MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Despite pouring rain thousands turned out in Buenos Aires demanding 'Justice' and honoring Nisman
Thousands of Argentines demonstrators participated worldwide, under different climatic conditions, in the rally led by federal prosecutors to honor late AMIA special prosecutor Alberto Nisman, one month after his death. Demonstrators carried Argentine flags, chanted the national anthem and called for “Justice” and an independent judiciary branch. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCFK - has her wish - put herself in the spotlight now.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 07:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Waiting for Enriques 'reaction' - wel... at least his scripted response
“Never again”!
Feb 19th, 2015 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0With TMBOA and her thugs in the government it will be 'until we are in the shit again'.
Yo soy Nisman.
At least 500,000 locally marching.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hasn't rained here for 2 weeks then right as the march was on poured down,
Feb 19th, 2015 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0One K politician tweeted: Nestor is taking a piss. Before deleting the tweet.
It's funny, the Buenos Aires police, who were there on the ground said there were half a million people demonstrating, whilst the Provincial police, known for disappearing people, said there were a tenth of that. Who to believe, who to believe... ;)
Feb 19th, 2015 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 - How many times do the populace have to say “Never Again”? Nothing changes
Feb 19th, 2015 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4 “One K politician tweeted: Nestor is taking a piss. Before deleting the tweet.”
Feb 19th, 2015 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0The arrogance. Such distain for Argentine people. We listen to the trolls complain that we belittle them when their own government does it to them.
@4
Feb 19th, 2015 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seems to me the rain kept the K mob at home. That would indicate a different origin for the downpour. ;)
dear merdopress:
Feb 19th, 2015 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 01st, there were more than 400.000 people marching in b.a., not 250.000, plus hundreds of thousands in the interior.
http://www.clarin.com/politica/marcha_18F-fiscales_0_1306069711.html
2nd, since when julio piumato is a prosecutor?
he is a thief, a fucking syndicalist, was one of cristina´s minions and now he is a candidate for deputy.
the piece of shite should have been banned to speak in public.
now i understand why the average isleter is so fucking ignorant.
all they have as a source of information is this joke of newspaper...lol
6. Yeah they keep “electing” or should I say permitting corrupted thugs into office and expect a different outcome than the last time.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no hope for this Corrupted Society. They need to find a Pinochet and cleanse the Society of corruption before they could hope to advance into a civilized society.
As I have said many times, BA will look like Caracas soon enough. It may even bypass it.
Its sad but they get what they deserve.
Being there. And very proud.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope this is somehow useful.
11. I don't see how it will be useful. I learned living in Argentina that you can't be nice and reasonable with them you must keep your boot on their neck, scream, beat on the table at every negotiation.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentinians are strong with the weak and weak with the strong.
Cowards
Bullies
They only understand violence.
And that's the only way things will change in Arg.
Watch Ven to see your immediate future.
When PC growls and swears a lot you know he is upset so the march did some good.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 12
Feb 19th, 2015 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:´(
Becoming Venezuela has always being a K´s goal. But deep inside me I hope we don´t go there. That, or I will have to find a new place to live.
I am not going to accept a chavist - styled rule.
14. I've have been saying it for years and you already have a Chavista Gov't.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Next up will be bare shelves and no gas in the stations.
BCRA is clearly out of U$
and remember the Chinese $ is credit not cash....
@15 - Yup. No-one seems to get that it is just cerdit at a with a large coupn attached. When Argentina can't pay back, china will just take other things as payment. Exactly what they've done with every other country.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Re the chinese deal, does anyone actually have the contractual wording saying the chinese workers will be used on the relevant projects.
@9 Paul
Feb 19th, 2015 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Going by their past form I'd guess that 250,000 was the official INDEC estimate (i.e. about half of reality).
Only 3 letters to you all:
Feb 19th, 2015 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0brr
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
@18
Feb 19th, 2015 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see you've reached the maniacal laughter stage.
The talking gibberish is nothing new.
bwahahaha. Sufffer!!!
Feb 19th, 2015 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yb it's hard to see how Argentina is going to get through these next few months with growing shortages in more and more products daily. Argentina was not even limping along but being dragged as the albatross around Brazil's neck. This is now something Brazil can't afford to do. Now China is the last and only savior that could possibly provide salvation and even that is questionable.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Ms Fernández’s plan has failed: currency reserves have plummeted to $29 billion, from $52 billion in 2011. But the measures, along with the price distortions created by having multiple exchange rates and inflation running at 40%, have turned Argentina into one of the world’s worst places to operate a company. It ranks 124th in the “business environment” category in the 2014 Global Innovation Index of Cornell University—below countries such as Ukraine and Mali.”
http://www.economist.com/news/business/21636066-targeted-president-foreign-companies-are-leaving-or-scaling-back-waiting-cristina
Argentina is currently incapable of providing for themselves and supporting there own people. So the next best thing is to sell off Argentina to the Chinese. .....as long as Kirchner gets her slice. I wonder if she will make it to run and find a country of exile? I think Venezuela would be the likely and only choice......as long as the bus driver can fend off a coup.
Good luck with continued bailouts from China:
http://www.economist.com/news/business/21636066-targeted-president-foreign-companies-are-leaving-or-scaling-back-waiting-cristina
Next up.....Argentina, the new Zim
http://www.economist.com/news/business/21636066-targeted-president-foreign-companies-are-leaving-or-scaling-back-waiting-cristina
Haha Toby, its nice here in the UK today, a bit of welcome rain after a couple of lovely sunny days. Are you frying eggs on your tin roof?
