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Israel honors Nisman on bombing anniversary; crowd calls Argentine officials 'scoundrels'
Israel honored the figure of Argentine former special prosecutor Alberto Nisman during the Thursday ceremony in Buenos Aires to mark the 23rd anniversary of the 1992 attack on the Israel Embassy that claimed the life of 22 people and injured dozens. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIf there was a worse example of extreme cowardice by the Argentine government, I cannot imagine, but then again, CFK has always surprised us with her unimaginable evil.
Mar 20th, 2015 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Begs the question, why is it now they are going to release all documentation regarding the 2 bombings? I bet there are documents that “ cannot be found ” nudge ,nudge, wink,wink, know what I mean.
Mar 20th, 2015 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0So much for TMBOA attempt to obfuscate what happened to Nisman.
Mar 20th, 2015 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0At last the old mantra “The whole World” knows Nisman was murdered by the government of TDC. We can all believe that version.
But the arrival of the government delegation particularly Fernandez was received by boos and strong words, particularly 'scoundrel',
Mar 20th, 2015 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0There must be some draconian law in Israel. Only 'scoundrel'? I can think of many more appropriate words. How in hell did Fernandez, Alak and Zuain have the effrontery to turn up. Tip for Prime Minister Netanyahu. Declare them persona non grata and kick 'em out. Remember that they helped kill Jews. Israel made a mistake in '82. How could it support somewhere so reminiscent of nazi germany?
Mar 20th, 2015 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4
Mar 20th, 2015 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Scoundrel is better than “Racist”.
Look at Israel and their election, look at their actions the last 3-5 years. Bombing indiscriminately towards Palestinians (just like they do at Israel). Calling Arabs “not full humans” (same the other way), etc, etc.
If there are any countries in the world today that are the MOST like Nazi Germany, are the Arab nations, and Israel. The Arab nations full of ISIS support, Israel clearly turning into a racist state in the last 5 years. Ironic.
Eventually it will come to a head and Arabs and Jews will try to exterminate each other. That is really terrible because many innocents and children will die, but that's what happens when you breed extremism.
Europe is going in the same direction. Look at what is happening there: UK in 2011, Norway in the same year, France recently, Italy, now the other day in Germany. Right wing parties growing all over the place.
Europe, Middle East, and Israel will go up in flames due to their racist GENETICS, which they have never and will never be able to change.
Meanwhile in the USA more beatings of blacks, blacks being found hanged, shootings towards police, and more just average mass shootings, all just in the last few days.
Argentina is a paradise. Thank God I'm Argentine.
Argentina declassifies information and our inefable golfcronie one poster resorts to low-level, sarcastic comments in #2. How typical.
Mar 20th, 2015 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I happen to have listened to the boos recorded at the ceremony. It was two, perhaps three individuals shouting their lungs out. Talk about honest balanced coverage by some local media that made it like the “crowd booed.” Sad.
“Nisman was murdered by the government of TDC. We can all believe that version,” notes Chris at #3.
Of course, you know better than everybody what happened. Care to share the details?
Further, there is no government's attempt to “obfuscate” Nisman's death my dear friend. It's a prosecutor's former collaborator who has blown the whistle on alleged diversion of public money to Nisman's pockets...for seven years in a row not less! Bank deposit slips will be easy to produce if the allegations are true.
On the other hand, let's remember that Nisman's 280-page accusation of government cover up contains a lot of fluff but no smoking gun. This fact plus the recent revelations begin to show a very different picture from that two months ago.
Poor Shamir. He may come to regret praising Nisman as somebody who ended “paying with his life the attempt to discover the truth.”
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Mar 20th, 2015 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your catholic god will have an easy time find you an everlasting home if you think Argentina is a paradise, even the jihadi's ask for a 100 virgins.
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Mar 20th, 2015 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell that to your fellow countrymen who to the time out of their day to stand there and shout it at Fernandez.
That aside you are as bad as the worst racists on MP. You can hardly submit a post without declaring some “fact” about how bad all British, Americans and Europeans are. Your post at 6 is a classic example. You my dear boy are a racist.
Furthermore, I'm not sure a racist is necessarily worse than a scoundrel. I think you would have to look at each case and compare them side by side on their merits (or lack there of). I would bet that there are more scoundrels in prisons around the world than racists.
@ 7 Kiki Mashed potato head
Mar 20th, 2015 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0““Nisman was murdered by the government of TDC. We can all believe that version,” notes Chris at #3.
Of course, you know better than everybody what happened. Care to share the details?”
With pleasure as you seem to be in the thrall of a gang of crooks and unable to put two + two together and come up with four, you want to come up with nothing.
Firstly TMBOA did not even, and still has not, offered her GOVERNMENTS condolences to Nismans family. Do you not think that is TMBOA trying to distance herself from the death and has something to hide, or don't you think?
