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Judge dismisses case against Cristina Fernandez for alleged Iran cover up
Argentine federal judge Daniel Rafecas on Thursday dismissed the case against President Cristina Fernandez, in which it was claimed she, together with other officials conspired to spare Iranian officials from prosecution over the 1994 bombing of a Jewish center in Buenos Aires. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesshocking..... didn't see this coming... Nisman died for absolutely nothing.
Feb 26th, 2015 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a spineless coward.
Feb 26th, 2015 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I told you nothing would happen in the Apathetic and Pathetic excuse for a country.
Feb 26th, 2015 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They need a dictator like Pinochet to fix that place.
They're too stupid and lazy to have a representative government.
and the witch roams free......
Feb 26th, 2015 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0maybe but the day of reckoning draws ever near, as will the noose.
Feb 26th, 2015 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 02. No more words needed about him, sure the Judge Defecas has heard 900 CD's of audio in record time.
Feb 26th, 2015 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pollicita will appeal, but the judge ruling has bought the Ks critical time.
Got to feel sorry for any decent Argentines... what a completely fcuked up country.
Feb 26th, 2015 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0its worse than the script for “Whoops Apocalypse!”
They say that justice must be seen to be done,
Feb 26th, 2015 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in this case-it has not.
“President Fernandez ... is convinced Nisman's death was a killing carried out by disgruntled former intelligence agents, ... to discredit her and destabilize the Argentine government.”
Feb 27th, 2015 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0So they they worked for Mrs. K and her husband quite honestly and above board for 12 years - no dirty tricks, no blackmailing judges or extorting political opponents - and then suddenly, one day, they went crazy...
No wonder there are so many psychoanalysts in Buenos Aires.
That pillock is most certainly in her pocket... The blind leading the blind.... Spiralling out of control....
Feb 27th, 2015 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Yes, Madame President, I have received the U$D 1 M into my account, pleased to help.”
Feb 27th, 2015 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Would go the unheard conversation.
Surprise surprise ...
Feb 27th, 2015 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Next thing they will say is that AMIA destruction was not because of an attack but a defective construction ...
Corruption and impunity runs before our eyes, and we act like if it was the most common thing in the world. It should not be that way.
@10. I'm sure that Judge Rafecas had the best interests of the argie judicial system at heart. It would hardly promote confidence if judges started suiciding, driving their cars into trees at high speed, or plunging into the nearest harbour. It must be remembered that Rafecas didn't want to hear the case. He had to be told to do it. Isn't that strange? In how many proper countries do judges get to decide which cases they will deal with if their schedule permits. I can imagine “Can't deal with case Y because I'm already lined up for case X”. But not “Don't want to”. Shall we use our imagination? A word to the President of the Supreme Court. Then Ricardo calls Daniel and says “Good idea to lose this one”.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just as a thought. One single person says “None of the two hypotheses of a crime put forward by prosecutor Pollicita in his writ stand up to the minimum level of scrutiny,” Here's a thought, Danny boy, a special prosecutor was murdered to shut him up. Try a minimum level of scrutiny on that!
“President Fernandez ... is convinced Nisman's death was a killing carried out by disgruntled former intelligence agents, ...
Feb 27th, 2015 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0to discredit her and destabilize the Argentine government.”
Today, the documents Nisman filed 'failed to meet standards needed to open a formal court investigation'.
And now he is dead.
Hundreds of thousands of concerned Argentinians think that CFK and Rafeca's behaviour stinks, and they are prepared to go on the streets to say so.
These are the THINKING Argentinians.
It would not surprise me to see a public Mussolini-type 'stringing-up';
but I would not like to see them suffer a Jihadi-John head-cutting-off ...
that is just bad form.
Would you proceed knowing you are signing your own death warrant?
Feb 27th, 2015 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure the incriminating documents have been disappeared.
The good news is there is big trouble in the K's camp. Lot's of in fighting going on. Excellent.
Stooge.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many conspiracies crumble with the confirmation by a member of the judiciary that prosecutor Alberto Nisman's denunciation was smoke and mirrors; the theory that the government had sent to kill a dangerous opponent with damning information now looks totally out of place.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, many questions remain about the whole story. What would push an experienced prosecutor to put together such a botched document?
What was discussed between Nisman and Jaime Stiuso; Lagomarsino and legislators Patricia Bullrich and Laura Alonso, all of them talking to Nisman on the phone in the days and hours that preceded Nisman's death?
This mystery novel is just beginning.
