MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
US opens its market to Argentine fresh beef imports; lemons still pending
Argentina announced that the United States APHIS (Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service) has allowed fresh beef imports from Argentina, lifting a 15-year ban which Buenos Aires had always considered 'unjustified' and bluntly 'protectionist' and as such had claimed before the WTO. In the same vein Argentina also anticipated it expected a similar decision from the US regarding Argentine lemons. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI heard Europe may also be ready to soften the rules on argentine stitched-steel products, and bio-fuel.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 05:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is a good start. Argentina should demand Europe, North America, China, Japan, Australia, and Mercosur all without conditions open their markets to our products.
These actions by the foreigners, coupled with further tariffs and import bans on the products of those nations will buoy employment even more.
Yes toby, then more businesses could go the way of IMPSA! If you ever needed a clear example of protectionism killing jobs right there at your front door.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 07:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0The yanks shouldnt be subjected to Argie feedstock beef pumped full of chemicals and hormones. Oh! Their own beef is now largely the same which is why it cant be imported to the UK and Europe. British grass fed beef is the finest in the world with grass fed Dexter beef the tops. Waygu eat your heart out.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 07:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Its been proved that humans fed with the Argie stuff end up with huge feet.
Australia is open to Argentina's exports Nostrils.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0As long as it complies with AQIS so we don't have to worry about FMD..... our last FMD case was nearly 150 years ago!
@1 You are getting confused. You don't want to trade with anyone, remember? You want to isolate Argentina from the rest of the world.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Elaine
Jul 01st, 2015 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are naughty to remind our nutcase contributors of there earlier positions...
#1 What happened to your dream of the Argentine Autarky? Now you want to trade with the free, developed world? Now more dreams of a next North Korea?
Jul 01st, 2015 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kickitoff just can't help himself can he? Badmouthing a potential customer for the very things TDC: banning imports!
Jul 01st, 2015 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder what that beast in the bottom picture is whispering in the ear of the one in the centre: “Oh NO, the bat-shit mad argies are sending their poisoned beef here again!”
You have to laugh, it's easy when Kickitoff and Gollum are involved in anything.
And what about the ban on imports to this country? Simple things like Kraft salad dressing, Maille mustard which disappeared a few weeks ago and Heinz ketchup. Many things have just disappeared. And then there is the restrictions on IT related products. Computers cost more here than anywhere in the world according to a report I read recently. A simple laptop cost 3 to 4 times what it costs in Canada. And then la cretina goes on and on about how technologically advance the country is. Most people can't afford a simple damn computer.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 09. As I said a few years ago, Argentina will quickly fall behind the civilized world by not being able to afford new technology. I see that it is already happening. In a few years you'll be so far behind the avg Arg will not be able to afford to communicate with the outside world.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This period your entering will be akin to when you got color TV a generation after the rest of the world. Except this time it will be more profound since we're moving at a much faster rate.
On the beef, my guess is that Arg beef will not be considered quite the premium it used to be since most of it is no longer grass fed. Initial purchases will be higher until people find out its not worth the premium.
Plus we've not yet implemented the WTO ruling allowing us to block Arg imports. So they better sell in as much as possible until it gets shut off.
Just taking away the trade preferences on their wine has bankrupted most of their industry. Watch and see what happens when we block it altogether.
:)
@1. Let me give you a clue. Argieland may be “big” in latam, but it's insignificant to the world's leaders. So it shouldn't “demand”. Can you hear the laughter as the EU (GDP $19.035 trillion) cowers at the “threat” from argieland (GDP $953.029 billion). By the way, the United Kingdom (GDP $2.549 trillion) is so far beyond your little spanish colony. Don't “demand”. You don't have the power. Perhaps you could try begging or pleading. As history should have told you, we always have another means.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Jul 01st, 2015 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you need any of those things?
Now any foreign wine is banned from Argentina, even Chilean.
Foreign wine is illegal in Argentina.
Nothing has happened.
All countries aim to sell the most and buy the least. Argentina is just straightforward about it and now lying cowards like the foreigners.
1. Its not illegal fool its too expansive.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When your in a place where the 10% is anyone who makes over u$900/mo there's no market for anything decent.
and its only going to get worse.
@13
Jul 01st, 2015 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually it is illegal. I just found that out two days ago, it was a little known amendment from 2012.
Imports of wine were effectively frozen.
Just like all the other products mentioned here from all over the world, haven't felt anything in my personal life.
So much for foreigners and their “products” being indispensible to exist.
And your countrymen didn't know they were missing color TV either until they got it.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't know what you are missing and soon you'll be so far behind the rest of the world it will be like the bush people wondering how a Coke bottle is made and what its used for.
BTW show me the link to the legislation because I think you're lying as usual.
