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Argentina sues Falklands' oil and support companies involved in hydrocarbons drilling
The Argentine government on Tuesday sued several energy and support companies that are drilling for oil near the Falkland Islands, the latest chapter of a longstanding dispute over the South Atlantic archipelago, though analysts say it will have little practical effect. The criminal case was filed in Rio Grande, Tierra del Fuego province which according to the Argentine constitution includes the Falklands and Antarctica. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“Even if the suits are successful, it's unlikely that any decision would go beyond the borders of Argentina.”
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0wasn't Simon68 telling us that there can be no trials in Argentina, in absentia??
So, WHAT is a “decision” coming from the Arg. court, and HOW is it arrived at??
No UN Resolutions have “urged” the UK to negotiate since 1988.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Any care to dispute that fact? http://www.un.org/documents/resga.htm
http://www.un.org/documents/resga.htm
Juan Javier Negris, a lawyer specialising in commercial international law said the government would have 'serious difficulties' carrying out any sentence because it was unlikely international bodies would implement it.' Another lawyer said 'it was a political gesture.' ( Chron News Texas 21 April 2015).
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0There has been barely a flicker in the share prices of any of the related oil companies.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 05:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0That in itself is telling
I love the fact that the Argentine government doesn't mind humiliating itself on the international stage in order to keep the brainwashed masses distracted from the fact that their future is FUBAR'd.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 06:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0No doubt the 'usual suspects' will get all 'excited' about this, but the oil companies will keep on drilling, the Falkland Islands will continue to prosper, and Argentina will keep on crying, and it might actually begin to sink in to some of the brainwashed masses just how powerless and impotent Argentina actually is.
5 LEPRecon
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0” I love the fact that the Argentine government doesn't mind humiliating itself on the international stage in order to keep the brainwashed masses (at home) distracted from the fact that their future is FUBAR'd”
Shhh, Enrique believes it too, and he should know better.
So, let's see who the world (ex: Cuba, Venezuela & Iran) sees as the legitimate governing authority in these waters: Argentina or FIG? Place your bets.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only thing this will prove is that oil exploration/ production in the Falklands does not rely on an ounce of support from Argentina.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0No 2
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only UN resolutions that matter are the security council because they inculde the big boys who can enforce their will by openheimers light .
Negociations doesnt mean hand the falklands over and as the islanders and the UK dont want to do that and argentina cant force them to or offer anything of value whats to talk about?
I think will be a good idea if all of you - about 2000? - start dinging. Do you know how to dig don't you?
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0But in your own land...
Who is it that says “Argieland. The joke that keeps giving”.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina will defend its natural resources,” said Filmus, arguing that the companies are performing illegal acts by drilling near the Islands, which the Argentine government claims.
The argie 'government' can 'claim' all it likes. Perhaps it would like to 'claim' Uruguay. It's tried to interfere in that other country enough times.
The article misses one point. As reported elsewhen, argieland first had to 'find' a judge willing to hear the case. Anybody got any thoughts on that? In proper countries, don't cases get assigned on the basis of jurisdiction and then whichever judge has an open slot in their schedule.
An interesting comparison. A law suit that CANNOT succeed goes ahead while one that implicates the president, foreign minister, others, in major criminal acts, initially put forward by a prosecutor who has since been murdered, constantly gets tossed aside.
Will this argie judge start by determining whether he/she has jurisdiction? As he/she has no authority to do so. Will he/she be listening to the many arguments, largely outlined over time on this board, that conclusively PROVE that argieland has no basis for its 'claims' and that, therefore, he/she has no jurisdiction.
If, as Simon68 says, no-one can be tried in argieland 'in absentia', how's he/she going to get round that? I do trust that no proper government is going to make the mistake of sending lawyers to argue the case on the part of the oil companies. Will there be a typical argie strategem? A new law, backdated so that it can be used?
Can MercoPress identify this judge and his/her email address so we can explain why he/she is wasting time?
Talk about pissing in the wind. This suit is like getting sued in an African country.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody cares and it won't amount to anything.
The only thing it will do is keep Int'l oil companies from doing business in Argentina.
As if they needed another reason.
Rgs are not a smart people.
according to the Argentine constitution includes the Falklands and Antarctica
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does this mean that technically Argentina could hold court in the Falkland's...lol
Filmus had to prostitute himself around Argentina to find a judge that would listen to The Fairytale-god help him if he comes up with something Kirchner does not want to hear,will he be murdered within 24 hours or will he commit suicide
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More Argentine money wasted on pointless excursions and silly things! Yes go for it Argentina - the more of your hard up peoples money you waste the happier we Islanders are!
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a stupid lot you have in govt over there.
When do they sue Saudi or Kuwait for “illegal drilling” in the Persian Gulf?
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because that's pretty much the same thing, isn't it?