Feb 19th, 2015 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby thinks snow and cold will faze us, like it does Germany, Norway and Canada.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not a smart people.
BTW Would you rather be in Buenos Aires at 100F with no electricity (which means no water) or Boston with heat and a spectacular economy and high wages?
Any Rgs would give their left nut to get out of that sinkhole.
Anyhoo, Not even Indec nor mass hiring by the Fed and Prov Gov'ts can make up for the huge amount of people getting let go from their jobs,
Won Decade Lost Generation
That is the best tobi...the fake Argentine can come up with is posts about weather. But if we needed to resort about weather we can always talk about the deaths in Cordoba from intensive rain and floods........but no one controls mother nature so lets stay on track with the failed political philosophies of the dying, now dead Bolivarian paradise.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was that a protest march? I thought its was Argenchinas Chinese New Year celebration for the Year of the Sheep!
Feb 19th, 2015 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sheep is very apt for Argies, but I hear the Pauly prefers Lamas! And Toby, her prefers Guanacos..
Talking about the weather? Maybe TTT is living in England?
Feb 19th, 2015 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, once again he spectacularly missed the point that developed countries have the means to heat their houses. I have family in Chicago and with the wind chill it is -30C today but they are toasty warm in their homes and offices. They can buy anything they need in the shops and live a good life with a future.
Poor TTT. Poor, poor, poor TTT.
Toby and others are no doubt funded and encouraged by one A Castro. I believe most live in the UK including Mr Stink and his various puppets which explains their intimate knowledge of UK affairs. But, wherever they are they cannot help but show their envy and despair.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yo soy Nisman !!
Feb 19th, 2015 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the voice of ignorance
Feb 19th, 2015 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0of course it was a protest march, but totally peaceful, you nincompoop.
what did you expect?
an english style riot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MerJU1YylZo
elaina
hope none of your relatives is one of these 610.042.
“In 2013 homelessness in the US reached its highest levels since the Great Depression, according to a federal Housing Department report that said 610,042 people experienced homelessness that year. More than a third were in unsheltered locations.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MerJU1YylZo
developed country my ass.
27. And by “the others” you mean the same “people” I call the Sistahs?
Feb 19th, 2015 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love that Brazil Argentina Venezuela are all crashing at the same time. It makes me think of people drowning and grabbing on to each other for support only to drag themselves deeper.
Makes me laugh and laugh.
“Pablo Cedron” may well be “Malen”
Feb 19th, 2015 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He slipped up the other day - writing as Malen, he used the same derogatory name for me, with much the same style that is unique to PC
Paul, Our match our o.1% homeless population with any nation on earth. Most of those people are crazy and won't go inside for anything. We do live in a free society so its not like the gov't can make them go inside if they don't want to.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're grasping at straws like Toby and as your little world gets worse and worse each day to are trying to deflect with ”facts' you don't understand in context.
Not a smart people.
Nope, PC, none of my family lives in poverty. I guess we all got a great education and work hard. In a developed country you can chose to work hard and real the rewards, or sit around moaning and being envious. People in developing countries don't have those opportunities.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what you, not too bright isleters, do not understand, is that i am the first in recognizing that argentina is a 3rd world country.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the point here is that brainwashed imbeciles like you lot, think that the uk and the us are switzerland or denmark.
well, no.
you are wrong.
they have the same problems of a 3rd world country.
england is in fact the only one 3rd world country of europe.
and that is a lot worse, cause it is not a regional problem.
as a small sample, here you have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzWYxVMd29U
@20
Feb 19th, 2015 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have news for you. I moved where I live specifically for the snow many years ago. I'm still here. Sure, it's cold, but it keeps the riffraff far away. Not everyone is a whining little nancy like you, some people enjoy cross country skiing and snowshoeing in the woods. And I certainly don't have to molotov cars, or set fire to women to stay warm. At least not literally in the latter case. ;)
http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperdilemma2_zpsd8c87421.jpg
By the way, have you ever managed to get anyone to come out of a burning car yet? I think we both know the answer to that...
http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperdilemma2_zpsd8c87421.jpg
I think a breaking point has being reached. The government has lost the political initiative. Macri is for the first time ahead in the polls. 66% of people will vote against a Kirchnerist candidate, hence Scioli can’t win in a second round.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They will play Randazzo as candidate as much as they can knowing he will lose with Scioli and then try to get the K hard core votes go to Scioli for the first round.
#29 Dany/Paula/Stevie:
Feb 19th, 2015 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“In 2013 homelessness in the US reached its highest levels since the Great Depression, according to a federal Housing Department report that said 610,042 people experienced homelessness that year. More than a third were in unsheltered locations.”
In your math what does that would out as a percent? Who said the USA as a developed nation is all things to all people? This is something that RGs have to comprehend as well, sometimes people have to help themselves also.
Some countries provide opportunities and the people don't act on them..........Some countries do not provide opportunities and the people CAN'T act on them.
15/16 Precisely. rotting roadkill just got a credit at the company store. Now they have to sharecrop it off.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trolls:
Referring to the vastly exaggerated, minimal problems of first world countries in no way brings rotting roadkill back from the abyss that its third world citizenship now assures.
