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Argentina again threatens Falklands' oil companies with legal actions, this time in London
Argentina's Secretary of State for Malvinas Affairs, Daniel Filmus, defended Argentina´s sovereignty rights over the Falkland Islands in a speech he delivered in London condemning UK´s recent decision to increase its military presence in the South Atlantic, outlined the scope of the criminal lawsuit against oil companies 'illegally' operating in Falklands/Malvinas waters and warned of the environmental risks these activities entail. Read full article
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Apr 18th, 2015 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Slightly misleading title:
Filmus gave the speech in London, he didn't file the charges there.
Have the charges only been filed in Argentina? That is not clear.
The UK may have nobly given him the platform to speak, but I can't see any British Court accepting this.
Argentina and the UK do not enjoy strong links.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0We have diplomatic relations but these are currently hanging by a thread.
As for the American Snowden....Argentina would be foolish to believe anything that comes out of this Putin puppets mouth.
Simply attempting to have UK and USA businessmen arrested and extradited to Argentina would represent an escalation of the dispute, the consequences of which could be serious and far reaching for Argentinians.
Once again very poor Judgement from Mrs Kirchner.
Silly Argie Liar- Just like all most who live there of .
Apr 18th, 2015 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lie 1.
There has been No and neither is any Increase in Military defence in the Islands.All that is being done is some buildings and stystems now 30 years old are being replaced as they are no longer fit for purpose - and a new School is being built!
Force levels have actually DECREASED in the last 10-15years.
Lie 2.
Environmental Risk - All operations in the Islands EEZ are 100% under the control of the Islands Govt - who insist they are operated to the top level of current European North sea Standards - Filmus tell us - how to those rate alongside argie standards please?
Lie 3 - An oil Spill would cause pollution to Argentina mainland within 20 days!! Bullshit - look at the prevailing winds and currents! Tests and studies have actually shown that one on the current drilling area could actually be at least 20 days before it even hit north Falklands - IF it did at all.
What wincer facilities and kit exists on ships in Rio Gallegos and Rio Grande ready for instant use then?
Lie 4- Arg only wants peace- Then why did your last Defence Minsister publicly state that it was ONLY the current Br Military garrison that was preventing Arg military from re-taking the Islands.
Why does Arg still occasionally sent an Air Force Aircraft towards the Islands until it spots a British Fighter scrambled to come towards it?
Why then have you never issued a formal public apology to the people of the islands for the military invasion of 1982?
Filmus pointed out that an extradition agreement existed between Britian and Argentina. Like that is ever going to happen!
Apr 18th, 2015 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can you imagine that court room, are they going to use sock puppets to represent the missing oil executives? Maybe mannequins...
Apr 18th, 2015 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ We will apply the full weight of Argentine legislation and international law in order to prevent the resources that belong to 40 million Argentine citizens from being taken away” They have no weight, none, just like a over cooked noodle they are completely talking out their ass.
the only valid response from the whole south america to these squatters, thieves, arrivistes and go-getters, must be isolating them in the most radical manner.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0no more flights to or from the islets to south american countries, and that, of course, includes chilotelandia, now ruled by a decent fat chilota.
the cost will be that no argentine will be able to visit the graves of the fallen soldiers in malvinas, but i guess we can do it no problema.
and of course a massive ban for british vessels to dock in south american ports is mandatory.
as they wisely say, england has nothing to do in south america.
Christ, I almost feel awkward for them.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is FiImus even actually a minister? Can you be a minister without being elected in Argentina or has MP simply got that wrong. Would Argentina be willing to host a response to this in the BA equivalent of Canning House? I doubt it.
6
You keep harping on about banning our flight from Chile and cutting all links but you don't do it. Why not?
I say again,
Apr 18th, 2015 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0that both the MoJ and the FCO make it clear that if Filmus makes any derogatory comment regarding the Falkland Islanders he will be prosecuted for a Hate Crime and Great Britain will seek his extradition for it, if not from Argentina, then anywhere else worldwide he sets foot.
Two can play this game.
@6. Don't you worry, Pablo. You can visit your 'fallen soldiers'. I confidently expect them to be dug up and then ejected from the rear ramp of a C-130. Mustn't enter you r territorial airspace so you can guess where the crap will be ejected. Paddle out and pay your respects. Mind you, most of the shite will probably be liquid by now. Replace 'eject' with 'squirt'. No more argies on the Islands, EVER.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paulie- silly boy - last time your silly Presedentia tried to stop cruise vessels coming to the Islands- Red ensign ones in particular it all blew up in her face and Argentina started to loose far far more tourism that the islands did - so it was all quickly dropped!
Apr 18th, 2015 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Little children shouldn't play with fire.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's obviously up to the Islanders but at this time of increased tension I would certainly support a suspension of flights from Argentina.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 nabo/idiot child/payaso/mamarrach0
Apr 18th, 2015 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“as they wisely say, england has nothing to do in south america.” For once, I totally agree with you. England - I suppose you mean the United Kingdom/Great Britain - has no interest in South America other than to maintain friendly social and trade relations with the many nations in that sub continent.
However, if you include the Falkland Islands in South America then you are totally and absolutely mistaken. Not even geographically does the archipelago belong to South America and it is well beyond all maritime limits as defined by the United Nations.
fatso / gordo tirapedos / ball of fat / uncontrollable farter
Apr 18th, 2015 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so the islets are not in south america, you fart blower?
and where the fuck are they situated then?
in europe?
oceania?
asia?
north america?
central america?
africa?
a new continent created by your tiny little brain?
have you ever in your sad life watched a map, you fatso?
they are part of the patagonian continental shelf, but according to you, bag of methane gas, they are not in south america?
imbecility + poor education + fat clogging the tiny little brain you have in that fat head..
now i understand when you deny the fact that they are part of argentina.
And how exactly is Argentina going to apply the full weight of international legislation, and what legislation is that anyway? What is Filmus now, the Man from UNCLE? “150 people including UK government officials” must have been truly wetting themselves .....
Apr 18th, 2015 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 nabo/idiot child/payaso/mamarracho
Apr 18th, 2015 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland archipelago is situated in the South Atlantic Ocean outside the maritime limits of countries of the South American subcontinent, similar situation as other islands in the Atlantic Ocean such as Bermuda, Santa Helena, South Georgia, South Sandwich and Tristan da Cunha.
gordo lanza gases
Apr 18th, 2015 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0nobody expects anything from an ignorant benny hillbilly like you, you ignorant fatso.
anyhow, it is not that difficult, even for an ignorant fatso like you, to google the list of south american islands.
so here you have a little help, you ignorant fart blower
List of islands of South America
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_of_South_America#Atlantic_Ocean_islands
you dont even know the concept of continent, do you, you ignorant fatso?
falkland islands education system...YUCK
@12. There are no flights from argieland except the LAN stopover.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14. Listen up, fartarse. They are in the South Atlantic. Ever heard of Saint Pierre et Miquelon? 16 miles from Newfoundland, Canada. 2,373 miles from France. See how much your 'claim' of territorial proximity means? You fat, little, meaningless, ass-squitting moron!
