Uruguay and Paraguay meet to talk about Mercosur, ports and energy

Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 - 07:43 UTC

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Mercosur, ports, energy, trade are among the issues in the agenda that Paraguayan president Horacio Cartes will consider with his counterpart Tabare Vazquez when he makes a one day visit on Thursday to Montevideo, according to the Uruguayan ambassador in Asunción Federico Perazza, ahead of the meeting. Read full article

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Conqueror
Yadder, yadder, yaddar. Argieland says NO. Don't you understand when your mistress speaks?
Jun 23rd, 2015 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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redp0ll
A pretty good article explaining Paraguay and Uruguays problems with Argentina in particular which pays zero heed to the Mercosur treaty.
First thing to be done is to suspend Venezuela from membership until they have “elections” in December which will almost certainly be rigged.
Brazil, Uruguay and Paraguay should go it alone in negotiations with the EU. If in retaliation Argentina imposes 33% import taxes on them, well that can work two ways
Jun 23rd, 2015 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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ChrisR
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You are probably correct. :o(
Jun 23rd, 2015 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Briton
ports and energy

Well, Jeeves you pass the Port, and the mistress will provide the energy. lol
Jun 23rd, 2015 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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redp0ll
@4 Energy? Those bums across the Plate still havent paid for the expensive energy we sent them when they needed it
Jun 23rd, 2015 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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argfellow
@5 redpoll

Your memory seems indulgent enough to make you forget that the bulk of Salto Grande dam financing was afforded by Argentina, and that Uruguay repayed its share of the costs with part of its share (50%) of the dam´s energy output, which also means HALF of the uruguayan total electric energy production nowadays. Furthermore, in dealing with global electric energy interchange between both countries, Uruguay has always been , and by a long shot, on the debit side of the balance. But I may be wrong, however. A couple of days ago “EL PAÍS” informed, on official data, that next year, if all runs as programmed, the country might be the first ON THE WORLD to achieve the goal of getting from new, unconventional (mainly windmills) sources more energy than from the traditional ones. A doubt, however, remains with me: Will Chris R, at this news, laugh or suffer an apoplectic crisis...?
Jun 24th, 2015 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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ChrisR
@ 6 argfellow
“Will Chris R, at this news, laugh or suffer an apoplectic crisis...?”

If a country has so many of these damnable things that even at a 10% average yield (and that is VERY generous) as Uruguay does then of course the 'output' will exceed other sources.

BUT, and there is always a but, the wind in Uruguay is to say the least VERY variable, minute by minute, nevermind hour by hour. It is very common to have a 9 m/s wind which tears the washing off the line and the next minute 0 m/s and it doesn't come back.

I can see the immense problems the line managers have when I look at the UTE line voltage in on my computer systems power packs / APL's. At the present time they are reading 231V (nominal 230V) which is acceptable, however I can guarantee that by 14.00 they will show about 225V and this is in winter.

In summer it has dropped as low as 192V, by which time they packs have taken the load 100% and I have to consider shutting the systems down (I have three) before they crash.

All this due to the windmills being unable to sustain any form of reliable output at any time of the year. Switching sources seems a real problem to the UTE people and instead of 1 second. This can and does play havoc for those people and companies without any AP units which in my experience is everybody, including the government and is the reason most of the Intendencia and therefore Abitab etc. shuts down for DAYS at a time. No banks, no access to accounts, nothing.

Of course UTE never think that it is their problem and the is no reduction in bills to pay for the damage to businesses.

The real judgement on the windmills will come in five years. By this time the CVT's will be starting to fail and the power suppliers to UTE may well wash their hands of the repairs as has happened elsewhere with these things.
Jun 24th, 2015 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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