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Alejandro Betts' Malvinas veteran pension turns into controversy

Saturday, July 4th 2015 - 05:20 UTC
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Falklands born, Argentine citizen Alejandro Betts rejected statements published in Clarin which described his 'Malvinas veteran' pension as 'controversial' and admitted he was surprised, when not startled by the headline display the news was given by the Buenos Aires daily in reference to his activity during the 1982 South Atlantic conflict. Read full article

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  • Skip

    “....one of the requisites to collect the veteran's pension is to have effectively been at the Malvinas Operations Theatre”

    Hear that?

    Every Falkland Islander over the age of 32 can collect the pension.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    He deserves his quisling pension - Betts was a spy for Argentina

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Yep, everyone is an Argentine according to Argie logic. I would request that everyone of working age in 1982 send a letter to TMBOA for said pension.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    I'm guessing that's US$1,000 per year? Over 23,000 people.... 9,000 that didn't even fight!

    So the government wastes US$9 million a year. That would employ more than a 100 teachers per year in my country...... probably triple or quadruple that in Argentina.

    Wow all those kids in the slums could be actually gaining a real future..... except people like Alex Betts need their 30 pieces of silver.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 07:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Livepeanuts

    I believe he fullfills the statutory requirements for an Argentine Veteran's Pension. I agree with some here, he deserves his pension from an Argentine point of view. As from those loyal to Her Mayesty, also these are his pieces of silver and he is entitled to them too.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    'besides 22 caliber shots from sharpshooters in Puerto Argentino that appeared when the sun went down”, '

    that's a new one... the man lies like a pig in shit....

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Feathers McGraw

    In the old days they used to put traitors in front of a firing squad, didn't they?

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marc1

    #4
    That's $13000 per month actually, not per annum, which makes it even worse.
    He's not a veteran in any sense of the word and considering how badly genuine Argentine veterans have been cheated by their government, they have genuine reason to feel vexed.
    He's a traitor, but a very useful traitor.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    One of my managers was a Marine Commando in 42 Commando and did three tours of N. Ireland.

    He always said that the only thing he was ever concerned about were the laughingly called 'army' using their rabbit rifles fitted with a sound moderator. You would be on duty and without any warning whatsoever one of you details would go down having been hit by a soft lead 0.22rf lr bullet. No-one died as far as he knew from this action but it caused a fair amount of unease.

    Betts of course is lying through his teeth regarding the risk he was taking, a risk brought about by himself turning his back on his pregnant wife and child for an argie tart.

    He has earned his place in argie society: he really is one of them. Despicable arsehole that he is.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    He is lying. Quite a lot of the population of Stanley lived through the war, in town, and say, despite the circumstances, it wasn't that bad i.e. bullets flying all over the place, bombs going off in the middle of town. Civilians working for the military do not receive a military pension.
    He wasn't even a spy. He is just a sad, misguided idiot, grasping at anything he can get his hands on. The RG government use him as an example to bolster their false version of events throughout history. There are far more deserving people than he, of the rights to a military pension.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Outstanding videos of the Falkland Islands
    http://51degreessouth.com
    For those who have never seen it, you will be impressed.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    “Likewise Betts argues that during the Malvinas war, there was a hostile attitude towards him from all the Islanders living in Puerto Argentino, because of his well known position in favor of Argentine sovereignty over the Islands, ”

    And then these good-for-nothing isleteers say they are democratic.
    lol
    yeah, right...

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Chicureo, great videos. I was just fantasising about letting Steve the Stuffer have a go at Potty Paul and Nostril. I dont think the museum has any specimens of Argie Trolls at the moment.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    “Betts who was born in Stanley (Puerto Argentino), descendent of a British family”

    Does this not make him a “Squatter” part of an “implanted population”?

    Cost/costing the Argy tax payer a small fortune this boy, Toby and Axel’s tax Pesos at work.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    “Does this not make him a “Squatter” part of an “implanted population”?”

    of course NOT.
    it makes him an argentinian of british descent.
    another argentinian whose ancestors were immigrants.
    whats the problem with that?
    eh??

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @12
    Of course the FALKLANDERS are democratic, they exercise their right to be hostile if they want. You Paul are all implanted immigrants just get over it. You just call yourselves Argentinian as the immigrants to the FALKLANDS call themselves FALKLANDERS. Sounds ok to me.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DerkeBlake

    @ 11 Chicureo

    Thanks so much for the link; much appreciated. I've visited but have never seen those clips before. We actually golfed with Ady (the milk dude); wonderfully genuine and principled fellow (and counts all his strokes!).

