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Argentina ‘malvinazing’ history through ‘mature nationalism’ says president on Malvinas war 33rd anniversary
Argentina is ‘malvinazing’ (Malvinas) its history, but not through chauvinist patriotism but mature nationalism that seeks international law and peace to recover sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands, said president Cristina Fernandez during the 33rd anniversary of the beginning of the South Atlantic conflict on 2 April 1982. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMalvinazing funnily, but hardly surprising enough, contains the word NAZI.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Old, tired and ineffective arguments from an old, tired and ineffective president.
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Apr 03rd, 2015 - 04:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0How do you you like the way CFK sums up,
”... those who sunk in the Belgrano (navy ship) are martyrs of the territorial independence and there is still a part missing. Because there will be no full July 9 (Argentine Independence Day) until we can recover our Malvinas Islands.”
She speaks of “martyrs” in the cause, and the continuing campaign to take what is not theirs, riling the Arg. people up to believing it should be theirs...
exactly what she criticised the junta and the British of doing!!!
It's laughable.
Does any of this rant and rave make sense. We shouldn't blame them for the war they started and which saw Argentine's dancing in the streets on April 2nd 1982?
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 04:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0How ridiculous is that?
They have a history of “peaceful cooperation”? Really? Perhaps I missed that.
As for the Chagos - they've just been stuffed by the latest PCA decision. Now the UK has to consult with Mauritius on the future of the Chagos as Mauritius will eventually get the archipelago back. Can anyone really see Mauritius allowing the return of ex-Mauritians (now Brit citizens) to a part of their territory when those British citizens have ideas about self-determination?
And as to how we spend our money? What's it got to do with CFK?
The only threat to that region is Argentina. Ask its neighbours
CFK's address on TV has been taken as a joke by most here in Uruguay. Vivan las Falklands!
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 06:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0“... not through chauvinist patriotism but mature nationalism that seeks international law and peace...” she says on the anniversary her nation LAUNCHED the war, BROKE international peace, and disregarded BINDING UN resolutions...
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 06:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0... Jesus tap dancing Christ, how does the Oxford dictionary NOT have her picture next to the word 'hypocrisy'?
What a pantomime! What do sensible Argentine citizens think of this performance?
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing more than a swivel - eyed rant. Sinister in places, talking of “mature Nationalism” ; ironic in others when she speaks of “youngsters always being canon-fodder” and downright duplicitous when she talks of “militarisation” . Bluster and verbose.Verbal flatulence , populist in context, bereft of any gravitas.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0But perhaps the saddest part of this diatribe is Kirchner genuinely believes her own rhetoric and in doing so has not only failed her own nation and people. She has let down a whole region ,profoundly.
Our President continually farts..trouble is its all through her mouth!
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0If it's such “an inhospitable and awful territory” then why does she want it so badly? Just let go, you'll feel much better for it.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 07:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina won't lose face when it finally stops going on about the Falklands, instead it will begin to regain international credibility and respect. At the moment it has neither.
...and still the Union flag flies over this “inhospitable and awful territory.”
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Impotent, lame duck president.
Mrs Kirchner needs to grow up.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0does she write her own speeches?
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0There were hero's in that war, but they weren't Argentine.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't this the representative of a nation that keeps complaining that the UK is ignoring UN Resolutions. Well apparently the UK isn't the only one.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ref.: 2225(XXI)
The General Assembly,
Deeply... ...without distinction of any kind,
Recognizing that full observance of the principle of the non-intervention of States in the internal and external affairs of other States is essential to the fulfilment of the purposes and principles of the United Nations,
Considering further that direct intervention, subversion and all forms of indirect intervention are contrary to these principles and, consequently, constitute a violation of the Charter of the United Nations,
Mindful that violation of the principle of non-intervention poses a threat to the independence, freedom and normal political, economic, social and cultural development of countries, particularly those which have freed themselves from colonialism, and can pose a serious threat to the maintenance of peace,
1. No State has the right to intervene, directly or indirectly, for any reason whatever, in the internal or external affairs of any other State. 4. The strict observance of these obligations is an essential condition to ensure that nations live together in peace with one another, since the practice of any form of intervention not only violates the spirit and letter of the Charter of the United Nations but also leads to the creation of situations which threaten international peace and security.
“Things are changing not only in our country, where we have began to ‘malvinize’ our history which does not mean a chauvinist patriotism...”
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0...but it *does* mean changing history to further your most precious political ploy, the Malvinas Lie.
“...that seeks international right, dialogue and not the militarization in the path to sovereignty”
You have no legal or moral claim to the Falklands that you can prove.
You've refused honest dialogue by insisting any outcome favour you *before* negotiations, and refusing to acknowledge the legitimate inhabitant's interests.
Your ”path to sovereignty“ is based on lies.
‘the population living in the disputed territories are British with the native Argentine population been expelled by the UK in 1833’.
Another lie. The military garrison there illegally was removed by the rightful holders of sovereignty. The Argentine population was invited to stay. Some *chose* to leave.
The current Islanders can trace their heritage from those who stayed. They *are* the legitimate inhabitants of the British Falkland Islands. That is what Mr Prescott refers to.
”...How can they thing Argentineans pose a danger?”(sic)
Let's see - you've lied about the Falklands since before your illegal invasion, you refuse any fair arbitration or honest dialogue, and some of your future military purchases have been boasted as being able to reach the Falklands.
You even proudly boast of lying to your *children* about the Falklands. That's the part that sickens me the most.
”Because there will be no full July 9 (Argentine Independence Day) until we can recover our Malvinas Islands.”
Then there will be no full July 9. The Falklands are not yours, nor have you ever had any proper claim to them. It's time you stopped lying.
A good start would be to acknowledge the Islands self-determination vote and admit their decolonisation.
Unfortunately, the Malvinas Lie has turned into a sunk-costs fallacy for you. I hope you can tell the truth someday.
