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Suspicious death in Argentina by The New York Times editorial board

Thursday, January 22nd 2015 - 07:17 UTC
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The following editorial was published on Wednesday by The New York Times addressing recent events surrounding the mysterious death in Buenos Aires of special prosecutor Alberto Nisman, who was investigating the still unsolved case of the July 1994 attack on the Argentine Jewish community center, AMIA. He had been involved in the case for ten years and investigating an alleged Iranian connection. Read full article


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  • Troy Tempest

    Great article.

    Can't wait to see how it works out.


    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    She needs to express sadness at this man's untimely death. Sympathy to his bereaved family would also be perfectly decent and a good idea.
    By not doing what is right and proper she is merely drawing attention to herself as a potential suspect.

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    TMBOA did not express condolences to the family because she saw him, rightly, as a serious threat to her personally: and she was correct in that.

    She unddoubtedly, indirectly, caused the death of this brave man.

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Pagina 12 or the NY Times? Who is more credible, Christian Rubilar?

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    She has lost the plot.

    Cristina Kirchner: ”I am convinced that it was not suicide '

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Someone should tell CFK that she does not have to immediately articulate every thought that comes into her head.

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Well I'm impressed that 70% of the Argentinian public and what looks like 99% of the political commentators believe that Nisman was murdered.
    CFK is taking a populist stance and perhaps now the SI will discover damning evidence that Iranians were to blame...

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Elaine I am sure that there are not many and they are fleeting at best. I think that she is being an opportunist. :-)

    It's pretty bad when such a liberal paper as the NYT rants about you. This is huge news worldwide. I can't imagine something good (for Argentines) coming of this. At least I hope.

    Chicureo the public needs to be relentless in protesting. That snowball is at the top of the just needs a little shove forward.

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    Argentina is sinking faster than the Belgrano

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    What about this 10-person security detail? Who appointed them? Who paid them? Where were they when they were needed most? There was a 'snippet' recently that said Nisman's body was found after he failed to answer a phone call from a member of the security detail. What sort of security detail relies on phoning the person they're supposed to be protecting? Perhaps the phone call was just to check that the job had been done.

    There can be little doubt that CFK was responsible for ordering this. How long will it take argieland to wake up to the fact that it has a murderer as president?

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    @10 This is the first post where you have not mentioned Ballistic missles or nuking a country.
    Guess you took your medication today. Good chap!

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    This gov't is frito (fried). Finally the lying, fraud and corruption caught up with them. One has to wonder if they'll make it to the elections.

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Your Comment#12
    But you have to understand that “lying, fraud and corruption” have almost always been a tradition of nearly all Argentinian governments.
    During the dictatorships of Latin America, they eliminated their witnesses by the thousands, yet few were punished. (That includes my beloved Chile.)
    In times of democracy, it's just done on a minor scale and more discreetly.


    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    6. Aspergers.

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo
    Who has access to Nisman's neighbor's apt?

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    That is true - but corruption is shades of grey and Argentina has now sunk into pitch black territory, much worse than under Menem. Chile is squeaky clean compared to Argentina.

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @11. What an amazingly unintelligent faggot you are. Stick that thumb back where it excites you and then suck it.

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    @17 Ahh there is the Conquerer we all know and hate.
    Looks like the meds are wearing off again, better double up.

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

    No, I think Conqueror's observations (Nr. 10) are correct about the security detail. And who kept tabs on the whereabouts and actions of the 10 security staff ?

    Go in on the pretext of a security check, “ Hello-We are just checking up on you , ” then fire the weapon, drop it by the body, and leave, locking the door behind you.

    Then document it (or not ) as the 20:00 hour routine security check - “ Nothing noted. ”

    CFK directly in this ? No, I do not think so. She has a problem as she cannot keep her mouth shut, even in this murder case.

    Most likely a group of her minions acting with a wink and a nod from her, and setting the murder up in the belief that Sr. Nisman's elimination is the action she she wanted. In fact it may have been given to a third party to commit.

    Typically, although she no doubt savours the outcome with Timmerman and others ( “ Just make sure there are no fingerprints back to me ” ), such action taken by the actual perpetrators provides her plausible denial ability.

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Her face , says it all

    Jan 22nd, 2015 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    As Briton has said elsewhere, KFC is just trying to turn this into another 'smoke and mirrors' JFK-type episode. She hopes by spreading enough mis-information she can escape censure.
    Tough. The world has moved on.
    People are not so easily fooled these days.
    Hopefully this is her downfall.

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    The usual chorus of know-it-all can be seen here at work full steam, as others are in Argentina's opposition media.
    They may have to change their discourse, as anybody even mildly informed right now knows that the Nisman affair is anything but simple. For starters, Nisman's famous accusation to Cristina Fernandez does not even contain enough material to start a legal process.
    The thick folder is full of wiretap conversations that include shady characters but do not involve Cristina or anyone from her government nor are valid proof for the courts. Statements in Nisman about Interpol's red alerts, members of the Argentine intelligence services were in fact not such members, etc. etc.
    For the government it would have been a good thing if Nisman had attended his Monday meeting with members of the Legislature.

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 04:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    22 Enrique Massot
    I take your comments in their entirety. But you can't change facts.
    1) Nisman was under the protection of the State
    2) Nisman was placing a case against the current Administration
    3) Nisman is dead
    4) Nisman died in suspicious circumstances
    5) The original case is being forgotten in the wave of this new scandal

    I have no more knowledge on the truth than you do.

    You have the right to your own opinion, but you do not have the right to your own facts.

    One fact remains.
    Argentina is looking bad right now. This stinks and you know it.

    Why you can't own this is your problem... and makes you appear weak.
    I don't see how you can defend CFK. Maybe state-sponsered murder is less prevalent in Canada? Do tell...

    Troy!!!! maybe you could inform us of all the state-sponsored murder incidents in the history of Canada, this should take you all of about 0.5 seconds, cheers!

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 05:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    23 ilsen

    Yep, stumped me!

    But dont be too hard on ol' Enrique - he's a dupe, and just repeating the officially-issued Troll propaganda.

    There was another CFK supporter and apologist on a forum for the Economist.
    He too, was saying Nisman offed himself because he was mentally ill, and he was afraid that he would look foolish when he presented his supposedly, inadequate evidence before the court.

    The poster insisted that it was suicide because Nisman had “too many facial surgeries, and everyone knows those people are mentally ill” !!!

    I wonder if they have received new instructions, now that CFK has done an 'about face' and is publicly saying there were anti-government conspirators who murdered him?

    Ahh, the sapling doesn't fall ... it bends with the prevailing wind.

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 07:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    @22 “Nisman's famous accusation to Cristina Fernandez does not even contain enough material to start a legal process.”

    Based on what ?? Did you here more the more than 900 CDs of audio. Did you read the full Nisman discharge.

    Timerman was ordered to white wash the Iranian suspects under the direct orders of CKF

    Why did you attack Nisman and why did you kill Nisman if his case was meaningless??

    I guess old habbits die hard,,,,,,eh Terrorist??

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    22 Enricque

    You need to change your tactics now - even CFK had said Nisman was MURDERED - a conspiracy against Her government.

    She's taking a page out of Maduro's book
    - a traitor under every bush!!

    Jan 23rd, 2015 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    Which again is taken from the Lenin/Stalin book. It's astonishing how history repeat itself. To a tee.

    Jan 24th, 2015 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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