Actually, Enrique, you are wrong. I certainly expected this to happen. The Judiciary in Argentina has already been riddled with K shills, they just don't have complete control. Yet. As for the “evidence” you keep citing and printed by Clarin, well, it was released by the government after being filtered. We will never see or hear the originals, it's already gone.
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(17) Mr. Massot
Feb 27th, 2015 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As usually......... I'm in agreement with you.
The joke of the judiciary in Argentina knows no bounds.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've long said that the law is whatever the Prez says it is and woe to anyone who says otherwise.
NarKos through and through
Buenos Aries will look like Caracas very soon.
The joke of the executive in the USA knows no bounds.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some Yanks have long said that if the President does it then it is not illegal...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hIGYnDCPaQM
Corrupt criminals through and through...
Watchington.., our modern days Sodom & Gomorrah...
900 hours of audios in 13 days... working non stop since 13/02 he listened to 312 hours of conversations.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ohh but then Rafecas ruling was writen in January and not by him---
http://www.urgente24.com/237136-la-falencia-del-ultimo-parrafo-de-rafecas-evidencia-que-el-no-lo-escribio
By the end of this year Argentina should be considered the 5 most corrupt country in the world after NK,VZA, Somalia and Afghanistan
As we are doing random links today:
Feb 27th, 2015 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93LhBXwcTw4
Based on your refutable quote think.......please tell us what happened to him? The same that should happened to cunt lips kirchner.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I realize the disappointment of those who rabidly oppose CFK's government and were readying its coffin on the belief that prosecutor Alberto Nisman's accusation and his subsequent death could work as two plus two at the public opinion level.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, here we are, back at square one. I will speculate this whole affair may backfire when more evidence on Nisman's last days and hours comes to light and those who were constantly contacting him are more closely scrutinized.
Judge Rafecas' ruling was the only one possible in light of an amateurish document that reads more as wishful thinking than as a collection of serious evidence.
As the opposition now requests, prosecutor Pollicita is going to appeal Rafecas' ruling. In his own recycled accusation, Pollicita had already opened the umbrella by requesting a whole lot of new investigations to flesh out the accusation (he knew Nisman's document was lacking real evidence) and by stating that no crime was necessary--just intention sufficed (he knew well that none of Nisman's claims had been fulfilled).
Perhaps CFK and Timerman dreamed about it all and this will be their crime?
Enrique, you've got to be kidding. I figured she'd be changing the constitution before that happened, but failing that she could just have Maximo Gordo run and rig the election. Remember, rigging the elections is a time honored tradition since the early republic, so it's no big deal. ;)
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23. Fantastic find.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sistah, If Argentina had the corruption of the USA you wouldn't be sinking into yet another abyss.
I can't wait until there are riots over the last bag of beans in BA.
I will laugh and laugh.
Well...if this were true, then the Kirchnerism would have never lost any election--and in fact they have lost several since being in power.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But then again, you can come back and say “oh yes, they lose some to show they respect democracy...” and so on.
“Rigging the elections is a time honoured tradition...” imoyaro says at #26.
Again, it's an easy argument--when an election results do not please us, just say “they rigged it.” However, the statement is a stretch. Much to the contrary, there is no evidence of widespread electoral fraud in Argentina, either denounced or proved.
Now, if you ask me, I would say the closest to an attempt to change electoral results with dirty tactics would be the frenetic efforts of the opposition to link the government to the recent death of a prosecutor who had issued a cover up accusation.
(24) Captain Poppy
Feb 27th, 2015 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do please tell me what happened with PresidentNixon...
Did they confiscate his fortune?
Did he do porridge?
Do you REALLY want to compare President Nixon with President Kirchner?
As far as I'm informed, President. Kirchner did never send hordes of stoned young foot soldiers to kill babies in Viet Nam..., nor ordered her heroic Airforce pilots, high on amphetamines, to bomb and kill ~two million innocent people in Laos and Cambodia..., two completely defenceless Countries that did NEVER attack nor declare nor wish war on the USA...
You are old enough to know that..
@17, 25, 28. What a shame. Twinky-winky agrees with you. Proving that you are a total twat.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@29. Who sent hordes of stoned young soldiers to die on the Falkland Islands for political purposes? Who sent dumb airforce pilots to attack a legal relief force? So stupid on what? Because it couldn't fuse weapons. What a shame that you miss that Vietnamese forces used Laos and Cambodia. But then you're thick enough to think that we are. It's why Britain will always annihilate you. Perhaps it's time to learn to die!