You know, l really think now, that they don't think that they ARE lying.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0They really believe the bs that they've been spouting all these years.
Dr Goebbels was right.
“Tell a lie, long enough & often enough & people will eventually believe it to be so”.
Only thing is, its worked on them too well, but not the rest of the world, who it was aimed at also.
We will never have peace until Argentina fragments.
(maybe not that long from now!).
if you had a sense of decency you'd look after your veterans and aplogise to the islanders or at least draw a veil over the whole embarrassing episode.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0I just love the word 'mature' being spouted by a woman who has none herself.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with Isolde: the islands will never have peace while this nonsense is raging every other day.
Hopefully British cruise missiles will end it, sooner rather than later, and put the stupid children back 250 years in their fabled history.
They are always spouting about the past, they should be sent there asap.
There are 17 colonial enclaves… 10 of which are British. The hour of the people finally comes everywhere sooner than later
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK did not state what ones were ours and what ones were hers,
I presume she knows.
Funny that Paul-Marcos et all are not on here praising her up? But Oh how very
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0apt that Kirschener managed to get the letters “NAZI” into her speech - such a 100% spot on description of the attitude and actions of Argentine Governments towards our islands since 2nd April 1982 - military junta and current president.
Stupid Cow!!!
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0She wants to talk,
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0she invites you to her asylum room to talk,
the seat is empty, the brain washing machine is turned on and ready to impose its will,
she will talk, you will listen,
you will not be allowed to leave until she is satisfies that you are as brainwashed as her.
talk,
unless she is willing to listen, then talking is a complete waste of time.
Rule number one: If it comes from Cretina's mouth it is of no consequence to any right minded person. If you place yourself within the realm of her influence you are a fool. To respond to her nonsensical chatter attributes to her more significance than she is due. The rotting roadkillians are only receiving that which they deserve.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0“When we went to the Islands it was not because of the decision of a democratic government. Don’t let them hold us responsibility because they shut up when the institutional order in Argentina was broken on March 24 (1976), I listened to no power protest when thousands of Argentines were tortured.'
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need to try again, woman. On this very forum, there are 'people' who constantly criticise the British Empire. An institution that lasted for more than 360 years. We don't see any criticism of the many other empires. How about the empires of the Aztecs, Brazil, the Dutch, the French, the Incas, the Italians, the Ottomans, the Romans, the spanish. If present-day argieland can't be held responsible for the actions of the Junta, then present-day Brits can't be held responsible for the actions of the Empire. In fact, it's not a good comparison. The British Empire existed BEFORE the 'current' rules of international society. The actions of the Junta, and the 'people' that lived with it, took place DURING our current 'modern' society. If argieland can't be held responsible, why does it now act in much the same way? Are all those people filmed dancing, singing, flag-waving in the streets in April 1982 now dead? Argieland IS responsible. But, to clarify that, argieland isn't responsible. Because argieland doesn't understand the concept of 'responsibility'. We can see that Germans and Japanese still feel responsible for what took place during the WW2 era. When WE, and those others, who suffered are prepared to say that those presently living are not responsible, they can say that they aren't responsible. Argieland IS responsible for 1982. And it's extending the period of responsibility every day. If EVERY argie policy and attitude toward British territories in the South Atlantic were to be reversed TODAY, argieland might be able to start to say that it isn't responsible somewhere around the year 2115! Argieland IS a live threat.
As time goes by, the annual crap that they spew out becomes more and more bizarre. This is the language of losers.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THE WOUNDS OF A TORTURED NATION. (Part one).
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Firstly iwant to say that i dont' have any problem in debating with people who don't think like me, in fact, i always read ALL the comments that many forists make in refference to my lectures, however, if i don't answer some of them, is because i'm not disposed to give entity to reactionaries who insult me, or who make too ignorant and despisable comparisons, sorry, but i have never liked wasting my time with such mediocre people.
As i said a few weeks ago, we can't turn the page still, not only for the shameful decision of our court, in relation to the denounces for tortures during the war, but also because the u. k. doesn't have any will of resumming the negotiations with arg. , in order to find a peaceful solution for this conflict.
I will always understand the desesperation that all the islanders must have felt during the 76 days of the invasion, because actualy it is the same one that planty of our compatriots felt for more than 7 years and a half, in fact, many of them are still looking for their relatives who are dissappeared.
I know that after reading this, there will be some forists who will remind the fact that plaza de mayo was full of citizens , when galtieri announced that arg. recovered the sovereignty of the islands. However those ignorants don't know that he said that, ``we have recovered without any rancour, the sovereignty of the austral islands...´´, which was actualy false. On the other hand, in that moment there was not any freedom of press, in fact, all the information that came from the islands was all distorted on behalf of the interests of the junta. There are excellent documentaries about the deceitful propaganda of the dictatorship during the war.
Anyway, despite that fact, human rights organizations who fought against the dictatorship , made also a very big march which lemma was, yes to malvinas, no to the dictatorhsip...........
26. lol. rotting roadkill.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only 45 minutes, crafty bitch, she is trying to bore us out of the Islands!
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@26 ... Don't waste your time here... Nobody on this board feels remorse for you nor your country... Most of us have spent time in Argentina and know precisely how it operates. As the adage goes “You get what you pay for” ... Historically Argentina governments have lied, cheated, ripped off, almost anyone they have ever dealt with... Argentines have elected these cretin to their positions and thus must pay the price... No sympathy found here for you... Go away!!!
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THE WOUNDS OF A TORTURED NATION. (Part two).
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beside, the lemma of mothers from plaza de mayo was, The Malvinas are as argentines as the dissappeared people. Unfortunately, not many people remember it. Some of their members, were also victims of the junta.
On the other hand, since the end of the war, the islanders aren't victims anymore. The actual scenario, is the the result of their own intransigence and hyocresy. Nobody is asking them to leave the islands, nobody is asking them to renounce to their british nationality, and nobody is asking them to renounce to their wish of remaining under british government. However they complain about the hard decisions taken by the government from buenos aires, at the same time that they continue to exclude arg. of exercising it's sovereign rights over the islands. They just insist on their hypocritical lecture about the application of the right to self determination, when actualy public international right doens't apply that principle for absolutly all people under any circunstance.
