Colombia's President Juan Manuel Santos has ordered the resumption of bombing raids against FARC rebels after an attack he blamed on the group killed 10 soldiers, a move that will intensify combat after efforts to cool tensions. Read full article
Zuñiga and Uribe predicted that these peace talks were a scam to get Santos re elected. Too bad the Colombians, were fooled by some easy group stage in the WC and the populist lies of Santos and Piedad Cordoba.
We should nationalize Uribe Argetine, the best president in Latin America of the last two decades.
The Angolan civil war lasted 28 years, there is significant parallels to the Colombian war against FARC. UNITA only dismantled itself after losing profit from the diamond trade and its leader Jonas Savimbi was betrayed and executed. The only difference is that there was direct foreign powers involved in Angola and the division was also fueled by sectarian and tribal groups opposing Dos Santos MPLA
Now Marulanda Tiro Fijo is dead but he has certainly prepared his successors for continued war.
The leaders need to be killed. Even if they are in Cuba or Venezuela you still need officers running things in the jungle in Colombia. Cut the head of the snake.
That hasn’t being done ever in 50 years, only President Uribe got close to achieving that, and had no other term in office.
@ 5 CabezaDura2
Julius Caesar never lost a war he fought as the overall commander, not one.
He did however lose his head to the notion of being KING, a position that is about as far removed from the republic as possible.
Having had Mark Antony offer him the crown several times on his return to Rome from his defeat of Pompey but was rejected by the mob each time he still persevered and his craven enemies were enjoined to attempt to kill him and were successful.
Caesar was without doubt a major influence for the leaders of the future, even to this day some children are named by their parents with some version of 'Caesar'.
Some interesting, and knowlegdable post here, chaps.
Thank you, but any solutions?
Some have suggest an external force getting involved to 'wipe-out' the FARC.
The only ones possible, the only ones that have showed any interest, is the USA.
They have already spent billions, but fear too much 'in-depth/up-country' involvement. The Vietnam 'spectre' hangs heavily.
So, reality is, that ain't gonna happen.
So what else remains?
Another 51 years of killing?
Or some attempt at resolution? Maybe 10 years of 'talks'?
what is better?
I can't see anyone 'winning' this.
Time to look for a new way forward.
I wish there were some easy answers, but there are not.
9.
There were no foreign powers involved when the Angolan war finished. Cuba and the USSR disputed South Africa in the 70s and 80s, but there was another 12 years of Angolan only civil war after they left.
I’m afraid that the answer to your questions addresses those negative sides of democracy.
Colombia in 50 years of rebellion and drug trafficking has enjoyed the one of the most stable and democratic recent histories of latam.
So there was no long term policy to annihilate them, instead you have periods of war and periods of indifference. According to each Casa de Nariño government priorities. So that thing you keep on saying about 51 years of killing needs to be put in context.
In a monarchy you would have a King that would at least govern the nation in order to deliver a stronger and stable State to the prince when he inherited the crown.
The best thing as I said is cut off the leadership's ability to rage war. But Colombia must take the costly political decision of cutting ties with Ecuador, Venezuela and Cuba, the countries that harbor and support the FARC bosses.
You also need something equivalent to the tackling of illegal diamond trade that financed UNITA and other Sub-Saharan rebellions and terror groups but on cocaine.
To remind:
The so-called la violencia exploded in Colombia after the murder of Jose Eliecer Gaitan in 1948! No kidding!
What has President Santos been doing these days? He seems to be thoroughly incompetent- and no saint either.
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Apr 16th, 2015 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just when is the government going to grab this problem and kill the lot of them?
Yes, some will still rise up to take their place but they will all eventually be expunged from the country.
Zuñiga and Uribe predicted that these peace talks were a scam to get Santos re elected. Too bad the Colombians, were fooled by some easy group stage in the WC and the populist lies of Santos and Piedad Cordoba.
Apr 16th, 2015 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We should nationalize Uribe Argetine, the best president in Latin America of the last two decades.