@36
Feb 19th, 2015 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good news if it continues, CD. I thought it strange when the burned body showed up outside Le Parc. Has that woman Randazzo was trysting with disappeared by any chance? ;)
1. Argentina had a terrorist attack on jews over 20 years ago
Feb 19th, 2015 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 02. Agentina is STILL investigating the attack
3. Nisman claims to have evidence that supports collusion between Argentina and Iran, a terrorist nation
4. Nisman conveniently commits “SUICIDE” hours before he was to testify
5. Kirchner agrees with the suicide
6. The next day Kirchner then states it was murder
7. The trolls had not caught up to Kirchner’s recant of suicide and still claimed it was suicide
8. Kirchner’s regime claims they are Innocent
9. Argentina wants the world to believe a country the rates 107 on the corruption scale
10. The Kirchner regime is in full spin mode denouncing anyone who criticizes them
11. People protest peacefully to no avail
Violence children,…….you need to take you country back and peaceful action will only get you set on fire.
How long does it take to investigate a terrorist attack? Argentina lacks credibility for even a child to believe them.
@34 paulito
Feb 19th, 2015 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The difference between UK/US and the likes of Swiz and Dnmk is so small as to be irrelevant, especially when comparing the difference between any of those places and Arg.
Unlike you I take no pleasure in the plight of homeless/destitute people anywhere, it is a mark of how civilised a society really is, how it treats the less fortunate.
In your case, if you are in Argentina, pray, there but for the grace of God goes you.
39.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yepp, don’t know if she was the toasted fiambre, but sure enough that bitch got a warning or else.... But I couldn’t care less about a young mistress of a politician.
I think it was a message by the Intelligence services and the party that it was meant for must certainly get the point
BTW a little unconfirmed detail (yet) as being circling ... The treaty with Iran may have well hidden an exchange far more dubious and obscure than o/gs for grain.
@42
Feb 19th, 2015 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Missile tech was my impression.
43. And I would say further beyond than that... Will see soon enough
Feb 19th, 2015 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The latest deflection from the K camp is that the whole thing is about Israel and Iran fighting 'turf-wars' on Argentine soil. Thus making them out to be the 'blameless victims' of some-one else's wrongdoing...
Feb 19th, 2015 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny how often that seems to happen....
@45
Feb 19th, 2015 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bizarre.
@46 lol! weird, isn't it? Them being blameless an' all? Probably someone trying to 'destablise' them again... (yawn) ...
Feb 19th, 2015 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43 Maybe it was something to do with nuclear armament tech? Iran has long been in search of this, and Argentina is 'not allowed' to have it either. Maybe some sharing arrangement?
@47
Feb 19th, 2015 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually Argentina used to have a nuclear weapons program, and is now building a power plant on the Paraguayan border, so an exchange of warhead tech for delivery systems could be possible.
@48
Feb 19th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All things are possible in the land of make-believe...
I wonder which fictional character Cristina believes she really is?
Well off topic and a little light relief but did anyone else have this story come up on their news alerts about Argentina? I thought it was 1st April.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“An Argentine football team has replaced the tradition half-time orange pick-me-up with Viagra to help counter the effects of playing at high altitude.
Staff at Club Aletico River Plate from the Nunez area of Buenos Aires have given their players a cocktail of the anti-impotence drug, coffee and aspirin in a bid to counter the lack of air while playing at altitude.
The team made the decision after they discovered their first game of the Copa Libertadores de America was against San Jose de Oruro, a team in the city of Oruro, located more than 12,400 feet above sea level.”
But did it help them score?
50. I am sure there's a video of the locker room antics after the game. You're just not looking hard enough.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pun intended.
:)
Did it help them score… double entendre intended! Elaine! Racy for you…
Feb 19th, 2015 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34. Congratulations. What do you mean by '3rd world country'? Do you think that '3rd world country' means economically backward, poverty-stricken, undemocratic? Well, it does. But those things are only a consequence. In truth, '3rd world country' means non-aligned between the FIRST World, Western Europe, United States and allies, the SECOND World, sovs, chinks, cubans, n koreans and other slugs. Only on that basis is Chintina third-world. In terms of place in the world, argieland has a place. It's often called a cesspit. It's certainly a sewer. Not just in circumstances but also mentally.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course, argieland has its cities surrounded by its slums. A UK 'slum' consists of brick-built buildings with only one 'living' room, one 'bedroom', one kitchen, a properly fitted bath under a work surface in the kitchen and an outside toilet. And in argieland it's corrugated tin, asbestos, piss (and other things) in the street. Not to mentioned the thieved utilities.
Lucky England. Nuclear-armed. Something that cannot be said for broke Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Spain. Or indeed most of the broke EU.
England, of course, is a democratic country. The people demand it. Argieland is just a pile of shite that lies. With 'people' who have been frightened by government threats.
#18F...VOX POPULI..VOX DEI !!!!!
Feb 19th, 2015 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@52 Too, Many, Jokes.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope they keep their mind on the game, they may have trouble running with stonking great hard-ons.
@50 - Viagra? What's the need? High altitude sickness can be avoided by chewing a few coca leaves.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My understanding was that the team thought that it was a practice for the pole vaulting world cup.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has demonstrated, once again, that under the current government people can go out and march on the streets without fear--great accomplishment because it was not the case for most of our country's history. Now, let's hope the Argentine's justice system works fast to fulfill yesterday's request in the streets--find the truth about Alberto Nisman's death.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@58
Feb 19th, 2015 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, your thugs got rained out. Face it, they can't afford umbrellas and going out would have meant they would have to bathe involuntarily. ;)
http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperlaff_zpsamu9towd.gif
9 paulcedron
Feb 19th, 2015 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0dear merdopress:
1st, there were more than 400.000 people marching in b.a., not 250.000, plus hundreds of thousands in the interior.
can you provide proof....
2nd, since when julio piumato is a prosecutor?
he is a thief,
Can you prove it.....