    Especially enjoyed:

    http://51degreessouth.com/no12-community/

    http://51degreessouth.com/no12-community/

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @15 paulcedron
    So if he is now an Argy, now he is an Indian murdering, Creole, Planter Bastard, yes!

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ernest shackleton

    A pension of 13,000 pesos a month? That would almost put him in the “rich list” esp. for provincial Arg. I know a 30 y.o who after studying for years now works as a computer programmer in Resistencia (awful place admittedly) for just 8,000 a month. I would guess for pension purposes he's classed as a general like the British KGB traitors George Blake and Kim Philby.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @19 ernest shackleton
    Not to mention his salary from the Ministry of Mythical places as well and soon another one as a member of Parlasur.

    + Expenses no doubt, as well as “fringe benefits”.

    Cost/costing the Argy tax payer a small fortune this boy, Toby and Axel’s tax Pesos at work.

    Wonder if he has any claim to a British pension as well!

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    what happens?
    are you isleteers envious of mr betts?
    eh??

    and you talk about how much the guy costs for us?
    you isleteers??
    the kings and queens of the parasites???
    you should ask the honest, impoverished british taxpayer how much they spend to support you all.

    get a real job, my dear isleteers.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    To be a veteran, surely you need to have been involved in some way , to defend / fight , or be involved with the military or civilian services,

    DID he actually serve in the war in any capacity,

    if he did, what side did he fight on, and what government did he give his loyalty to,

    1, Argentina=Argentina pays his pension,
    2, Falklands==the Falkland's pays his pension,
    3, British , ==the British pays his pension,
    4. Malvinas==then the Malvinas pays his pension,

    simple you surprisingly complicated....lol
    p/s, if he fought for no one ,then no one pays his pension,

    I may have this entirely wrong...lol

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    @21: “are you isleteers envious of mr betts?
    eh??”
    Hardly, Paulie. He fits in just fine with you lot. Nasty, slithery, backstabbing and stupid.
    No one was envious of his getting well in with his colonising masters, he thought they would win and he wanted in with them. Along with running away from a legal marriage to marry his girlfriend, makes him a bigamist and then he thinks he deserves a military pension? Come on! I knew you were dumb, but are you really as dumb as you appear to be? He is effectively stealing money from far more deserving people!
    He was and is a coward, first and foremost. He was not a soldier. He did not fight. He never faced an enemy (unless you count the RG forces). He underwent no hardship. His life was never in danger. He is just a lying, bigamist coward.
    Trust me, no one is in the slightest way jealous of him.
    Got it?

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    but are you really as dumb as you appear to be?

    Afraid he is...lol

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    @21: Sorry Paulie, but the British tax payer doesn't pay a penny to support me. At all. Nada. Nothing.
    All Falland Islands pensions are paid for from the Falkland Islands public purse. Not being old enough, I don't get a penny, yet. And, just to piss you off, I will also receive a British Pension, as well, when I reach pensionable age. I'll have earned the right to three pensions!! Plus my private income! There are a lot us like this!
    Whereas, your Alex Betts gets a pension to which he is not entitled. Because he isn't and has never been “military”.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Paulecedron:

    List please the money we Islanders receive from the UK - ie british taxpayers please?

    LIST IT

    Or Shut up you silly little tit.

    Do not list the defence Cost as it is just half of 1% of the overall UK defence Budget - and that money would be spent if the military are here - in wongawonga land or timbucktoo -or Germany or UK or exercising in Canada - it makes NO difference. In fact whilst here they can do joint services live training exercises that they would have difficulty being able to do anywhere else in the world.

    My elderly parents were in Stanley all the time with mr Betts- they were never afraid and there were no Br bullets to dodge- just sometimes at night triggerhappy scared young Arg conscripts would fire at cats in the dark etc and shot up the Roman catholic Ministers bathroom loo one night - he was NOT amused!- and luckily not performing at the time!
    Bettsy boy writes a lot of lies and fantasy stories - but he would - he is now an Argentine!

    But come on - LIST these funds we get from the UK taxpayers please - LIST THEM

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Whatever.com

    Bloody hell, he talks like he was there fighting in the trenches. He was just another civilian in Stanley.

    I had some British ordnance come close to to me as well, maybe I'm entitled to a 'veterans' pension for my part eh?