Wanna be nuked? Push it, imbecile.
18 genetic aberration
Apr 18th, 2015 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are not too bright, are you, you genetic aberration?
the flight of lan crosses our magnificent airspace, you retarded benny hillbilly.
that will be totally banned, of course.
and even worse for you, ball of grease, lan will suspend them.
so your visits to punta arenas (lol) as if that stinky place was paris, will be sorely forgotten, no?
and again, you piece of crap, try to study geography, but not in that joke of pork stanley community school, and then talk.
you bennys cannot understand simple concepts like continent, you dont even know the etymology of the word, but you want to discuss where the fuck the islets are situated... pathetic.
Argentina. So powerless it can't even stop a foreign airline from Chile overflying its airspace.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for pointing that out Paul.
#18 Conqueror
Apr 18th, 2015 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina signed an international treaty guaranteeing the weekly service from Chile, and although it would not be the first time that Argentina might violate an agreement, it would result in serious repercussions and international condemnation. DAP airlines would then most likely set up a replacement service flying from Punta Arenas skirting the Argentine airspace to the south. Longer, but easily doable. It's already been studied.
I ask the everyone on this thread to please forgive the rantings of our bed pan cleaning specialist, “Paulcedron” as he's currently transitioning through gender reassignment and the aggressive hormonal treatment has made it completely impossible to reason with his already mentally challenged and pathetically ignorant pathological lying Campora glue sniffing damaged mind.
@21
Apr 18th, 2015 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear, it must be very challanging for him, poor dear.
And still the British Colonial Power still rules eh! Who shall we colonise next? Answers on a postcard to paul c/o The diplomatic bag casa rosada BA.
funny to read the comments of this retarded chilote.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0not even his countrymen agree with the imbecile.
and a lot less his government.
maybe the twat thinks that pinochet is still in charge, fact that he would love for sure.
try to lick the stinky asses of these bennys in a better way, you chilote ass licker.
they still stink.
@23 Are all Argies as uncouth as you or are there decent Argies?
Apr 18th, 2015 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 Paulinacedron
Apr 18th, 2015 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you’re talking geology then they are on the Falklands plateau of the S. American continental plate.
If you are talking geography then they are in the S. Atlantic Ocean.
If it is geopolitical, then they are one of the British territories in that region.
Argentina is a S. American country with no history or presence in that region.
Might I suggest you ask the Doctors to review your medication, something is clearly not right.
You appear to be developing Tourette syndrome.
@21 Chicureo
Lol.
#24 golfcronie
Apr 18th, 2015 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like I said, please forgive his mentally deluded rantings. The hormone therapy alone has him ravingly stark mad. His profane ignorant character is a product of a declining Argentine culture. It's sad really that he's so envious of my country's success in now being far superior to his failed state. Forty years ago, his country had a far higher per capita income, a better literacy rate, superior schools and universities, far better medical facilities, a much more robust economy, a far better credit rating and certainly a better Navy and Air Force. Today it's completely the opposite! Argentines are quickly following the path of Venezuela and will soon sink to the level of nations such as Zimbabwe.
Did anyone see any burning tires or burning Arg flag? Were there any paid protesters?
Apr 18th, 2015 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah I thought not
UK is civilized and respects free speech.
This could actually work out extremely well for the islanders as there is an overwhelming probability that the Argentine case will be dismissed. This would legally establish that the rights to the petroleum fields belong to the FIG.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- - -
Oh yeah, I forgot...
...Argentines don't respect international laws or treaties...
(#25 Paulcedron should take your advice.)
Its called freedom, to run your own country and to make decisions,
Apr 18th, 2015 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but as, as it seems we no longer run our own country,
we will have to wait until after the referendum, and then perhaps ask the EU if we can reply.
just saying like.
Paulie- Funny- I do a LOT of business with Chile and visit there - have never ever met a Chilean with a good word for Argentina- met plenty who quietly support the rights of us islanders though!- including current Chilean politicians.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pugol en contra
Apr 18th, 2015 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“If you are talking geography then they are in the S. Atlantic Ocean.
If it is geopolitical, then they are one of the British territories in that region.”
are you always so imbecile?
do you train to be so imbecile?
or you have been “educated” at the pork stanley community school?
do you think that because they are islands they do not belong to south america, you imbecile?
anyway, lets see if world atlas includes those islets in south america...
...and yes, they are part of south america, you retarded benny hillbilly.
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/sa.htm
again, the problem is that you dont understand what the fuck is a continent.
but do not despair, it is not only you.
it is a genetic problem, bunch of retards.
foul-mouthed pcedron,
Apr 18th, 2015 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TROLL
AGENT PROVOCATEUR.
Idiot child
30 isleter 1 neurone
Apr 18th, 2015 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I do a LOT of business with Chile and visit there ”
lol...begging for money in a “street” of punta arenas is not doing business you ass.
Paulie- soory don't spend much time there so would have missed you on the street corner. I go further north and do something called business - about £1/2 million in products a year we buy from Chile
Apr 18th, 2015 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 031 paulcedron
Apr 18th, 2015 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“do you think that because they are islands they do not belong to south america,” not only do I know their not, the ICJ says they're not. Here's the reality thus: ”International Court of Justice (ICJ) in the North Sea continental shelf cases, in which Denmark and the Netherlands based their claim inter alia on the doctrine of proximity, i.e., that the part of the continental shelf closest to the part of the state in question falls automatically under that state's jurisdiction. In these cases the ICJ rejected any contiguity type of approach. As for continuity, it is argued, the 1958 Geneva Convention on the Continental Shelf and Contiguous Zone, Article 1, now contained in the 1982 Law of the Sea Convention, Article 76, does not support the view that coastal states have sovereignty over islands above the continental shelf. On the contary it laid down doctrine that islands had their own “continental shelves,” p.74 The Falklands/Malvinas Case Breaking the Deadlock in the Anglo-Argentine... By Roberto C. Laver
#34 Islander1
Apr 18th, 2015 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for your patronage. A great advantage doing with Chile is that we don't tax exporters products, which help make us competitive on world markets. It also nice our officials don't demand bribes.
As a favor, please be gentle with our dear friend the bed pan cleaning specialist, “Paulcedron” as he's/she's currently transitioning through a difficult gender reassignment and just received the bad news that his national health insurance will not pay for his upcoming breast implant proceedure. As you can imagine, it's put him/she into a really foul mood.
