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Argentine police video on Nisman's death shows experts working without latex gloves
The lead investigator in the mysterious death of special prosecutor Alberto Nisman, who had accused Argentina's president of wrongdoing, came under sharp criticism on Monday with a video showing police experts working without latex gloves at the apartment where the body was found last January. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesChrist, you couldn't make this up, Argentina a laugh a second. No wonder the bombing has not been solved.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0you can touch the whole ck robberment gang also only with toilet paper. but you will not manage to clean it.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Carry On Policing!
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah har har had... says Sid James
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0What do you expect when they were told (ordered) to get him off cretina's back. Wipe the slate clean. Period.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0its never going to get to court ,so why bother about the facts.the whole country lives on lies and propoganda, if it was not so serious it would be funny............
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 6 is correct, they canot convict anyone once the video is shown to the court.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0AH! Hang on, we are discussing the criminals in the government's pay known as Magistrates here: so yes, some poor patsy is bound to be found guilty.
Just when you think that things couldn't be any worse for the people of Argentina TMBOA and her gang of wanabe thugs shows it can.
The ugly cow who trod in the blood should be jailed on the video evidence alone.
Frankly it is amazing to me that people like Reekie thought this was all over.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0For some reason the stupid Rgs have a hard time telling the difference between the beginning and the end of something.
I wonder why?
8.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reek is a fool.
The Ks control the courts, the prosecuters the judges, the police, everything.
However the whole thing will be brought up when the Ks are out of power and a MEGACAUSA : AMIA+ COVER UP + IRAN DEAL + NISMAN's MURDER will be reopened to haunt the Ks.
#8 YB
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Reekie...thought it was all over”
The video, no doubt, shows incorrect practices by the police.
Now, to get all excited because this video would prove anything different from what it has been...that's just wishful thinking. None of the incorrect practices shown would suffice to make changes to the conclusions reached so far in regards to prosecutor Nisman's death.
Of course, the opposition are terribly disappointed they could not endorse the death to CFK.
Too bad too sad. Opponents need to work by themselves if they want to win the October election.
@10
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still in love with your “LEADER”? What are you doing in Canada? Suffering here no doubt.
Canada is a liberal democracy part of the British Cronw so you must be in Argentina defending the “progresive” goverment from the attack of the oligarchy. It's revolution time in Argentina !!!!!
We all know who is behind the killing of a prosecutor organized by Milani. It's “vox populi” even among the members of the Peronist/fascist party that Milani organized the crime.
Let me ask you something: Why is that CFK put Milani (a militar who made career in ingeligence) as chieft of the Army? There are general from infantry, engineers, artillery, cavalry...but she choose one “born” and “grew” in inteligency...WHY?
10. Reekie, How can you be so dumb and yet so old? Have you learned nothing in all the time you've been on this earth? Are you brain damaged?
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I really wonder if you're in a home for the mentally retarded and they allow you a bit of computer time everyday.
I really do.
There's plenty of evidence to indict the Ks for drug smuggling, money laundering and now murder. Its will be left up to the next Prez to handle though. There's plenty of time for them all to rot in a USA jail.
Enrique, please, let me ask you something again:
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why is that CFK put Milani (a militar who made career in ingeligence) as chieft of the Army?
There are lot of generals from different areas. infantry, chivalry, artillery
commands, engineeringy...but she choose one from inteligency...WHY?
@10. A true 'K' child. And your experience of forensic science is what exactly? Nothing, repeat nothing gets touched without surgical gloves. Even that toilet paper shouldn't have been touched. Obviously, Fein had already made up her mind. Why would it matter if she tracked blood everywhere? And when they find a bloody footprint?
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here's a good one. Berni asks Fein if Nisman is dead. Does he want to make sure? Is Fein a doctor? If there was a possibility that he was still alive, where were the medical personnel? Or did they just leave him to die?
Lots of questions. Who had motive? Who had/has the 'authority' to make all those involved do as they're told? One word. KIRCHNER. The BLACK WIDOW of LATAM.
Nothing surprises me except how Jorge Lanata hasn't been murdered yet and how the press has not insisted upon reviewing the security camera footage from the Puerto Madero neighborhood, especially the apartment building.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW remember the young lady complaining about how the investigation scene was being poorly handled AND then was pressured to recant?
I imagine that Enrique Massot works for the argentine government. Or wants to in the near future. That's the reason why he writes with his actual name. To make public his loyalty to “the LEADER”.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fascists are this way. They have no dignity at all. That's why freemasons say that fanatism is a kind of slavery....
16. How do you know who the actual writer is?
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who is Christian Rubilar?