9 paulcedron
says...
now i understand why the average islet is so clever
all they have as a source of information is this newspaper...lol
And where do you get your source of information,
CFK newsletters.....lol
Looks like the Chinese deal has hit its first bump.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bubblear.com/shady-chinese-space-station-workers-strike/
@58 Enrique
Feb 19th, 2015 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dear Enrique,
You appear to be a passionate Argentine, and a rather staunch defender of the current administration, and seem to believe that your native country is on the right track. So be it; I don't know one way or the other. However, that being the case, I am curious as to why you've elected to freeze your butt off in our current country of residence.
Far be it from me to speculate, but my guess is that it's because you live in a province that has less than 1/10th the population of Argentina, yet produces over 50% of Argentina's GDP; or a nation has a per capita GDP 300% higher than Argentina (of which less than 7% comes from the energy sector, BTW).
While GDP/GNP is certainly not an absolute or even accurate measure of quality of life; it's certainly not without some validation, and probably better than most; especially for countries that have been able to develop a diverse economy (that is, not a petro or narco state).
No one owes anyone an explanation as to why they choose to reside somewhere (and you certainly don't owe me one); but I am just curious as to why you choose to reside in Canada's most right-wing constituency, with the most brutal weather, rather than the burgeoning socialist paradise of your childhood?
Must be love?
Cheers,
Derke
62.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enrique Massot is actually more Canadian than Argentine, he only reads the BA Herald written in English, my understanding is that he doesn't even read Spanish fluently any longer, he has very little idea of what is going on in Argentina since the last 30 years or so. He was a terrorist Montonero back in the days when he fled to Canada when the military took charge in Argentina, now he is just consumed in the past and raving online about a Kirchnerist utopia that doesn’t exist and craping himself when he sneezes the useless old git.
63 CD2
Feb 19th, 2015 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem to know his history.
Is this true, or just speculation?
Troy
He acknowledged himself he left in the 70s when Videla came to power many times. After living in Canada for more than 30 years and you are as old as that you can’t possibly read your own mother tongue properly anymore. He reads the Buenos Aires Herald, FFS a paper that is meant for foreigners seeking Argentine news
Feb 19th, 2015 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is not much more to him.
I have no respect for these former Argentinians that have been living under the rule of law and capitalism in a civilized country for most of their lives coming on this board and supporting the Narco Thugs running Argentina into the ground.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It makes my physically sick.
They're disgusting worthless people.
They should have been dealt with in the 70s before they could escape.
I just can't believe this Maduro clown. I'm watching the news and just see how Caracas mayor is being arrested with no warrant whatsoever. At the same time, Maduro is talking on TV, accusing the opposition of a coup attempt, and of course, influenced by the international financial powers.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0God have mercy on Venenzuelans. It's our of their hands now.
@Troy
Feb 20th, 2015 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0For argument sakes. Would you have an estimate of what a “political refugee” since 1976 would have reaped from the Canadian State in benefits or financial assistance or whatever scheme they have there?
I could not begin to give you a figure.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Consider though -
-Social Assistance for housing and food, transportation - for indefinite period from arrival
- free translator services and legal assistance for applicants
- free legal assistance
-Free medical - unlimited - very high standard
- free vocational training
- job sponsorship
- free schooling for children
- heavily subsidised post secondary education
- unemployment insurance
- free and excellent municipal recreational facilities
- Federal old Age pension
He has done extremely well if he brought his family here and raised kids, then retired
Troy/CabezaDura2
Feb 20th, 2015 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Re: Enrique
In my humble opinion, that point is actually irrelevant. He is obviously a Canadian citizen, as he has stood for office in Alberta (by the way, his twitter account is in Spanish). His political views are most certainly the diametrically opposite of mine; but he appears to be a decent, polite gentleman; even though he has been brain-washed regarding the Falklands, but so have 40 million other Argentinians (you have to take that collective indoctrinated condition into account).
We are all immigrants; including those that came to (what is now) Canada 12-16 thousand years ago (which is 25% of my bloodline; I do not accent the concept of indigenous population). I personally don't care whether a citizen's forefathers arrived last year or last century, as long as they are honest, law-abiding and productive citizens in my collective political entity; which Mr. Massot certainly appears to be from what I have read of his publications here in Canada.
Mind you, I might not be quite as magnanimous if I was living in Argentina and being lectured by an ex-pat; but I'm not.
Derke
@58 Enrique
Feb 20th, 2015 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, in the context of your former country's history, a large, peaceful anti-govt march is something to be proud of. The larger context is not so flattering though - the 'K's credibility lies in positioning themselves as a kind of cuddly alternative to those nasty Junta types. They can't repress protests of this nature without losing much of the support they still have - it's one of the few cards they still have to play.
The good news is that this march is evidence that millions of Argentines aren't as dumb as the K's need them to be and haven't been as easily conned as you appear to have been.
His twitter is actually mostly in English.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0The point is really simple a former terrorist in Argentina, you bring him in, grant him political refugee status & give him benefits. He becomes a politician in 30 years time. LOL!
But please by all means keep him, by all means, and we can sure enough send you more like him and do us a favor.
70, 71, 72
Feb 20th, 2015 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0unfortunately, here is some of his current propaganda
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/02/19/buenos-aires-herald-falls-in-the-hands-of-a-group-close-to-cristina-fernandez#comment381723
as a politician, understanding free Democracy, you would think he would realise his hypocrisy and misleading argument...
Check my reply also please.
@72
Feb 20th, 2015 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0We already have enough socialist wannabe demagogues screwing things up here. We haven't figured out a way to separate the wheat from the chaff yet, before they get their paper (mostly because the chaff runs things). Thanks but no thanks on the offer.