I don't know the legislation name. Ask any wine maker in Mendoza they will tell you. They have to travel overseas to buy foreign wines they want to try (as wine enthusiasts).
Jul 01st, 2015 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here's another idiot's spin on rotting roadkill. It is amazing how shallow the research and analysis is. Rose colored glasses all around.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.thebanker.com/World/Argentina-continues-to-walk-a-default-tightrope?ct=true
The author doesn't realize that the second golden age of commodities is PAST. Also, he fails to comprehend that the rotting roadkillians can't efficiently operate anything more technologically sophisticated than a cow.
Argentine lemons banned in the USA?
Jul 01st, 2015 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bwahahahahahaha! ! ! ! ! !
How do you mess up a lemon?
Unbelievable! !
16. Yeah that's what I figured. You're a liar through and though.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course you're an Rg so that says it all.
http://www.vinotecaargentina.com/
just a quick search and this place seems to have wine from other places are you now going to tell me they smuggled it in or bought it prior to the “legislation”
Idiota
@18
Jul 01st, 2015 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is nothing messed up but American hatred of Argentina.
You can find Mexican, Chilean produce in the US which in many cases is far more dangerous. Though not as dangerous as US produce!
And an excessively fumigated apple, grape, etc at least won't kill you after one serving.
USA and British beef on the other hand, just one tiny slightly bleeding bite can be fatal!
...“We are the world's leading producer of lemons so if we don't reach an agreement on the access of lemons to the US market, the issue will be end at the World Trade Organization”, anticipated Timerman.”...
Jul 01st, 2015 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once again the Foreign Minister is telling lies, India exports twice as many lemons as Argentina, we are third in world exports of lemons.
The reason that the USA does not import our lemons is that a certain percentage are diseased and so could damage the US production of lemons. The USA is the 6th world exporter of lemons.
How could the USA be the SIXTH world exporter of something as simple as a lemon? Even there they no longer are #1.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unbelievable!
Diseased Argentine Lemons?
Jul 01st, 2015 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And that is just the government!
In Chile, you can find Argentinian wine, all types of food products (Including beef) and manufactured goods? Fruit and vegetables are forbidden due to fruit fly issues. There are no high import duties our protective tariffs. At the Jumbo supermarket you'll find Argentinian ice cream, milk, olives, wine, frozen chicken, beef right alone with the same products produced domestically here in Chile and priced very competitively. Argentines are typically always found in the Apple stores here in Chile buying electronics because of the cost difference.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chileans on vacation in the USA will go to the malls there and fill their suitcases with goods because of the bargains. Argentines from Mendoza come here and do the same as for them, with a few exceptions is a bargain for them.
Great news for Argentina. Shame the quality of the beef is quite so poor these days
Jul 01st, 2015 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24
Jul 01st, 2015 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And..............?
rotting roadkill continues to DOMINATE (the bottom of the internationa rankings)!
Jul 01st, 2015 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just in: Tied for last with Spain at 13%!
http://www.fastcompany.com/3048047/the-future-of-work/what-motivates-employees-across-the-globe
# 4 with a score of 22!
http://www.fastcompany.com/3048047/the-future-of-work/what-motivates-employees-across-the-globe
#104 with a score of 3.8!
http://www.fastcompany.com/3048047/the-future-of-work/what-motivates-employees-across-the-globe
#1 with a score of 5393!
http://www.fastcompany.com/3048047/the-future-of-work/what-motivates-employees-across-the-globe
#54 with a score of .52!
http://www.fastcompany.com/3048047/the-future-of-work/what-motivates-employees-across-the-globe
#1 with 73%!
http://www.fastcompany.com/3048047/the-future-of-work/what-motivates-employees-across-the-globe
#107 with a 34 score!
http://www.fastcompany.com/3048047/the-future-of-work/what-motivates-employees-across-the-globe
@27
Jul 01st, 2015 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The USA leading the pack in “fully engaged” employees at a blazing hot 19% of all employees in a given company.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
(And this when the United States and China are open slave-labor states, and people can be killed for not being fully engaged)
Must be proud.
Where's the link to the legislation, liar?
Jul 01st, 2015 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I said you don't have imported wine because you can't afford it.
Even when I lived there you could only get Arg wine and it all tastes the same even at the best restaurants in the city. They think its good because they don't know any better. Just like everything they have there.
I'm still finding it funny that Argentina is not allowed to export lemons.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comedy Central from the land of jokes.
Everyday Argentina gives me something to laugh at.
Hey Trolly:
Jul 01st, 2015 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are approximately 300,000,000 Yankees that enjoy an infinitely more comfortable lifestyle than 99% plus of the rotting roadkillians. lol.
How can you get lemons 'wrong' ?
Jul 01st, 2015 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Plant a tree.
Wait.
Wait a bit more.
Pick fruit.