If she was even half the leader she thinks she is she would have stopped this from happening because everybody in the world, apart from Peronista scum such as you think the government did it.
Then, instead of having a professional investigation the old bag without a brain, experience or education in forensic examination is let loose and allows every Tom, Dick and Harry to contaminate the crime scene. The cretins cannot even prove the Bersa pistol had been fired! Do you REALLY believe that is how it should be done?
I could go on but it would only be a waste of my time.
BTW, I am NOT your friend, as you are clearly an absent Peronista you would be included in the 15M extermination programme of all Peronists that I would willingly oversee, to allow the good people of Argentina at least a chance. Even then I think it is too late to overcome decades of putting themselves first and getting one over on everybody else endemic in the populace.
The reality is of course that when the entire government, the civil service, INDEC and the rest of the liars, etc. and regional equivalents are “disappeared”, the rest of the so called Peronistas would be no more being the abject cowards that they are.
#10 ChrisR:
Mar 20th, 2015 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...you would be included in the 15M extermination programme of all Peronists that I would willingly oversee.”
If I understand correctly, your arguments are assorted with some sort of a threat, are they?
If this is the way you solve ideological differences or intimidate people, sorry to disappoint you. You are going to continue to hear from me for some time yet.
As for your pitiful evidence you have submitted to “prove” CFK's involvement in prosecutor Nisman's death, I'd only say I thought you would come up with something better. Keep looking.
“Scoundrels.”. That mean they are as bent as a nine bob note?
Mar 21st, 2015 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4. What a shame that you have neither the honesty nor the intelligence to view Israel and its 'neighbours' properly. So let's get a few things straight. Israel, provably, has existed for more than 3,000 years. I'd like to see you 'prove' the existence of 'palestinians'. News for you. They are just a bunch of thieving arab muslims. Want the highlights? How many Temples did the Jewish people build in their capital city of Jerusalem. The answer is TWO. Take a look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_in_Jerusalem and tell us how long it might have taken to build each one. We can see that the Second Temple took 23 years but wasn't as extravagant or imposing. Let's say the First Temple took 30 years. Can we imagine a people building structures over a period of 53 years in a city that wasn't theirs. So Jerusalem belongs to Israel. Then we can look at the extent of the ancient kingdoms of Judah and Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_in_Jerusalem See the map?
Mar 21st, 2015 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What happened then? The Romans decided on genocide. Argies will be quite used to carrying out such things. But the Romans didn't quite succeed. Many fled. But some remained. Much like the indigenous people of argieland. So there's a continuation.
Muslims didn't appear until 564 years later. Still no sign of 'palestinians', just arabs. Who've always had a reputation for stealing anything they can get their hands on.
The Balfour Declaration. The UN agrees. The Israelis agree. The arabs attack. How many arab armies was that? Four, five? In any case, they were beaten. Israel took over territory it had conquered. You'll remember the legal principle involved. But Israel allowed arabs to settle in Gaza. Is there some reason it shouldn't suppress terrorism? Israel is a proper state. Hamas is a terrorist organisation. Give us a legal basis for the current PA to claim Jerusalem? The arabs were told to go to Transjordan, now Jordan. If they won't go voluntarily, I have no problem with force.
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Mar 22nd, 2015 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0WTF are you talking about the Palestinians are the Philistines and their five city states were Gaza, Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron, and Gath.....ever heard of Goliath of Gath.
They have been around as long as the Israelites, according to the Torah the Philistines were not displaced from Canaan, they were also not one of the ten nations to be displaced by Abraham's descendants and were not one of the nations that Moses said they will conquer....
So the Palestinians... descendants of the Philistines have always been there...it's the Jews that have been absent...
Johnny come lately' s...we used to live here so it must be ours....besides God said so, we were promised, it's the promised land...
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Mar 22nd, 2015 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0“...according to the Torah the Philistines were not displaced from Canaan,...”
Care to provide chapter and verse, Noise? The Arabs conquered the area, just like they did Egypt. ;)
http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperlaff_zpsrpl58kjd.gif
...stupid boy, Egyptians are Arabs....
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hardly Noise, They were Egyptians with their own language for millenia. Arabs took it over, now they speak Arabic. Try again kid. You obviously don't read much. ;)
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Mar 22nd, 2015 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You ought to try again, starting with the English language...do you need lessons, we could come to some arrangement...
verb (used with object), displaced, displacing.
1. to compel (a person or persons) to leave home, country, etc.
2. to move or put out of the usual or proper place.
3. to take the place of; replace; supplant:
Fiction displaces fact.
4.to remove from a position, office, or dignity.
Read my post again the Philistines were not displaced, their descendants are the Palestinians....
Or are you trying to tell me Arabs displaced Arabs....
