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Argentine Congress approves 'strategic integral alliance' agreements with China
Despite the strong questioning from the opposition, the manufacturers' lobby and many unions, the Argentine ruling coalition mustered sufficient votes in the Lower House to pass the controversial package of cooperation, economic and investment agreements between Argentina and China. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesselling their country's future down the toilet, then clapping for dead man.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone else notice the similarity to Venezuela...? Boy are these guys in for a rough ride... Hello Argentine people... Time to wake up... Smell the Mate'... F'Witt's... How stupid can they really be ??? SAD!!!
Feb 27th, 2015 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0A pompous name for a serious b*ttf*ck ...
Feb 27th, 2015 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We are facing a clear abandonment of Argentine manufacturing to the benefit of Chinese production and technology”
Feb 27th, 2015 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0('dissident') lawmaker Felipe Solá.
Argentina gives its country to the Chinese.
I was accused of 'paranoia' by Think et al a few years back when I said it was as clear as day to me that this would happen.
#5
Feb 27th, 2015 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0I predict that China will own Argentina in 25 years.
Had no other choice for Argentina. Argentina was forced to do this.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good luck Argentina!
#6 thats not true, they have many choices, and always make the wrong ones digging the hole deeper with every dumb choice. They are now creating tomorrows mess before your eyes. Remove Greisa/Singer and insert “Chinese” in todays headlines and you will be reading the paper from 2016.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6
Feb 27th, 2015 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brasso, you sound like you realize this is a bad thing. I thought you advocated that all SA countries ally with China.
http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperlaff_zpsrpl58kjd.gif
When you are a beggar you can not choose.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6. Forced? That would be the same as Brazil being 'forced' to host the World Cup and the Olympic Games. Here's a thought. The 2014 World Cup led to, amongst other things, demonstrations and 8 deaths. Then there were the riots. Super-wealthy Brazil spent much, much more than US$14 billion. Just a small event involving only 31 teams. Next year, super-wealthy Brazil will host the 2016 Summer Olympic Games. Compared to the 12 venues for the World Cup, Rio 2016 will have 35. So far US$29.6 billion is being invested. There will be 306 events in 28 sports. It is 'hoped' that more than 205 nations will compete. Just imagine. For the World Cup, about 620 'competitors' at most. In 2012 there were 10,500 competitors. By the time it's over, Brazil will be broke. And probably broken as well. Perhaps Brazil should have asked someone how much it might all cost. Especially since London didn't have construct most of the necessary infrastructure. Anybody want to bet on how close to US$50 billion the Olympics will cost Brazil? And how will the people feel about that? More than 60% of the country's GDP being spent on a vanity project. But there was 'no choice'. Brazil was 'forced' to do this!
Feb 27th, 2015 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But now there are 'better' bits. Who will fly personnel in? The People's Liberation Army Air Force? Or will it be shipped by the People's Liberation Army Navy? Who'll be transporting the parts of the space station? Together with the necessary military personnel. Will China want its own port(s)? Its own airbase(s). Appropriate 'projects' get Chinese military security personnel.
When will Brazil wake up and find that China is next door?
Because Argentina are allowing China to build a potential military base in Neuquen , the British military presence in the Falklands will increase in order to monitor the Chinese .
Feb 27th, 2015 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Chile will invite the Americans to build a monitoring station on the mainland .
Popcorn , anybody ?
I remember some Argentineans saying my country was a colony of China and would soon be controlled by them...... guess we negotiate much better.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll suffer US troops over Chinese AAAAANNNYDAAAAYY!
lucky for the rest of the world that CFK laughs at the Chinese like she does her own poeple.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some time ago, the Argentine opposition were crying out loud the “isolation” of the country. That was one of the reasons they argued the country had to pay what the vultures asked.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course, now that the country makes productive agreements with one of the new world's emerging superpowers, everybody in the opposition shouts “dependency,” although many of them seemed to have no problem whatsoever with dependency from the U.S.
Of course Enrique, now that the country makes productive agreements with one of the world's emerging superpowers THAT IS RULED BY A TOTALITARIAN FASCIST REGIME!!
Feb 27th, 2015 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Such a typically ingnorant peroncho, I bet you would have supported this very same type of a deal with the Nazis ... one of the world's emerging superpowers at the time ...
Go back to your cave you Monto expat!
14 Enriques
Feb 27th, 2015 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Some time ago, the Argentine opposition were crying out loud the “isolation” of the country.”
Enriques, do you mind reading over your statement again.
It is not clear whether you are saying the Opposition is for or against isolationism.
Isn't Isolationism a traditionally, Peronist platform?