Take to market.
Sell fruit.
It's not that difficult.
Unless you are Argentine, obviously!
@29
Jul 01st, 2015 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Foreign wine is swill. Tried it.
American wine tastes like cheap artificial prune juice.
Chilean wine like ink mixed with chlorophyll.
Spanish wine like liquified woo with some grapes.
French wine like wet running sneakers.
Italian wine like hydroclhroric acid with rocks.
Australian wine like liquid cake powder mix.
New Zealand wine like a flat 3 -year old pepsi.
South African wine like hair tincture with sugar.
Uruguayan wine like rotten plums with cured rat beef.
Brazilian wine like fermented spit apple juice.
German wine like a wet dog sprayed with kerosene.
Chinese wine like jean coloring laboratory.
Portuguese wine like bitter Pepto-bismol.
Never again. Only Argentine wine, the only wine that is wine.
33. That's a remarkably provincial and uneducated statement and most of the world would disagree with you.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As they say ignorance is bliss
You must be very blissful
Stupid Rg.
But tobi, you stated that all foreign wine is illegal.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yet you seem to have access to a lot of contraband wine.
So you are either
a) A Liar
b) A Criminal
which is it?
@35
Jul 01st, 2015 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There was a time before the ban... duh!
So neither a liar nor a criminal. I'll take option C, the one foreign morons like you failed to consider!
@34
But you know it is not uneducated, because those descriptions are REMARKABLY UNIQUE. How could I think of the in less than 4 minutes if I did not have extensive experience trying them all?? No one with no experience could come up with such creative, quick, and ACCURATE descriptions
So not ignorance at all. This poor provincial argie has tried more wine, from more places, and pricier ones than you will ever have in your lifetime.
#33
Jul 01st, 2015 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, fine...
...but what about allowing your fellow citizens take advantage of purchasing Uruguayan Tannats, or Chilean Carmeneres...
Perhaps they have a more sophisticated palate....
Only a Cámpora troll does not know anything he's talking about...
@37
Jul 01st, 2015 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have hinted before in the past sporadically that I know more about wine than all of you put together. I have demonstrated it in the past and everyone stayed quiet.
I used to think foreign wine was decent but then I met actual foreigners. Such a devastating misfortune does change your mind about life.
@38, No, you really have not demonstrated that you understand wines at all. Packing wine in boxes does not make you an expert.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have gloated and boasted about being poor so how on earth can you have tried the great wines of the world? You tell so many lies you forget yourself.
@38 ha ha. please send through details of your wine cellar plus pkr pts
Jul 01st, 2015 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#38
Jul 01st, 2015 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps you should have tried wine that is in bottles instead of the Tetrapak boxes you purchased instead...
Argentina has some very good reds, but so does many other countries in the world. ...
Argentinian Tempranillo… horse piss!
Jul 01st, 2015 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chilean wines knocks Argie dishwater for 6
Viva Chile!
Norton Malbecs ugh
Jul 01st, 2015 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The problem of course is that Argentina (like many wine producing countries) produces very good and absolutely awful wines.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have had some stunning Malbecs from Argentina and we used to prefer Chandon for our “Champagne” but now Chile has some outstanding Malbecs to accompany our world class wines and there are at least 4 domestic “Champagnes” that are as good or better than Chandon.
Biggest problem for Argentina is they can't compete due to economic factors. Wine producers are going broke and I feel sorry for them.
I'm just enjoying the fact that all of you trash my persona for being so 'uninformed' about wines because I trash foreign wine, and you attempt to prove this by unanimously trashing Argentine wine.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As the ancient saying goes, Anglos will be Anglos.
I am also in glee that I have Elaine all confused in her own convoluted and over-engineered female mind. How can an unemployed, piss-poor, inferior Argie that never leaves his basement computer and has never travelled beyond Necochea or Mina Clavero, with no money, have enjoyed finer wines than my superior English DNA has?
LOL, as always I will leave it to her to figure it out.
#45
Jul 01st, 2015 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Elaine figured you out a long time ago...
...delusions of grandeur ...
Pathological lier...
...angry, envious, lazy and completely ignorant of the world...
Anglo logic:
Jul 01st, 2015 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You are an imbecile you trash all foreign wine, how uneducated. Everyone knows all Argentine wine is trash.”
The irony of the above will never reach the stunted neuron(s) of the Anglos here. How do I enjoy framing them for what they in front of a global internet audience!
#38 Intelligent people who are extraordinary do not believe it and people who need to shut their thoughts off talk too much. Self confidence is distributed all wrong wouldn't you agree? I would say and others might agree that the line between your self confidence and arrogance is ultra fine, but that the line between your arrogance and stupidity has been breached numerously.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What happened to your quest for an autarky?
