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Falklands born Alejandro Betts entitled to vote in coming Argentine elections
For the first time a man born in the Falkland Islands, will be voting in the coming Argentine elections, according to reports in the Buenos Aires media. The man is Alejandro Betts, 58, who received his Argentine ID at a ceremony in the Argentine embassy before United Nations, and will thus be eligible to cast a ballot in the coming Tierra del Fuego provincial and municipal elections. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesFunny. Amazing how Argentina continues to make itself a laughing stock in the eyes of the world.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0I guess that makes him eligible for a sausage too, though it does look like he's had plenty already.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 07:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0An immigrant will vote!
Jun 01st, 2015 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow millions of immigrants in the UK, USA, Canada and Australia vote every year!
Didn't realise it was that much of a deal.
He moved to Argentina 33 years ago. He lives (according to Wikipedia) in the province of Cordoba. But he will be voting in Ushuaia. Strange, indeed.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0The story here is “Man who lives in Argentina ;Votes in Argentinian election”
Jun 01st, 2015 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Earth shattering eh ?
Shouldn't all the islanders be allowed to vote...?
Jun 01st, 2015 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0@6 Good point ... I demand my vote!
Jun 01st, 2015 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0He's still breaking the law by listing an incorrect address though...
He should be up for a free choripan then. Fat Max will be shipping them all over to his supporters.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0He's been living in Argentina for 33 years and is only just become eligible to vote?
Jun 01st, 2015 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Disgusting little man
Jun 01st, 2015 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who gives a toss....nauseating little self-publicist.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Having recently obtained Canadian Citizenship I am eligible to vote in the upcoming General Election. Why is this not making international news? I am somewhat affronted.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 6 Voice. All islanders did vote - to remain a British Overseas Territory and by implication to have nothing to do with Argentina. But then we wouldn't expect members of the Scottish Nasty Party like yourself to understand that, after all sending round some of your thugs to intimidate people is de rigeur north of the border... as is bribery and intimidation in the Dark Country that you so admire.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0A few questions.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did he help the Argentinians while they were invading and before they were kicked out ?
Has ever visited the Islands after leaving in 82 ?
What does his family think of what he is doing ?
He must be so proud of himself. :o(
Jun 01st, 2015 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4. Not only that but he is, apparently, a bigamist. And a liar. The Wikipedia article records that Betts claimed he supported argieland as early as 1976. On 18 May 1978 Betts sent a letter to the Falkland Islands Times, strongly protesting the weak response of the British government to the establishment of an Argentine base on Thule Island. Moreover, he apparently trained as a sheep shearer. And that somehow qualified him to be an air traffic controller?
Jun 01st, 2015 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have found a link that tells some of his sorry story.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Three brothers in Port Stanley. Three brothers in Port Stanley. Two helped the Brits, the other sided with the Argies.”
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/FALKLANDS+TRAITOR%3B+WAR+IN+THE+SOUTH+ATLANTIC%3A+25+YEARS+ON+EXCLUSIVE...-a0162771059
He can stand for their President for all l care.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the least said about that, the better.
17 - Interesting article, I don't think I've seen it before. I wonder what makes someone turn on his own people and give credence to the Malvinista false history and lies. I understand some people have done that over history, the Duke of Windsor admired Hitler for example, I just don't understand these people.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, Betts can vote in Ushuaia, Tierra Del Fuego.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ushuaia, informally founded in the mid-1800s by the British. First visited by Argentinian citizens in 1873. Officially founded in 1884.
Tierra del Fuego province, conquered by brutal force in the Conquest of the Desert in the 1870s. Became a province in 1990 (8 years after the Falklands war).
So how is it that the supposed “theft” of the Islands from Argentina by the British in 1833 (when the Southern border of Argentina was 1000 miles North of the Falklands, just South of BA) disrupted the “Territorial Integrity”, when the Territory they supposedly belong to did not exist as such, or belong to Argentina until it was taken by force 40 years after.
And how is it that the taking by (lethal bloody) force of TdF was acceptable, if the taking of the Falklands by (non-violent) force in 1833 was illegal?
I have asked this before on this forum, but no Argentinian has ever addressed the question.
This chap and another ( forget the name, some sort of artist who left his family in the islands and shacked up with a local RG girl in BaAS; was later, very publicly, given his new passport from KFC) are just useful stooges for the K's and very much benefitting from it as well.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A lot of people have their price; these were very much Poundshop sellers.
It's kind of appropriate that this dishonourable, pathetic individual should be a malvinista figurehead given his betrayal was based on what his genitals were telling him what to do. As opposed to actual principles.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and they say that ALL the isleteers are thicko AND schmucko...