@21Chicureo
Apr 18th, 2015 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ DAP airlines would then most likely set up a replacement service flying from Punta Arenas skirting the Argentine airspace to the south. Longer, but easily doable. It's already been studied.”
Ironically I once spoke with some DAP pilots in Stanley who told me that they were not to keen on Argentines, and were delighted to tell me about the RAF aircraft painted up in Chilean air force colours in 1982. They also hoped to have seen RAF Phantoms and Buccaneers in Chile but the Chilean government would not go that far .When talking to Punta Arenas ATC, they were quite proud to point out that RAF Nimrods had been refuelled there in 1982.
And if flying round Argentine air space cost more, the Islanders would no doubt foot the bill, and I doubt the Chileans would forgo the £millions they get from the Islands-Argentina not too hot on geography are they?
@31
“are you always so imbecile?
do you train to be so imbecile?”
And of all the comments, yours are those of a first class imbecile-how ironic.
@34
“about £1/2 million in products a year we buy from Chile”
Chile's gain-Argentina's loss.
#37 Pete
Apr 18th, 2015 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, air flights would continue and there would be no longer the inconvenient stop in Argentina, so flight time would be more or less the same. LAN would not be a part of he service because the Argentine government would put tremendous difficulties up against LAN Argentina. What Argentines also fail to forget is that Chile has an an ATLANTIC coast and has overflight access south of the middle of the Beagle Channel.
It's unfortunate due to political pressure that our politicians mimic that “Las Malvinas” belongs to our whining neighbors, but few Chileans take them seriously. Most of us still vividly remember 1978.
IdiotCedron: it has been stated elsewhere and many times to you slow-witted idiots that the Falkland Islands are not on the S. American tectonic plate. You may have heard of “geology”, it's a science that educated people study. No, it is not part of South America.
Apr 18th, 2015 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stop flights from South America? There would be a diplomatic outcry from Chile. You've tried it before and it wasn't a great idea. Stop RGs visiting? Fine. They are quite possibly the rudest, most discourteous visitors the islands get. I wouldn't be sorry to see the end of them, but your friend Filmus has said he will be visiting (looking forward to meeting him).
RGland was offered in early on and they said that under no circumstances would they go into business with the Falkland Islands and that there was no oil or gas anyway. Odd how they want in now.
Environmental issues? Fracking seems to be OK in RGland, they aren't too bothered with environmental issues when it suits them. They've been drilling oil in the North Sea for 50 years and there have been very few monumental problems.
They want to steal themselves back to greatness by not paying their debts and seize the natural resources of the South Atlantic.
Apr 19th, 2015 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0The failed country once ranked a century ago among the seven richest in the world, after the likes of Australia, Britain and the United States, but ahead of France, Germany and Italy. Chile was its poor neighbor and Buenos Aires was the “Paris” of South America. When I first entered the Naval Academy, both Argentina's Navy and Air Force were the best in Latin America.
They are one of the few nations that's liter each rate has actually declined according to UNESCO.
Given Argentina's insignificance as a country and usual self abasement, I am sure the only response this evoked on the part of the oil companies was laughter.
Apr 19th, 2015 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is so funny!
Apr 19th, 2015 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Some people really don't understand when they have lost!
lol!
Chicureo- Yes Chile is a good Country to do business with and buy from. Simple Straight and open- corrupt free and a general “can do-lets make it happen” attitude to exports to small places from your authorities.
Apr 19th, 2015 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0One expression that always amuses me that folks tell me “ There is one problem between Chile and the Falklands” - Oh? I say - smiles and they answer “Its the bit in the middle”!
Yes the export taxes of others in S.America always puzzle me - I always thought you wanted to encourage exports - not tax the overseas buyer because he wants to buy from you!
Here we appreciate and understand Chile,s position politically, quietly you and us get on and do business and we are the Falkland Islands to your Customs etc- in public at the UN you have to keep the neighbours happy _ I would not want to be the Chilean president that had to take phone calls from the lady in BA screeching in my ear about the Malvinas otherwise!
Again: everybody can rant as much as they can about how they disagree with Argentina's claim on the Malvinas.
Apr 19th, 2015 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0But nobody can prevent Argentina from pushing its claim in all available forums.
I disagreed with the 1982 invasion--however, I did and continue to support all peaceful, diplomatic ways the Argentina government may use to recover the Malvinas.
44
Apr 19th, 2015 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina can push its claim however it wants.
But nobody can tell Britain it has to listen.
I supported the UK's response to the illegal invasion by Argentina in 1982 and support all means including military action to keep Argentinians out and retain the Falkland Islands for Britain and the Falkland Islanders.
Good to see more and more programmes on UK TV about the Falklands and how well the Islanders (our kith and kin) have prospered since they were liberated.
@44 Enrique
Apr 19th, 2015 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0But as noted in the other thread, Argentina is not pushing it's claim “in all available” forums at all. In fact it is conspicuously not pushing its claim in the only forum that could materially alter the status quo, although it has had almost 100 years in which it could have done so. Meanwhile, its systematic attempts to denigrate the islanders and undermine their economy are neither diplomatic nor peaceful, and if anything have only further reduced any possibility Argentina ever had of bringing its claim to fruition. Most curious of all is that Argentina systematically and repeatedly rejects dialogue and negotiation, while loudly proclaiming that's all it wants.
Isn't it about time to wonder why Argentina's behaviour is so consistently and frequently in opposition to its claimed goal?
@31 nabo/idiot child/payaso/mamarracho/paulcedron
Apr 19th, 2015 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for your link www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/sa.htm
which clearly shows the Falkland Islands and South Georgia Islands as being UK territories NOT Argentine. But as the map also shows the southern portions of the both the Atlantic and the Pacific Oceans it does not prove your point.
All it proves is that the Falkland Islands are situated in the Southern HEMISPHERE and the South Atlantic Ocean.
Keep trying................you have any more proof?
@44
Apr 19th, 2015 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh do tell us in single syllables so that all us “ bennys” understand , who exactly gave the FALKLANDS to Argentina? What year would that be ? and would you like to prove in writing something pertinent to the time of acquiring the FALKLANDS. My understanding although I was not alive at the time that Argentina was not even a country in 1833. Anyway you blew it when the military decided to go to war with the UK over the FALKLANDS. Shame YOU LOST EH?
“But nobody can prevent Argentina from pushing its claim in all available forums.
Apr 19th, 2015 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0I disagreed with the 1982 invasion--however, I did and continue to support all peaceful, diplomatic ways the Argentina government may use to recover the Malvinas.”“
You cant ”recover” the Falklands, you have NEVER owned them, other by military action, and the UN backed the UK's right to kick you off them again.
The peaceful, diplomatic way to have ANYTHING to do with the Falklands is to talk to the Falklands Islanders .
When you can grasp those fundamentals you will get to have a say, until then you are just spouting government rhetoric with no real concerns or thoughts toward the Islands.
