Animal rescue centers in California are being inundated with stranded, starving sea lion pups, raising the possibility that the facilities could soon be overwhelmed, the federal agency coordinating the rescue said. Read full article
Ah, the famous Anglo conservation at work once again I see! The one the tossers on this board claim is so superior to Argentine conservation.
Just like in New Zealand with the Maui dolphin.
Don't birds fall from the sky in the USA west coast too? Why would anyone be shocked by this? It's not like world's biggest garbage dump is off the USA coast...
Excuse me, but I seem to remember you stating in print here that you wanted Ebola to spread. You have been advocating mayhem across the world, not to mention car burnings. Why would any sentient being pay attention to the tripe you post. It's time we eliminated the Ucumars, purely as matter of self defense, you understand... ;)
A brilliant piece of academic research again. You should be recommended for a Nobel prize for your incisive insight.
Because of rising sea temperatures the sea lions food source has shifted.
Obviously the fault of the wicked Americans.
I suppose the el nino effect is the fault of the wicked S.Americans
I am sure that this will be a natural phenomenon which will occur from time to time. We, human beings, aren't always the cause of all the all the bad things that happen in the world nor can we control everything that happens - although it appears that some people think that we should. Overall I think the sea lion population in the northern hemisphere is pretty healthy.
This is the way things work (and always have worked). In years when food is scarce, animals die off to a level than can be supported by what is available; in times of plenty, many more survive. Not every year is the same, nor has it ever been that way.
Whilst I broadly agree with both your comments, is it not a very kind act of those nice North American people to ease the suffering of these beautiful creatures?
Thankfully they have the resources, and good heart, to help at least some of these wonderful animals.
They should be commended for their work.
@9. Yes it is good for people to help animals (and certainly not abuse animals) - up to a point. Sometimes I think we need to take a step back and let nature take its natural course. Things in nature are usually very interlinked - so that while this is a sad event in the sea lion world there will be positive aspects for other species which are either hunted by sea lions themselves or which can make use of the starving pups as a food source for themselves or their own young. I know this might sound a bit callous but that really is the way in which the natural world interacts.
@10
I take your point, but I still think that rescuing a few hundred sea-lions is not going to affect the whole Pacific eco-system too drastically, (although no expert, I hasten to add!). These people are acting with very good intentions indeed.
It gives thought to the old philosphical/moral dilemma of hearing some-one in distress outside your window. Do you intervene, or just accept that 'shit happens' ? For such is nature...
I'm not telling you what you should/shouldn't do, but I personally hope you would help/inform the police/call an ambulance etc.
Just because they are 'dumb creatures' I think we should help if possible, even if it is to counteract some of the massive damage that humans have done to the natural world.
Which might fit in nicely with your 'callous' view of 'the way in which the natural world interacts.' which we are, of course, a part.
Interesting concepts to consider... thanks for your input.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThe precise cause is clear, the Argentine Govt. has denied them access to The Falkland Islands thus causing great pain and suffering.
Mar 18th, 2015 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0(Not true, I know, but it is the kind of thing the trolls would say in reverse.)
haha!
Ah, the famous Anglo conservation at work once again I see! The one the tossers on this board claim is so superior to Argentine conservation.
Mar 18th, 2015 - 06:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just like in New Zealand with the Maui dolphin.
Don't birds fall from the sky in the USA west coast too? Why would anyone be shocked by this? It's not like world's biggest garbage dump is off the USA coast...
Oh wait... it is.
And there we have @2, exactly as I predicted.
Mar 18th, 2015 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Could they be any more dense? The article discusses how many have been saved, and how.
Actually, that was far too easy to provoke the troll. Like shooting fish in a barrel. ..
*bored*
I'd prefer to talk to the Sea Lions. They have obviously read the article in more depth than TTT.
@2
Mar 18th, 2015 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Excuse me, but I seem to remember you stating in print here that you wanted Ebola to spread. You have been advocating mayhem across the world, not to mention car burnings. Why would any sentient being pay attention to the tripe you post. It's time we eliminated the Ucumars, purely as matter of self defense, you understand... ;)
http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperlaff_zpsrpl58kjd.gif
A brilliant piece of academic research again. You should be recommended for a Nobel prize for your incisive insight.
Mar 18th, 2015 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Because of rising sea temperatures the sea lions food source has shifted.
Obviously the fault of the wicked Americans.
I suppose the el nino effect is the fault of the wicked S.Americans
Is there any Argentine conservation work?
Mar 18th, 2015 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I heard about your rivers/sewers...
I am sure that this will be a natural phenomenon which will occur from time to time. We, human beings, aren't always the cause of all the all the bad things that happen in the world nor can we control everything that happens - although it appears that some people think that we should. Overall I think the sea lion population in the northern hemisphere is pretty healthy.
Mar 18th, 2015 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is the way things work (and always have worked). In years when food is scarce, animals die off to a level than can be supported by what is available; in times of plenty, many more survive. Not every year is the same, nor has it ever been that way.
Mar 18th, 2015 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 & @8
Mar 18th, 2015 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whilst I broadly agree with both your comments, is it not a very kind act of those nice North American people to ease the suffering of these beautiful creatures?
Thankfully they have the resources, and good heart, to help at least some of these wonderful animals.
They should be commended for their work.
@9. Yes it is good for people to help animals (and certainly not abuse animals) - up to a point. Sometimes I think we need to take a step back and let nature take its natural course. Things in nature are usually very interlinked - so that while this is a sad event in the sea lion world there will be positive aspects for other species which are either hunted by sea lions themselves or which can make use of the starving pups as a food source for themselves or their own young. I know this might sound a bit callous but that really is the way in which the natural world interacts.
Mar 18th, 2015 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Makes a change...they usually kill them...
Mar 18th, 2015 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.seashepherd.org/dam-guardians/facts-about-the-sea-lion-cull.html
@10
Mar 19th, 2015 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0I take your point, but I still think that rescuing a few hundred sea-lions is not going to affect the whole Pacific eco-system too drastically, (although no expert, I hasten to add!). These people are acting with very good intentions indeed.
It gives thought to the old philosphical/moral dilemma of hearing some-one in distress outside your window. Do you intervene, or just accept that 'shit happens' ? For such is nature...
I'm not telling you what you should/shouldn't do, but I personally hope you would help/inform the police/call an ambulance etc.
Just because they are 'dumb creatures' I think we should help if possible, even if it is to counteract some of the massive damage that humans have done to the natural world.
Which might fit in nicely with your 'callous' view of 'the way in which the natural world interacts.' which we are, of course, a part.
Interesting concepts to consider... thanks for your input.
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