Roving back to #20....in what state have you eaten American beef? That's mighty bold talk for an Argentina trans-sexual who's never left the country he pretends to live in.
So....what happened with your wannabe autarky?
One more piece or advice sheboi, knowledge makes people humble . Arrogance makes you stupid.
I have been somewhat absent form the forums exactly to foment a completely foreign-free national state. I have not been completely successful in my efforts, but it is only a matter of time. As the old people die out, the ones open to the world, my generation of xenophobes and intelligent people who see foreigners for what they are, will become majority, and then Argentina may have a chance again.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have always said Argentina makes a great under U$10 bottle of wine.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Above u$10 there's much much much better out there.
Toby lost his job a winery. That's how he came into contact with foreigners and that's why he learned so many foreign words. That's also why he's so bitter. They thought the party would never end. Now they're all nursing a huge headache that they think is a hangover but its really brain cancer.
I have been somewhat absent form the forums exactly to foment a completely foreign-free national state. I have not been completely successful in my efforts, but it is only a matter of time. As the old people die out, the ones open to the world, my generation of xenophobes and intelligent people who see foreigners for what they are, will become majority, and then Argentina may have a chance again.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby, Only the stupid and lazy are left in Argentina. Every generation the smart ambitious people leave because they know there's no opportunity there. Every year, every decade, every generation the population gets dumber and poorer.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Being proud that your still left in a no opportunity country is showing what a utter failure and loser you are and always will be.
Next year you'll be poorer.
Same as what happened this year
and on and on
@51 Ah, the big plot to take over the world. How did it go last time?
Jul 01st, 2015 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I only participated as an attache to that failed operation. I had no control over the fact that others decided to utilize the gathered information for individual gain.
This project is 100% under my control, believe me, it will take place. And actually will shock YOU most of all! So fitting that you would comment first.
My long term planning is beyond your comprehension.”
We are all waiting. Honestly, you tell so many lies you wouldn't recognise yourself in a room full of mirrors.
Elaine
Jul 01st, 2015 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's heavy into sniffing glue again...
There's a really common problem with children playing in the fields an close to the field while they are being crop dusted. They also over use the chemicals and use them too close to schools and homes.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think he (and a lot of the weirdos here) have brain damage.
and I am being totally serious
That Olympic troll really is annoying. I am a Canadian...born and raised and I am retired here in Mendoza...“Capital Internacional de Vino”. Almost every single restaurant in this wine city serves their wine at room temperature. If you want it cold they offer you ice cubes!!! And in summer if is very hot here. As for the beef in this country...what beef? Normally tough and tasteless. As for lemons, until about a year ago you could almost never find a lemon in the store or anywhere else for that matter. The best place to buy fruit and vegetables is at road side kiosks. In a country that produces so much it seems to me that the best is used for export and the citizens can eat the left overs. In grocery stores tomatoes are kept in the cooler (no-no) and eggs are kept on a shelf out of the cooler even though it says right on the container that they must be store between 8 and 15 degrees. About 2 years ago I found frozen blue berries in the supermarket. The major language on the packaging was English. And it was indicated they were for export only. They were high quality berries but I expect them to just disappear one day also. Its not just imported things that disappear...even products made here are gone. Something is seriously wrong in this country.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nostril, whats this state called you are fomenting? Winos Inc?
Jul 01st, 2015 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Suggestions please… ..
The only thing you argies have a RIGHT to demand=
Jul 01st, 2015 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is the toilet paper,
An that is wiping the bottom of the trench...
TTT is like a lot of disenfranchised young people the world over. He is not unique. He is not entirely stupid either. That he thinks we believe his grandiose plans is a personality flaw. Reading between the lines his life is pretty hopeless. We should pity him.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stupid Austral Elvis is yapping about how his plan is to “re-industrialize” Argentina.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How the F many times in the last century have these Peronista idiots said that?
And they're still devolving just now at a faster rate...
Gads it takes a special kind of idiot to listen to that crap with a straight face.
He's not qualified to work at a McDonalds here.
@ 60 yankeeboy
Jul 01st, 2015 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“He's not qualified to work at a McDonalds here.”
I think he might be OK cleanings the “rest rooms” as long as he was supervised!
:o)
It had to happen eventually. It's a matter of human rights. How could U.S. citizens continued to be deprived of the best meat in the world?
Jul 01st, 2015 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 062. Grass Fed USA beef is better than anything you can get out of Argentina.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's beef isn't labeled and there's no quality standards.
Its pretty much luck of the draw if you get something decent or not.
@62 Why do you deprive yourself? Quick, book a one way flight back to the country you love so much and you can have Argentine beef every single day! Except you won't because you know your life is so much better in Canada.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once again, Reeeeeeeeeeeeeekie is trying to pontificate on a topic of which he has NO knowledge. LOL.
