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Brazil ready to join China's Asian Investment bank; (Argentina any moment)
The Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, AIIB, seen as a challenge to existing institutions the World Bank and Asian Development Bank, has drawn a cool response from the United States, despite which European U.S. allies including Britain, France, Germany and Italy have already announced they would join the bank. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSeems Taiwan got denied for “avoiding the discussions of two Chinas”, and that Japan got the deadline removed for dubious reasons.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina and Belgium are the only two I have no further info on. Well, Portugal as well, but they aren't big fishes in these waters...
Argentina is sort of obliged to join its new masters' creation.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Mar 31st, 2015 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Argentina is no big fish either it can't pay previous debts.
Argentina isn't a big fish in Chinese foreign affairs?
Mar 31st, 2015 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guys, we can disagree all we want, but lets not lie to ourselves... Argentina can play a massive role in the project of feeding that giant. I'd think Argentina would sign up long time ago, railroads in SA is great for.... China....
As is the deep water port...
Is the channel in Guatemala done yet?
0 credibility in Dilma and Cristina by anyone above 3rd world in terms of education. Massive capital flight into precious metals and dollars. Financial cooperation? tying sinking boats to one another
Mar 31st, 2015 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The world is becoming more multipolar and that is excellent! No doubt Argentina should join, even if the U.S. pouts.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The USA was offered a membership and it declined. This is a rival to the ADB and it will be smaller and take decades to ramp up.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure all of you idiots remember the Bank of the South that was supposed to rival IDB and it was never capitalized.
Who knows where it will end up could be the same outcome as that disaster.
How is TDC going to pay for the membership subscription?
Mar 31st, 2015 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More Yuan loaned from the Chinese Dragon at usury rates as per the recent fiasco?
TDC broke, it's about time they started acting like it instead of sticking their head in the sand.
Brazil and Argentina...2 countries with lame duck presidents. Dilma can't publically appear and somehow her foreign policy will stick? She's illegitamate like Maduro.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently on the grapevine,
Mar 31st, 2015 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is banned from being an investor, as she will end up being a borrower,
she has no money, but would gradually receive hand-outs...
so they say.
The “use to be Argentine” probably does not understand exactly why the USA objects, or “pouts” in his words. Being a parasitic, yet hypocritical leech I would expect as much.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The competition will be good......it tends to make for better service. My only wonder is how long will it be before Argentina is knocking on the door with their hands out?
The Chinese initiative is commendable. Congratulations China!
Mar 31st, 2015 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All of South America must walk together toward the East.
Walk away brasshole......you need new Masters.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina will do whatever China commands, because Cristina has already sold the grand-childrens inheritance.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Remember, not all of the deals she made are public knowledge yet.
Why the secrecy? It is not her money, it is the future of Argentina that she has sold in order to cling on to power, and no doubt to secure her own personal wealth.
On another note,
@7 yankeeboy
“ Bank of the South that was supposed to rival IDB and it was never capitalized.”
Don't get me started! I could rant for hours about that foolish dream of Chavez that was never realised.
What did happen to the US$ billions he promised?
Because they disappeared from the Vnzla Govt bank balance, appeared briefly in the nascent 'Bank of the South', (which never actually existed in any proper shape), and then, (mysteriously!), vanished....
On paper the Bank of the South still exists, but the electronic trail of the actual CASH seems to have gone cold...
Did it ever exist? Or is it somewhere else?
I suspect the vnzlans got robbed one more time.
Lets face it. In the last 15 years Vnzla enjoyed $800 billion in oil sales, but must go begging to China for loans NOW.
So what happened?
Go Figure! (as you might say!)
I am disgusted with these people that claim to work in the interests of 'the people'.
It is suckers like Brasileiro that let this happen.
The US has made a serious strategic mistake by not being in the AIIB. We should be in on the ground floor when the rules are being written.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0NorthAmoland and their behavior towards all of this:
Apr 01st, 2015 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0If it walks to a corner like a sulking little girl that was left for the “new prettier neighborhood girl”... if it stares like a sulking little girl that was left for the “new prettier neighborhood girl”... if it pouts like a sulking little girl that was left for the “new prettier neighborhood girl”... and if it sulks like a sulking little girl that was left for the “new prettier neighborhood girl”...