Do you not agree that voters or Parties can call for honouring their debts and legal commitments, while at the same time protesting an unbalanced trade deal that does nothing to help the labour force, and sells your commodities cheaply in a long term contract?
Certainly the critics of the government are being very prudent and responsible, wanting Argentina's bondholder debts paid, and not entering into a userous agreement with another lender.
All countries trade and do deals,
Feb 27th, 2015 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but CFK takes the biscuit,
so many deals , so many agreements,
despite the fact that she will be gone very soon,
strange then is it not, that she sell her country to China,
whilst living the limelight until her retirement,
and Argentina will suffer her deals for decades to come,
Chinetina may well become a new state...lol
Has anyone told the UN Decolonization committee that Argentina is becoming a Chinese colony?
Feb 27th, 2015 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For that matter, has anyone told the people in Argentina...?
A day of mourning for South America. The end of Western decadence! A country proud of his genealogy, destroyed by dark values of Western capitalism.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From today the world changes. Or the West is fucked!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUd-_WkFd7I&index=1&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A
Force Visigoths!
@5 Clyde haha
Feb 27th, 2015 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I predict that next year China will own Argentina in 24 years time.....
@6
“Had no other choice for Argentina. Argentina was forced to do this.”
Ever heard of the expression' flom the flying pan into the flire'?
Just a word of warning to the Argentines, not that I care. I visit the Costa Blanca in Spain quite a lot and there is a chinese supermarket warehouses literally on every street corner. They sell everything you can think of and I mean everything under one roof, every piece of crap you can think of. There are no Spanish retailers anywhere, the only place the Spanish can sell anything is at the Saturday markets.
Feb 27th, 2015 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its great for the Brits, not so good for the Spanish and not so good for you.
Pete, have you seen the video?
Feb 27th, 2015 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a difference between isolationism, engagement and selling out.
Feb 28th, 2015 - 03:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chinese over British/European/or North American ANYTIME, EVERY TIME, ALL THE TIME.
Feb 28th, 2015 - 04:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why does that bother everyone so much? Why can't the Chinese be liked, or the Anglo/NorthAmoan/EUian disliked?
Chinese over British/European/or North American ANYTIME, EVERY TIME, ALL THE TIME.
How are the Chinese different ?
Feb 28th, 2015 - 05:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0aren't they the embodiment of evil, as much as the other races you despise, with Mao's halocausts??
I never said they were perfect, they are foreigners after all.
Feb 28th, 2015 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0But at least they kept their genocide to themselves and didn't go around other continents peforming it!
What about the non-foreigners, your own people, the Argentines- and their halocaust of the Desert??
Feb 28th, 2015 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0The people and culture displaced had lived in Patagonia as their homeland for thousands of years.
the defenders of the Argentine Patagonian say it was not a crime, as they were only Chilean indigenous Amerindian people inhabiting the area.
The argy only wants to know the good bits, and sod the bad bits,
Feb 28th, 2015 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0that's ok,
it aint us that will come back to bite you .lolol
China the future Argentine is your new toy....
#26
Feb 28th, 2015 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well, when they finally take over Argentina you will find out.
26 Tobi
Feb 28th, 2015 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In many ways, a Chinese dominated Argentina will be better for you.
The Chinese will not discriminate between Argentines and Jewish Argentines, like your own people do, today.
@26
Feb 28th, 2015 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“But at least they kept their genocide to themselves and didn't go around other continents peforming it!”
Maybe the Russians would have something to say about that. Once again Chopper demonstrates that History is not his strong suit. ;)
26. Cumbucket pagination boi......when did you turn away from freedom and democracy and decode totalitarianism is good for Argentina? When your parents moved out of argentina?
Mar 01st, 2015 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do hope that the one habit I like from the Chinese is brought to Argentina.
Mar 01st, 2015 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hang corrupted politicians
bankrupt their families
That will solve a lot of problems in Argentina.
A lot
Argentina will change beyond recognition when the Chinese take over,
Mar 01st, 2015 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nostrils
Mar 01st, 2015 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China will own ARGENTINA within 25 years.
That might be good for you - China won't discriminate between Argentininians and Jewish Argentines!!
What is all this objection and complaints about China in Argentina? I still don't get it really.
Mar 02nd, 2015 - 05:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like a can of jealousy that it isn't the USA, or UK, or Spain, or any of the other washed-out old timers this time getting a crack at it.
36 NOSTRILS
Mar 02nd, 2015 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have you heard any of us say, don't go??
Nope. You owe us a whole lot of money, and nobody wants to flush more down the toilet.
Enjoy your Socislist Paradise !