Jul 01st, 2015 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nostrils says:
Jul 01st, 2015 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I used to think foreign wine was decent but then I met actual foreigners.”
So his personality is so fragile and will so weak that he allows foreigners to change his personality and outlook!
So once he drank French wine until he met a foreigner and suddenly it tasted “like wet running sneakers.”
First off, I'm extremely concerned that Nostrils knows what wet running shoes taste like - but then remembered that my country doesn't have the poverty and hunger experienced in Argentina so perhaps this is a known taste there. And secondly, the foreigner or foreigners that caused this change in personality and taste are oblivious to their effect.
Nostrils allowed himself to become a permanent and self-perpetuating victim. But no one else cares or was affected and the perpetrators are oblivious to their power.
I do notice though that Nostrils has moved from autarky to mercantilism.
“We are the world's leading producer of lemons”
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're not kidding Gollum, you are one, as is Boudou, Austral Elvis, Bogbrush, the Botox Queen, Captain Itch and Scumfilm.
Never suck on an Argentine lemon you only have to look at Kirchner's face to see what happens SOUR AND BITTER
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bubblear.com/the-kirchnerites-strike-back-with-weirdest-music-video-ever/
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Viva Kirchnerism.
@ 69 yankeeboy
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If anybody thinks the argies are not bat-shit mad, they only have to look at that video!
:o)
You don't need the video proof to know they're all a bit nuts.
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyhoo same month comparable to last year Gov't spending is up 45%
Beware of the Tsunami of inflation coming
I can hear the tide rushing out now
:)
Any person reasonably informed knows the Pampas have the perfect climate, tempered with grass growing all year round.
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cattle there produce the perfect short ribs to be barbecued--our unique asado--while you will be out of luck with short ribs produced anywhere else--animals too old producing ribs too fatty, good for pot-au-feu only.
Other cattle-producing countries such as Brasil are too hot, although their zebu cattle is fine to be ground for hamburgers.
North America has cold winters and cattle need grain and dry hay supplements when the grass does not grow. Europe is a bit more humid and tempered but they have cattle producing meat that is too lean--healthier but less tasty.
To be fair, Alberta beef is excellent. Top sirloin steaks are marbled, top quality.
I hope I'll be soon able to purchase Argentine-produced short ribs so that I can share with friends here--using my charcoal barbecue (never a gas-fired one).
72. You be disappointed in the feed lot fattening that started about a decade ago in Argentina.
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My guess after the initial purchasing of “premium” beef it will not be considered “premium” any longer.
Psst Reekie I lived there and was asked to invest in feedlots..I know way more than your 40yr old fantasies...
Enrique, dear oh dear, you are showing just how completely out of touch you are. About 95% of Argentinian Beef is now produced on feed lots. The Pampas has disappeared under a blanket of Soy! Lol!!!!! And, all the beef cattle are either Aberdeen Angus or Herefords from Britain!
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Delusions are OK when you are comfortably squatting in Canada, try getting in touch with reality.
it is the best beef in the world by far.
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0thats why WE are the most important supplier of quota hilton.
losers
@75 Tell us, which countries have you sampled beef from. I think you will find you are living off a past reputation rather than the reality of today.
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 076. I don't blame then at all, their past is way better than their present and future.
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Last time I was in BA I couldn't find a good place for beef and I was traveling with an Rg friend that's lived in the USA for many years he was totally shocked at how bad the quality has become.
elaina.
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you know nothing about beef as you know nothing about football or polo.
YOU have to be ARGENTINIAN to know about those topics.
i have sampled beef from Argentina (of course), Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan and chilotelandia.
all of them decent, except the chilote and the paraguayan.
but the best of all is, of course, the argentinian.
even the feed lot beef from argentina is better than the “premium” beef from the other countries.
anyway, i stopped eating red meat 12 months ago, and eat a lot more vegetables and fish.
and i am totally against feed lots, for many reasons.
you should stop eating red meat too, elaina.
yboy.
so you couldn't find a good place for beef, eh???.
my theory is you have never been here in your life.
otherwise you should know that la cabrera, cabaña las lilas and many, many others have the best beef on earth.
i strongly, strongly doubt that you have ever, ever left the islets.
@78 You are betraying your country by not eating red meat.
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“YOU have to be ARGENTINIAN to know about those topics.” You mean you have to be ARGENTINEAN to understand the brainwashed perspective on those topics.
I don't know why you waste your time telling me what I should say or think. Your opinion is worthless to me and pretty much laughed at by everyone else.
78. Paul I've been to every good restaurant that existed in BA and every major city in Argentina. I had nothing to do for the 6 yrs I lived there but eat, drink and play.
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only reason Argentineans think they have the best beef and wine is because they tell everyone it is so. There is no real evidence outside of their limited imagination.