Then it must be the USA, sulking as everyone does what is obvious and inevitable: go where the future is, and leave the yesterday's girl to keep on declining.
Must be hard to be the USA these days. No one likes them, no one wants them.
15 Hepatia
Apr 01st, 2015 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We should be in on the ground floor ”
Well that much is obvious, because with your corrupt govt. in place you can never rise to the Top Floor.
You can only dream of the Pent-house.
@ 16 STroll with the_TroLL
Your repetition just shows your own projection, and angst.
You are exposing your own feelings to those superior to you... stop now... it sure ain't pretty...
Everything you wrote shows how you truly feel about your own circumstance.
I pity you.
Superior??? The NorthAmoans? hahahaha, don't make me laugh.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0What's next? You saying EUians are superior too? Because you “protect” the innocent better than argies?
Really? Interesting tid-bit I just read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wildcat
The European wildcat (Latin: Felis silvestris silvestris) is a subspecies of the wildcat that inhabits European forests.... “ has been extirpated in England and Wales. Numbers in Scotland are critically low.[2]”
Anglo love and compassion yet again, right!?
And this bit:
“In most European countries, European wildcats have become rare. Although legally protected, they are still shot by people mistaking them for feral cats, specially in Germany and central Europe. In the Scottish Highlands, where approximately 400 were thought to remain in the wild in 2004, interbreeding with feral cats is a significant threat to the wild population's distinctiveness.[9] The greatest population of wildcats lives in Spain and Portugal but is threatened by interbreeding with feral cats and loss of habitat.[10][11] In the 1990s, the easternmost population in Ukraine, Moldova, and the Caucasus was threatened by destruction of broad-leaved forests, entailing a reduction of their range. Only small numbers occur in protected areas”
Ahh... EUian vanguard in protecting species once again so obviously superior to Argieland!!
EUians and Anglos have no environmental concern whatsoever. Argentina is LIGHT years ahead.
oh my dear!
Apr 01st, 2015 - 04:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are desperate to prove a point, aren't you!
So desperate that you have to invoke random felines in order to denigrate those above you in the social order?
You equate cats with Argentinians/yourself?
Really? You are that crazy?
Okay, you wanna go there?
Fine! Let's look at your link...
You forgot to mention the good work the Brits are doing to re-establish this breed.
Quote; (from same article, no-less),
”In July 2014, the Wildcat Haven project announced the successful neutering of feral and hybrid cats across 250 sq mi (650 km2) of the West Highlands, creating a protected zone for the Scottish wildcat.“
hmm...
” Creating a protected zone for the Scottish wildcat“.
That might be the ”Anglo love and compassion yet again, right!? ”
in action.
Shame you didn't read the whole article. Just googled some shit. This is why you always fail.
Lack of depth.
Shallow Fool.
This is why the Brits have more interest in Cats than they do in Argentinians.
Cats are far more intelligent, and speak better English!
19 ilsen
Apr 01st, 2015 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Snotty Nostrils (TOBY) is decrying the lax attitude of the Europeans and British, etc.
One has to ask why??
Is this an Argentine issue??
Are they superior in some way??
Certainly, Snotty gives no reference to that - they are of European heritage afterall.
And we know Snotty says he is NOT European.
By elimination, after denouncing all races, and the Muslim religion, SNOTTY has only left the people of the Middle East - his own heritage, JEWISH.
What have the Israelis done about saving endangered species, and Wild Cats in particular?? What have the JEWS done about that, Snotty??
More to the point, how do you reconcile the actions of Timmerman, who endangers the freedoms and lives of other JEWS, by conspiring with Iranian Muslims to cover up their murder at the AMIA??
Not only did Timmerman betray your fellow Jews, but your fellow Argentinians, also!!!
@ 20 Troy Tempest
Apr 01st, 2015 - 05:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank You for your input, as always!
I think I may be able to summarise ...
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Snotty is a Pussy mother-fucker.
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(I like to apply the Hemingway principle).
;-)
Anyway, enough about cats, even those #jazz-cats# , let's talk about the subject...
Something he likes to avoid!