Jun 01st, 2015 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0clearly this guy is the exception of the rule.
“and they say that ALL the isleteers are thicko AND schmucko”
Jun 01st, 2015 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So thicko AND schmucko that their BNP per capita is app 4 times that of Argentina - what does that make the Argentines?
This man is madman. Why anybody want to live in Arg when they can be in Islands and be rich? But among 3000 peples there must be one with no brain. Plenty such peples in Arg following fat max which is why my cuntry is such big mess failure.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I still do not understand how the election system works in Argentina. The article cited in post # 17 says he has been living in Cordoba province ever since his arrival in Argentina more than 30 years ago. A few years ago he even runned for mayor of his present home village, Aguas de Oro .So he must have been entitled to vote in Argentina for at least 25 years or so. So whats new? Has he got some kind of dual right to vote, both in his actual home province (Cordoba) and in TDF, where he has never been living? This must be just a “propaganda show”.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The picture refers to a “fiance” when it was actually 'mistress' - and fails to point out that Betts abandoned his pregnant wife and children when he left.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder how popular Betts is when he visits family in FI?
Jun 01st, 2015 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0----------------------------------------
Anyone that takes any statement from a representative of rotting roadkillian interests at face value should be committed for observation.
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When (if) the current set of thieves leave power the next group will have to audit YPF, ANSES, BCRA, ETC - to see if anything actually ever did exist.
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www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results
Internationally #107 with a 34 score.
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Enrique Massot: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
@23 paulcedron
Jun 01st, 2015 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“and they say that ALL the isleteers are thicko AND schmucko...
clearly this guy is the exception of the rule.”
It seems to me that this individual is a traitor, what you Argentine trolls call, I believe, a “sipayo” or “cipayo”.
You believe yourself to be very funny and amusing, don't you? Well, you're not!
Wow!
Jun 01st, 2015 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NEWSFLASH!!!!
Argentine citizen allowed to vote in Argentina!!!
Maybe this is news because being able to vote in Argentina is a recent thing.
Don't forget, all you Malvinista trolls, Mr Betts supported the military Junta which you are all supposed to be against...when it's convenient that is.
As I recall Betts left the Falklands before the end of hostilities! Wonder why?
Jun 01st, 2015 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr Betts leaves one country and lives in another,
Jun 01st, 2015 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0millions do this each year,
nothing new here people, just a few more laughs for the world, move it along please...
#32 But, the fact that ONLY ONE Islander has ever moved to Argentina says it all!
Jun 01st, 2015 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anywhere other than Argentina! (Its such a wonderful place) NOT!
@23 cara de orto podrido
Jun 01st, 2015 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know who Oswaldo Ardiles is? He is a British citizen!
23 paulcedron
Jun 01st, 2015 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0''and they say that ALL the isleteers are thicko AND schmucko...''
No they don't. You do, and everybody laughs at you. You haven't got two brain cells to rub together, bless you, but you give us all a giggle. Carry on the good work.
Yeah well,I voted in the UK elections this year. So what!!! The Alex Argentine thing, is a tragic love affair.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0gordo tirapedos
Jun 01st, 2015 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and what the fuck has ardiles got to do with this?
do you train to be so imbecile?
monty
no you nabo.
the english soldiers say that
“During the so-called Falklands conflict, British troops memorably dubbed the locals ”Bennies“ after Benny Hawkins, the village-idiot character in the British soap opera Crossroads”
@9 Benson
Jun 01st, 2015 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“He's been living in Argentina for 33 years and is only just become eligible to vote?”
And all that help he has given to the Malvanistas?
What's the betting Argentina will name him the Governor of Bad Vines?
@37
When you fly to the Falklands, as well as the CT scanners to present to the impoverished Islanders, bring Mr Betts along too.
I am sure he will get a friendly welcome at Princes Street airport.
33@
Jun 01st, 2015 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0very true.
“”“”“”“The first house constructed in Ushuaia was a pre-assembled 3 room home prepared in the Falkland Islands in 1870 for Reverend Thomas Bridges. One room was for the Bridges family, a second was for a Yámana married couple, while the third served as the chapel”“”“”“”“”“”
Jun 01st, 2015 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hang on a mo!
How can that possibly be true when we ALL know that the Falklands belong to Argentina due to territorial integrity and how close they are to “Argentina”...
surely THIS means that Argentina belongs to the Falklands!!!!
:-0
Whatever the hype on this; it's total bull because many Falklands born people have voted in Argentina before. Back in the day when it was easier and the mainland was a land of plenty a lot of people from the Falklands emigrated to Argentina and certainly voted in many elections in the past.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 037 paulcedron
Jun 01st, 2015 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed. And do you know what we called them?
I'm guessing you don't have the concept of banter where you come from.