Anyway i agree on them every time they say that arg. should take the case to the i. c. j., in fact, in 1884 and 1888 arg. suggested taking the cause to an arbitration, which was rejected by the u. k., and in 1947, britain proposed to take the case of the dependencies from the islands, but i didn't include the malvinas in that proposal, after that year, none of the two nations proposed to analize the case again before the court.
In contraty to what a few cretins say about me, i have never omitted the huge responsability of my country in the war. I understand the humilliation that many people in britain must have felt, when they saw their troops on the floor, threatened by our soldiers, published in all the newspapers. However, i won't never accept that the only one solution was a war, especially if we take into account that two years before, thatcher's government gave clear signals which show that britain wanted to get rid of the islands.........
When you read posts like Axel's you really wonder if they drink poisoned water in Argentina.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't see how else there could be such mass delusion and hyteria clinging onto lies and myths like they are the truth.
It is truly frightening what brainwashing can do to a nation.
Bt what is even more frightening is that even with the free access of all the world's knowledge at your fingertips people like Axel still exist.
Argentinians are clearly regressing as a nation and a people.
@26
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“because the u. k. doesn't have any will of resumming the negotiations with arg. , in order to find a peaceful solution for this conflict.”
Argentina (Timmerman) was given the chance to discuss the Islands (I think in 2013?) but because two Islanders were to be present, Timmerman refused to have talks.
I imagine that the UK had every intention of finding a peaceful solution, but the best way to find out would have been to Argentina to turn up.
I don't know what you think Axel, but I say it is stupid beyond belief when you are offered the chance to talk about something you keep demanding talks on, to refuse dialogue?
Falkland Islanders were present at talks between the UK and Argentina before 1982.
If the Argentines see the Islanders as British and not native Falklanders (even if they were born in the Islands), then, as Argentina wants talks with the BRITISH, how logically can Timmerman object to talking with people born on the Islands? If according to Argentina's twisted logic that the Islanders are Argentinian, why not talk to them?
Anyone with any brains can see that if Argentina is not prepared to talk to the Islanders, it will never come to the peaceful solution they claim to want.
THE WOUNDS OF A TORTURED NATION (Part three).
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As i said in a few opportunities, if the islanders decided to forgive thatcher, despite the bad actions that her government took against them, i accept it absolutly, however i won't never buy the hypocritical explanation of some pro thatcherists who pretend to make people believe that she decided to go to a war, because she wanted the right to self determination for the islanders to be respected.
Beside, there are some rabbles who told me in a few opportunities that we should thank thatcher, due to after the war, arg. could recover the democracy. I don't think that the recovery of the democratic sistem for argentinan was in thatcher's mind, when she decided to go to a war. It is is actualy one more of their hypocritical lectures.
Although many of you don't accept it, there is something that thatcher and galtieri had in common. Both used this cause, in order to save their misserable governments.
The idiot and criminal junta thought that if they invaded the islands, they would be able to push britain for a negotiation, they actualy didn't want any war, in fact, they were disposed even to accept the three flags proposal. However they didn't interpret correctly the social and political context of the u. k., which was being ruled by a neoliberal leader like thatcher. Although her monetary policies diminished inflation level, they provoked also a high number of unemployment, then, in that dramatic context, nothing would be better than a war, in order to recover popularity.
What also bothers me, is the fact that galtieri is just remembered as the one who took the nation to a war, when actualy that son of a bitch was also responsable for the dissappearances of a lot of citizens in santa fe, when he was in charge of a relevant sector of the army.
Unfortunatelly, not many people know it.
Axel has said it better than I could and I entirely subscribe to his views.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What matters today is:
1. Argentina keeps claiming the Malvinas, as it has done regularly since the islands were taken from us.
2. To do so, Argentina intends to stick to diplomacy. The 1982 war was a tragedy for both countries and actually spoiled Argentina's chances to negotiate the recovery of the islands.
3. Although the 1982 occupation set the clock back, international conditions are fast evolving, and hopes for a peaceful and creative settlement that contemplates the rights of the islanders must not be abandoned. The agreement of the western countries with Iran would have been deemed impossible for most until just a few days ago.
And yet in 2015 Argentina has never been further from gaining the islands.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing is evolving. This is the status quo. Accept it and move on.
@30 axel
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina isn't excluded from exercising its sovereign rights over the islands because Argentina HAS NO sovereign rights over the islands, and never has.
If you disagree take your case to the International Courts of Justice, but you'll have to have more than lies, half truths and a plastic doll to back you up.
As for all your other comments they're just as deluded and erroneous as ever. You put forwards YOUR option like it is fact, and blatantly IGNORE the truth.
Aren't you at least a little humiliated by your President and her clownish antics?
@34 Enrique
The only times the islands were taken from you were the 2 times you tried to steal them from the British. And they weren't taken they were recovered by the true and native owners.
Argentina hasn't regularly 'claimed' the Falkland Islands, there was a period of over 91 years were Argentina never even mentioned the Falklands, thus your claim is a lie.
Argentina cannot recover what was never yours. You tried to steal the islands twice, like thieves, and you would try again in a heartbeat IF you thought you could get away with it.
You say you want to create a peaceful settlement that 'contemplates' the rights of the islandsers BUT that isn't the same as GUARANTEEING the rights of the islanders.
The islanders already have everything that they want. What can Argentina offer them that is better than self determination and freedom?
But you are right about one thing, the relationship between the islanders and Argentina could be improved. But it is Argentina itself that blocks this, with your horrible and racist attitudes towards the islanders.
If you are truly serious about mending bridges you must 1st PROVE that you respect the islanders. To start with you can stop CELEBRATING the start of a war you instigated in order to steal their lands and enslave or murder them and APOLOGISE UNRESERVEDLY for it.