21 ilsen
Apr 01st, 2015 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Snotty is a Pussy mother-fucker.”
I don't think you realise how accurate you are!!
As to the subject - I don't think Snotty cares anymore what the subject is - he just wants our attention and a chance to bad mouth our heritage!
sad really.
Banco del Sur, BRICS bank, AIIB... Tons of options for the developing nations.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0And in the future, USA will not profit from the uprise of these nations.
Better yet, the dollar will vanish as the trading currencies and USA will save tons of electricity when stopping the money press.
Win win ;)
#18 pagina boi....I am very soon to be in Mendoza.......please offer some sight seeing advice....and the best place for asado. My mouth is watering for Entrana con chimicurri.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 018 SNOTTY- NOSTRIL
Apr 01st, 2015 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where are you??
I want to hear you defend Timmerman's betrayal of heritage again, re. the AMIA murders!
Nothing???
I wonder why?
@25 How is timmerman a traitor to israel for his Iran deals? It is no favor to iran to do deals with a failed state. If you're right...then let's all go to Buenos Aires now. Let's buy businesses and put a lot of effort in to benefit from this new Iran trade. Kiciloff really did Iran a favor...not really. Clinton's ambassador at the time said the iran theory was sketchy. So this fiction you produce I would say is true if Argentina was a use to anyone, the Chinese, iranians etc. thanks to the Kirchners. More argentines would rather make fun of Chinese. Cristina's deals will stick...BS. She's a traitor to her jewish heritage also. Same with Dilma Rousseff. Argentina has a very huge and prominent jewish community not bowing down to israel. It's timmernan's job to make that look like the most corrupt mentality because that's who he pretends to be. CFK is a mossad president.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 018
Apr 01st, 2015 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I noticed you missed a bit from your damn cherry picking quotes.....
...In July 2014, the Wildcat Haven project announced the successful neutering of feral and hybrid cats across 250 sq mi (650 km2) of the West Highlands, creating a protected zone for the Scottish wildcat.
Also the problem with cats is they are all technically feral, including the domesticated ones...and they all like to go out at night....
...and them big wildcats...being big, don't take no for an answer, but not being particularly clever breed themselves out of existence....
ps....I seen quite a few...often get mistaken for foxes...about the same size...
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Apr 02nd, 2015 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're a bit confused.
Israel?
Timmerman has covered up the murder of Argentine Jews - targeted by Iranians for being JEWISH, in the state of Argentina.
Double betrayal- fellow Jews, and fellow Argentinians- for what???
Money???
Maybe Nisman's report had the answers.
Somebody doesn't want it made public or investigated.
This Iranian going after Argentine Jews theory....is there a real reason why? There's jews living in Iran and Argentina not on board with Israel. Dilma and Kirchnerism are installations by powers designed to keep China in check. That's why CFK while engineering disaster raves about the Chinese future and putting a base in Argentina.
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They betray argentines because they never were part of the fascist football team political spectrum. Evita, Isaebel, Videla, all antijewish. Timerman and Kiciloff...no favors to Argentina and anyone who signs deals with them. Theyre leaving behind poverty without comparison while raving about the works of Peron and the Patria. Timerman's family was attacked and exiled 2 times for being Jewish Marxists...Cristina had a single mother and a stepfather..her mother Ofelia Esther Wilhelm is jewish. I'm not the confused one if you are willing to look at everything wrong with Argentina, ignore the nazi history, and blame Iran for the direction of Kirchner, Kiciloff, and Timerman.
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Apr 02nd, 2015 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gotta admit - I don't understand a word of what you are saying!
Are you saying the Iranians are NOT responsible for the AMIA bombing?
Are you saying CFK and Timmerman are NOT involved in a coverup?
Are you saying that, as people of Jewish heritage, CFK and Timmerman are NOT betraying their fellow Jews by protecting the identity of those who murdered them, whatever the motive??
First question: i have my doubts. I watched this argentine report that said Iran was working with al qaeda. This makes no sense. It's baseless.
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll agree they threw their country and its jews under the bus. With the help of mossad. Nisman a useful idiot. Now netanyahu can blame iran for everything wrong in the world.