This is absolutely none of their business and everyone knows it. Time for them to go to the ICJ.
Priceless, don't they know Argentina's power & influence stops at the boarder. Well good luck trying to prosecute a company working in International Waters with the UN on their side.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can Argentina Stop Falkland Oil and Gas Limited, Premier Oil PLC And Rockhopper Exploration Plc?
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“performing illegal acts by entering Argentine territory”, saying that “Argentina will use the full force of the law - both national and international law - to prevent these countries from taking the riches which belong to 40 million Argentine citizens”. Daniel Filmus told the BBC
The only law that seems to apply is Argentina's domestic law. ... do shareholders in these companies need to worry? After the UN's 1982 ruling on the Falkland Islands' sovereignty, legal opinion seems to be very much against Argentina on this -- and the markets appear to concur.
The only real conclusion is that Argentina is just trying to gain a little political capital, just after the country marked the 33rd anniversary of the Falklands War. Investors should ignore it and carry on about their business.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/argentina-stop-falkland-oil-gas-143328952.html
Juan Javier Negri, an Argentine lawyer specializing in commercial international law, said the government would have “serious difficulties” carrying out any sentence because it was unlikely international bodies would implement it.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/argentina-stop-falkland-oil-gas-143328952.html
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/argentina-stop-falkland-oil-gas-143328952.html
Trying seizing a drilling ship. Nice surprise waiting for you rotting road kill.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The question used to be asked “Which country is the country of the future?” and the answer was “Argentina and it always will be”!
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well as some of these are American,
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and if Argentina decided to arrest or board these facilities,
Would the US NAVY be sent.
@ 21 Briton
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Would the US NAVY be sent?”
NFC whilst the useless Obumma is President: he's scared of his own shadow.
LOL.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21 Briton
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We don't need the US Navy, one look at a Type 45 destroyer and they'd leg it back to Argentina crying for their mothers.
Of course we could always let slip that a nuclear submarine is tooling up and down the coast of Argentina just waiting for them to step out of line. That usually frightens the crap out of them and sends the scurrying for the UN to complain about the 'nasty' Brits. LOL
I have said this before but it bears repeating.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TDC will be a Peronista state until somebody comes along and kills about 15M of them: these being the card carrying (for a choripan, a coke and a few arsewipes) 'citizens'. It is they who keep the legacy of Peron going.
Regrettably, when that time arrives, and it will arrive, the good people of Argentina will suffer as well but it will be unavoidable.
Once the FIG are oil wealthy and the scum of SA are really, really, destitute, just what have they to lose?
Only when the Peronistas are gone will Argentina have a chance to improve but it will be one hell of a learning curve AND they will have to work for the good of the country. Ah! Perhaps that will be one hill too steep to climb.
Seems like the Argentines are hitting the panic button. It is crystal clear that the Islands dispute is not about sovereignty but OIL Argentina has no legal claim whatsoever to our sovereign rights and they know it. 1833 was nothing but an attempt by Argentina to settle the Islands Illegally.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No the argument today is about OIL and they know that we are about to see major exploitation of our Falklands Oil and they are so jealous of this fact. Oil Companies working on the Islands have nothing to fear from these threats because they are in themselves total political sabre rattling .
The Falklands are not about to cow down to this known bully and neither are the companies who are prepared to invest in our future.
How is the drilling going in Dead Cow?
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Would seem to be a more pertinent issue for the Argy Gov.
After all they can affect that.
Argentina,
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0All mouth, no trousers..lol
“Argentina claims Britain usurped the territory by placing a naval garrison there in 1833.”
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rather a strange comment as no Naval garrison was left by the British-in 1883-HMS Tyne and HMS Clio departed leaving none of their personnel on the Islands.
If they had Rivero wouldn't have gone riot.
“During an April 3 speech, while claiming Argentina's right to the Falklands/Malvinas, President Cristina Fernandez said Great Britain should not spend “even one more British pound” protecting the Islands and instead should use the money for its poor.”
No mention of spending the aid money to Argentina on Britain's poor.
“Argentina need to stop this kind of behavior and start acting like a responsible member of the international community,” Hammond said in an interview ”
More in hope than expectation.
At least Argentina is doing what it threatened 5 years ago, I'm just waiting for them to bring a US oil executive into Argentina, within the next 25 years......
Which Is Riskier: Gulf Keystone Petroleum Limited Or Falkland Oil and Gas Limited?
Apr 30th, 2015 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0”...Oh, and the Argentinian legal threats are indeed groundless, as the UN has long ago ruled that it has no legal jurisdiction....
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/riskier-gulf-keystone-petroleum-limited-150510007.html
Where is our delusional “within 25 years” Hepatia these days?
May 01st, 2015 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0This oil news must be making her too crazy to comment.
Good.
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