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Anyone that takes any statement from a representative of rotting roadkillian interests at face value should be committed for observation.
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When (if) the current set of thieves leave power the next group will have to audit YPF, ANSES, BCRA, ETC - to see if anything actually ever did exist.
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www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results
Internationally #107 with a 34 score.
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Enrique Massot: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
I am reflecting on my time living in Argentina.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I often wondered why the citizenry is so Apathetic.
I truly believe its because every day, day in and day out their lives get a little bit worse, just a little bit, but its every day. Stuff gets a little more expensive, well I'll cut back on movies, don't fill up my car gas tank, skip a lunch I don't need it anyway, lose electricity, well I needed to go out for a walk, or go to the mall, every day, day in and day out life is a little worse until you don't care any more and you just accept that it is going to get worse.
I didn't realize I fell into that trap when I lived there too.
I drains your existance of hope.
You succumb to the everyday failures and corruptions.
Its easier to give up.
Thank goodness I had the ability and smarts to escape when I did.
Its only ever going to get worse there every day devolving while they dream of past glories.
Its sad.
And it makes me sick people like Axel and Reekie promote that life crushing regime.
Absolutely sickening.
@18 I often pondered the same issue when I was there. The truth is the majority are completely powerless against rampant corruption of the few with any real power. So, they are easy to manipulate by anyone promising just a little hope. The endless protests that seem more of a hobby than anything else achieve nothing in reality. When I asked why they bother the answer was it is all they have. Walking around and banging some pots, usually followed by setting fire to something and a bit of a party is the only distraction they have.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have often asked why they don't vote for someone less corrupt and they answer they are all corrupt. They really are some of the most powerless people in South America. You can't blame them for apathy when they live in an endless struggle to survive.
Enrique chooses not to live in Argentina which says everything you need to know about him. He is completely without integrity.
@19. Surely the answer is what used to be called 'revolution'? Instead of banging pots, break in to the Casa Rosada, and any other government sinkholes, drag the criminals out. Have a fair and honest trial. Then string them up. Chop the corrupt police down and take their weapons. Announce the 'revolution'. Shoot down any disloyal troops. Isn't that the way it's done? How many argies are gutless?
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#9 According to an article in the paper today, the FPV candidates have agreed that she will still be directing the Executive branch. Imagine...what a bunch of spineless idiots. They would be president in name only...
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20 We don't believe in terrorism. Well, civilized people here don't, the crooks are another story. Even if we did a revolution, I doubt anything would magically improve. There are two kinds of people in Argentina: the crooks that lead, and the rest who are incapable of leadership.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, the only people in Argentina who are capable of revolution are the narcos.
@20 & 22.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think revolution is likely in this age. It sounds simple and attractive but @22 makes a valid point, who would lead after the bloodbath? All the power is with the corrupt, be they currently in government or in the wings waiting to be in government.
In good news…… Blatter has resigned.
You got to see the latest effort by the opponent newspaper Clarín to attempt to use the Nisman affair to discredit the government of Cristina Fernández de Kirchner.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In an article today, the newspaper “reveals” manipulation of Nisman's computer under the title “Information was erased from Nisman's computer.”
And the sources were...
“Sources with access to the investigation...” (No names, as per Clarín practice).
http://www.clarin.com/politica/Alberto_Nisman-borraron-informacion-computadora-peritos-ingresos-modificar-horario_0_1368463144.html
@24 Enrique, I know that you are a fascist therefore you won't answer any unconfortable person but questions are “for free” in this forum so I will insist.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why is that CFK put Milani (a militar who made career in ingeligence) as chieft of the Army?
There are lot of generals from different areas. infantry, chivalry, artillery
commands, engineeringy...but she choose one from inteligency...WHY?
These people can not be called 'experts' if they can't get the basics of preserving and recording evidence correct.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The correct term for these people is AMATEURS. Or CORRUPT Amateurs. Or INEPT Corrupt Amateurs.
They are no where near being experts in any field.
You get it wrong, LEPRecon, they are experts who know exactly how to pollute a crime scene so no useful evidence survives.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not using sterile clothing, not using rubber gloves, stepping in blod - if any forensic expert had done that in a first world country after 1970, he/she would get kicked out of the force and become the subject of a thorough investigastion.
CLARIFICATION
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0For the last 10 days or so, a poster nicknamed Chronic has been posting an excerpt of a post of mine—out of context. (See #17).
Unable to cope with dissent, this individual has resorted to harassment and abuse of this forum. I am reproducing below the conversation from which the excerpt was taken:
32 Conqueror - May 18th, 2015 - 03:03 pm
@26. “…Argies lie as a matter of course. You do it yourself....”