Judge Defecas just by mathematical fact couldn’t possibly have impartially sentenced anything in 13 days.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine justice is a fucking joke.
Enrique and Think shouldn't have being thrown off Hercules, they should be impaled aliave on 20 mt long pikes up their arses and bleed to death like Vlad would have done. Those scumbags make me sick. What a fucking waste of oxigen these Ks are.
Think.....no wonder you are referred to as stink. OH.....here comes the foul mouth. You are by far the dumbest fucking wetback wannabe. A pacifist now who's government intentionally targeted nuns to toss out of helicopters. You are not a pacifist.....so why pretend. Have you never heard that nits grow into lice? Kirchner is no different than Nixon.....bother criminals.....only Nixon did not rob and pillage his countryman or kill his opposition......just spy on them. And kirchner can only send your pathetic military out against Argentines because anyone else will fight back and you would have another mass surrender. Only no one would be crying foul because you got incompetent sailors killed like the Belgrano........image Britain's nerve of sinking a fucking relic of a ship in a war....the nerve. It's a shame they all didn't die. No......as much as she would love to invade......she is smart enough to know her military is staffed by Argentines.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 031. Beware of the wrath of dirk diggler of western Canada.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He thinks all ideals are valid and worthy and their bearers must be respected.
Fool that he is.
Don't worry the NarKos and their fillets days are numbered.
Look to Venezuela for your immediate future.
A few eggs will be broken before the omelette is made.
@31
Feb 28th, 2015 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seriously, CD you can't throw tradition out of the airplane. That's hardly the Argentine way. The heads should be chopped off and put on display, either in a cage or on a pike. You know, like Dorrego. Or Ramirez. Or Acha, Or Penaloza. Or all the victims of the “Mas Horcas” treated similarly. Always remember. “The Old Ways Are Best.” (I know Chopper would agree.) ;)
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It's fascinating the amount of hatred and the caliber of the insults spewed by the Old Wives Club in this board.
Feb 28th, 2015 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0On the other hand, I understand their deep disappointment after Judge Rafecas' decision to throw out Nisman's denunciation.
They were already salivating in the belief the scandal would make the coming national election a walk in the park for the opposition.
Too bad the situation is beginning to reverse. Ongoing investigation on those who were in close contact with Nisman in his last days on earth may prove interesting and backfire on the opposition.
And we all know that, without a nice and opportune scandal, the next election results are all but certain. Why? Because all the available candidates are too elitist, too reactionary. They can't hide their haste to destroy all the social advancement policies put in place by the Kirchners. The opposition has made no secret it will pay the vultures no matter what happen to the country.
Many electors are already wary of threats to end the Universal Child Allocation, of further indebtedness and IMF-mandated austerity measures designed to send resources out of the country.
Ah the good old times when all of this could be fixed in 24 hours with the tanks and the troops, “estado de sitio” and mass murdering. Damned democracy! Seems to have taken hold in the country. (Too bad, gringos).
Actually, Henrique, glad to see you are back. My post is meant as dark humor. You were talking about electoral fraud and saying it was not normal.My point is it was. That is what Yrigoyen's reform was all about, and you know what they did to him. A number of trolls here assume I do not know Argentine history, sadly I do. While local elections go one way or another it is the election for the federal government (based in BA,) that is what matters, since after the Unitarian victory, that is where the power is. ;)
Feb 28th, 2015 - 04:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@35
Feb 28th, 2015 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It's fascinating the amount of hatred and the caliber of the insults spewed by the Old Wives Club in this board.”
You say with an insult, so you are no better.
“On the other hand, I understand their deep disappointment after Judge Rafecas' decision to throw out Nisman's denunciation.”
You cannot seriously be so naive to believe evidence has not been tampered with and that this decision is political, not judicial.
“all the available candidates are too elitist”
You don't think CFK is elitist? Seriously? What about all her contemptuous remarks about Argentina and the poor. If you have been paying attention you would have seen the pattern. Her waving her Rolex-encased wrist at the poor does not make her defender of the poor. It makes her a populist leader throwing crumbs to the desperate and manipulating them.
It is probably as a result of your age that you are forming this utopian image of your long-forgotten place of birth. It is quite normal in advanced age to want to return to the place of your birth. Why not try it? I have spent a LOT of time in Argentina over the last five or so years and your fantasy version bears no resemblance with the truth of life there.
Why not visit?
And before you label me a hater, I am immensely fond of Argentina and the friends I have there. But I haven't been brainwashed with Nationalism and can see the reality. It is because I am fond of the place that I long to see the back of the thieving, arrogant K's.