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@31 - child, South America is clearly shown and is clearly known to have had an indigenous native population which your kin colonised by force of arms.
It isnt yours, STOP SQUATTING ON IT and go back to Spain.
gordo tirapedos
Apr 19th, 2015 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0clearly you cannot understand a simple map, can you fatty fartblower?
is that another of your main features, apart from farting in an uncontrollable way?
google the countries and territories that conform south america or sudámerica, fatso.
it has to be genetic...
49 pedazo de forro
and who the fuck told you that there is not native indigenous population here, you retarded benny?
merdopress?
@50
Apr 19th, 2015 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are all Argies uncouth or do you have to work on it? The only indigenous population that remains is because you failed to irradicate them all. General Roca one of your heros failed in his attempts to completely detroy them.
Never mind, you will have no chance of getting the FALKLANDS but of course you know that don't you?
50 paulcedron
Apr 19th, 2015 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clearly you cannot understand a simple ruling by the ICJ, that nearness to SA has absolutely no bearing on the matter.It's probably the seventh time troll, I've rebuffed that utterance. ”International Court of Justice (ICJ) ...based their claim inter alia on the doctrine of proximity, i.e., that the part of the continental shelf closest to the part of the state in question falls automatically under that state's jurisdiction. In these cases the ICJ rejected any contiguity type of approach. As for continuity, it is argued, the 1958 Geneva Convention on the Continental Shelf and Contiguous Zone, Article 1, now contained in the 1982 Law of the Sea Convention, Article 76, does not support the view that coastal states have sovereignty over islands above the continental shelf. On the contary it laid down doctrine that islands had their own “continental shelves,” p.74 The Falklands/Malvinas Case Breaking the Deadlock in the Anglo-Argentine...By Roberto C. Laver
@19. Hey ho, a real NAZI. 'our magnificent airspace'. Is that the same airspace that will enable us to drop bombs and launch missiles? From aircraft that you can't see? From heights that you can't reach? Just imagine an RAF Typhoon launching a pair of Storm Shadow cruise missiles. Then another Typhoon. Then another. You get the idea.
Apr 19th, 2015 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've never been to that bigoted, corrupt, criminal, poverty-stricken, racist place south of the United States. I'm concerned about contagion and infection.
You see, you drug-crazed, drunken, brainwashed specimen of sub-humanity, I don't live on the Islands. OUR Islands. I wish I did. I would be pressing for 'our' government to be asking the British government for nuclear missiles so that we could fire one in your direction every time you opened your filthy mouth.
@24. There are a few decent ones. Look out for Simon68. But Pablo the Perv isn't unusual. It's the completely justified feelings of inadequacy. I reckon most Brits could take out argies with few problems. Argies like to run!
@26. According to the American movie rights Filmus, there are 44 million argies. Apparently, it's been able to produce 4 million bastards since 2010. Do you think there are 15 million pricks?
@28. Sorry? A case being 'heard' by an argie judge, in an argie court in argieland according to argie 'law'? The 'defendants', never having been heard, will be found 'guilty'. The 'judgment' has already been written, the 'judge' has been paid. Or promised that he won't commit suicide.
@31. You use the word 'imbecile' a lot, Pablo. Is that what mummy and daddy chimp call you?
@33. You're so much better, aren't you? Shoving your arse out of a window so that any passerby can poke it!
@38. Suppose the RAF and Chilean Air Force created a 200-mile wide uninhabitated route?
@44. Why are you hiding in Canada?
@50. You do know that being foul makes you ugly, don't you? Still, with your single eye, fractured skull, single ear, split nose, harelip, cleft palate...!
@44 Enrique
Apr 19th, 2015 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“But nobody can prevent Argentina from pushing its claim in all available forums.”
It is not using all forums-Timmerman was offered talks in the UK in 2013 but refused because Islanders were present-this is despite Argentina claiming that UN resolution 2065 is still relevant.
It is in the Islander's interests to be present at any meetings to discuss their future, yet Timmerman refused to meet them(because he has never read Resolution 2065).
This was a golden chance for Timerman to persuade the Islanders that being Argentine was a good idea, but he passed this forum up.
This was an 'available forum' which Argentina did not pursue, so Argentina's claim to pursue 'every' forum is a clear untruth.
@50 Nabo/idiot child/payaso/mamarracho/paulcedron
Apr 19th, 2015 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In my @47 I pointed out to you that your link was not sufficient proof to support your allegations. I asked if you had any further proof to which you reply with your usual juvenile vulgarity BUT no further evidence to support your twisted views.
Case closed, then! The Falklands archipelago is NOT, never has been, nor will ever be part of Argentina.
@31 paulcedron
Apr 19th, 2015 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even if they do “belong to S. America as a geographic or geological continent”, they are the British part of it.
Doesn’t matter where you classify it as being, it is still British, isn’t it.
Not all of the continent of S. America belongs to Argentina, does it?
No, especially not the British part of it.
It’s not a question of where it is but of who owns it, we do, you don’t, wherever it is.
Clear now.
44 Enrique Massot (#)
Apr 19th, 2015 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 19th, 2015 - 08:01 am
“...I disagreed with the 1982 invasion...”
Enrique, if you really disagreed with the 1982 “invasion”, you must logically also deny that we have any legitimate rights over the Falkland Islands. We could not “invade” our own territory!!!!!!!!!!!!
#57 Simon68
Apr 19th, 2015 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As an educated and reasonable Argentine, you may disagree with the Chilean version of history, but prior to the 1879 Guerra del Pacífico, the entire southern Patagonia was a part of Chile. (Argentina blackmailed Chile to give up the region or fight.) Therefore any Spanish inherited rights of the Falklands would have rightfully belonged to Chile. After an exhaustive review of all maps prior to 1879, you'll find none showing the Falklands pertaining to be a part of any South American country which completely negates the delusional rantings of our glue sniffing la Campora bed pan cleaning mentally challenged and pathetically ignorant pathological lying troll “Paulcedron” who's currently transitioning through gender reassignment.
@57 Simon68
Apr 19th, 2015 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There must be many other Argentines with similar views to yours. Can all of you be persuaded to take a more active role in the matter of the Falklands/Malvinas?
“ An oil spill in the area would have an impact on the ecosystem that would last for decades” says Filmus ignoring the fact of the RIACHUELO BASIN in Argentina. 13 Slums numerous illegal sewage outfalls and 42 open garbage dumps. And here he is trying to say that the oil companies are an environmental disaster waiting to happen, he ought to go to the RIACHUELO BASIN to see pollution. Be my guest folks GOOGLE RIACHUELO BASIN and see if I am telling the truth. One of rivers of 15 rivers considered to be the worst in the world. LOOK CLOSER TO HOME BEFORE COMMENTING FILMUS.
