Calls are growing in Brazil to impeach President Dilma Rousseff over a multi-billion dollar corruption scandal involving the state-run oil giant Petrobras. While the country celebrates its annual Carnival, with the 2015 Samba Competition wrapping up in Rio de Janeiro, there has been a growing clamor on the web and in the streets, with millions of Brazilians asking for the impeachment of their president. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesImpeach the dirty corrupt bitch !! Dismantle and outlaw the Worker's Party (PT).
Feb 18th, 2015 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Haven't the Brazilian people just voted this woman into power,
Feb 18th, 2015 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps not a good choice in the light of things.
When you say Brazilian people, you've got to separate the masses who are generally ignorant and/or living off social welfare, and are potential voters for the leftist, popular parties, and the other part, made up of those who work, pay taxes and contribute to society, and are able to see through all the lies and the incompetence of the fat D, and who would normally vote against her ; the problem is that at the moment, the first group represents about 51% of the electorate. It used to be higher, but it's dropping.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Brazil is torn up socially,“ he explained [Aragão]
Feb 19th, 2015 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who is to blame for that?
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/02/18/web-campaign-to-impeach-rousseff-gains-ground-with-2million-e-petitions#comment381495: Ha, ha. Democracy's a bitch, ain't it. Your problem is that the real middle class is politically incompetent. And lounging poolside waiting for the return of a military dictatorship is not a strategy.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 04:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0The fact is that, by following what are effectively nation building policies, the PT has transformed Brazil in a long lasting way. And the Brazil of the real middle class will not be returning. This is why, for instance, it was necessary for the presidential candidates to repeatedly to promise that the social programs would not be repealed. It was Aecio's misfortune that he was not believed.
However, the lack of credibility associated with the PSDB is diminishing and, as shown by the recent congressional results and the closeness of the presidential election Brazilians are prepared to vote for the candidates that they believe advance their interests. So I would not be surprised if a PT candidate was to lose the next election - even if that candidate was to be Lula. But the winner of the next election will be Lula because all candidates will be running in the Brazil of his making.
The signature quote is, The higher social classes, which hate Dilma, are those who have access to the Internet, and time on their hands. This petition may represent the real middle class but not the real Brazilians.
Incidentally, the US government, in its Pentagon guise, has formed a certain view of Brazil's future which is quite positive. The contrasts with the pre 2003 practice which meant that the US government did not bother to form any view of Brazil's future - other than the 1964 view that Brazil should be subjected to a cruel rule by military gangsters.
5 Hepatia
Feb 19th, 2015 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yes you are correct as usual,
[ Democracy's a bitch, ain't it ]
then Argentina has to go and spoil it by turning up...
@7 Hippy
Feb 20th, 2015 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cannot disagree that democracy's a bitch ...BUT as usual, from here on you are travelling on the mayo !!
It is NOT the middle class, real or imagined (the latter, by the PT) , that practises politics, it's CONGRESS !!! and Congress is made up of all classes, the 'born' rich, the 'new' rich , industrialists, commercial and agricultural enterpreuneurs, the not-so-patriotic minded Union leaders, a few politicians just recently emerged from the poor classes (but not poor for long) , and the usual scum that makes politics their career....so you see, incompetence - which there is plenty of - is spread 'democratically' through all layers of Congress. It does not belong to any 'one' class...
As to the PT having transformed Brazil in a long lasting way, again you are right...but, not in the right way. Unfortunately, only history will be able to analyze this UNemotionally.
Hippy, quite frankly, you think you DO, but you DON'T grasp Brazilian politics as you think you do......having spent a few months, or even years living here, probably several years ago, does not entitle you to blab as if you were up-to-date and aware of off the subtleties which occur behind the scenes, and that the mainstream press supresses, to keep the PT happy...
And why do you believe that , the 'REAL' brazilians excludes those who have an education, work hard and pay taxes ? What the hell is the matter with you ?? D'you think that Brazil is made up of ONLY ignorant twats, which suck off those who work ??? Hippy, please stop your ignorant rants, they are miles away from reality.
One of the best articles in English that I've read recently about Brazil is:
Feb 24th, 2015 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.brasilwire.com/brasil-today/
It certainly does not have much good to say about the real middle class and their political ambitions. It is the historical Brazil that the last two administrations have been laboring to ensure can never come back. And, I believe, they have succeeded. Whomever wins the next presidential elections the winner will be Lula.
@8 Hippy
Feb 24th, 2015 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You insist on using the expression real middle-class as if this social group were responsible for Brazil's lack of progress - in the rght direction, in a sustainable manner - quite frankly don't see how you come to that conclusion.
I read a good part of the link, and found a few remarks worthy of comment :
It says the vast majority of Brazilians are victims, not perpetrators....
I agree that the population, as a whole, has not had much of a chance to get a decent education....but, public schools, about 30 or 40 years ago, maintained a pretty good standard. One of the problems is that many parents, obviously the less educated, saw little benefit from their children getting an education at all, and were even content to be ignorant, generation after generation. This though, is hardly the fault of the 'real' middle class...it's a problem to do with Government policy, perpetuated by the career politicians, who even today, talk a lot but do next to nothing to improve the public education system.
The article says Brazil has shabby, run-down public buildings versus sparkling shopping malls.....Without a doubt, this is the result of the public sector's disinterest, and most times the politicians are more concerned with diverting public funds than using them correctly....On the other side, is the private sector, that sees the advantage of sound administration....here again, no fault of the 'real' middle class.
It is surprising that so few highly educated people manage to pull Brazil out of the gutter...only 11 % graduate from University..... in this group, you'll find a lot of people from the real midle class, those that study, work hard, open companies, supply jobs, pay taxes and contribute to a better Brazil..... unfortunately, they are not the majority, but they have to work to compensate for the shortcomings of the government and the rest of the population...I could go on and on, but no more space.
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