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are some good Argentina wines and they produce some good beef. The rest is just marketing that they seem to believe without question or experience of the alternatives.
The reason so many other Latin countries laugh at and despise Argentines in equal measure is their over-inflated egos and delusions of grandeur based on past glories. I don't dislike Argentines the way most people seems to but I cannot help but laugh when TTT and PC make unsubstantiated and outrageous claims of greatness.
81. Yep. Most of them have never traveled anywhere, including their own country much less another continent.
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The food is good but I've had better other places.
The wine is good for cheap wine.
I don't know why they get so bent out of shape they never got over Mine is Bigger than your's or My Dad can beat up your Dad.
The whole country has a self esteem problem.
I got into a lot of trouble when I said their Obelisc is a cheap knock off of the Washington Monument.
They don't' realize theirs is much smaller and you can go up in the Washington Monument its not just a poorly made clad structure.
Kinda representative of their whole country I guess
Trying to be something they aren't
and never will be.
what a big, big pair of ignoramuses you both are.
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0first, you will never hear an argentinian saying that the best wines are argentinian, simply because the whole world knows that the best wines are french, spanish and italian.
we have good wines, the best of the americas. period.
in the same way, you will never heard an intelligent american, australian, kiwi whatever, saying that the best beef is american or australian, simply because the whole world knows that the best is argentinian.
as for the obelisK (with K in ENGLISH), it is not a question of which one is taller or bigger and all that crap.
there are hundreds OR thousands of obelisks around the globe, and the most important in terms of history, are just 30 m tall.
the important thing about them is its symbology, the representation of sun god ra, and the monolithism of the oldest ones.
clearly you both have never been in egypt, which is not bad.
the bad thing is that you both dont know a shite about monuments and its significance.
Gads Paul you need to leave that land o'delusion and get into the real world with the rest of us.
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was just telling a story of how I offended an ignorant Rg about their crappy monuments.
When I got my apt in BA, I was on the balcony looking at the Rio D P and the agent said “Just like New York” right, I rolled my eyes, laughed and said “obviously you've never been there” and walked away.
Poor thing
Typical of the no nothing 3rd worlders.
I wouldn't know if Argentinean beef is any good as I'd be stupid to try and buy foreign beef in Australia. I suppose I'll try some Argentinean beef when I get to Argentina.
Jul 03rd, 2015 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0However I trust Australian and New Zealand food standards much more than I do any other country. Why our produce gets such a premium on China these days.
@83 “first, you will never hear an argentinian saying that the best wines are argentinian, ” TTT said it. Are you suggesting that TTT is NOT Argentinean? Interesting.
Jul 03rd, 2015 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am still waiting for TTT to produce the link to the legislation that prohibits the sale of foreign wine in Argentina.
Jul 03rd, 2015 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think TDC needs to deal with the 15M LEMONS it has, the strain known colloquially as Peronistas, before it tries to sell them to the US, surely?
Jul 03rd, 2015 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#81 ElaineB
Jul 03rd, 2015 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Elaine: While growing in my home country, I used to think those who praised Argentine beef were boasting. I considered Argentine meat a “normal” meat.
Then I went to live in other countries. Don't get me wrong: I got to try fantastic foods in European countries. In France I was delighted when I discovered tête de veau.
I agree with Paul: Argentine wines are not bad but you got to try a French Châteauneuf-du-Pape for an out-of-this-world experience.
After a few years, I came back, sat at a “parrilla” restaurant and asked for a piece of “vacio.” They brought me a piece about one-and-a-half inch thick of the boneless cut grilled in a not-flaming wood fire to medium rare.
When I took the first mouthful, I was stunned. I understood what I had never believed before.
Argentine beef is something else. Period.
I would never eat Ozzer food, with Anglo standards that are proven to be unsafe, both in beef and in water. They sold KANGAROO meat as premium beef in the recent past for George's Sake!!
Jul 03rd, 2015 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ridiculous.
Meanwhile in the NorthAmoan paradise:
http://news.yahoo.com/woman-randomly-shot-death-popular-san-francisco-pier-235244619.html;_ylt=A0LEVjetDZdVgAYA1KAnnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTE0NDRuY2hjBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDRkZYVUkzMl8xBHNlYwNzYw--
”SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A young woman was shot to death, apparently at random, while walking with her father and a friend along a popular pedestrian pier on the San Francisco waterfront.
The woman was shot Wednesday evening at Pier 14 and died at a hospital.
Police did not release her name, but she was identified as Kathryn Steinle, 32, by the San Francisco Chronicle (http://news.yahoo.com/woman-randomly-shot-death-popular-san-francisco-pier-235244619.html;_ylt=A0LEVjetDZdVgAYA1KAnnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTE0NDRuY2hjBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDRkZYVUkzMl8xBHNlYwNzYw-- ).