33 Enrique Massot May 18th, 2015 - 04:02 pm
#32
RE: “Argies lie as a matter of course.”
EM: “I am totally humbled by such a thoughtful statement. Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars. We should realize that, become a protectorate and name Conqueror as Minister of Truth. Finally, all will be solved.”
Who is Christian Rubilar?
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 01:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0----------------------------------------
Anyone that takes any statement from a representative of rotting roadkillian interests at face value should be committed for observation.
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When (if) the current set of thieves leave power the next group will have to audit YPF, ANSES, BCRA, ETC - to see if anything actually ever did exist.
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rotting roadkill is NUMBER ONE (#1)! SEVENTY-THREE (73%) PERCENT!
www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/hotels/11646110/Revealed-the-nationality-most-likely-to-steal-from-hotels.html
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rotting roadkill is NUMBER ONE HUNDRED, SEVEN (#107)! With a THIRTY-FOUR (34) SCORE!
www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results
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Enrique Massot: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
Lanata continues on his 4th consecutive year of giving it to TMBOA in the rear every Sunday night.
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0ENTERTAINING
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0For the last 10 days or so, a poster nicknamed Chronic has been entertains a number of us at Mercopress and whether it's out of context or not, it's amusing to note that Enrique is unable to cope with what he describes as “harassment and abuse of this forum”.
My gentle advice: “...if it's too hot in the kitchen...”
Yes, Enrique is a sensitive soul very quick to play the victim. He should just ignore it.
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0@32
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ play the victim” must be Argentinian then.
@33 You have to wonder how he would have coped when Think was posting about sniffing women's crotches and playing with his own shit. Enrique would have fainted clean away.
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22. Did I mention 'terrorism'? As for 'revolution“, how did your 'country' get started? Weren't you revolting? Your predecessors had more guts than you? Mind you, you sound pretty gutless. ”I doubt anything would magically improve” you say. Nobody is talking about 'magic'. But consider, do you have a speciality? You could be the next Foreign Minister! Not too much problem improving on the performance of the incumbent. Just keep your mouth shut most of the time and, if you must open it, tell the truth. Come to think of it, if you follow those guidelines, you could probably have any ministerial job you want. Stand up and be counted. Or, possibly, stand up and do the counting. Think of the pleasure to be had from throwing Kirchner into a deep, dark, rat-infested cell and ensuring she can never get out. There might be money to be made. Suppose she was open for public viewing and turd throwing? 10 pesos a shot. You could be a millionaire in a week.
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28. DIVERSION.
How strange that you didn't just post a link to the actual article, viz http://en.mercopress.com/2015/05/15/cristina-fernandez-comes-out-strongly-in-defense-of-minister-kicillof
from which people could see the context. And so you prove the point. 'I was referring to information posted by the most important newspaper of Argentina' was what you said. Is Clarin the most important newspaper? You go on to assert that the Clarin information was a total fake. How would you know? So it's a lie. You assert motive to Clarin. How would you know? Another lie. And all this without a single link to a reliable source. And you want to 'quarrel' with the assertion that people, and I, reckon that argies always lie? The Falklands issue! Argies lie from beginning to end.
#35 Conqueror
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A lot of words to explain what can never be explained. Anybody of good faith will recognize the presence of a minority of liars, as well as a majority of truthful people, in any country. You may enjoy yourself making ridiculous allegations to comfort your own insecurities, but you very well know how shaky your ground is.
36. How much are the Ks paying you to be with your arse typing away in Canada, bufoon???
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@36 I have been absent from this forum for months, but I distinctly remember another individual that posted absurd pro-Kirchnerite nonsense from a safe distance. At the time, CFK supporters were at their worst in Argentina committing rape, theft, murder, and assault to such a degree where you could feel the tension in the streets. The international press hadn't caught wind of it yet, and spoke highly of CFK to add insult to injury.
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If that individual was present for that, they wouldn't have supported her, unless they were depraved enough to partake in these crimes themselves. If you're at a safe distance, and never experienced the economic downfall, violence, and tension for yourself, you don't really have a stake in these events one way or the other.
You can just be a spectator sharing an opinion, but that's about it.
Just remember who called Reekie out first for his smarminess and general retardation.
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:)
I see that Reekie couldn't manage to post a comment reliant on forensic science. Here's a tip, slug-guts. Virtually everything can be explained if it relates to the human or semi-human circumstance. Let's start with the KIRCHNER-COW. For some unaccountable reason she has to 'protect' the corrupt, criminal scum that used to beat her up. Naturally, latam females are accustomed to being beaten. How else could latam males consider themselves to be 'men'? Of course, they aren't 'men'. Just scummy cowards.