Until you do that you cannot and will not be trusted.
@36:
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have told the truth better than I could. Thanks for saving me the effort.
Translation of malvinazism: 'mature nationalism!' No kidding,
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
“There are 17 colonial enclaves… 10 of which are British. The hour of the people finally comes everywhere sooner than later.”
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And which people is she talking about, the hour of the Argentine people to occupy the Islands, or the hour of the Islands people to determine their own future?
Of course bellicose and belligerent Argentina is no threat to a population of illegal British squatters with no right to be there, in fact having no rights at all.
It’s an “egalitarian society”, unless you happen to be one of the implanted foreign squatters, like the Mapuche
Telling other people how to run their budgets, because she has made such a good job of running Argentina, into the ground.
As for the shameless playing of the Nationalist card, for short term political gain, it’s unthinkable.
Never in the history of diplomacy, has dialog been more unnecessary than with this woman.
Describing invaders, however hapless, as “martyrs” is most definitely blasphemous, just as praying to blue plastic statues is.
Correct “there will be no full July 9” she got that bit right at least.
@ 30 axel arg
According to the UN charter, the Decolonisation declaration Res 1514 and Ban Ki-Moon on many occasions, ALL THE TERRITORIES ON THE LIST have the right to self-determination.
The right undeniably applies to these people in this situation. It’s all written up on the UN web site.
30 years ago when they used to hide this sort of information in books, which few ever read, you could talk this rubbish unchallenged.
Today everyone on the planet with a computer and internet access can look for themselves.
The world knows what the resolutions say, not only did the world vote for them, the world also knows how to look them up.
@34 Enrique Massot
1. Not true! In 1850 Argentina signed a treaty with Britain which ended Argentina’s claims until Peron revived it in 1936.
2. Very debatable in fact not believable.
3. International conditions have evolved towards human rights, no liberal democracy o
@34 Enrique Massot
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. Not true! In 1850 Argentina signed a treaty with Britain which ended Argentina’s claims until Peron revived it in 1936.
2. Very debatable in fact not believable.
3. International conditions have evolved towards human rights, no liberal democracy on the planet will support Argentina’s position that the Islanders do not have the right to self-determination.
Snicker...
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If he only had a brain!
An Argentinian shepherd was found dead after having sex with a scarecrow that he had dolled up in a wig and lipstick – and manned up with a strap-on sex toy, according to The Daily Mirror.
Neighbors reported a foul odor emanating from the San Jose de Balcare home of Jose Alberto, 58, whose rotting remains were found by police next to his stuffy date.
“I initially thought there were two bodies but then I realized one was a scarecrow wearing lipstick and a long-haired wig,” said Rodolfo Moure, a spokesman for the prosecutor’s office. “It was lying next to the deceased and had a six-inch strap-on penis.”
The scary scene showed no signs of violence between the lovers, he added.
“We are working on the assumption that the man died during sex with the scarecrow,” Moure said. “We are now waiting the results of an autopsy.”
The apparently reclusive Albert lived alone and didn’t have a cellphone.
Axel.argentina & Enrique Massot
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Both of you seem to be unaware that the Argentine claim to sovereignty of the Falklands/Malvinas is based on:
1) Cuentos de hadas(fairy tales)
2)Mentiras(lies)
3)Ocurrencias imaginadas(imaginary events)
4)Interpretaciones erróneas de eventos históricos.(mistaken interpretation of historical events)
5) Y que su inteligencia ha sido alterada por el lavado de sus cerebros desde la infancia.(And, finally. your intelligence has been altered by official brain washing since you iinfancy)
¡Que la Virgen de las Malvinas(que no existe)les bendiga!
30 Axle aargh
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ They just insist on their hypocritical lecture about the application of the right to self determination, when actualy public international right doens't apply that principle for absolutly all people under any circunstance”
Sorry Axle,
That's not what the UN says, and it's not what Ban kee Moon says either.
It is not up to Argentina to decide who is entitled to Self- Determination.
Falklands / Malvinas are the measure of Argentine crisis. The more the Argentine Government outputs Falklands issues the deeper the crisis in Argentina.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What the President says is that things are terrible in Argentina so she has even assigned a Minister and writes Malvinas on the buses. When Argentina was wealthy and one of the first world economies, the Falklands were not even on Argentine maps. How sad.. could be a great country..
34
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A country like England would never allow the people who live and reside in the Falklands to come under the jurisdiction of a mismanaged, corrupt socialist regime such as one that exists in Argentina.
When you refer to Argentina you should be saying them. Us for you is Canada. Your senility tends to take the better of you and you forget where you ran away and live in exile at.
I'll send you pictures from Argentina next month old man. Care to see the trash piled 8 feet high on the streets? Villa 5? The dismantled Columbus statue strewn all over La Casa Rosada waiting for a terrorist to be put in his place? How about the tiled sidewalks that are dangerous lifted and a nightmare to walk on between that and dog shit? Perhaps I can capture all the containers rotting and rusting for years now in Puerto Madura?
“I don’t make a mistake or commit blasphemy when I use the word martyrs because in short they sent 18-year-olds without any sort of preparation to an inhospitable and awful territory without the minimum of food, shelter“
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think that we all are interested in her choice of words here:-
”to an inhospitable and awful territory“
Is this the same ”inhospitable and awful territory“ that you falsely claim as your own? that you ”want back”?
Tell me Madame Prez, please do tell!! If you hold the Falklands Islands in such low regard, why the f**k do you want them?
@46 toooldtodieyoung,
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) OIL
2)Revenge for the Butthurt that they feel over 1982.
3)Latino “we must ALWAYS win” syndrome.
The plonkers.
@26, 30, 33. You won't mind if I precis your diatribe, will you?