Apr 19th, 2015 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thinking an of an alternative version of history, Chile should have given Patagonia in 1879 to the British Empire. The colony would eventually develop into a modern commonwealth prosperous independent nation similar to Canada, much to the benefit of Chile.
Apr 19th, 2015 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0gordo tirapedos
Apr 19th, 2015 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0your words:
“However, if you include the Falkland Islands in South America then you are totally and absolutely mistaken. Not even geographically does the archipelago belong to South America and it is well beyond all maritime limits as defined by the United Nations.”
now, if the islets are not in south america, in what continent are they, you reverendo boludo?
do you know how many continents exist?
do you understand the concept / definition / etymology of continent, you flatulent fatso?
@62
Apr 19th, 2015 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you a typical Argie or is the attitude you display a one off? I have met many Argentinians whilst working in your country in 1968, I cannot remember them being anything like you, you must work very hard at it or were you taught that in school? TOODLEPIP OLD SPORT.
#63 golfcronie
Apr 19th, 2015 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are three types of Argentines inhabiting what was once a civilized, democratic, prosperous and respected nation.
-Well educated hard working citizens that are appalled by their country's decline.
-Typical Argentines that are disappointed in the Peronist politicians and will not probably vote for them in the next elections because their economic situation is presently lousy.
-The massive ignorant politically brainwashed economic parasites that follow the la Cámpora banners of national corruption, deceit and international theft.
“Paulcedron” belongs to the third group and is hallucinating as usual due to his hormonal gender reassignment delusions affecting the few working brain cells he has functioning. The troll brilliantly asks #59: “...do you know how many continents exist?” The correct answer varies from 6 to 7 depending on which educational system you were taught in, but in the Cámpora Peronist mentality it really doesn't matter as all they want is to use whatever ridiculous excuse imaginable to press their mythical claims to the South Atlantic, including Antarctica.
62 paulcedron
Apr 19th, 2015 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You must be new to the field to the field of geography. Since there are many Islands that exist, and by that very fact are not part of any continent. For example Greenland, Iceland all of the Caribbean Islands, are not considered part of the American continent; which include Cuba which is just over 160 kms from the Florida Keys. Moreover, the ICJ has ruled that it does not support the view that coastal states have sovereignty over islands above the continental shelf. On the contary it laid down doctrine that islands have their own “continental shelves”. So as we like to say “Close, but no cigar”.
Talking abt Chile,
Apr 19th, 2015 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I read yesterday that you guys have had some encounter with or sighted a UFO,
was this true or just a newspaper report..
65 terence
Apr 19th, 2015 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0did you attend the same school as the gordo tirapedos?
so, according to you, you genius, the caribbean islands are NOT in america??
my god...
“The region is southeast of the Gulf of Mexico and the North American mainland, east of Central America, and north of South America.”
seriously, have you ever read a geography book or a map?
is that the average level of knowledge in the islets?
here you have a map.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Caribbean-4.png
now, where the fuck are those islands and territories, eh??
...hillbillies.
the caribbean islands are NOT in america??
Apr 19th, 2015 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WELL,
Technically they are not in America,
they are a group of islands hundreds of miles of the coast of America,
just saying like....
league of morons:
Apr 19th, 2015 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0continents, you morons, include continental shelf, continental islands and oceanic islands.
do you, imbeciles, want to create a new concept for continetent?
that is why there are 7 continents (8 if you consider central america independent from south and north america).
so the list of continents, where the ALL THE FUCKING LANDS OF THE WORLD ARE INCLUDED, is:
africa
asia
europe
north america
central america
south america
oceania
antártida.
now repeat it 100000000 times.
MORONS
#66 Briton
Apr 19th, 2015 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Last year some miners took photos from a 12,000 foot altitude copper mine of a UFO that the international scientific community in Chile has been studying with great interest. Due to Chile having the largest and most sophisticated telescopes, we have a large number of people interested in the subject. What we do know is that it wasn't any aircraft from the Argentine Air Force as they have nothing airworthy that can fly above the Andes.
#69 bed pan cleaning troll
Dear Andean brother, lay off the heavy sniffing of glue and get back to taking your prescribed meds. Understand that your mood swings are a part of your gender transitioning hormonal treatments and please remember that we all hope that you can successfully follow your sports hero Bruce Jenner.
Try to get over your pathedic envy of your superior, most prosperous, less corrupt, most admired in Latin American neighbor as as we all know, is bad for your karma. Paulcedron face the facts, you've been sniffing Maximo's arse too long and it's destroyed your senses.
chilote dwarf
Apr 19th, 2015 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ scientific community in Chile...”
wot?
LOL
what scientific community in chile are you, subcompact mapuche, talking about?
science for the chilotes is having “created” that capsule to rescue the miners.
period.
and let me tell you something, you dwarf, stop smoking that shite.
otherwise, you will start to see ufos in your shack too.
and remember, try to lick those benny´s arses in a better way.
they stink, chilote ass-licker.
@62 nabo/idiot child/payaso/mamarracho
Apr 19th, 2015 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you quite normal? Definition of continent 1)”any of the world's main continuous expanses of land (Europe, Asia, Africa, North and South America, Australia, Antarctica)” 2) “By convention, ”continents are understood to be large, continuous, discrete masses of land, ideally separated by expanses of water.” 3)“mainland as opposed to islands”.
Tell me, pibe, are islands part of the main continuous expanses of land? The simple answer is “NO”!
Just show a bit of humility(for a change) and admit you are WRONG!
71 BottyBoyPaulie
Apr 19th, 2015 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“what scientific community in chile are you”
Does argentina even have the beginnings of a scientific community? Does argentina even have a community?
Tell you what, after you've finished licking the bed pans, why don't you cross your legs and f*rt, that way, you may actually clean your brain out ( if you have one )
71 paulcedron
Apr 19th, 2015 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“try to lick those benny´s arses in a better way.they stink” I'll take your word for it, I guess you must be talking from experience, everyone too their own taste.
As I mentioned earlier, it's lamentable that the biological procreators of both glue sniffing mentally deranged la Campora trolls on this thread were not given a free helicopter ride in the 1970s...
Apr 19th, 2015 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile actually has a large international scientific community here famously renowned for their research into environment, oceanic and climate studies, fisheries, forestry, astronomic studies, agriculture and more. The Chilean National Commission for Scientific and Technological Research, CONICYT, has been the main driving force for the development of science and technology in the region with an annual budget exceeding over a billion and a half Dollars for research. Only Brazil spends more in Latin America. (Note: that does not include private spending, which amounts in the BILLIONS.)
Actually due to our national reputation for a lack of corruption, cooperative free trade relations, excellent military cooperation and a large segment of English fluent university graduates (FYI: from some of the highest ranked universities in Latin America - note: The Universidad Católica is first ranked of the top 20 and we have 3 others in the top 20. [Argentinia has NONE in the list] ...not that I'm boasting.)