Wait, didn't Obama just certify that Cuba is no longer a haven for terrorists?
Apr 16th, 2015 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doesn't Cuba support FARC?
There are no winners in this war, and I doubt there ever will be.
Apr 16th, 2015 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 04.
Apr 17th, 2015 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0How did Alexander the Great, Ghengis Khan, Cornelius Scipio and Julius Ceasar lose in war??
@5 CD2
Apr 17th, 2015 - 02:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Different days, different times.
A different form of warfare.
51 years without a winner?
Maybe time for a re-think?
PS: Julius Ceasar lost his most important battle. The political one.
Et Tu Brutus?
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Apr 17th, 2015 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Angolan civil war lasted 28 years, there is significant parallels to the Colombian war against FARC. UNITA only dismantled itself after losing profit from the diamond trade and its leader Jonas Savimbi was betrayed and executed. The only difference is that there was direct foreign powers involved in Angola and the division was also fueled by sectarian and tribal groups opposing Dos Santos MPLA
Now Marulanda Tiro Fijo is dead but he has certainly prepared his successors for continued war.
The leaders need to be killed. Even if they are in Cuba or Venezuela you still need officers running things in the jungle in Colombia. Cut the head of the snake.
That hasn’t being done ever in 50 years, only President Uribe got close to achieving that, and had no other term in office.
@ 5 CabezaDura2
Apr 17th, 2015 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Julius Caesar never lost a war he fought as the overall commander, not one.
He did however lose his head to the notion of being KING, a position that is about as far removed from the republic as possible.
Having had Mark Antony offer him the crown several times on his return to Rome from his defeat of Pompey but was rejected by the mob each time he still persevered and his craven enemies were enjoined to attempt to kill him and were successful.
Caesar was without doubt a major influence for the leaders of the future, even to this day some children are named by their parents with some version of 'Caesar'.
Some interesting, and knowlegdable post here, chaps.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you, but any solutions?
Some have suggest an external force getting involved to 'wipe-out' the FARC.
The only ones possible, the only ones that have showed any interest, is the USA.
They have already spent billions, but fear too much 'in-depth/up-country' involvement. The Vietnam 'spectre' hangs heavily.
So, reality is, that ain't gonna happen.
So what else remains?
Another 51 years of killing?
Or some attempt at resolution? Maybe 10 years of 'talks'?
what is better?
I can't see anyone 'winning' this.
Time to look for a new way forward.
I wish there were some easy answers, but there are not.
In this case, dialogue is the only hope.
9.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There were no foreign powers involved when the Angolan war finished. Cuba and the USSR disputed South Africa in the 70s and 80s, but there was another 12 years of Angolan only civil war after they left.
I’m afraid that the answer to your questions addresses those negative sides of democracy.
Colombia in 50 years of rebellion and drug trafficking has enjoyed the one of the most stable and democratic recent histories of latam.
So there was no long term policy to annihilate them, instead you have periods of war and periods of indifference. According to each Casa de Nariño government priorities. So that thing you keep on saying about 51 years of killing needs to be put in context.
In a monarchy you would have a King that would at least govern the nation in order to deliver a stronger and stable State to the prince when he inherited the crown.
The best thing as I said is cut off the leadership's ability to rage war. But Colombia must take the costly political decision of cutting ties with Ecuador, Venezuela and Cuba, the countries that harbor and support the FARC bosses.
You also need something equivalent to the tackling of illegal diamond trade that financed UNITA and other Sub-Saharan rebellions and terror groups but on cocaine.
Plan LAZO anyone? No?
Apr 19th, 2015 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0No bells?
Ahh, you thought we forgot....
A retard anyone ?? Yes above.
Apr 19th, 2015 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0To remind:
Apr 21st, 2015 - 07:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0The so-called la violencia exploded in Colombia after the murder of Jose Eliecer Gaitan in 1948! No kidding!
What has President Santos been doing these days? He seems to be thoroughly incompetent- and no saint either.
Philippe
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