While Americans mourn criticizing Brazil. your beloved ally. England joined the china. the States are in decline. only fools Americans don't see.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brasil is founding member of Banco del Sur, BRICS Bank (NDB) and now AIIB. Add that to the promise they would never lend from the IMF ever again.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0No wonder they are so upset with our brothers from the north...
I see idiots Americans crying, trying to deny reality ... hahaha ...
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Juliano, Buy the Argentine peso and hold onto it for 2years. It will be rewarding. Convert your savings like Dilma's friend Cristina. These jewish queens will protect you.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 033 STEVIE
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody is going to lend to you, if you refuse to pay it back.
Do you think China will be any different?
Argentina- pay your debts!
Argentina will belong to China within 25 years.
Venezuela already belongs to China, they just don't know it yet
:-)
18 respectively 3 Trillion dollars in debt. And you tell others to pay their debt.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All your lives are based on living on borrowed money, what are you pointing fingers for.
Better cross them instead, and hope the dollar resists...
Only a latino thinks the rest of the world manages debt like a .......latino.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Stevie,
Apr 04th, 2015 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brasil is founding member of Banco del Sur (where's the U$? where's the lending?)
, BRICS Bank (NDB) (still no funding and Russia is out of U$)
and now AIIB ( we'll see, China can try but who knows where it will end up)
My guess is it will be a shell set up and never get off the ground.
Even if it does the whole of all of these countries represents 17% of the world trade with most coming from China/USA/EU trade and Russia O/G to EU trade. So they're really insignificant to the world trade and world order.
Has beens trying to make waves.
Nobody cares.
Stevie......see how excited you are about competition between world lending powers, so much it gives you a chubby. See if you can get a VISA anywhere in South America and spread that new fangled concept of competition with your same enthusiasm. Oh.....I forgot......you don't go to South America.........my bad. I'll send you pictures next month.
Apr 04th, 2015 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yanqui, BdS has 20B already.
Apr 04th, 2015 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NDB has some 100B already.
AIIB has 50B already.
Pops, I'm not, I'm excited by the de-dollarisation.
We needed that.
@ 41 Argieuruguayo
Apr 04th, 2015 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have tried and tried but cannot find any support for those ludicrous numbers.
BDS was announced by two dead men and a bunch of crooks in 2009, initiated in Carracas of all places in 2013 with the original promise of 7 Bn dollars (NOT 20 Bn latterly promised) STOP PRESS:
This announcement was in error!!!! On 27th March 2015 (EIGHT days ago):-
”The president of Bolivia, Evo Morales, met today in the city of Cochabamba (center) with Ecuadorian Foreign Minister Ricardo Patiño, to coordinate the opening date of the operations of Banco del Sur.“
”We're almost ready to start with the Banco del Sur and have sought a suitable date for holding meetings presidents and proceed to the opening of the South Bank,” said Ecuadorian Foreign Minister.
OMG, IT STILL ISN'T OPERATIONAL (it has only been six years).
The missive went on to state:
“Patiño said the bank will begin operations with capital of between 6000-8000 million, while ”the idea is that you can get to have 20,000 million.“
BUT, there's always a but with the children who ”rule“ SA, isn't there?
”He added that the agency is expected to be “one of the most important development banks” in the region and said his openness “will be one of the best news of this year.”
SO!
No accounts raised yet after SIX years;
No loans issued;
Aren't you the gullible one! Ha, ha, ha.
Just wait, Chris. There's a reason you abandoned the ship in the first place after all...
Apr 04th, 2015 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When will this de-dollarization happen Stevie? Will I be alive to see it?
Apr 05th, 2015 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 43 Argieuruguayo
Apr 05th, 2015 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was that it?
I have never had a ship!
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Apr 05th, 2015 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and STEVIE vainly waits for his ship to come in...
Pops
Apr 05th, 2015 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wouldn't know, but check the progress of your debt since 2005 and tell me it isn't worrying...
@ 46 Troy Tempest
Apr 05th, 2015 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argieuruguayo has lost the argument about 'tons' of choice for the Children ruling SA to 'borrow' so he has to fall back on deflection being the troll he is.
Given that his breakdowns are getting worse each time and are coming sooner and sooner I think he will be gone again before the end of June. :o)
Stevie are you and the world worried we will manage it like a South American?