Her mother, 69-year-old Liz Sullivan, told the newspaper, “She just kept saying, 'Dad, help me, help me.' ”
HOW HORRIBLE!! But it gets even more fourth world...
“The area is one of the busiest tourist destinations in San Francisco.
The slaying was particularly shocking because it happened in broad daylight in a place where tourists gather to take in the views, joggers exercise, and families push strollers at all hours.
Two television news crews reporting on the killing were later mugged at the scene, with a masked gunman pistol-whipping a camera operator. The robber took cameras from KNTV and KTVU before he jumped into a black BMW and fled.”
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This is supposedly the safest big city in the USA, and a poor young woman just gets shot like a dog and KILLED crying “help me”, in the most popular area of the city! And then not one, but TWO television channel crews get ROBBED at GUN POINT by masked gunmen and get their equipment stolen???
That's the NorthAmoan paradise we are all supposed to bewonder.
Not even in Somalia!
@89 Of course, your one experience surely proves your opinion beyond doubt. How very narcissistic. You once ate a good steak in Argentina so they must produce the best steak in the world. The more balanced view point is that some Argentine steak is good but so is steak from other countries.
Jul 04th, 2015 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0@90 TTT did you see that PC does not believe you are Argentine?
Kangaroo meat is extremely healthy. The healthiest red meat. And don't have to worry about foot and mouth like Argentina does.
Jul 04th, 2015 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see that Nostrils still can't accept that the homocide rate is HIGHER in Argentina.
You are more likely to be mirdered in Argentina than the US. Please continue to post these heartbreaking stories Nostrils. But as murder is so much more common in Argentina it is hardly surprising that those murders aren't considered newsworthy. Too much Peronist propaganda crowds it out.
I feel sorry for Kathryn Steinle but statistically speaking her mother and father would have also been killed if this story was from Argentina.
Dude, get over it. Argentineans are more murderous. Be proud of your country's accomplishments..... if you survive.
@92
Jul 04th, 2015 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HAHAHAHAHA, yes I'm sure it is. For Anglo stomachs. Argie stomachs are too sensitive and evolved we will skip it thank you. We even have a hard time with chicken.
Only premium beef will do here.
And no, the homicide rate is not higher in Argentina, you saying it does not change the reality in fact it reiforces it, since your racism and hatred of Argentina guarantees that any claim you it is most likely that the opposite is in fact true.
No in Argentina I have never heard of someone being murdered in the middle of a square full of people, the killer successfully fleeing, and then with heavy police presence two television crews by ROBBED AT GUN POINT and the robber getting away with cameras and getting through all the police presence!!
That is fourth world.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/adelaide-crows-coach-phil-walsh-allegedly-murdered-by-son/story-fndv7pj3-1227426317589
Ozzers have the Anglo murder gene. Why do you think all the most notorious serial killers are Ozzer, Britto, or NorthAmoan? NONE from any other nation.
skippy
Jul 04th, 2015 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Kangaroo meat is extremely healthy. The healthiest red meat. ”
yuk
and double yuuuuuk
are you nuts or wot???
and you should be jailed for killing kangaroos.
it is totally illegal.
hillbillies....
@93 You are not even Argentine, PC confirmed it.
Jul 04th, 2015 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I had reindeer steaks in Finland last week. Delicious and so tender. You need to evolve a bit PC.
elaine
Jul 04th, 2015 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no.
you do need to evolve a lot, my dear, dear elaina.
it seems the whole world knows it, except you isleteers
here are the reasons:
eating red meat hardens blood vessels
you're eating pink slime.
you can get sick from E. coli
eating meat ups your risk of type 2 diabetes
red meat is chock full of harmful hormones
@96 So your beef industry is killing Argentines.
Jul 04th, 2015 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0elaina
Jul 04th, 2015 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in some way, yes.
but it is even worse, a lot worse, people like you lot, who are permanently killing kangaroos, reindeers, deers, seals, penguins, dolphins, etc, to prepare strange meals, very foreign to bon goût.
it seems that are potions of sorcery.
@98 I told you a million times not to exaggerate.
Jul 04th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need to get out a bit and travel more. What seems 'strange' to you is perfectly normal to other people. BTW no one eats penguins voluntarily, they taste awful.
Vamos, Vamos Chile.
Yay Chile.
Jul 04th, 2015 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Superstitious Rgs will think this is a bad omen of for their country.
It is...
:)
Did you hear they had to move Messi's family as the fans were throwing objects at them?
Jul 04th, 2015 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am guessing there is dancing in the streets in Chile tonight.
I was just at a Latino 4th of July party talking to some Rgs that were desperately trying to figure out how to stay in the USA.
Jul 05th, 2015 - 03:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0They were almost crying saying they're doomed and they know it.