Chile is home to a large number of large telescopes including the largest in the world, the Extremely Large Telescope with an astounding 39.3 meter diameter primary mirror. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Extremely_Large_Telescope
Also under construction is the enormous Giant Magellan Telescope planned for completion in 2020.
I do understand due to a large domestic demand, Argentina is considered the number one Latin American research leader for gender transition.
I love Paul's Argentinean educated logic.
Apr 19th, 2015 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So here is a question or two:
Which continent is Hawaii part of?
Which continent is New Zealand part of?
#76 Skip
Apr 19th, 2015 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're confronting him with complicated questions that may short circuit his drug demented distorted mind...
Bed pan cleaner Paulcedron will need to consult with Argentina's robust and thriving scientific community that will perhaps give him a crafty reply....
....but wait, they're all nearly broke...
Article this month on the sad state of his failed excuse of a country:
Scientific Research Latest Victim of Kirchner Policies: Deteriorating Argentine Economy Respects No Boundaries
http://factcheckargentina.org/scientific-research-latest-victim-of-kirchner-policies/
gordo tirapedos
Apr 19th, 2015 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“By convention, ”continents are understood to be large, continuous, discrete masses of land, ideally separated by expanses of water.”
yes, so?
”3)“mainland as opposed to islands”.
yes, so?
you, stinky farter, are confusing continent with mainland, you idiot.
and if take “continuous mass of land” literally, then there would be no continents, you imbecile.
with your more than stupid criteria, and we can include the criteria of all the bennys and chilote ass-lickers of this 4th class site, the uk would not be part of europe, and it seems it is:
Bulgaria
Croatia
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Macedonia
Malta
Moldova
Monaco
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Russia
San Marino
Serbia and Montenegro
Slovakia (Slovak Republic)
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
Ukraine
United Kingdom
Vatican City.
skippy.
BOTH are part of OCEANIA, you nabo.
so for the chilote ass licker, having a telescope is the same as having a scientific community...LOL
stop smoking that shite, subcompact mapuche.
Well if there was a perfect example of the Argentine decline in their once lauded educational standards, #78 above certainly shows why most of the populace has a “screw loose” when it comes to geography: What continent does Albania belong to? Africa?
Apr 19th, 2015 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile has become a key player in the world of international astrophysics due to the installation of powerful telescopes which have the clearest skies in the world. Our Instituto Millenium de Astrofísica of the Pontifícia Universidad Católica de Chile is considered one of the top ten astronomy centers in the world.
The European Extremely Large Telescope which I mentioned earlier, is being built in the north of Chile and will be inaugurated in 2020, by which time the Chile will be hosting 70% of the global observation surface of high power optical and infrared telescopes in the world! By agreement, Chilean scientists have 10% of the observing time available at each of the telescopes installed in the country.
Meanwhile, we should all congratulate the Peronist government for nearly bankrupting Argentina's scientific research as well as international stature.
Oh Paul
Apr 20th, 2015 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0There you go and prove your Argentinean education.
Thank you so much.
Oceania is NOT a continent! It is a region. The continent in that area is AUSTRALIA.
New Zealand is part of the submerged continent known as Zealandia.
And Hawaii is not part of any continent.
What you have confused (due to extremely thorough Argentinean education) is TECTONIC PLATES.
TECTONIC PLATES do not equate to a continent. Continents float on top of tectonic plates.
“so the list of continents, where the ALL THE FUCKING LANDS OF THE WORLD ARE INCLUDED, is:
africa
asia
europe
north america
central america
south america
oceania
antártida.”
If that is how you wish to see the world then fine. However your division is more social that geological.
As for tectonic plates, the major ones are known as:
African Plate
Antarctic Plate
Eurasian Plate
Indo-Australian Plate
North American Plate
Pacific Plate
South American Plate
Then there are secondary and tertiary plates.
Some plates are CONTINENTAL and some plates are OCEANIC!
So South America is a CONTINENTAL PLATE.
The Pacific Ocean sits above an OCEANIC PLATE.
No where will you find the Pacific Ocean included as part of the North American continent nor Asia nor Australian. So by our own definition you have failed.
There is is smaller plates like the Scotia Plate. This is not part of the South America plate and it may have South Georgia on it. Or they may even be part of their own microplate. The South Sandwich Islands are part of the South Sandwich Plate. However these islands are not on the South American Plate.
Falkland Islands may be on the South American Plate but they are not part of the South American continent.
I know it is difficult. Please feel free to call me all the names you can conjure from your unemployed brain.
It doesn't change reality nor your level of education.
As interesting as this thread has become; just to get back on topic..'
Apr 20th, 2015 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The case has been accepted by the Federal Judge of Río Grande, Tierra del Fuego. So presumably it will be heard in that court.
As I said in a post on another thread, trial “in absentia” is prohibited by our Constitution so unless the court can get extradition orders complied with by the UK, USA, EU and the FIG, there is no lawful way to try the case, unless CFK and her cronies manage to rewrite the Constitution and I don't think they have time.”
quote from 'Simon68' on another thread.
I want the court case to become vigorously fought and prosecuted by the Argentinean government.
Apr 20th, 2015 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0I want to see the result.
#81 ilsen
Apr 20th, 2015 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0The reason why Chileans are always wary about purchasing Argentine assembled automobiles is because they're notorious for forgetting to attach all the parts...
In the troll's “complete” list of European countries, he left off Albania, Andorra, Austria, Belarus, Belgium and Bosnia & Herzegovina.
@78 nabo/idiot chile/payaso/mamarracho/paulcedron
Apr 20th, 2015 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse 01) The British Isles are not part of Europe, although we consider ourselves Europeans. The inhabitants of the British Isles refer to Europe as the “Continent”.
2) The Channel Islands, are not part of Europe, they are situated just off the coast of France within the English Channel, the beautiful Channel Islands, all British Crown dependencies, are fiercely independent and justifiably proud of their history and traditions. The inhabitants refer to France as the Continent.
3) Collins dictionary http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/continent?showCookiePolicy=true
4) The Oxford Dictionary http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/continent?showCookiePolicy=true
5) Diccionario de la Academia Española de la Lengua http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/continent?showCookiePolicy=true
6)Diccionario de la Academia Mexicana de la Lengua http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/continent?showCookiePolicy=true
I trust the above will enable you to actually learn something new.
#84 gordo1
Apr 20th, 2015 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Be careful your logic and straightforward information may cause the trolls hormally altered glue damaged mind might just melt.
And the silence is deafening from our resident troll Paul, do you think he will apologise or just ignore HIS MISTAKE.?