    What a wanker.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    27- yes a guy I know had 3 x 100olb bombs dropped on him by the RAF by mistake and lost one eye - he does not get nor asked for a pension! He,s happy to have his freedom and right to live in his homeland restored to him.
    Bettsy boy - the yellow coward as ever.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    On the other hand, RGland STILL receives £36m from the British government, every year for education.

    Jul 04th, 2015 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    36 million UKP? Thats 1 pound per RG.... you get what you pay for I guess ...

    Back to Betts.... maybe some Islander did spend 3 months taking nocturnal potshots at him and nobody else but him... nobody likes a traitor...not even those allegiance has been transferred to.... so even if he did complain to the occupying power they would have taken no notice.... just a shrug of the shoulders and a muttered 'well what did you expect you horrible little worm'.

    War pensions for non combatents? Good for him then good for all the civilian residents of Rio Gallegos etc who also had to live with the fear of somebody dropping something nasty on their heads.

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Come on PAULCEDRON - we are still waiting for you to LIST all thje money the UK taxpayers have to pay to we Islanders then?

    Come on - just for once can you perhaps come up with the facts to back up your wild inaccurate statements you rush out with?

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    To those who have constantly insulted Chile's football team...
    CHILE 2015 Copa America Champions

    2nd place: Argentina

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @32 Viva Chile!!

    In yer jocks Argentina!

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Well done Chile and well done to the England Ladies football team coming third in the world cup by beating Germany.

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Argentina spends MORE per year on mythical Malvinas soldiers who never fought than the UK spends on defence on the islands.

    MORE!

    US$108 million a year wasted on people like Alex Betts.

    Farcical when you consider how much poorer Argentina is compared to the UK.

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Chile, Chile, Chile!!! The hand (of the real) God dealt a death blow to the cheating lying cowardly Dark Country.

    Viva Chile! Ultimately, in whatever conflict you choose, good triumphs over evil.

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 32 Chicureo
    “CHILE 2015 Copa America Champions 2nd place: Argentina”

    Argies lose again!

    It's not their fault though! Ha, ha, ha.

    Well done Chile.

    ;o)

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @12. Perhaps he should bear in mind what might have happened to him had he supported nazi Germany during WW2. Oswald Mosley and his British Union of Fascists were interned.
    @15. Seems it depends on who's doing the implanting. As the years have shown, the spanish have always been short of brain.
    @21. Why would anybody BRITISH be jealous of betts. Probably be best if he doesn't fall into the hands of BRITISH authorities. He has now, undoubtedly, committed treason. Doesn't matter where he was or what nationality he thought he had. Look up who can commit treason and under what circumstances. Under English & Welsh law, Betts is already guilty. Who would be jealous of a criminal. At least he can thank his stars that England has abolished the death penalty. Unless the UK was at war. With argieland, for instance.
    @31. Shall we give Pablo a hint? From time to time, the EU grants money to the Falkland Islands. It is possible that there may be money from Britain in such grants. Look at this; http://en.mercopress.com/2015/03/02/falkland-islands-included-in-european-funds-for-environmental-projects
    Is it true that the Falklands share of the grant will be used to plant minefields in an attempt to exterminate a well-known South Atlantic pest?

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    CHILE

    Thanks all, 4-1 penalties...
    The Argentine players were crying on the field last night.

    _______________________________
    Outstanding videos of the Falkland Islands
    http://51degreessouth.com
    For those who have never seen it, you will be impressed.

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    Seems Paulie ran away, maybe he can claim one of these “military pensions” too. Shame, I think he adds levity.
    Well done Chile, there was cheering here.
    And Falklands beat the RG Rio Grande ice hockey team as well!
    It's all good.

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    PeDofilo and golfcronie and isleter1 neurone and the rest of the ignoramuses of this 4th class site:

    READ AND LEARN,
    bunch of ignoramuses.
    and it is written by a real british taxpayer.
    not like you, british wannabes and parasites.

    “Las Malvinas or the Falkland Islands? The Ugly Face of British Imperialism and Its Startling Cost”
    See more at:

    http://newsjunkiepost.com/2013/01/05/las-malvinas-or-the-falkland-islands-the-ugly-face-of-british-imperialism-and-its-startling-cost/#sthash.gg7uuJLk.dpuf

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Pity that Sanchez missed that last chance. But what a great result in the Copa, the best team won when the losers just lost it completely. The pitch needed a good watering and the Argies obliged with floods of tears! :-))) Appears they cant win anything. World Cup - lost, Copa - lost, and pleeease dont mention the Olympics!