It was the hat anyway, which we still call a 'benny hat' to this day.
You should hear what we call Argentines. Doesn't necessarily make it true though, does it.
CLARIFICATION
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 02:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0For the last 10 days or so, a poster nicknamed Chronic has been posting an excerpt of a post of mine—out of context.
Unable to cope with dissent, this individual has resorted to this form of harassment and abuse of this forum. I am reproducing below the conversation from which the misleading statement was extracted:
32 Conqueror - May 18th, 2015 - 03:03 pm
@26. “…There is NO important newspaper in argieland. Argies lie as a matter of course. You do it yourself....”
33 Enrique Massot May 18th, 2015 - 04:02 pm
#32
RE: “Argies lie as a matter of course.”
EM: “I am totally humbled by such a thoughtful statement. Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars. We should realize that, become a protectorate and name Conqueror as Minister of Truth. Finally, all will be solved.”
The interesting thing is that Betts chose to actively assist and support a military dictatorship with a known history of kidnapping, torturing and murdering several thousand Argentinians. Rather different to simply thinking the Falklands should be part of Argentina.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 02:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Comment 36, I suppose I should have mentioned I am Alex brother, who supported the British (and very proud of it) during the Falklands war
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 05:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is quite interesting that Betts has been a valuable propaganda resource for Argentina, helping them perpetuate the Malvinas Lie, and yet this is the first time he's been allowed to vote in their elections.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0You'd think the politicians would appreciate someone who supports the subjugation of his former people enough to give him the vote as soon as possible, to maximise political leverage from him taking part in their elections.
@45: Nice to meet you. Welcome.
Why is this news? Lots of people move to other countries, gain citizenship and voting rights, big deal.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37 Pauly when are you traveling to the Falklands? You said a couple of months ago you would be here in a couple of months? Did you lie? Or are you waiting on funding and orders from your Kirchner master?
brainless fy
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what part of “a-couple-of- months” dont you understand, brainless?
I dont know anything about this guy but from browsing this thread it all seems pretty sad and pathetic.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guess it usually happens in wars.
@48 Ummmm the fact two months ago you said you would be here in a couple of months aaaaaaaaand you never arrived, because you lied. You are aware a couple of months means 2 months right? Hmmmmm me thinks Pauly is not as smart as he says he is. It's ok Pauly, you should be able to catch the next monthly LAN flight from Río Gallegos, i thinks its this weekend, or the one after, not sure. But hopefully you will be here for Liberation day so you can pay respects to the fallen soldiers of 1982, from both countries, ya know, because we are civilised like that. Ohh and please correct me on any grammatical or spelling errors you may find, their may be some intentional mistakes, just to test you and distract you from you horrible, horrible life. I will be checking your answers.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0P.S
Your a loser
^^^(hint)
Regards
Brainless
Ultimately the Falklands belongs to the Falkland Islanders, in association with the UK
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@51 TSB,
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0And that is the truth & the ONLY thing that matters, despite what these idiot malvinistas trot out.
This is an amazing example of what I've been saying all along. Regrettably, Galtieri and his gang set Argentina's clock back 25 years, but catch up is possible.
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As Argentina's standards raise, islanders are going to get closer and this story is bound to repeat. In a few years, the islands will drop far away Britain and exchange sheep for the world's best beef.
#53 That may be so, it may not. But either way it is our choice to make, and no one else's.
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 53 Enrique Massot
Jun 04th, 2015 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is one of the most arrogant statements that has ever appeared in mercopress and is a load of total bollocks which should only be treated with absolute contempt!
AT LAST!
Jun 04th, 2015 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has made it into the Daily Telegraph “Pictures of the day” with a photo of the General assembly building where thousands of concerned citizens are protesting.
Is it the economy being in the shitter they are worked up about? NO!
Is it the fact that TMBOA is stealing millions off them? NO!
Is it the fact that inflation is 41% and rising? NO!
So WTF is it about?
It IS about a woman being murdered every THIRTY HOURS DUE TO TRANS-GENDER VIOLENCE!!!!
Brave men, these argies, killing their women.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/11650166/Pictures-of-the-day-4-June-2015.html?frame=3329099
56.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed and each 60 minute someone dies in a car accident in Argentina.....so??
If women want to be treated like animals and want to date the bad boy of the hood, then that’s too bad. If they don’t want to call the police and return each time to their beating husbands and boyfriends, fuck them.
As long as they don’t pass more laws which give women the power to lock me up with virtually no proof at all, I couldn't care less.
But the problem is more and more State to parent grownups that don’t want to take responsibility for their own choices.
And now the malvinazis have a future Quisling!
Jun 05th, 2015 - 07:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
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