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It goes like this:- I'm a stupid, ignorant, self-opinionated wanker with a fart for a brain that thinks his dumb 'comments' can be dignified as 'lectures'. If you're going to 'lecture', axel, do it to those less intelligent than yourself. It'll be quite easy. They'll be in SoAm. Not in Britain or the Falkland Islands.
So sorry for your compatriots. But not much. Isn't it supposed to be 30,000 'disappeared'? That was the figure the Kirchner bitch herself used only the other day. Well, tough shit. Unlike you, I was an adult in 1982. In Britain, we always knew that our troops would beat you shitless. But there's a little feature that you might not know. After watching the way that your scummy conscripts and so-called elites treated our courageous Royal Marines, who were outnumbered at least 10 to 1, but fought anyway, NOBODY in Britain would have objected if our wonderful Margaret Thatcher had authorised the use of Britain's Polaris nuclear missiles.
Did argieland have 30 million inhabitants in 1982? Glad to see the end of all of them! We haven't changed much. You're still scum the world can do without. Think how the world would thank us if you were obliterated!
Now here's a little tip. You're supposed to be a 'teacher', and therefore a propaganda prat. But you can't tell US what to think, unlike the poor children forced under your nazi-style 'education'.
So piss off and never come back. You don't have the brain of a slug, even if you look like one.
@34. Please return to argieland. When we take it out, we want to eliminate all of you. Otherwise, we'll have to hunt you down and pick a personal elimination method. How do you feel about being impaled? I'm sure we could manage a bent bough, roughly trimmed, dried and with splinters. Should suit you!
The “Malvinization of History” is an ongoing criminal act by Argentine governments & Argentine civil service repeating Argentine junta “Las Malvinas son argentinas” propaganda directly to school children today
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“But what exactly is the ‘Malvinas cause’? Argentine political scientist Vicente Palermo, defines it as a discursive aspect of Argentine nationalism that includes “a narrative of the past, an interpretation of the present and a mandate for the future”, and which has helped to shape national identity.” Two factors have been crucial in developing & keeping the ‘Malvinas cause’ alive: the constitutional mandate & the education system, of which the Constitution is both cause & consequence”
http://www.argentinaindependent.com/currentaffairs/newsfromargentina/las-malvinas-son-argentinas-who-taught-you-that/
The Argentine fascists created a state education program to indoctrinate a false irrendentist revanchanist nationalist claim about the Falklands in order to create favourable political conditions in Argentina to seize these lands for Argentina
The Islanders are ordinary human beings but they have been demonized as pirate English Thieves they are portrayed as scapegoats for the British assertion of its sovereign rights long long ago in 1833, when the reality is these events were not their doing
The Islanders are held responsible for a disagreement between the AR & UK that happened 177 years ago & actually resolved by peace treaty in 1850. However, the neo-fascist politicians ignored this fact, because it doesn't fit well with their propaganda expansionist foreign policy
Today Argentine neo-fascists politicians still use the same Junta pretexts to justify Argentine acts of aggression against the Islanders & so the Argentine State policy of dehumanization of the Falkland Islanders accelerates
Sadly nobody in Argentina openly opposes these abhorrent policies rather there is evil sinful collusion on a huge scale by Academics & Pedagogues
Shame on Argentina!
Axel,
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do please explain HOW - we Islanders could continue to exercise our right to live our lifestyles and traditions and under the Govt of OUR choice - if we were to allow Argentina sovereignty of the Islands as you would wish?
In another anniversary, we will back:
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/1508019-239095.jpg
33
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“nothing would be better than a war, in order to recover popularity.”
Do you seriously believe that any British Government could have let a foreign power occupy what they considered to be their Sovereign Territory...
It would have been political suicide for any Government not to recover them...
If Chile invaded invaded Argentine territory or even disputed territory would Argentina ask them to leave nicely or ask UN peacekeepers to intervene on their behalf or negotiate from the end of a gun barrel...
You perhaps have not thought this through...
51 José
Apr 04th, 2015 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0argentina will belong to China before you ever revisit the Islands.
“Argentina is ‘malvinazing’ (Malvinas) its history, but not through chauvinist patriotism but mature nationalism”……………….. etc., etc. and soon and so forth!
Apr 04th, 2015 - 01:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0To the majority of posters who are appalled at the diatribe coming from this awful person –the President of Argentina, well said people! You have systematically and logically exposed her speech for what it is – a sad reflection on the current government of Argentina and by extension the whole country.
At this time in particular, the anniversary of the date of the illegal and brutal invasion of a peaceful British territory, people expect a degree of contrition, perhaps an olive branch held out to the people of the Falklands or, if she can’t manage that, silence! But no she has to open her big yap and prove what everybody is thinking, that Argentina is a belligerent, fascist, failed state with nothing good to offer the human race.
If she was wise she would just STFU, but alas for Argentina she is neither wise nor articulate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcC0w_X-UcQ
Apr 04th, 2015 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0haha!
Apr 04th, 2015 - 03:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is such a loser.
It is really quite funny to see them rant and rave, whilst the UK can dismiss them so easily.
Hahhaahahahaha!
The British Government is reported by Snowden to have been “circulating false propaganda and collecting intelligence with the aim of diminishing or discrediting the Argentine government”.
Apr 04th, 2015 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing new, for a moment I thought he was talking about MercoP.
So what!
Apr 04th, 2015 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you think only the Argentine government is allowed to lie because it does so pretty much on a daily basis?
Some mi6 officer is sitting in a brunos Aires bar laughing into his martini as he collects expenses for his “cunning plan” to discredit the argentine goverment.
Apr 04th, 2015 - 05:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0His plan? pass on the latest headlines job done,martinis all round:)
@ 57 ”The British Government is reported by Snowden to have been “circulating false propaganda and collecting intelligence with the aim of diminishing or discrediting the Argentine government”.
Apr 04th, 2015 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why would the British Government bother? The Argentine government is doing a good job of diminishing and discrediting itself and Argentina.
Too true.