Apr 20th, 2015 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@85 and @86
Apr 20th, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0The idiot child is so f-----g arrogant - an innate trait of los porteños - he is blind to actualities. He is obliged to “menospreciar” all those who 1) disagree with him and 2) show him he is just plain wrong.
What a sad life he must live in his tiny world of ignorance and lack of formal education!
Come on. let's be fair to Paul. He is trying.....very much so !!
Apr 20th, 2015 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0After reading his many and similar posts, I feel intelligent. Something I am not used to.
His imagination is boundless; beautiful Argentine skies and seas, CT scanners at every street corner, the beautiful city of Ushuaia. He waxes lyrical. How I don't want to go there.
As to the language, he has a basic concept of terms of endearment in English and more so in Spanish.
I have learned many friendly greetings from observing his posts which I will use the next time I meet a Spanish speaker. e.g.
Holà cabron ,tirapedos, boludo, nabo, payaso, mamarrach0
What would this site be without his his educative posts.
skippy
Apr 20th, 2015 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Oceania is NOT a continent! It is a region. The continent in that area is AUSTRALIA.
New Zealand is part of the submerged continent known as Zealandia.
And Hawaii is not part of any continent. ”
but the KEY QUESTION HERE is: DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUCK A CONTINENT IS?
you are only talking from a geological point of view, but the modern concept of continent is a lot more complex than that.
of course i do not expect that you or el gordo tirapedos or any other “graduated” from the pork stanley community school could understand it.
anyway, READ AND LEARN; LAZY BENNYS:
“As a cultural construct, the concept of a continent may go beyond the continental shelf to include oceanic islands and continental fragments. In this way, Iceland is considered part of Europe and Madagascar part of Africa. Extrapolating the concept to its extreme, some geographers group the Australasian continental plate with other islands in the Pacific into one continent called Oceania. This divides the entire land surface of the Earth into continents or quasi-continents.”
grandpa
“ payaso, mamarrach0”
YOUR friend, the gordo tirapedos, is the one who uses those terms.
pay more attention.
and do not forget to take the pills
@89 Paulina
Apr 20th, 2015 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So if a continent is a cultural concept, then I'm sure you'll have no difficulty in understanding that in our culture the Falklands aren't part of your cultural continent, so that culturally as well as practically speaking, you can jolly well keep your thieving mitts out of where they don't belong?
Thank goodness we've cleared that up at last.
@89 nabo/idiot child/payaso/mamarracho/paulcedron
Apr 20th, 2015 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“As a cultural construct, the concept of a continent may go beyond the continental shelf to include oceanic islands and continental fragments. In this way, Iceland is considered part of Europe and Madagascar part of Africa. Extrapolating the concept to its extreme, some geographers group the Australasian continental plate with other islands in the Pacific into one continent called Oceania. This divides the entire land surface of the Earth into continents or quasi-continents.”
As is usual with your nonsensical way of reasoning you fail to identify the source of this ”cultural“ concept - it must be from The Guardian or The Independent or some such totally unreliable source of intelligence.
It is beyond belief that a geographical feature which is ”fixed and tangible“ can possibly, or even sensibly, be deemed to be a ”cultural” concept.
Idiot - you certainly don't convince me and I doubt you convince anyone else here - ¡DUNDO! ¡TONTO!
“Argentina does not pose a threat to either the UK or the inhabitants of the Malvinas Islands.”
Apr 20th, 2015 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0According to these experts the UK opinion is not only there's; here's a definitive opinion on the issue.
NATO Review
Deterrence: what it can (and cannot) do
...while London kept emphasising that the Falklands were British, the military Junta in Buenos Aires became convinced that such statements were mere lip service...Deterrence had failed because the United Kingdom had ignored an important factor. Striking a tough pose while at the same time reducing the means to make good on it undermines one of deterrence’s most important ingredients: credibility.
http://www.nato.int/docu/review/2015/Also-in-2015/deterrence-russia-military/EN/
@88 clyde15
Apr 20th, 2015 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you are interested in learning some really friendly greetings in Spanish - even in the Argentine “argot” - this link may be useful http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_profanity
“We will apply the full weight of Argentine legislation and international law in order to prevent the resources that belong to 40 million Argentine citizens from being taken away”, the Argentine official stated.
Apr 20th, 2015 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a publicity stunt by the Argentine regime who know full well they can't do anything to these company's operating beyond their jurisdiction & with international law on their side.
GRANDPA
Apr 20th, 2015 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“@89 nabo/idiot child/payaso/mamarracho/paulcedron”
as you can see is this flatulent fatso the one who uses those terms.
it shows the kind of uneducated twat the fatty fart-blower is.
i blame the pork stanley community “school”.
GORDO TIRAPEDOS
the guardian or the independent?
and what the fuck have those two english pasquinades got to do with the definition of continent, you uncontrollable farter?
the source, which any educated ass should recognize immediately is, of course:
Lewis, Martin W.; Kären E. Wigen (1997). The Myth of Continents: a Critique of Metageography. Berkeley: University of California Press.
and the chapter, of course is:
The joining of Australia with various Pacific islands to form the quasi continent of Oceania ...
but it is clear, not only that you have never read it in your puta life, but also, that you dont have the slightest clue about its existence.
so, the conclusion about all this conversation is that the bennys, english wannabes and stuff are immensely ignorant.
Wiktionary - Oceania states
Apr 20th, 2015 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Despite the fact that Oceania is technically not a continent...................”
95 paulcedron
Apr 20th, 2015 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So in spite of all your bluster and hyperbole, at the end of the day the only definition that is relevant is a legal one to wit: ”(ICJ) in the North Sea continental shelf cases, in which Denmark and the Netherlands based their claim inter alia on the doctrine of proximity...the ICJ rejected any contiguity type of approach...the 1982 Law of the Sea Convention, Article 76, does not support the view that coastal states have sovereignty over islands above the continental shelf. On the contary it laid down doctrine that islands had their own “continental shelves,” p.74 The Falklands/Malvinas Case Breaking the Deadlock in the Anglo-Argentine...By Roberto C. Laver
So the ICJ has spoken, islands are neither attached to a coastal state, yet alone a continent. If you get my continental drift.
”Lewis, Martin W.; Kären E. Wigen (1997). The Myth of Continents: a Critique of Metageography. Berkeley: University of California Press.
Apr 20th, 2015 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and the chapter, of course is:
The joining of Australia with various Pacific islands to form the quasi continent of Oceania ...”
1. Other than the idiot child can anyone confess to have this tome on their everyday reading list?
2. @95 The Guardian and The Independent are, as you know well, two newspapers from which you frequently to make your nonsensical points.
¡Dundo/tonto!
gordo tirapedos
Apr 20th, 2015 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It is beyond belief that a geographical feature which is ”fixed and tangible“ can possibly, or even sensibly, be deemed to be a ”cultural” concept.”
you are more retarded than what i thought.
and that is a lot.
and what the fuck is a political map then, if not a cultural concept?
do you think that countries and continents are only defined and divided by landforms, and other fixed and tangible boundaries, you fartblower?