    Well done Chile , congratulations!

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    benny-hillbillies talking about football?
    since when?
    what the fuck can they know?

    argentina won that tournament 14 (FOURTEEN) times
    chilotelandia just 1 (ONE).
    and it was, by chance, when they organized it.
    that´s why the whole bunch of useless refs played for them.
    otherwise it is impossible to understand why the fuck they did not award argentina with that penalty against rojo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQhOaybWH7o

    dirty chilotes

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    @43: And the ice hockey, Paulie? And the £36m from the British tax payers? You still haven't listed all the money that the Falkland Islands get from the UK.
    Come on, dickhead. Get with it!

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alberto Bertorelli

    Hey Pauly idiota. You cry justa lika youra players... 4 -1, Boo Hoo Hoo!

    Chile isa the besta! But Argentina still have the besta cheats! Hahaha

    English Premier leagua - best in whole world! Most money , besta players - even include some Argies! No money in SA.

    What a mistaka to maka!

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    41 paulcedron II
    Now there's a credible source, the name says it all News Junkie Post, junk: old or discarded articles that are considered useless or of little value; worthless writing,

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Whatever.com

    @43

    Wow, an Argentinian accusing people of cheating. Argentina, the country that idolises a drug addled, corrupt, hand-balling scumbag like Diego Maradona.

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Losing a World Cup to the Germans in xtra time is one thing, however losing a Copa America to those wonderful Chileanos.

    Who sing such endearing songs about the “gaiety” of the Argys and how they “lose their Islands” coz they are “simple minded”.

    Well, that has just got to hurt.

    It could have been worse though, if they had lost to the England women’s team for example.

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Argies? What have Argies to be gay about?

    Lost the Falklands?

    Lost to Chile?

    Loosers :-)

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    Come on, Paulie! Where are you? We need answers from the great RG oracle.
    £36m in foreign aid.
    Ice hockey.
    Falkland Islands receive how much from Great Britain.
    Come on!

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    50 PeDo

    read what a sensitive, intelligent british journo says, and shut the f*ck up.

    “UPDATE

    On Sunday and Monday March 10-11, 2013 a vote takes place asking the Falkland Islanders if they want the UK taxpayer to continue forking out almost £100,000 per annum for every family living on these desolate isles, when at home we have a massive unemployment problem and other important underfunded issues. No doubt the answer will be “Yes”, and this is understandable from the point of view of those who live there. When free gifts of such ample proportions are offered without ties, except a declaration of loyalty to the crown, it is a no-brainer. This funding, and much more has been going on for over 30 years.”

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    March 10-11, 2013 a vote takes place asking the Falkland Islanders if they want the UK taxpayer to continue forking out almost £100,000 per annum for every family living on these desolate isles

    Another deluded dream vote, where do you get these ideas from,
    oh I know its written on your auto cue card,

    and you later state--[[when at home we have a massive unemployment problem and other important underfunded issues,,

    and who's fault is this, CFKs is it not, if you fools spend as much time and expense on your own country, instead of wasting millions on a deluded dream of an empire, you would not be in this mess, ,,would you..

    so do us all a favour, and re-educate yourself with the truth..

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Potty Paul, where is this massive unemployment problem? Ours locally is about 2%, it only in sink areas that its higher, places where there are scroungers. So, no probs.
    And , what we spend on ALL our islands, the Hebrides, Ascension, St Helena, Pitcairn, the Falklands we spend willingly. If the Falklands didnt have a beligerent untrustworthy basket case of thieves as a neighbour we wouldnt need to spend anything at all. The Falklands is an ideal place to train our troops, airmen and neighbours anyway , so we are quite happy with that. As soon as the oil gushes the cost of the military will easily be covered.

    Please continue whingeing and crying like babies.

    Viva Chile 4-1!

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    I think Mr Betts may have skin cancer. He should get that mole checked out as quickly as possible.

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Paulie- We are still waiting for the FACTS and FIGURES - not just what you read some journalist wrote in a paper hardly anybody reads!