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Noticed that in just a short time you are adjudged to be a piece of 'K' argie lying scum? Perhaps you could go swimming. And drown. Nobody would miss you.
Sorry, who are you?
See YB - I too can occasionally get something right! I knew that the Reeeekie label had sufficient adhesive and would stick. It's good coinage, it's got a decent tune and you can dance to it. OK, it WAS pretty obvious. I'll give you that.
Jun 03rd, 2015 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For review:
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Anyone that takes any statement from a representative of rotting roadkillian interests at face value should be committed for observation.
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When (if) the current set of thieves leave power the next group will have to audit YPF, ANSES, BCRA, ETC - to see if anything actually ever did exist.
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rotting roadkill is #1 with 73%!
www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/hotels/11646110/Revealed-the-nationality-most-likely-to-steal-from-hotels.html
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rotting roadkill is #107 with a 34 score!
www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results
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Enrique Massot: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
CLARIFICATION
Jun 04th, 2015 - 04:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0An individual posting in this forum under the nickname of Chronic has taken an excerpt of a post of mine out of context to change its meaning. (See #41).
Unable to cope with dissent, the said Chronic has resorted to this form of harassment and abuse.
Below is the excerpt in question in its right context:
32 Conqueror - May 18th, 2015 - 03:03 pm
@26. “…Argies lie as a matter of course. You do it yourself....”
33 Enrique Massot May 18th, 2015 - 04:02 pm
RESPONSE: “I am totally humbled by such a thoughtful statement. Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars. We should realize that, become a protectorate and name Conqueror as Minister of Truth. Finally, all will be solved.”
@42
Jun 04th, 2015 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ all will be solved” what a ridiculous statement. has ANYTHING been solved in Argentina? The Federal Police seems they cannot get anything right. Talk about “ a bull in a china shop ” that seems to describe the antics of a few.
42. How much is the government paying you to write this crappy propaganda ??
Jun 04th, 2015 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please, notice how Enrique Massot avoided answering my questions. This is the regular behaviour of the fascist/peronists. Thye allways ignore those who might be an issue (and put them into trouble) when repeating the “official spreech”.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By the way, it's official now that someone broke into the personal computer of Alberto Nisman between the time he was killed and the time his body was discovered. His PC was at his department. Someone entered 60 times and plug in 3 UBS devices to check and take out information.
Fascists are so predictable.
#45 pgerman
Jun 04th, 2015 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In a recent poll, over half of the Argentines believe that the truth will never be learned. Being “suicided” is the fascist/Peronists mode of operations.
Reekie is too busy cut and pasting Chronic and my posts.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lookin' like a hypocrite and a fool
so nothin' new
#45 pgerman
Jun 04th, 2015 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK, I'll do this just once.
You may not know, but this forum is here to comment on stories published by MercoPress.
As a result, I (and you and everybody else) may post opinions or facts related to the stories. I would say rebuttals are OK too.
Some posters in this site engage in off-topic, personal dialogues, which in my opinion is to abuse MercoPress' tolerance.
As a result, I won't answer questions such as “why CFK chose Milani” because it's a totally unrelated topic. Please find someone else to answer that question. Oh, and for your information: I am not a Peronist. Never was. I am not a fascist and never was. You may disagree with my opinions, but please refrain from putting labels on people you know nothing about.
@48
Jun 04th, 2015 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank your explanation. It is quite clear. Followin the common peronist behaviour you won't answer.
Don't be ashamed of being peronist/fascist it is your right. You are in Canada a free conutry. Nobody will try to chase you for being a fascist.
Poor Reekie has no Sistahs to back him up
Jun 04th, 2015 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0he's failing miserably
just like he has his whole sad life
#50 yankeeboy
Jun 04th, 2015 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get a life.
I have a wonderful life. I was just trying to figure out if I should go back to the resort I was a couple weeks ago and take that Falconry class.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They're such amazing creatures
I could only hope mine gets a rat
#52 YB
Jun 04th, 2015 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We use falcons here in our table grape vineyards to scare the sparrows away. The falcons are not after the sparrows, but instead fly around about a 40 hectare vineyard, return to its trainer who has a nice piece of fresh meat waiting. The sparrows meanwhile fly as fast and far away firing hated out of their wits.
#53 Chicureo
Jun 05th, 2015 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0I much prefer your falcons than those YB alludes to.
#52 YB
Be careful with the hantavirus. It may like you.
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