Apr 06th, 2015 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm worried you wont be able to handle it at all.
Apr 06th, 2015 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The world doesn't care really, they just invent another currency and continue the game...
Don't compare to SA, we never had Trillions in debt, rating agencies or world banks...
50 STEVIE
Apr 06th, 2015 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How's your Bitcoin investment working out?
LOL !!
http://www.wired.com/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/all/
Nor have you ever had trillions in GDP's either.......or democracy or free markets. When it happens....please.....let me know. And while you may think I am a decent person, there is no need to worry about me....I can assume you of that. I'm curious Stevie.....just how much (as a communist/socialist) do you understand about competition? You seem to like it in lending for countries but not in business in South America, why is that? At any rate, with the China what......5 times the size of the USA, my 1st question is why China had not overcome the USA sooner? Will the world decide of the Yuan as a currency of choice......immediately yes from the deadbeat nations....you know....in South America. Unlikely to the rest of the world with the Yuan being market priced on supply and demand.
Apr 06th, 2015 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://financesonline.com/4-reasons-why-yuan-wont-replace-dollar-as-reserve-currency/
I could be wrong and it would not be the first time. I've been wrong in the past and it cost lives......fortunately not Americans with me. And I am positive it will not be my last time. I fear not admitting when I am wrong and make mistakes......unlike most everyone here. But am I worried? You seem to have that answered for me.
All I know about competition is that it's always second to cooperation.
Apr 06th, 2015 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for the Yuan becoming the new trading currency, I have my doubts, as it is too restricted for that demand.
I'm no communist, Pops. I just see better possibilities in borrowing fair and improve education, healthcare, energy and infrastructure, rather than improving life for a business that only improves its own pockets while always finding a way to avoid taxes.
@ 53 Argieuruguayo
Apr 06th, 2015 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So without business to employ people which allows them to pay real taxes off commercial activities (unlike those on the government / govt monopoly tit: 600,000 in ROU) WHO pays the tax to keep the likes of “No Money Pepe” and the rest of the numbnuts in the manner to which they have quickly become attached to?
To make it really simple: there would ONLY be government people “working”.
I bet that:
1) You do not answer OR
2) You come out with the usual BS!
Go on, surprise us all, I DEFY you!
Ha, ha, ha.
IS HOLLYWOOD PART of the (TPP Global Treaty & Anti AIIB) PROCESS, or, OUT-of-the LOOP, too?
Apr 09th, 2015 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- L.A. Times, Apr. 7, 2015, blog
It may regrettable that the simple & most basic information & questions that can lead to a much more secure & profitable relationship between the potential signatories of the TPP & China, et al, has not been shared with Defense Secretary Carter for his humble consideration. Perhaps, he may consider answering some of the enclosed questions in order for us to get a better idea of what his understanding is of how the TPP & other Global Treaties can be vastly improved inclusively & thereby, minimize, &/or, eliminate the dangerous problems below that have led some to understand that
'What the TREATY of VERSAILLES was to the 20th century (ie. provided the basis for World War II) PALES in COMPARISON to the TPP, CETA, C-CIT, NAFTA, et al, in the 21st'.
Unless, of course, the long term economic destabilization and subsequent (secret) military weapons development & appropriations are the intent of DefSec Carter, et al, in the secret (Death-Star-Chamber) 'arrangements' of the TPP & the Global Corporate Treaties/Agreements.
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But, how many 'savvy' Americans (Hollywood actors, producers, union members & fans) & their global corporate associates are 'poised' to make windfall profits from their international cross investments, 'nest-feathered' lawsuits & preplanned treaty 'arrangements' at the direct expense of the harmless non shareholders, ie. 95% - 99% of America , et al?
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While the good sales folks of Wall St. may prefer to tell their 'Enron-able' customers who were also the victims of 'The Preliminary Foray of The Wall St. Meltdown', et al, that it's just some Unions that are fighting back, how much of the Fighting Back of Unions against the Secret, Unethical & Anti-Democratic Arrangements of The Global Treaties' 'Death-Star-Chamber' Tribunals, can be understood
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FULL Article, see; davidehsmith.wordpress.com
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