@73
Point well taken.
I guess I find Mr. Massot's (relative) politeness a charming reprieve from the other vulgar trolls; as I do “Think” (now you really think I've lost it!).
Derke
73.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly he is a politician a person who aspires to be statist class wherever he can. It just shows you he has no real alliagence to Argentina nor Canada, just to himself.
Enrique Massot reminds me of the story of the 25 yo daughter of the Argentine defense minister Agustin Rossi. When she was 12 years old her mother moved to Barcelona, last year she run for the Euro parliament.
http://www.infobae.com/2014/05/24/1567197-sorpresa-la-hija-agustin-rossi-es-candidata-eurodiputada
Just think about it 25 year old. Left wing environmentalist feminist she defined herself. I define her as a parasite. Thing is she is not 65 year old as Enrique.
Every day passes I get more and more why Videla used to chuck them off the C-130
@74
Feb 20th, 2015 - 02:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually “Drink” as I like to refer to him, is pretty bad. You'd have to see it to know what I mean. ;)
http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperlaff_zpsamu9towd.gif
The smarminess from both of those Commies makes me sick.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0They both should have been taken care of in the 70s with the rest of the Commies that deserved exactly what they got.
@77
Feb 20th, 2015 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well he did seem to know who Marmaduke Grove was, maybe he is an old comrade. ;)
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@77
Feb 20th, 2015 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Couldn't disagree more; although I expect your comment is primarily frustrated hyperbole. FYI, on the political spectrum I am a hardcore fiscally conservative, but socially about as liberal as one can get.
But I've ever been a hater except when it really matters. It takes all kinds; and it'd be a pretty boring world if we all sang from the same hymn book; much more interesting here when you're not just talking into an echo-chamber and slapping each other on the back. I believe most of you all agree, as many of you complain when there are no trolls about?
I look at Tobi and Conqueror and see two sides of the same coin; much more alike than they are different. Sadly, they'll never realize it though.
Hockey game is over (Canucks in a shoot-out!); so it's off to the Legion. Have a good evening.
Cheers,
Derke
50 ElaineB ”But did it help them score?
Feb 20th, 2015 - 03:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0In the field no, in the locker room not sure.
80
Feb 20th, 2015 - 04:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0No Doctor myself but Viagra + caffeine energizing drink + aspirin + 90 minutes running in the Bolivian height sounds not a recipe for a hard-on but a massive coronary failure... But don’t worry it will never happen to Boquita, hardly anything beating in ice cold chest anyway.
As far as I know we won yesterday CabezaHueca, wrong as usual.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0#62...etc. etc.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 04:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why am I getting so much attention instead of the story we are supposed to comment on? I gather no one found a way to challenge the content of my posting. I thought we were debating ideas here--not personalities. Perhaps I was setting myself up for that by posting with my real name...
In any event, shooting the messenger is an old distraction tactic. Don't try it here--it won't work.
I will only say two things:
1. Cabeza Dura has tried hard to figure what I've been up to in the last 40 years--most of his speculations are plain wrong. For example, I was not a T. Montonero. (You are in fact entering slanderous territory here C. Dura) I am not even a Peronist, but appreciate much of what Néstor Kirchner and Cristina Fernández have done for my home country.
2. I am fluent in Spanish, spoken and written.
@75
Feb 20th, 2015 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's shocking, though, isn't it? Under Videla and co you had incompetence, corruption, and depravity, and these days you have to make do with just incompetence and corruption.
No shit. Of course you are communist and infiltrated the Peronist party under the orders of Cuba.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Terrorism: The unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
You were a terrorist or at the very least belonged to a party that had these goals.
You are 64 years old you have lived most of your life away in Canada, you cant speak and read fluently any longer.
84.
Corruption, incompitance and depravity during the military dictatorship was a fraction of what the “democratic” governments that followed it, and a drop in the Ocean compared to Kirchnerist regime.
Yawn.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0rotting roadkill, pay your debts.
@85
Feb 20th, 2015 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“A drop in the ocean”. Lol, that's a good one! What drop did you have in mind? A nun, a student, or the mother of a stolen baby, maybe?
#83
Feb 20th, 2015 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“but appreciate much of what Néstor Kirchner and Cristina Fernández have done for my home country. ”
*Does that mean you believe the end justifies the means?
* You have no compunction of what the Kirchner's did prior to politics?
* You feel pride in the pervasive corruption in Argentina at every level, in fact bribery is an SOP in order to run a business?
*Do you not feel embarrassment every time Kirchner speaks international, display her lack of intelligence, savvy and sophistication as a world leader?
They marched around the world
87.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Boo hoo, boo hoo ohhh these evil Generals of Argentina that woke up one morning and decided to throw off planes “30.000” innocent students, mothers and nuns...
Wanker
79. Thanks for telling me how I feel and for clarifying my statement for me.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The world would be a better place if “progressives” were re-educated out of existence one way or the other. This failed ideology has never worked any where any time in the history of the world. It will never work due to basic human nature. The people that think Collectivism/Statism/Socialism or whatever you want to call it are mentally sick, delusional and I think diseased. Their ways only bring disaster and ruin upon the poor and uneducated that voted them in and to the rest of Society as its dragged down with them.
The only way I see that liberalism can be tolerated is if ONLY allow the vote to people who net pay taxes into the gov't. Anyone that takes more than they give loses their right to vote until they choose not to be a drag on Society.
If that was in place I don't see the need for labor camps etc.
