The Falkland Islands have a bright future, not without challenges, or harassment or bullying, but the Islanders will face them with the same strength, tenacity and resolve that helped them through the conflict 33 years ago, said Foreign Office minister Hugo Swire at the annual Falklands' Government Reception in London. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhy does Argentina bother?
Jun 17th, 2015 - 07:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Surely they would have gotten the Islands by now if they could. It'll just be more decades of noise.
I know. Bored to tears. What's on TV? Nothing but repeats? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Jun 17th, 2015 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1:
Jun 17th, 2015 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0More than that - if they had a legitimate argument and agreed to ICJ arbitration, they could have the Islands before the year is out, most likely.
Of course, we all know that the reason they refuse ICJ arbitration is that their claim is based on a false history - the Malvinas Lie.
'... And, of course, we also remember those young Argentine soldiers who died.'
Jun 17th, 2015 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0And there Argentina is the difference, the UK commemorate all that were lost in the war on both sides, where as, your government just celebrate starting the war. That is the difference between a mature, stable and confident country and your laughable excuse for a government.
I highly recommend watching the BBC series
Jun 17th, 2015 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0An Island Parish which is facinating.
“This progress has reaffirmed to me that the Falkland Islands have a bright future. There will be challenges - but I know the Islanders will face them with the same strength, tenacity and resolve that helped them through the conflict 33 years ago”.
Jun 17th, 2015 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0And THAT, as they say is the problem the stupid lying Peronistas have to overcome: it will never happen except by force and THAT will never happen.
So it's just noise for the unwashed, uneducated argie deadheads whilst genuine people like my next door neighbours family and Simon68 have to suffer the lies and money grabbing of TMBOA.
I really wonder why the Islanders don't request independence, together with assistance and defence treaties, that would leave the de facto situation as it is. Including the British garrison, air defence and naval attendance. Argieland couldn't continue its lies about colonialism. The Islands would have to be removed from the C-24 list. Perhaps the Islands could make a point by declining to apply for a seat at the UN.
Jun 17th, 2015 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps there's an Islander that knows?
7 Conq.
Jun 17th, 2015 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is a long term dream - Independence within the Br Commonwealth like a sort of mini New Zealand - but at least generation away yet! With only 3000 of us half the population would have to emigrate and become diplomats!
More importantly when you go Independent you have to paddle your own canoe as regards defence!!
Hence the referendum result in 2013 - for the time being we are very pleased and sensible to stay as a Br.Ov.Territory - with all options open as to what may be done in the future longer term.
Chicureo, yes, it was a fascinating glimpse of island life. It showed the nice bits as ever but demonstrated clearly that there is a long standing Falklands Community with strong links to Britain. There was no whining, whingeing, threats or intimidation or criminality which is a constant feature of Argyland and its inhabitants. Refreshing in our world where there is too much violence, politicking and unhappiness.
Jun 17th, 2015 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Big Mac of Dunoon will be ejected from the Combined Services Club shortly arriving here to vent his spleen after the latest skinfull. :-)
#6 ChrisR
Jun 17th, 2015 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed!
#9 sock puppet
God keep the falklands islands British forever May God protect them keep them safe and keep them free forever from Argentine attempted colonialism in Jesus Christ name Anything that may hinder this I curse it from the roots right now and command it to whither away and die in the mighty name of the Lord Jesus Christ-amen
Jun 17th, 2015 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 09
Jun 17th, 2015 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0sock puppet....
...and that told you...;-))))
@8. Don't call me Conq. How would you like it if I constantly called you Is? It's discourteous. So I only refer to comment numbers. An approach that many could usefully adopt.
Jun 17th, 2015 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you say that 'you have to paddle your own canoe as regards defence!!' Have you asked? Did you notice that I mentioned 'assistance and defence treaties'?
What, exactly, do you think you would lose? With a defence treaty that guarantees a British land garrison, air defence and naval elements. If you guarantee use of the Islands as a training area, what would change? Research Belize. See what Britain did!
Stand up on your own two feet. Don't think we'll be trying to get rid of you. Talk to your MLAs. Aren't you supposed to be brave? Despite the FCO, can you actually imagine the real Britain abandoning you? I'll wait and see whether you talk to your MLA and get a proper answer. I really want to know.
In ten years I hope to see a thriving and prosperous overseas territory with a substantial increase in non-Argentine carefully selected residents who will enjoy a living standard that of Liechtenstein or Monaco. That Chile and many of the other Latam countries, just continue to assure Argentinians that they rightfully are the owners of Las Malvinas just like we tell little children that Papa Noel and the Easter Bunny exist...
Jun 17th, 2015 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Big Mac (Voice) has pretty reliable timekeeping. Chucking out of the Combined Services at 2.30 he reels back along Shore Road right on schedule :-) What has he got to say - nothing of consequence as usual.