    As I have pointed out to you and MANY MANY others have stated- including British Politicians and Military Advisors - There would be NO savings of £100 million to the British taxpayer if the Br Forces were not here - because they would just be based back in UK-Europe etc.
    I estimate- and I know as I am involved in this area- About £500,000 a year is what comes into the Falklands economy from the prescence of the Br Forces. No that is £500 per family if you want to put it that way!!
    Oh and by the way We Islanders PAY the British Min of Defence £3 million a year in flight tickets towards the cost of their airlink.
    WE Islanders also contribute approx. £75 million a year to the British economy in goods exported from the UK to the Islands. Also we contribute about £5 million a year into the British wages economy from the hire and employment of people from UK - who bank a lot of that money in UK and spend it on their house mortgages etc etc.

    So come on then WHERE are your FACTS?

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 54 Englander

    An employee of mine had something like that on his forehead and we all begged him to go and have it checked: it took us over three months to get him to do it.

    Very sadly he was already too late, it was as deeply embedded INTO his skin as it stood proud of his skin.

    He lasted two years, terrible pity. He did so enjoy his walks in the summer which it was thought was the starter.

    That was in 1992, perhaps things have improved since then, but probably not as he will be treated by an argie.

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    @51: Nope, that didn't do it. We need facts. HM Armed Forces use the facility at MPA as a training establishment. It is one of the only places they can fly as low as they do and train using live ammunition. Not only that, FIG actually subsidises their being here.
    You still haven't answered any of our questions.
    The British Government sends £36m in foreign aid to RGland every year.
    Give us an itemised list of what money is given to the Falkland Islands by the same government.
    Resorting to facile insults won't change a thing. The facts stand for themselves; you are a dick.

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Poor Paul. Unemployed and broke but just accepts that his governments spends MORE on people who never fought in the Falklands than the UK spends there.

    MORE!!!!!!!

    US$108 million that isn't going to you or your family Paul but to people like Alex Betts.

    Again, Argentina spends MORE on pensions to non-combatants from 32 years ago than the UK does NOW!!!

    MORE!

    I know as a Peronist you are told not to criticise or examine your government so just in case you missed it..... MORE.

    And your country is so more. But it spends MORE.

    The UK budget is 2-3 times your entire country's GDP but you spend MORE on subsidies to losers that didn't do anything.

    MORE!

    Now please continue with your inadequate and extremely limited insults. They really hurt.... ouch?

    Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    MORE!

    Jul 05th, 2015 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    54 englander
    “I think Mr Betts may have skin cancer. He should get that mole checked out as quickly as possible”

    luckily he does not live in the islets anymore, no?
    what the fuck can you do if you have cancer and you live in the islets?
    what kind of assistance can you get there?
    how many recognized oncologists do you have there??
    eh???

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Paulie- We are still waiting for the cost FACTS from you???? You know - the British Taxpayer Subsidies to us Islanders that you told us about - What are they?

    Its no good going off on a diversion about skin cancer!! Actually we get good cancer treatment 100% FREE here. You get send to top cancer Oncologists in Chile or the UK If urgent you can be seeing one within about 6 hrs of you going to see a doctor here.

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    59
    Surprised he hasn't had it removed.
    Is health care expensive in Argentina or is there an NHS equivalent?

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 04:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    Paulie, come on. I'm really surprised that a guy with as much political savvy as you (not to mention your profound knowledge of the Falkland Islands and our way of life), is unable to answer the simple question of how much money, aid if you will, the Islands receive from the public purse of Great Britain. Is it as much as RGland gets in aid from Britain? Considering your country is such a political big hitter, it amazes me that you actually need it. And when you have such a massive downer on the British I am surprised you haven't started some kind of mission to stop receiving aid from a bunch of pirates! I know we have. Every year we petition the UK government to stop sending you money. (When I say “we”, I'm talking about the Great British public and we Islanders).
    So please, do tell, what do the Falkland Islands receive in aid from the UK?
    It's not that hard. Even you can find that out. :-)

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    PeDo
    again with that?
    cant you understand your first language?

    ”...the Falkland Islanders if they want the UK taxpayer to continue forking out almost £100,000 per annum for every family living on these desolate isles, ...

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @43
    “why the fuck they did not award argentina with that penalty against rojo.”

    And Rojo plays club football in Argentina or the UK?

    @32 Chicureo

    Congratulations Chile

    @63

    Ignoramus-if the defence money wasn't spent in the Falklands, it would still be spent on the military somewhere else.

    You will find the British taxpayer is more concerned about benefits paid out to people who come here from Europe, than the costs of defending the Islanders from a bunch of batshit crazy fascists. Remember idiota, the forces are an employer so Brits are getting jobs out of the military money.