Apr 04th, 2015 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0We don't have to try very hard as they are making such a fantastic, Godawful mess of everything that they touch.
lncompetent shower of fools.
I've heard this rumour that the USA, personified by Roberta Jacobson, admitted defeat in the Venezuela issue, stating that nobody took the sanctions seriously at the same time as Latin America tried to demonize the USA....
Apr 04th, 2015 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Come on, MP! Post the stuff!!
;)
#55
Apr 04th, 2015 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0It could have been interesting if there were sub titles BUT it was an hour of Spanish.
The bottom line is that, to put it crudely, they were losers recounting their stories.
62. Stevie, As I have told you over many years. The USA has no interest in actively trying to destroy Venezuela. We couldn't do a better job than the Gov't. Most of the citizens of Bolivarian Socialism are living like animals, with the highest murder rate in the world, more than active war zones and queing up for hours a day to buy milk or toilet paper.
Apr 04th, 2015 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They're animals
Nothing more than dumb filthy animals
and they are getting exactly what they deserve.
I can't wait for the civil unrest
even more death and destruction
if that's even possible.
@51 José Malvinero
Apr 04th, 2015 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What anniversary would that be, of hell freezing over perhaps
@57 Marcos Alejandro
Smoke and mirrors, although on the face of it the plan (whatever it was) seems to have worked brilliantly.
You should be more worried about the “implanting computer viruses” part of the report.
“Implanting” such a good word to use in the context of Argentina, don’t you think?
@64 yankeeboy
EXTERMINATE ALL VENE_ZUE_LANS.
THEY MUST DIE, EXTERMINATE, EXTERMINATE.
Not all of them just the Politicians and anyone who've supported them.
Apr 04th, 2015 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The nice part about that is Chavez required everyone who got a subsidy, worked for the Gov't or the oil company to sign a declaration of support.
So the next gov't knows exactly where to go to eradicate the scum.
I know my views are somewhat extreme but I've thought long and hard about this mental illness in the belief of Collectivism/Socialism/Statism. I don't think these people can be re-educated. I think they believe these lies right down to their DNA. That's why they need to go, simply go.
@66 yankeeboy
Apr 04th, 2015 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The destruction of an entire country with its people reduced to abject poverty.
“Somewhat extreme” – Nah, whatever gave you that idea.
Sadly, you’re probably right in your portents of doom.
We have done this before I think, I still can’t accept that such suffering is ever a good thing.
Just my view.
There's not too much suffering with a bullet to the head.
Apr 04th, 2015 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If fact it is really much more humane than what they are currently experiencing and what is about to come.
:)
“And now you know, the British have more than just bows and arrows with which to defend their territory”
Apr 04th, 2015 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pugol-H? :-)))))))
@69 Marcos Alejandro
Apr 04th, 2015 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahhh the penny drops, as we say.
And you thought it was all about counting Typhoons.
Correct, defence in ways you have yet to imagine.
@51. To die?
Apr 04th, 2015 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@57. And the supposed argie corrupt, criminal 'government' tells the truth, when?
@62. Do you think you know where the British nuclear city-busters are? Clue. Not in Britain.
@69. Do you not understand that you're already dead? Seen Trident missiles explode? Cruise missiles with nuclear warheads? Naval bombardment with nuclear shells? Nuclear torpedos? Nuclear mines? Do you really think we'd really give away our ability to annihiliate you?
@69 Marcos Alejandro
Apr 04th, 2015 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/185863/anonymous-hacks-malvinas-radio
You see it’s begun!
And “Argentina is no threat” and “committed to only peaceful means”
Yea right, next you will be telling me inflation is only 10% in Arg.
@72
Apr 04th, 2015 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is now complaining that GCHQ have been listening to CFK and all in Argentina. Wow that is a surprise NOT. We listen to everyone thats why we will be beefing up the defences in the FALKLANDS with updated armaments. Do they honestly think that we would not listen to their chatter, CFK cannot stop talking. LOL
@73 golfcronie
Apr 04th, 2015 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they weren’t listening, then someone should have been shot for dereliction of duty.
@60
Apr 04th, 2015 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Why would the British Government bother? The Argentine government is doing a good job of diminishing and discrediting itself and Argentina.”
The Argentines could not do abetter job of discrediting themselves if we paid them to-it's hilarious.
Over the years seeing the same thing over and over CFKs strategy seems to work like this, the bigger the party, the longer 2 of April holiday, the more Malvinas museums you open the more documents you declassify, the more summits you attend to and raise the problem,the more useless Malvinas offices Malvinas national institutes and archives for losers like Filmus you open, the more posters you place on public sites... the more religion you make out of a lost cause the closer you get to the recovery of the islands..(?)
Apr 05th, 2015 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Im I missing something?
@76
Apr 05th, 2015 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0And the FALKLAND ISLANDERS just carry on with their lives. Safe in the knowlegdge that the UK will not abandon them whatever happens across the water.
MY ANSWER.
Apr 05th, 2015 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Firstly, i want to thank all those who gave opinions about my lecture, which i decided to divide in three parts, due to it was too long, but as i said in my comment 26, i won't give entity to reactionaries who insult me, or who underestimate me, beside, respecting the ignorant comments of a few rabbles, who try to compare some of the policies of the argentine government with fascism, nazis etc, i just can say it's evident that those ignorants don't have idea about what living under state terrorism is.
While it is true that the members of the government from the islands manifested in different opportunities that they are disposed to talk to the argentine government about different issues, however they also said that they won't accept any discussion about the sovereignty, which is the main problem, then, their proposal of dialogue is just a farce.
On the other hand, i can understand that for many of you, it is much more convenient to keep on believing that only our representants make a too partial lecture about the historic aspects of this conflict, and about self determination. If they decided to be serious people, and investigated deeply as i did, instead of believing the propaganda of their country, they would realize that actualy this cause is much more complicated. As far as i'm concerned, i have investigated about the historic and the legal aspects of this conflict for the last 5 years, and i have signalized what both sides omit in a lot of my comments in mercopress since 2010.