Jun 17th, 2015 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3128484/Shocking-moment-shoppers-wrestled-Tesco-supermarket-floor-scrambling-cut-price-food-like-scavenging-dogs.html
Jun 17th, 2015 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't even need to comment This article speaks for itself
Looks like illegal immigrants to me, it is sensationalism journalism. But thank you for pointing it out.Of course in your country that could not possibly happen could it? Wait until the new government try to administer austerity measures in Argentina. No doubt if you threw food on the floor in the Villas I am sure you would find a lot worse than the picture you paint.
Jun 17th, 2015 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17
Jun 17th, 2015 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We'll blame illegal immigrants as well.
Tarquín Fin is a sock puppet. Avoid him like the plague...
Jun 18th, 2015 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wuthout economic opportunity, women fade away...
But “unfortunately for the Argentine government...the same Falklands spirit that existed in 1982 exists today. Bullying will result only in a more determined, more defiant community”.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And yet the Argentines think that they will wear the islanders down and make them bleed. Instead due to British psychology borne of having to thrive in a tough place against the weather, isolation (historically, not currently), the Islander's blood does not weep out, but instead the scab gets harder.
If the Islanders had the Latino mentality, they would cave in rather than becoming more resistant.
If the Argentine government employed someone familiar with how the British psyche works, they would see how pointless it is, continuing to stab the custard.
¿Por qué no es aplicable el derecho de libre determinación a los habitantes de las Malvinas como sostiene el Reino Unido?
Jun 21st, 2015 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0El derecho a la libre determinación no es un derecho reconocido a cualquier comunidad humana establecida sobre un territorio, sino únicamente a los pueblos. Los actuales habitantes de las Islas Malvinas no son reconocidos como un “pueblo” por las resoluciones de las Naciones Unidas, a diferencia de los casos clásicos de colonialismo en que un pueblo preexistente es víctima de la instauración de una dominación colonial. El Reino Unido ocupó las Islas y expulsó de ellas al Estado que se encontraba ejerciendo soberanía. Procedió luego a llevar a sus propios colonos y a controlar férreamente la política migratoria de un territorio aislado. Es el gobierno colonial quien decide hasta el día de hoy la composición poblacional del territorio. Se trata de una reducida población cuya demografía no crece naturalmente, sino que es dependiente de las necesidades económicas y administrativas del gobierno colonial. Ninguna resolución de las Naciones Unidas sobre la Cuestión de las Islas Malvinas se ha referido a la libre determinación. La Asamblea General expresamente rechazó la inclusión de ese principio en las resoluciones sobre Malvinas. Los habitantes británicos de las Islas gozan indiscutiblemente de derechos civiles y políticos, pero no tienen el derecho de decidir la controversia de soberanía entre la Argentina y el Reino Unido. Los actuales habitantes de las Islas Malvinas son británicos, pero el territorio en el que viven no lo es. La Argentina que reclama el diálogo no pretende quitarles su identidad, ni cambiar su modo de vida.
@ 21 Hernán
Jun 21st, 2015 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear!
What an indoctrinated argie arsehole you are, TMBOA must be so pleased with you.
Now read this carefully: FUCK OFF.
@21 Hernan
Jun 21st, 2015 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've looked at the English translation of your jibber jabber.
A few points which you need to disprove, or alternatively you can wallow in the Malvinas Myth.
The right to self-determination is not a right recognized in any human community established over a territory
This is bullshit because:
Yes it is -it's universal. That's why in 2008 when Argentina and Spain said that self determination did not apply to lands with disputes, the UN voted that it in fact did.
The United Kingdom occupied the islands and expelled them to the State that was exercising sovereignty
This is bullshit, because:
Although this sentence is a clear example of pissed up jibber jabber, most of the settlers in 1833, with no English nationals present in January 1833 were allowed to stay.
British Islanders unquestionably enjoy civil and political rights, but do not have the right to decide the sovereignty dispute between Argentina and the United Kingdom.
This is contradictory-if they enjoy political rights, the most important of these is self determination.
This right means they have the right to decide who the country they were born in belongs to. If they didn't they would not enjoy their current status.
Argentina claims that the dialogue is not intended to take away their identity, or change their way of life.
The dialogue won't but if Imperialist Argentina colonised the Islands then the islander's way of life would be changed. Their way of life includes governing themselves, so taking this away means the Argentine text is bullshit.
Anyway, when did Argentina ever respect an agreement-this 'viva creola' cunning shit, means that Argentina's objective is always to break agreements.
The current inhabitants of the Falkland Islands are British, but the territory in which they live is not
That's funny amigo, all the signs and official documentation in the Falklands are in English. Argentina's official language is Spanish, So they can't be Argentine.
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