There will still be liberals and compassion but the people can not elect to give themselves more benefits until the system collapses. Like it has every time a Collectivist has gotten into office for an extended period of time.
There are plenty of examples.
That's your ideal of democracy? You should have spent over 30 years in the military fighting for that ideal. Where does it exist.....North Korea?
Feb 20th, 2015 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@89
Feb 20th, 2015 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ever wonder why Argentina has such difficulty in developing the rule of law and the type of democratic institutions that lead to wealth and stability?
Yep. I don't see any other for a gov't to function long term without such controls in place.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are exceptions to my “net pay in” rule though, military service is one of them.
BTW True Democracy could never work in a large country. It barely works in a small town. I do think a gov't needs to be representative but democracy is akin to mob rule and is too easily swayed by current events.
92. Because exactly the opposite, there is too much laws and State in Argentina. And what has that got to do with terrorists taking a dive into the River Plate??
Feb 20th, 2015 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@92
Feb 20th, 2015 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because it wasn't just terrorists who went into the River Plate, it was terrorists and dissenters labelled as terrorists. And until you have developed the institutions that allow dissent to be addressed without violence, you will remain a fucked-up system. Electrode enthusiasts such as yourself are as big a handicap as the K kleptocracy.
Argentina can never have a functioning society until corruption is considered something abhorrent.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i don't see that happening in any of our lifetimes.
95.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Foremost, it was people that wanted and wished to subdue constitutional order in Argentina and install a communist dictatorship. It was asymmetric war by nature there are collateral casualties. But you can’t fight a war with lawyers, NGOs and politicians on your back. Your continual failure with the Muslim terrorism is ever more the proof I need to categorically claim that Pinochet and Videla did their respective patriotic duty.
#93 sounds like a system my forefathers fought to escape. Assuming you are an American you will just have to grin and bear with the system we have. The Corporate oligarchy. USA, Inc.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Assuming I am American? Okay. Your forefathers? I'm pretty sure my family dates back farther than yours. Its pretty hard to been my American Pedigree.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We're had a lots of “systems” since your “forefathers” fought in what the Revolutionary War is it?
I wish we never would have given up landowning. poll tax or education requirements. At least those weeded out the idiots from voting.
I rather liked when State Legislators chose Senators too.
Much of what you think as The US Gov't now developed in the last 100 yrs and I think its not what was originally intended by OUR founding fathers.
TWIMC...
Feb 20th, 2015 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(Specially to those..., in any other topics than the Argentinean Reality/Islas Malvinas issue.., evidently experienced, balanced and intelligent Anglo posters as (6)&(16) Welsh Welsh Wizard, (62),(70),(74)&(79) Canadian DerkeBlake, (71) Australian Heisenbergcontext and (84),(87),(92)&(95) Engrish Hans Nielsund...
One common treat about the above mentioned, Non Turnipy Anglo posters, is their appalling one sided biased information about Argentinean reality in general and the Malvinas issue in particular...
Lads...
You sound as I would...
............................................. If I was trying to comprehend & discuss the reality of the USA in general and the Obama administration in particular by using Glenn Beck as my primary source of information..., Rush Limbaugh as my secondary source..., Bill O'Reilly as my third and Sean Hannity as my fourth...
Does anyone get my drift?
Guys...
Seriously...
Stop drinking that “empty calories” Kool-Aid and start “Thinking”
Yours
El Think
SW Chubut
Patagonia, Argentina
“Think” - the turnipy Rush Limbaugh of Argentina.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nah, The Sistahs watch MSNBC and think its news.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe they count each persona in their ratings?
That may be their trouble.
I doubt the Roberts family will keep pumping $ into that “rag” for very much longer.
@101
Feb 20th, 2015 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes he could be abusing pain meds. And if he is also drinking liquor, well, there's definitely hope for the future. ;)
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Think one thing you will never comprehend is that Americans are not sock puppets and feel into rank and file under one inferior political system.....like Argentina.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You concepts of the USA are solely based on you daily talking point and try to divide it amongst your various screen names. I say this to all who profess they are whom they are. Email me. Very simple. You all claim and demand transparency yet you all or most hide behind behind no less that two screen names.
Your concepts are primarily unconstitutional. But then so is slavery....the good old days hey yb?
@100 Think
Feb 20th, 2015 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The 'pundits' you refer to (and I'd include that psycho bitch Anne Coulter as well ) are as foreign to the average Aussie sensibility as your imagination would allow. They make us scratch our heads - seriously. It's not the best analogy IMO.
I'm happy to admit that the more I learn of your country, the less I understand.
Nisman's death is a good example - so many actors, so many agenda's, so many versions of the truth. I can't even begin to formulate a theory on what really happened. It makes my head spin. If I lived there it would probably give me a permanent case of vertigo. Your country, from my perspective, seems like a 'wilderness of mirrors' where every prominent person seems to have an agenda other than what is stated.
I honestly don't understand how you can defend Cristina though - she seems like a more vacuous version of your 'high maintenance'ex's. Can you really not see how shallow, self-centered and vain this woman is? You've lived overseas right? You'd have to be aware that her aversion to at least an occasional press conference would never be tolerated in any or 'our' nations. That specific lack of accountability alone would doom any leadership aspirations she might have had if she lived here.
As to The Falklands/Malvinas issue...I'm sure another 300+ post extravaganza article will shortly appear in these pages. In the unlikelihood anyone has anything original to contribute to the subject I may even add my two cents worth. But not now.
I just know I'm going to be dreaming of turnips tonight.