On the other hand, c. f. k. was very clear respecting the posture of our country in relation to this case, in fact, in 2012 she read before the u. n. a secret proposal which was being treated between arg. and the u. k., which was based on a shared sovereignty, perhaps, it would be a good idea, because it respects the wishes and the rights of both parts.
Finally, respecting the posibility of taking the case to the i. c. j., in my comment 30, i say what i think about it.
Blah blah blah we dont go to court because the Argentina claim is a fucking joke and a judge in the Hague will send the Argentine lawyers flying back to BsAs in a day...
Apr 05th, 2015 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who are we kidding??
What ever, land theft and squatter is so common in Argentina under Narco Kirchnerism and is permissible by Argentine law if some lazy bum lands in your plot of land or property with a bunch of filthy kids.
Why are villeros allowed to built their slums on both private and public property?? Why are they entitled to housing if they are slum dwellers??
47 lsolde
Apr 05th, 2015 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”2)Revenge for the Butthurt that they feel over 1982.“
Oh yeah......yeah....right. Must have forgotten that one. Of course.
Thank you for pointing that one out.
78 axel arg
”Firstly, i want to thank all those who gave opinions about my lecture“
Oh Please!! for ”Lecture“ please read ”Mindless ranting“ AND you didn't use the word ”sepoy” once!!! What is wrong with you?
You either need :-
1/ to have a word with yourself
OR
2/ to get a check up from the neck up ( y'know? )
Try saying the word “sepoy” 3 times, really fast. It might make you feel a bit better.
@80 toooldtodieyoung,
Apr 05th, 2015 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That really cuts them to the quick.
They cannot handle defeat in any way, shape or form.
They always have to get “even”.
Must be a Sicilian thing.
@78 axel idiot,
Unfortunately for you, Axel, Argentina doesn't have ANY RIGHTS at all in the Falklands.
That kind of knocks your ridiculous “reasoning” clean out of the window.
Argentina's “rights” are on the same level as Somalia's “rights”.
That is absolutely none.
The sooner that you malvinistas realise that you have NO rights here, the better for everyone.
Then perhaps we can “dialogue” as your ridiculous Ambassador & stupid thieving president keep asking for.
Dialogue, of course, will not include ANY talk about Sovereignty of any form.
Hope this helps, Axel.
British arrogance at its best....
Apr 05th, 2015 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good for me, and great for the South American audience.
That will help indeed...
You know, the Argentine government would drastically transform itself into a prosperous, civilized and happier nation if they would only turn their nation's governance over to a successful neighbor. Chile would be ideal, but I truly doubt you'd find one of us to be willing to put up with the mess.
Apr 05th, 2015 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know...
Apr 06th, 2015 - 04:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Aysén region make appeal to neighbouring country over lack of services from own government”
“Protesters in a remote region of Chile have triggered controversy by asking Argentina to ”adopt“ them because they feel forgotten by Chile's government”
Where is that quote from?
Apr 06th, 2015 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps there is more to the story??
:-D
#82
Apr 06th, 2015 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, we admit defeat on this one. We cannot compete with Argentina in the arrogance stakes. They are the world champions by a mile.
Once again Argentina shows itself to be dishonest.
Apr 06th, 2015 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0History is based on facts not politics, and when governments start using terms such as 'malvinizing' history you know they are liars who don't have one shred of ACTUAL evidence to support their position.
Because IF Argentinas claims were true they wouldn't have try to 'rewrite' history and brainwash their children.
@87 LEPRecon
Apr 06th, 2015 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They probably would, just about different things.
#78 their was a deal on oil and fishery and who stormed off in a huff?
Apr 07th, 2015 - 04:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina so joint anything is off the table until you can learn negotiations means you don't get everything you want especially when you bring nothing to the table.
you demand negotiations over sovereignty call the islanders names etc then appear bemused that the UK and the islanders say no.
The islanders have lived without the “benefit” of Argentine rule for nearly 200 years. Please explain whats in it for the UK and the Falkland islanders?
@82 Stevie,
Apr 07th, 2015 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0So by your logic, to be thought of as “not arrogant”, we have to surrender to Argentina's will.
Couldn't care less about Argentina or you either, Stevie boy.
Take that as you like.
And this has little to do with the rest of South America.
Or does Argentina tell them what to think or do?
lf freedom from Argentina means that we have to be arrogant, then vive l'arrogance!
You are arrogant because that is who you are.
Apr 07th, 2015 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0An entire life leeching of other peoples succeses (yes, you invented antibiotics...), hasleft you lot thinking you are somehow useful for humanity...
Yes Stevie, whatever you say.
Apr 07th, 2015 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l'm arrogant & will not be controlled by a fifth rate, desperate, dysfunctional, corrupt rogue state, like Argentina.
Or their fellow travellers like our friend Stevie.
l'm arrogant enough to despise you & Argentina & all your lies.
Who are you to judge?
So if someone doesn't conform to the stevie mould, they are the judged “arrogant”?
Kiss my ass, Stevie.
92 Isolde
Apr 07th, 2015 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Who are you to judge?”
“Stevie” is “Voice” - he 'judges' everyone.
You were arrogant long before you even read my first post. It's in your blood. And you are a special case, victim of stragnated blood...
Apr 07th, 2015 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 094 Stevie
Apr 07th, 2015 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell us again about your days as a SUPA TUPA - you remember, in the 70's, the terrorism, the days you were an “anachist” - how much you and your cadre enjoyed torturing terrifying and degrading Mitrione - your glee that he peed himself, pleading for his life.
Your great Socialist ideals for Venzla - “we are all Chavez” - resulting in a bankrupt totalitarian state run by a madman, who manipulates his citizens politically by controlling who is eligible for essential foods.
sounds kinda 'arrogant' of you!
Mitrione was never tortured. That was his job description.
Apr 07th, 2015 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read some history.