Once Dilma is gone, and Brazil has sloughed off MercOsur, the albatross around its neck, we'll have a better trading partner.
#36
Mar 02nd, 2015 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0You hate all foreigners and wish Argentina to be isolated from the rest of the world and yet you seemingly approve of China “investing” -(actually buying freehold)-in your country ?
How do you square this circle?
Sounds like a can of jealousy
Mar 02nd, 2015 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A bit like you lot and the Falkland's then...
@36
Mar 02nd, 2015 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“What is all this objection and complaints about China in Argentina? I still don't get it really. ”
You have not seen me complain, only laugh. What you have seen me post is that now the US will have Argentine soil targeted with nuclear warheads, specifically that base, but who knows, maybe BA will rate as events proceed. ;)
http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperlaff_zpsrpl58kjd.gif
Toby, you're a foreigner also.......lol.
Mar 02nd, 2015 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@36
Mar 03rd, 2015 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0“What is all this objection and complaints about China in Argentina?”
There aren't any complaints-if you want China there that's your business. However, if the Chinese are building things with their money and bringing in Chinese workers, what's that going to do for Argentine workers and businesses?
Argentina need not have got into debt-it is comparible with someone who cannot control spending, cannot pay back and is in hoc to money lending companies that take everything.
The irony is that Argentina complains about the Falklands being a colonial situation (when the Islanders don't agree that it is-and don't have to sell themselves to anyone to get by), and yet Argentina will now be colonised economically by the Chinese.
India was an example of the UK colonising economically, and then expanding that colonialism leading to India gaining independence in 1947.
And yet Argentina are allowing themselves to be colonised by China!
However if Argentina is happy with that, fine, it might stop them whinging about the 'Malvinas Myth', 'Engleesh colonialism'.etc etc.
I think, Pete, that Argentina is like an addict in a casino playing the tables - they will keep playing until totally bust.
Mar 03rd, 2015 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not a lot of hope, but still hoping.
But the history of China in the Americas also includes the building of the railroads in 'the USA' and today's massed populations of Chinese in the North West and California.
I think we will see vast migrations of the Chinese to 'better' territories - because that's what animals do when the imperative comes upon them.
We may well be able to restrict their numbers in the UK and Europe, but it will not be so easy in South America and Africa. Oceania will go Chinese.
It is just the logic of numbers - billions of Chinese need somewhere to go .
billions of Chinese need somewhere to go .
Mar 03rd, 2015 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0well,
Argentina is a big country, plenty of open space...
Argentina once again, like in WWII seems to have chosen poorly......surprise, surprise:
Mar 04th, 2015 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine savior:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/as-china-lawmakers-meet-expect-gdp-target-cut-more-easing-2015-03-02
Also not good for you and China:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/as-china-lawmakers-meet-expect-gdp-target-cut-more-easing-2015-03-02
Canada exceeds expectations:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/as-china-lawmakers-meet-expect-gdp-target-cut-more-easing-2015-03-02
More news to prove a stupid decision(what else is new) from Argentina.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/as-china-lawmakers-meet-expect-gdp-target-cut-more-easing-2015-03-02
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/as-china-lawmakers-meet-expect-gdp-target-cut-more-easing-2015-03-02
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/as-china-lawmakers-meet-expect-gdp-target-cut-more-easing-2015-03-02
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/as-china-lawmakers-meet-expect-gdp-target-cut-more-easing-2015-03-02
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/as-china-lawmakers-meet-expect-gdp-target-cut-more-easing-2015-03-02
And one more..( there are so many to chose from)
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/as-china-lawmakers-meet-expect-gdp-target-cut-more-easing-2015-03-02
How will Argentina's savior China save Argentina when China is flushing themselves down the toilet? As US and European businesses leave China in an exodus, maybe South America will send all the manufacturing to China to save China's economy so China can save South America.......lol
All the trolls are on here professing their love of the Chinese , yet when periodic riots start the first shops they attack and loot are ?
Mar 04th, 2015 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Chinese ones , of course .
So true, they despise the fact that the Chinese speak Chinese in Argentina. When they do speak Spanish, they ridicule their pronunciation at the highest levels.
Mar 05th, 2015 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When will the Argies start to blame the subversive, Chinese “Mandarins” ( equiv. of “Sepoys”) for economic failures or natural disasters, or industrial accidents??
Mar 05th, 2015 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 14 Enrique Massot who writes: “... now that the country makes productive agreements with one of the new world's emerging superpowers, ...”
Mar 08th, 2015 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0You cannot possibly mean that rubbish?
If you do, then I pity you, because China has millennia of experience of how to delude opponents and alleged friends.
Argentina is destined to become the next Tibet.
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