Funny that you claim to be Argentine yet you rely on a paper written for foreigners and old retired residents in Argentina which they dont even know it belongs to the Ks.

    You claim that Nisman's accusations are unfunded let me ask you again... Are you based on what?? What CFK and BAH says ???

    “Nisman's 287-page “accusation” is full of smoke and false allegations.”
    Wow have you read it?? I havent.

    Have you even heard the first of many audios of D'Elia and the Iranian agent Khalil that were released yesturday??

    http://radiomitre.cienradios.com/amia-mas-escuchas-de-la-denuncia-de-nisman/

    Jan 24th, 2015 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Caradura & Co. On today's front page of Página 12...:

    http://www.pagina12.com.ar/fotos/20150124/rudypaz/na01di01.gif

    :-)

    Jan 24th, 2015 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    It is my understanding that Nisman was shot 2 inches below the ear, heres a thing, try holding a gun in your right hand and try and shoot yourself below the ear, you will find it almost impossible to do it with your trigger finger, you would probably do it if you used your thumb. It is the most awkward action to kill oneself, better to shoot yourself in the neck or mouth. Looks like a professional kill to me.

    Jan 24th, 2015 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #205
    Whether Nisman committe suicide or was murdered is significant but not the main question. The question in either case is, who was behind the fiscal. Who pushed him to cut short his vacation and return to present his denunciation? Who pushed him to suicide or murdered him? For those who already know the answers (it would've been the government) think again. Not one but the government was most interested in Nisman appearing and sustaining his denunciation the Monday after his death.

    Jan 24th, 2015 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Shaggy wrote and performed the seminal song of Argentinian politics ... “It Wasn't Me!”

    Shaggy's lyrics have the same hand-up denial of the blatant truths.

    Just because Putin can do this time after time doesn't mean Argentinians can do the same.

    Jan 27th, 2015 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    206 Enricque

    “Whether Nisman committe suicide or was murdered is significant but not the main question. ”

    But of course Enricque, it was much more significant when the government was insistent that he killed himself, before any investigation.
    It was significant that he was about to expose gross government wrongdoing by CFK and Timerman, but was suddenly dead. The government's only statements were an attempt to distance themselves from his death.
    No concern for interference in an investigation, no mention of condolences.

    That only changed when it was clear that the people weren't having any of that!

    Any “investigation” will be lost as its submerged in bureaucracy, again.

    Jan 27th, 2015 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    As sad as it seems to suggest that this affair amounted to a government killing an employee in order to silence him/her before the release of damning information, it is by no means the only case.
    In my opinion it is most common.

    The Hinduja affair did for Peter Mandleson in 2001 - the Bofors kickback scandal). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mandelson#Second_resignation),

    David Kelly was 'found dead' in 2002 - the Weapons of Mass Destruction justification of Blair's War.
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mandelson#Second_resignation),

    Alexander Litvinenko, a former officer of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and KGB, 'died' in London by polonium poisoning presumably at the behest of Putin.
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mandelson#Second_resignation),

    CFK has been 'shown how to do it' by many earlier great people who should certainly know better.

    Jan 28th, 2015 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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