(35) Sr. Massot
Feb 28th, 2015 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Because all the available candidates are too elitist, too reactionary...”
I say...:
Not all, Ché...
My candidate, Mr. Hermes Binner ain't...
But some of the political allies he is forced to work with to reach power certainly are...
That's why..., after careful consideration..., I Think I'll vote for the winning Presidential candidate this time..., that is..., Daniel Scioli...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Scioli
elaine, Many of our resident K apologists have not been to Argentina since they fled in the 70s.
Feb 28th, 2015 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's why their delusional visions of a country we both know well don't mesh with the reality we know as factual.
So The NarKos have wiped out the Arg secret service and replaced them with Campora minions.
I guess that way the intent all along.
Filthy NarKos
They'll get what they deserve in the end.
I am sure of it.
@38
Feb 28th, 2015 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ I Think I'll vote for the winning Presidential candidate this time..., that is..., Daniel Scioli...”
Like I said before, “The Fix Is In.” ;)
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@39. It does seem that way. I guess if I had not set foot in England for a couple of decades I would have a skewed view of the place and we have some balanced media to reference. I would probably think it was all Miss Marple, cricket teas and skiffing on the river.
Feb 28th, 2015 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I really feel for the Argentine people when there are so many supporters of such a corrupt and contemptuous government. Supporters that don't have to suffer the consequences on a daily basis. Amongst my varied contacts and friends in Argentina, even the most die-hard supporters of the K's now see them for what they really are.
41. That support has been rented and as soon as the payments stop coming...and they will that is assured...the support will turn against them.
Feb 28th, 2015 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She's set up the next gov't to fail and put in enough people so that she thinks she'll be protected while she's out of office.
but I don't think so
#37 ElaineB:
Feb 28th, 2015 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. “You say with an insult, so you are no better.”
You are right. I should not have insulted anybody posting here. Please accept my apologies.
2. “You cannot be so naive...”
I know I cannot know the true on everything at 100 per cent. I just try to consult as many and as diversified sources as I can to form my own opinion. I trust that's pretty much what country residents do--it would be physically impossible to have first-hand knowledge on all that goes on in the country.
3. “I am immensely fond of Argentina and the friends I have there.”
I appreciate your feelings for my home country and your desire to see it in better shape. I am with you on that, even if we may differ on the best way to reach that goal. Also, I long to visit my home country and will travel there as soon as I can.
I will take from that non answer QuiQue has not been there since he fled like a rat to save his worthless hide in the 70s.
Feb 28th, 2015 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know more about “his homeland” than he does.
Much more.
Looks like Drink is having an impact on the government. Like Smokey says... ;)
Mar 01st, 2015 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/183166/head-of-national-fire-management-dismissed-after-chubut-fire
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/183166/head-of-national-fire-management-dismissed-after-chubut-fire
#44
Mar 01st, 2015 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fleeing in the face of the bad deeds of the Argentinian military - indeed any military - may be 'fleeing like a rat', but it is really sensible. Ask the Christians now fled to Jordan/Turkey.
My ex-partner fled from Brasil and I never blamed her for being pragmatic.
46. The Christians weren't trying to over throw the gov't and got caught.
Mar 01st, 2015 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My bet is Quique whet from conviction to cowardice pretty darn fast when he got on someone's list.
Just like the rest of our K apologist Commies that live in the safe warm embrace of Capitalism of their new country.
#38 Think:
Mar 01st, 2015 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the end, what counts is respect for the democratic process. I saw a good part if not all the opposition jumping to the bandwagon of Nisman's death and thought it would be a pity if a presidential election had been played on an artificial political scandal. The electors deserve the possibility of evaluating projects presented by the parties. However, the real world of politics being what it is, we all know that dirty tricks will continue to be played from here to Oct. 23 and beyond. One is out for now though and that's good.
BTW, I love your province. I hitchhiked through it in 1969, worked in a farm in El Bolsón, enjoyed the lakes in Esquel, camped in Puerto Pirámides, ate torta galesa in Rawson, and drank the special vino del valle del rio Chubut...unforgettable.
48. Clearly you have no idea how corrupted the elections process is in Argentina.
Mar 01st, 2015 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCsCNHDSUPI
Inform yourself
(48) Fellow former mochilero...
Mar 01st, 2015 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Te acordás, hermano?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y1ObkNXDs7M
“In the end, what counts is respect for the democratic process.”
Mar 02nd, 2015 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like in Cuba and Venezuela? Argentina is not far off.
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