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One of the mightiest of WW2 battleships discovered 70 years after it was sunk
American billionaire Paul Allen has announced the discovery of the famous World War Two Japanese battleship, the Musashi, more than 70 years after it was sunk by US forces. Mr, Allen said the vessel was found by his private exploration team. It was at a depth of more than 1km on the floor of the Sibuyan Sea off the Philippines. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesStill probably in better nick than half of Argentina's navy.
Mar 06th, 2015 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0USS Phoenix (CL-46), a Brooklyn-class light cruiser, fought at that battle, (She was also at Pearl in December '41) from wiki...
Mar 06th, 2015 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the battle of Leyte Gulf, Phoenix was a unit of Rear Admiral Jesse Oldendorf's group which annihilated the Japanese Southern Force in the battle of Surigao Strait. Phoenix fired four spotting salvoes, and when the fourth hit, opened up with all of her 6” (152mm) batteries. The target later proved to be Yamashiro, which sank after 27 minutes of concentrated fire from the American fleet. The Japanese also lost Fusō and three destroyers in the battle, and American planes sank Mogami the next day.
Phoenix then patrolled the mouth of Leyte Gulf to protect Allied positions on shore. On the morning of 1 November 1944, ten enemy torpedo-bombers attacked her and accompanying ships. At 0945, Phoenix opened fire and five minutes later, Claxton was hit by a kamikaze. Almost at the same instant, hits from Phoenix 's 5 in (130 mm) guns set another plane afire but could not prevent it from diving into the starboard bow of Ammen. At 0957, a plane making a torpedo run on Phoenix was shot down by the ship's machine-gun fire, but in a few minutes a bomber hit Killen.
Stand by for twinning ceremony between survivors of the Belgrano and the Musashi .........
Mar 06th, 2015 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then again , the Japanese and the Chinese have a dispute over insignificant islands too , so maybe Cristina won't want to upset her Chinese masters by having a twinning ceremony with Jpanese veterans.
@2. Sorry? I don't see any mention of the Musashi. Why wouldn't you mention the torpedo from the Avenger from the USS Intrepid? Then the further attacks from Helldivers and Avengers? Hellcats and Helldivers from the USS Essex and Lexington? USS Franklin and Cabot?
Mar 06th, 2015 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, I get it. The USS Phoenix (CL-46). Given away to argieland. Renamed. Sunk by a British nuclear-powered submarine using WW2-era torpedos. Trying to improve its 'heritage'? Don't worry. It WAS just a lump of metal.
USA rules the waves.
Mar 06th, 2015 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I went to school with a fellow who built a model by Tamiya of Yamato. When finished and painted it did look impressive.
Mar 06th, 2015 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0His family name was Suzuki a relation he said of Jiro Horikoshi who designed the Zero.
It's a war grave, remember that and treat it with the respect due to it.
Mar 06th, 2015 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#5
Mar 06th, 2015 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes they do and the waves rule Argentina's navy. They sink if they meet one.
Sometime go to one of the USA navel bases and take some tours of the MIGHTY USA NAVY SHIPS. They are IMMENSE and oh so powerful.
Mar 06th, 2015 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was lucky enough to tour a bunch last year and was flabbergasted.
We just need more of them.
Maybe the next Prez will re-build our Navy
As long as we are on the subject take a look at what the laser technology did to this truck:
http://www.livescience.com/50064-laser-weapon-stops-truck.html
Cool.
USA USA USA
Any chance we could lease a couple. We do have some experience and I'm sure recruiting some Jacks won't be a problem.
Mar 07th, 2015 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0FFS UK, get our carriers to sea and build some more type 45's.
Two comments:
Mar 07th, 2015 - 03:01 am - Link - Report abuse 01. I think it is fantastic that this very wealthy man has invested his time and money to add to the whole world's knowledge of historical fact, and maybe add some closure for the families of those that died.
2. I hope he will treat it as the 'War Grave' that it is, and not do something ghastly with his findings.
These men should be left to Rest In Peace.
#10
Mar 07th, 2015 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0The answer is no. We have no money and the navy is having a tough time finding recruits.
Have to agree I too hope that it is treated with respect as a war grave.
Mar 07th, 2015 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank You Steve R.
Mar 08th, 2015 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0It was a long time ago, and I am sure those young men fought for something they believed in, rightly or wrongly, as history may judge.
Hindsight is an easy route for many out there, (not you!), and I expect it was very different for an 18-year-old Japanese guy raised on a diet of imperialistic propaganda.
Sad, but unfortunately necessary, that they had to die.
We should not forget these lessons from history.
The Japanese haven't.
I hope it it is treated with respect. They had mothers too.
#14
Mar 08th, 2015 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, the Japanese turned pacifist BUT their history of the second world war omits any reference to death camps or murders of populations in China or Korea.
They have yet to come to terms with this part of their history.
@15
Mar 09th, 2015 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, you are quite correct. The 'war history' taught in Japanese schools also omits any reference to the thousands of 'comfort-women' or chinese sex-slaves rather, that were raped by the Japanese officers during their campaign in the 1930/40s.
However, their general behaviour has vastly improved since August 6th & 9th, 1945....
If you know what I mean...
@5 Vestige: “ USA rules the waves”.
Mar 10th, 2015 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0... and England waives the rules. (The ex-Phoenix was out of the
“exclusion zone” and moving away from it , right...?)
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