@100 Think
Feb 20th, 2015 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I must say that while Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity are all worthy of little more than risible contempt, I certainly do not insert O'Reilly into that buffoonish cabal. He stances have always revealed a more pragmatic bent than anything theoretical, dogmatic or ideological (as proven by his positions on abortion, death penalty, gay marriage, gun control, etc, which all deviate from the Fox narrative).
While his delivery and manner may come off as unnecessarily caustic, fact is, he is more often right than wrong (quite a feat on Fox). He actually has more in common with Bill Maher or Dennis Miller than those other three stooges you mention; all the while well playing to the Fox base.
What makes O'Reilly such a target (and so irritating to liberals) is that he is the only intelligent one of the bunch (regardless of whether you agree with him or not).
I'll just let the Falklands/Malvinas comments pass; to be frank, I have grown tired of the repetitive and retreaded postings on that subject (but I appreciate that there are people who haven't; good for them). No one is going to change anyone's mind on these boards. You are simply wrong (very wrong) on the issue. It's about the Islanders; it's up to them. Full stop. Period.
Cheers,
Derke
@100
Feb 20th, 2015 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I demand reinstatement as a turnip.
Like Heisenbergcontext, “I'm happy to admit that the more I learn of your country, the less I understand”. But I think I have figured out that the so-called Malvinas issue is a key element of it. You have an issue there that quite evidently makes no logical sense whatsoever, whether you approach it from the right, the left, somewhere in the middle, or by beaming down from space. I will start to think you've joined the rest of the world when you realise just why those islands aren't yours already, and why you can't have them now, but I'm not holding my breath.
Rush is an uneducated hypocritical drug addict.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0108.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only thing I can possibly say as I see it from afar is that the US was the only country in the western world that after the 2008 crisis has had a people go to the streets and asking less government instead of more government coming to do the fixing of problems, and the right of free citizens to bear arms. And as I get it I think a lot has to do with influential people like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Alex Jones or the FOX news pundits. I would prefer a million Glenn Becks or Cenk Uygurs (the ideological opposite) that go their own way and build their own business for that matter than 1 single panelist of 678 like Sandra Ruso, Barone or those filthy lapdog government media
You have that in America, I would not take that for granted.
Eventually this big media corporations vs government that has consumed Argentina for nearly 10 years is going to end, and hopefully the information market moves to free lance journalism on the web like it has done in the US.
(105) Heisenbergcontext
Feb 20th, 2015 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If those well known Yank psycho pundits are so foreign to the average Aussie sensibility... why is it then that an average Aussie seems to be getting all his information about Argentina from their Argentinean equivalents?
I have been around enough..., home and abroad..., to know a bit about those well tailored, perfectly spin doctored professional administrators void of any social conscience calling themselves politicians...
Mme. Kirchner is quite a bit different...
Besides her bi-polarity she is, by her own admission, a bit vain and self -centered... (Women... pssss...;-)
But she's also a brave lady in a near impossible job...
A job she is fulfilling much, much better than anyone else in our previous history...
Therefore she has..., if not my vote, my respect.
(106) DerkeBlake
I'm not here to change nobodies mind...
I'm here to make..., those who can..., Think.
(107) Hans Nielsund
Sorry lad...
Can't reinstate you as a full blown Turnip...
You have repeatedly shown signs of intelligence...
As a consolation..., I can assure you that I still regard you as an ill informed Engrishman about all things Argentinean...
@110
Feb 20th, 2015 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pardon my ignorance, but who exactly are these Argentinean equivalents of Yank psycho pundits? I believe I have some catching up to do.
(111) Hans NielsunD
Feb 20th, 2015 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A lazy, ill informed Engrishman about all things Argentinean..., I must add...:-)
DYOR
@112
Feb 20th, 2015 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh c'mon. Help me out here. If @109 is to be believed, even Cabeza Dura doesn't seem to know who they are.
Looks like some nasty info on CFK and minions money trail will be made public soon.
Feb 20th, 2015 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1770067-el-juez-de-nevada-quiere-liberar-la-informacion-de-la-ruta-del-dinero-k
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Singer et al were eventually compensated out of the loot CFK has stolen.
hilarious.
@90 Yankeeboy
Feb 20th, 2015 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“79. Thanks for telling me how I feel and for clarifying my statement for me.”
Sarcasm, I assume, thus my apologies for giving the benefit of the doubt on that one.
I now understand that you actually meant it when you posted that Enrique Massot and Think “should have been taken care of in the 70s with the rest of the Commies that deserved exactly what they got.”, which is what I was obviously referencing @77.
My mistake; although I personally can't comprehend killing anyone because of where they sit on the political spectrum; regardless of how far they are removed from mine.
But that's just me.
Derke
@110 Think
Feb 21st, 2015 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0The 'average Aussie' would struggle to place Argentina on the map. There's only one of my friends who seems genuinely interested when I struggle to explain what is now happening in your neck of the woods. Even my pommy ex-para, former Falklands veteran friends' eyes glaze when I start talking about the subject.
Spin doctors do what they do, it doesn't stop the truth from coming out, which is why our current PM's leadership is now practically on life support - and deservedly so IMO.
Cristina brave? Really???? If her job is nearly impossible, it's because she and her late hubby have made it so. The only reason I can believe you support this administration is because you are afraid of confronting the pain of disillusion - that yet another leader has repaid your vote with contempt.
@109 CD2
If it weren't for govt intervention BEFORE the GFC my country would've ended up in the same boat as just about every other western nation. Specifically, our Treasurer forbidding our lending institutions from establishing a sub-prime market here. Our banks exposure was thus limited, none required a single cent of tax-payers money, we only experienced one quarter of negative growth, and avoided a recession.