WTF do you think Palestinians are...I'll give you a clue...begins with A and ends with B plus a plural s on the end...
I'll give you an easy parallel, just so you can understand...The Romans conquered Britain, but they didn't displace the Britons....are we learning yet...?
Stick to chasing Toby...I'll only make you look like a complete idiot, although in all honesty...you already have a head start...;-)))))
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Mar 23rd, 2015 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0One more time Noise. Egyptians were not Arabs. I realize that doesn't fit your agenda. Too bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Arabic_alphabet
No mention of Egyptians here, just nomadic tribes showing up long after the foundation of Egypt. As for Philistines never being supplanted, what's your proof again?
Pray continue with your Peronist/Fascist attempts to push an anti Semitic agenda. It fits well with the the history of Argentina, when you get down to it. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Arabic_alphabet
19...What is your point
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you shoot yourself in the other foot you won't have a leg to stand on...
Are you saying the Egyptians were conquered by Arabs, but remained Egyptians...?
Or that the Egyptians were replaced by the Arabs...?
Or are you saying that a high proportion of Egyptians are descendants of the original Egyptians, but are collectively known as Arabs....?
That would... sort of be....like.....
A high proportion of Palestinians are descendants of the original Philistines, but are collectively known as Arabs....
Or was it different for Egyptians...?
....did you know the name “Palestinian” is derived from the Latin word for Philistine,
...did you know... A study of high-resolution haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Israeli Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool.
This suggests a degree of continuity over a long historical period, much as 'the Israelites' of the Bible suggest a long historical continuity in the same region...
My point is.... Gaza was a city of the Philistines
......................Gaza is a city of the Palestinians
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Mar 23rd, 2015 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am aware of the shared chromosomes. That also points to the practice of forced conversion. Again, not genetically from the Arabian peninsula. Philistines are generally considered to be invaders, part of the “Sea Peoples.” Palestinians would seem to be ex Jews whose makeup is very close to the Azhkenazi. Kinda strange considering guys like you are often trying to claim European Jews are descended from Khazars, a Turkic tribe, with no connection to Israel. ;)
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Mar 23rd, 2015 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are no more invaders than the Jews...people who generally live near and off the sea are called sea people....
The Jews themselves say they originated from the region of Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq).
It is not me claiming Jews descended from Khazars...it is a 33-year-old Israeli Jew from Beersheba who earned a doctorate in molecular evolution from the University of Houston.
”published in December in the online journal Genome Biology and Evolution, Elhaik says he has proved that Ashkenazi Jews’ roots lie in the Caucasus — a region at the border of Europe and Asia that lies between the Black and Caspian seas — not in the Middle East.
That is from DNA testing.....
It's fairly logical that everyone came from somewhere, what is not logical is that a country should be created for a religion...
What next... a country for the Mormons, a country for the Jehovah's Witnesses...how about the Moon for the Moonies...
Radical religious freaks are unnerving....I don't see a difference between Muslims and Jews and some radical Christians....
Also it is rare that descendants of a people are totally displaced or obliterated...
For example: the myth that the Anglo Saxons displaced the ancient Britons...new genetic evidence has concluded that...
The percentage of Ancient Britons in the British population is - 81% of Welsh, 79% of Cornish, 70% of Scots and 68% of English. Even in the areas of Britain most heavily populated by Anglo-Saxons and Vikings they still remain a minority.
(See Sir Barry Cuncliffe's book 'Britain Begins' page 128 or
'Origins of the British' by S Oppenheimer)
So it is most likely there are Philistine descendants in Palestine...
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Mar 23rd, 2015 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It's fairly logical that everyone came from somewhere, what is not logical is that a country should be created for a religion...”
Noise, perhaps you should explain your view to the Islamists. The whole point of your little wall of text is that the Jews have no right to be in Israel. Genetics says otherwise. As far as I am concerned, from 1935 on the Palestinians have earned what happened to them. Your Peronist/Fascist sensibilities are offended by Israel's existence, I am sure. I, on the other hand am greatly amused. Perhaps you should stick to trolling the room for personal data of anti Kleptocrats. ;)
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Mar 23rd, 2015 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They have a right to be in the Middle East as any other Semitic people....
...but they are not God's chosen people, they are not the exclusive inheritors of the Earth, they are not the 144,000 that will be saved to the exclusion of the rest of humanity...
...and there is no promised land....
...and now it is time to call you out and show that you, like Troy make statements based on lies and nonsense...
......“Your Peronist/Fascist sensibilities are offended by Israel's existence”
Show me one single post in all my time on here where I have shown any support for that statement....just one...
....or like Troy, forever hold your piece....
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Mar 23rd, 2015 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Noise, say what you like. I will do the same. ;)
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...a pleasure....anytime...;-)
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