I felt bad for them.
Nice educated guys in their late 20s early 30s with no opportunity in their country.
@ 99 ElaineB
Jul 05th, 2015 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I told you a million times not to exaggerate.”
I like it, do you think he will understand it though?
:o)
lets see, elaina and the other 2 ignoramuses:
Jul 05th, 2015 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it is because i travel a fucking lot, a lot more than i would like, that i can tell you that those meals you eat, penguins, seals, reindeers, dogs, cats, etc, are totally unhealthy and odds with the morals.
a typical sign of your huge, huge ignorance and lack of bon gout.
yuk
104. You should look in the mirror if you want to see someone ignorant, vile and uneducated.
Jul 05th, 2015 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are what I would have called grosero when I lived in Argentina.
I don't know if you think you're being funny or clever but you're not being either.
You're a very sad person.
Go get a job and find some worth in your life.
@93 Tobi
Jul 05th, 2015 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Ozzers have the Anglo murder gene. Why do you think all the most notorious serial killers are Ozzer, Britto, or NorthAmoan? NONE from any other nation.”
The top 3 serial killers by number of victims are all Latam child killers.
The US doesn't get a mention until number 10. There are no Brits or Aussies in the entire top 20.
Always a pleasure to contribute to your education.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_killers_by_number_of_victims
what are you, dear ignorant hillbillies, going to eat today?
Jul 05th, 2015 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0rat?
squirrel?
@107 Awww, did your team lose?
Jul 05th, 2015 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ding dong...
Jul 06th, 2015 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js
Sing it high sing it low...
:0
elaina
Jul 06th, 2015 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0“12 ElaineB
Jul 03rd, 2015 - 01:27 pm
I was having dinner with some Chileans in Russia last week and they seemed very pleased about having helped us beat the Argentines in The Falklands War.”
and
“95 ElaineB
Jul 04th, 2015 - 04:36 pm
I had reindeer steaks in Finland last week. Delicious and so tender. You need to evolve a bit PC.”
it seems to me that elaina is a big, big liar.
@110 I think you need a lesson in geography. Helsinki and Saint Petersburg are but a train ride apart. This week I am in the USA. My work involves a lot of travel.
Jul 06th, 2015 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now, did your team lose? Is that why you are looking for a distraction?
my dear, dear elaina
Jul 06th, 2015 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so in 1 (ONE) week you have been to pork stanley, helsinki, san petersburgo, moscow and then you returned to to pork stanley...
the funny thing is that the duration of the trip from pork stanley to, let's say san petersburgo, is 1 week, if you take in account the net flight time, wait time, scales, customs procedures, possible delays, etc.
i say you have never left pork stanley.
@112 Bless your befuddled brain, as I have told you repeatedly, I live in England. Yes, I went to Saint Petersburg, Russia, Helsinki, Finland, back to England and on to Chicago all in the space of a week. Bloody jet lag was awful but you said you travel so surely you understand with these new fan-dangled flying machines it is easy enough to travel such distances in a week. I am flying to the East Coast today. See how easy it is?
Jul 06th, 2015 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have never been to The Falkland Islands but it is on my wish list.
You haven't really travelled anywhere have you? If you had you would not be at all surprised with my itinerary.
Thing is @113 , you are trying to correct an institutionalised moron. He doesnt have a clue how most of us live. Recently went to Oz/NZ , 15 flights in 28 days - 25000 miles but that was a holiday. I have been to the Islands which are stunning and the wildlife is wonderful. Unfortunately for Paul, there are no Lamas :-( Keep up the good work.
Jul 06th, 2015 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@114 PC is astonishingly small town/small minded. He partly does it to try to obtain information but in the process he makes himself look like a village idiot.
Jul 06th, 2015 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol.
Jul 06th, 2015 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so a girl born and raised in the ultra-cosmopolitan city of pork stanley is calling me “small town / small minded”.
the funniest thing is that, probably, she has never seen an elevator in her whole life.
not to mention traffic lights.
mon dieu...
You don't know what good beef is until you've had beef that's reared on tussac grass Paul, as we do in the Falklands, far better than your Pampas dogmeat no matter how much bullshit you spread about it being the 'best in the world'
Jul 06th, 2015 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do they have traffic lights in BA? Of course, made in UK like the post boxes and that big clock covered in grafitti. LOL!
Jul 06th, 2015 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They dont have them in Villa 31 though.
@116 Hahaha. Moron.
Jul 07th, 2015 - 02:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0@93 & 94
Jul 07th, 2015 - 05:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0FYI, not many people know this, but Central Australian aborigines still use sign language to communicate at times. The gesture for food emulates a hopping kangaroo. We've been eating 'roo's for thousands of years down under and yes, it is the leanest red meat you can eat. And my cat LOVES it.
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