@116 Heisenbergcontext
Feb 21st, 2015 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0RE: @109CD2
Ditto for Canada. At the time (2002/3) I absolutely ranted against our finance minster (Paul Martin) hamstringing our banks with that legislation and forbidding mergers with the banks to our south. I was livid. Five years later, I was proven 100% wrong (sadly, not the first time; nor will it be the last, I'm certain).
@117 Derke
Feb 21st, 2015 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0”...(sadly, not the first time; nor will it be the last, I'm certain).” Lol. You & me both :).
(116) Heisenbergcontext
Feb 21st, 2015 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0I insist that, if you sincerely wish to comprehend (let alone explain to your Aussie mates) the Argentinean paradigm shift taking place as I type, you should inform yourself better, much better.
PS...:
For your kind info...
I've never voted for a winning presidential candidate in Argentina...
Not even for the runner up... :-(
But I'm seriously considering doing it this year...
(117) DerkeBlake
Strange how quick the Mandala of life sometimes turns...
Wasn't it just yesterday we mentioned that O'Reilly showman?
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/02/21/us-top-news-figure-admits-he-never-was-in-the-falklands-during-the-1982-war
“I've never voted for a winning presidential candidate in Argentina...
Feb 21st, 2015 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not even for the runner up... :-(
But I'm seriously considering doing it this year...”
And how will you arrange that? Let me guess, the “fix” is already in? ;)
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@119 Think
Feb 21st, 2015 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, I saw that. It popped on my daily Google Falklands alert about 2 minutes after my post defending him (which of I would have instantly retracted if I could).
As they say, timing is everything.
Bizarre.
Derke
@119 Think
Feb 21st, 2015 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for your touching concern re: my education. I'm having trouble seeing you as Henry Higgins though and I'm definitely no Eliza Doolittle, so forgive me if I continue to stick with what I know.
(121) DerkeBlake
Feb 21st, 2015 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Juppp......
Timing is of the essence when you are a showman...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jbtHjYW5-38
:-)))
(122) Heisenbergcontext
Don't be so touchy, mate...
As I have said before, I don' intend to educate anybody in here...
I'm just highlighting the paradigm paralysis about all things Argentinean most of you guys seem to be suffering from...
@123 Think
Feb 21st, 2015 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not 'touchy', just amused :).
#109 I am not exactly sure what you are saying?
Feb 21st, 2015 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0115. You're smarminess is tiring.
Feb 21st, 2015 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@126
Feb 21st, 2015 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe you're confusing smarminess with common decency; but I'll take it.
I (obviously) have a common affiliation and hence soft-spot for any poster on here who has the integrity (regardless of their stance on any matter) to post in their own name and location, as does Mr. Massot; and does not hide behind the false bravado provided by an anonymous keyboard.
In such circumstances, openly lamenting that such an individual was not murdered back in the day is cravenly distasteful.
How's that for smarmy.
Sounds just like your other posts so pretty good.
Feb 21st, 2015 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@123 Mr. Think
Feb 21st, 2015 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although I seldom (enthusiastically) agree with Jon Stewart's political stances, he is a great talent and I truly lament his departure from the Daily Show (my favourite show, BTW). If you watched the complete “Rumble in the AC Auditorium” however, an unbiased observer would be very hard-pressed to pick a clear winner (the tag-line “John Stewart DESTROYS Bill O'Reilly: THE DEBATE HIGHLIGHT!” on your link is ridiculous, as O'Reilly does not even speak on the clip; it was Stewart's monologue).
You can watch the whole thing here (don't fall asleep, it was rather disappointing):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQYNQuPVErg
O'Reilly (as always) deserves credit for entering the lions den (just like when he was dodging bullets in the Falklands). He certainly can't compete with Stewart's boy'ish charms.
Derke
SORRY, BUT I AM NOT NISMAN.
Feb 21st, 2015 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If many of all those people who joined the march, believe that they participated of just a homage to prosecutor nisman, i accept it, however in my opinion i think it's necesary to have coherence. I say it, because i would never participate of a march, where some of the organizers, like prosecutors plee and moldes, were denounced by the relatives of the victims of the attack of 1994, for having obstructed the cause for the covering up of that fact. What kind of justice can we expect from them, if they actually were denounced for obstructing it?, however we could see last wednesday all those cretins claiming for justice, in relation to nisman's death.
On the other hand, i won't never stop saying that although i claim for justice, in order to know whether what happened with him was a suicide or a murder, i won't omit the shameful behaviour of nisman in the amia cause, i think it's necesary to remind it once and gain, because the hegemonical press from this country, present him as if he had been a national hero, when actualy what he did with the amia case, was to act in answer to the geopolitical interests of the embassy from u. s. a. in buenos aires.
Plaza de mayo and it's sorrounded streets looked like a human carpet, however i wonder how many of all those people knew about the antecedents of some of the prosecutors who organized that march.
Pretty harsh but accurate...
Feb 21st, 2015 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The United States has been standing by now for years, ignoring Argentina’s behavior—in these and other matters—as a rogue state in our hemisphere. The latest developments demand a forceful and immediate U.S. response.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/20/the-argentina-scandal-demands-a-u-s-response.html
130 Axel
Feb 24th, 2015 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...the hegemonical press from this country, present him as if he had been a national hero, when actualy what he did with the amia case, was to act in answer to the geopolitical interests of the embassy from u. s. a. in buenos aires.”
Oh, dear. Axel does his best impression of a reasoned response, and then dies a flying leap into outer space!
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