96 STEVIE
Apr 07th, 2015 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...was never tortured”
A case in point - I was repeating your original arrogant bragging.
Of course, when you were called on it, and your boast was met with disdain - you amended your story.
Do you remember issuing some “ LOL 's” or “Ja Ja ja's” about it - hoping to get under our skins??
Of course, that was just your fantasy life - it turns out after all, you NEVER were a Tupa, despite telling us about fighting against the elected government in the 70's.
We never hear you support Maduro anymore.
Mind you, we NEVER hear you criticise the actions of his brutal regime, either.
In spite of your idealistic ravings, you have no integrity.
Troy Tempest @ 97
Apr 07th, 2015 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie ... er, Guzz, is no Tupamaro or former Tupamaro. He's not even Uruguayan, and he's best ignored.
What? Stevie……a troll?
Apr 07th, 2015 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can't be, he thinks that he is right all the time!
Stevie- vive l'arrogance.
(and guess what, Stevie? We still have the Falklands & you DONOT!).
Hi guys!
Apr 07th, 2015 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read the post at 94: I think we are seeing the onset of yet another breakdown.
I do hope so. :o)
99,100
Apr 07th, 2015 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0C'mon, take it easy on Stevie.
He dedicated his life to making society and the lot of the poor, better in Venzla, and Uruguay.
An ardent Socialist.. er... Communist.., no, an “Anarchist”, he was a contemporary of Pepe's, took turns driving the getaway car after bombings and bank jobs, etc....
Living in exile, a martyr.. banished by Operation Condor, he had to content himself with seeing Venzla become the Socialist utopia he and Pepe, and Chavez, dreamed of - fondly thinking back on the good old days of torturing CIA operatives... what a guy.
Seemingly ageless - he makes fun of Poppy for “being old”.
Somehow, he has moved back to Uruguay, if he is to be believed...
Stevie can't remember his boasts and his lies, from one day to the next.
And I'm the one losing it?
Apr 08th, 2015 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Easy lot! Not my fault you can't figure your own little game out.
Here's a hint, we means we, as in when you invented antibiotics, technically speaking beaten by the ante...
@ 92 lsolde
Apr 08th, 2015 - 02:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Superb post!
Quite, well... ? How should I put it ?
Oh well, following on from your example, honesty and forthrightness is best.
Isolde, my dear, you are indeed, absolutely fucking marvellous!
:-)))))))))))))
You only increase in my estimation! Everyday.
I can only hope to emulate you, one day.
You have a firm ally with me.
More strength to your elbow, as they say!
~ilsen
PS:
I am reposting this, because it needs to be said again;
“Yes [Argie-apologist], whatever you say.
l'm arrogant & will not be controlled by a fifth rate, desperate, dysfunctional, corrupt rogue state, like Argentina.
Or their fellow travellers like our friend [Argie-apologist].
I'm arrogant enough to despise you & Argentina & all your lies.
Who are you to judge?
So if someone doesn't conform to the [Argie-apologist] mould, they are the judged “arrogant”?
Kiss my ass, [Argie-apologist].”
Everybody remembers STEVIE telling us he was a SUPA TUPA !!
Apr 08th, 2015 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL !!
Hahaha ilsen!!!
Apr 08th, 2015 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0No need to try to push that button, it wont work ;)
If I hit a nerve, just say so and I will pat you, no need to cling on to Isoldes arrogance...
Better now?
;)
92 Isolde
Apr 08th, 2015 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well said!!
Thank you chaps, l try.
Apr 08th, 2015 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0lt must eat away at their very souls, to find that we are not a pushover & they will never get these lslands.
The irony is that we could/should be friends, but they just have to prove that they are better(they think)& that we will knuckle down(which we will not!).
Then of course there is the Falklands strategic position & the OIL!
So sorry for you, Argentina,(not really!), you had your chance & you blew it.
No prizes for second best.
Not much is needed in order to be better than you lot.
Apr 08th, 2015 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Traded for shit, you are quite expensive...
@ 106 Troy Tempest
Apr 08th, 2015 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never forget the best one of all: he claimed he had developed an energy machine which cost nothing to run!
Yes, I think the voices in his head are getting more strident.
NOW for TMBOA on democracy in Argentina:
“TMBOA talks with the children”
TMBOA, wanting to get on the good side of voters for her delegates, goes to visit a school in BsAs to have a chat with the kids. She talks to them about how Argentina is a powerful nation and how she wants the best for the people.
At the end of the talk, there is a section for questions, little Paula puts her hand up and says “I have two questions”
“Why did we invade the Falklands?
And why are we sending troops to the border with Chile?”
TMBOA says ”Good questions“.
But just as she is about to answer, the bell goes, and the kids go to lunch. When they come back, they sit back down and there is room for some more questions, another girl, Josephina, puts her hand up and says ”I have Four questions“
”My Questions are - Why did we invade the Falklands?
Why are we sending troops to the border with Chile?
Why did the bell go 20 minutes early?
And where is Paula?”
Out of the mouths of babes!
109 Chris
Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL,
The perpetual energy machine, how stupid is this “Stevie”?
That's only a rhetorical question, Stevie.
:-)
I wonder how many “Paula's” there are in Arg. and Venzla?
Thirteen?
Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More?
111 STEVIE,
Apr 08th, 2015 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0flippant about murder, oppression, and intimidation.
Stevie is a pillock!
Apr 08th, 2015 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0History will probably show that Argentina a once mature democracy was brought to its knees by loonys , usurpers , squatters and CFK
Apr 09th, 2015 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All ex members of the escaped nutters association from the local asylum house,
A once proud nation reduced to the begging bowl of democracy,
who claimed anything and everything that moved or rigid as long as it was in Argentina interest,
escaped nutters who, elected by the people became so obsessed with someone elses territory or land, destroyed their own country in pursuit of this and other false claims, just to give CFK the lunatic her victory,
history, would you read it, lolol
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