98 gordo1
Apr 20th, 2015 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It sound like Lewis, Martin W, was trying to reinvent the wheel, as the area had already been defined as Australasia: the region that consists of Australia, New Zealand, New Guinea, and the neighboring islands of the Pacific Ocean. Or, Oceania which was, “an area that encompasses the islands of the Pacific Ocean and adjacent seas.” Were the islands that where not neighboring Australasia.
Everyone needs to be genile with #99 “bed pan cleaner” right now as he's incredilbly stressed due to his adolescent arguments are being soundly proven by everyone as erroneously ingnorant. In all fairness, his/her aggressive gender transition hormonal treatment has made it completely impossible to reason with him/her. What every you do, don't make comparisons between Argentina and the superior in every way Chile as he'll start foaming in the mouth...
Apr 20th, 2015 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@101
Apr 20th, 2015 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Me atrevo a gritar ¡Viva Chile!
Saludos.
Chile is wonderful example to all SA nation. My country though is thick with Peronist idiot who cannot recognise this.
Apr 20th, 2015 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@62. 'A continent is one of several very large landmasses on Earth. They are generally identified by convention rather than any strict criteria, with up to seven regions commonly regarded as continents. These are (from largest in size to smallest): Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Antarctica, Europe, and Australia. Got it, shit licker?
Apr 20th, 2015 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@67. The Caribbean is a region that consists of the Caribbean Sea, its islands (some surrounded by the Caribbean Sea and some bordering both the Caribbean Sea and the North Atlantic Ocean), and the surrounding coasts. The region is southeast of the Gulf of Mexico and the North American mainland, east of Central America, and north of South America.
Doesn't seem to be part of a continent.
@69. An argie fart list.
@78. You seem to have a problem with comprehension and the geo-political. For instance, 97% of Turkey is in Asia. The Falkland Islands do not wish to be part of the shit-pit south america. Thus, they are South Atlantic Islands. Although, to be fair, they probably wouldn't mind but for the mindless, semi-humanoid animal life.
@99. Thank you. And thus the Falkland Islands are NOT part of south america. Culturally, morally or politically.
103 ferdinando
Apr 20th, 2015 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0your country?
your country is chile, you retarded wannabe.
thankfully, the peronist candidates in both mendoza and santa fé have lost by a large margin, and that will be the trend in the whole country, something that clearly you ignore, you chilote.
anyway, mixing domestic politics with territorial dispute is another sign of your less than zero IQ.
but, what can you expect from somebody called “ferdinando”, eh forro?
Unfortunately perhaps paulcedron
Apr 20th, 2015 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does have a valid point,
And on his logic, one would have to agree with him,
All these crusts and shelves makes one hungry,
But if we use paulcedrons logic, and agree that all land is attached to its base, and that base in turn is actually attached to the planet earth,
Then technically Argentina then, has a claim to the whole world, seeing as we are all attached beneath the waves,
Just a drowning thought..
.
Paulcedron, the bed ban cleaning la Campora troll, is deluded with the idea that Argentines can steal themselves back to greatness by not paying their debts and seize the natural resources of the South Atlantic. They are one of the few nations that's literacy rate has actually declined according to UNESCO.
Apr 20th, 2015 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@105 Hi I'm Paulcedron, I like to talk shite about things i dont understand and crap all over my shite little scummy house. I'm obsessed with the invented Malvinas islets and like to masturbate about them furiously with my pals klingon and those other malvinas retards.
Apr 20th, 2015 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I also get a erection over British architecture and the Kirchners. I also pretend to be a pilot and an architect when in fact my primary income is giving blowjobs for money. I AM RETARDED
#108 Paulcedron
Apr 20th, 2015 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, finally an open, truthful and honest post reflecting your contributions to this site.
(I don't know who hijacked his account, but my congratulations!)
So Paul finally agrees that Oceaniais a CULTURAL CONSTRUCT.
Apr 20th, 2015 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once you detach the definition of continents from the geological then Paul has successfully argued that the Falkland Islands are not part of South America.
It amazes me no end how often these Argentinean educated posters actually end up making my argument.
Will the real paulcedron(idiot child/payaso/mamarracho/nabo) please stand up?
Apr 21st, 2015 - 05:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't bother to assert yourself with your usual immature vulgarities just reassure us that you are still around!
I hate to say this but paulcedron is correct that the Falkland Islands are geographically part of South America in that they reside on the South American Continental plate, although the good news is that they do have there own plateau or sub plate called the Falklands Plateau. South Georgia and St. Helena for example are not part of any continent as they are formed by oceanic plates, normally volcano's or volcanic ridges.
Apr 21st, 2015 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would appear from the above that the ICJ does not agree with you and certainly does not agree with the idiot child.
Apr 21st, 2015 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“We will apply the full weight of Argentine legislation and international law in order to prevent the resources that belong to 40 million Argentine citizens from being taken away”, Daniel Filmus stated.
Apr 21st, 2015 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Express, Jan 20, 2015: UK tells Argentina...
The Foreign Office insists the Falklands are not subject to the law as Argentina does not have sovereignty over the islands....
...An Foreign Office spokesman said: “Argentine domestic law does not apply to the Falkland Islands, so this is a baseless gesture intended to deter legitimate commercial activity. We are confident it will not succeed.
”It is shameful that Argentina is once again adopting bullying tactics in an attempt to strangle the Falkland Islands economy.
“The British Government fully supports the rights of the Falkland Islanders to develop their hydrocarbons sector for their economic benefit.
”This right is an integral part of their right of self-determination, which is expressly contained in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
“All hydrocarbons activities on the continental shelf of the Falkland Islands are regulated by legislation of the Falkland Islands Government, in strict accordance with the United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea.”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/449025/UK-tells-Argentina-to-stop-bullying-Falkland-Islands-over-oil-drilling-as-row-escalates
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Apr 21st, 2015 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It would appear from the above that the ICJ does not agree with you and certainly does not agree with the idiot child.”
but, can you discriminate between two different issues, uncontrollable farter?
he is saying that the islets are situated in south america.
which is correct.
while you, fathead, dont know where the fuck south america is.
the sovereignity question is another issue.
can you understand that, stinky fatso?
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Apr 21st, 2015 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you the real paulcedron/idiot child/payaso/mamarracho/nabo?
If affirmative - then YOU ARE WRONG. I know very well where South America is - I ought to, I lived there for many years. BUT, the Falkland Islands are in the South Atlantic many miles away from the continent., and certainly many miles outside the maritime limites of Argentina.
The Falklands are British,
Apr 21st, 2015 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0full stop.
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