    As Betts now took part in the 1982 war, perhaps he possesses the tactical knowledge to lead another invasion of the Falklands.

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    64 imbécil
    “Ignoramus-if the defence money wasn't spent in the Falklands, it would still be spent on the military somewhere else.”

    where for example, you imbecile?
    in another colony?
    in another illegally occupied land?

    the best the useless british government can do with that money, is to buy proper food to the millions of people who eat that shite from the food-banks.

    and to repeal the bedroom tax.

    it is one of the most retrograde societies on earth.

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @65 paulcedron II
    So why are there thousands of migrants at Calais, tens of thousands across Europe, all trying to get into the UK, eh?

    All wanabe Retrograded, do they?

    Yet the problem in Argentina is one of people leaving, i.e. anyone with any money, skills, expertise or plain common sense.

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Whatever.com

    @65

    It's a moot point Paul, The UK government undertakes to defend us from the colonial ambitions of Argentina. The cost of this is the UK government's business, not yours.
    As far as you, an Argentinian, spouting off about how the UK should organise it's economy one can only laugh....an Argentinian trying to make out they know to run a national economy? what a joke.

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    66 and 67
    you both are not very bright, uhh?

    argentina is an economic disaster.
    and yet hundreds of thousands of bolivians, peruvians, paraguayans and chilotes emigrate every month en-masse here.
    it does not mean a shite.

    now, try to use that little brain of yours and try to extrapolate it to the uk case.
    it is the same, you nabos.

    a good number of argentinians have emigrated to europe, most of all france, spain and italy, in the last years.

    and millions of englanders have emigrated to spain, france and italy too.

    so, the uk receives hundreds of thousands of african, bulgarian, pakistani, etc. immigrants while expels hundreds of thousands of britons.

    same shite, different smell, you brainwashed isleteers.

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Whatever.com

    Yes that's right, people emigrate...so what?
    I was pointing out that you, Paul, are in no position to expect anyone to take seriously your rantings about the UK government's economic decisions and the use of their armed forces. Your concern about the UK taxpayers is rather touching but hardly relevant. The UK is NOT going to stop protecting the Falklands from Argentine imperialism, better get used to it.

    BTW did you hear the good news from yesterday:
    http://thehockeyhouse.net/international-hockey/falkland-islands-win-copa-invernada-in-ice-hockey-tournament-debut/

    Not bad eh? Falkland Islands kicked your arse.

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @68 paulcedron II
    No Paulito, you have got it wrong again, Brits RETIRE to France, Spain, Portugal and Italy.

    Living in the prosperous half of Europe, we have the money to do so.

    In fact, I was thinking about buying an Island or two in the Aegean myself.

    I heard that a lot of them are going to be coming on the market reaallll cheap, very soon.

    I also hear that you have a real problem with drugs cartels re-locating to Argentina these days.

    Probably explains the “en-masse” you’re talking about.

    By the way, Chile beat Argentina on penalties 4-1, winning the Copa América.

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    pugol en contra
    “Brits RETIRE to France, Spain, Portugal and Italy.”

    retire??
    an yet they are a burden for the taxpayer of those countries.
    not to mention the huge, huge quantity of britons that go to France, Spain, Portugal and Italy to commit crimes.
    as i have said many times, the most important exportation of the uk are criminals.

    “Revealed: Britain's 10 Most Wanted Fugitives
    Detectives are urging British holidaymakers in Spain to help find the criminals and get them extradited to the UK.”

    “REVEALED: Mugshots of 13 British criminals who have fled to Spain

    THIRTEEN British criminals hiding out in Spain have been named and shamed in an appeal released today.”

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Whatever.com

    @71

    A burden on the taxpayers? big deal. You lot with your inability to pay YOUR debts are a burden on ALL taxpayers.

    Ah yes, and just in case you missed it:
    thehockeyhouse.net/international-hockey/falkland-islands-win-copa-invernada-in-ice-hockey-tournament-debut/

    Falkland Islands kicked your asses for you.

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    Paulie:
    Why does such a rich country like RGland NEED £36m from the UK government, in foreign aid?
    AND, it has all ready been proved to you that we don't cost the UK government anything. They quote you gave was from before the referendum. It was by a disaffected journo, and not actually true. What do the Falkland Islands receive in aid from the UK? List it all.
    And so many Brits go to live out their retirement in Spain? So what? They don't receive Spanish pensions, they're not entitled to them, you cock. And as for criminals running away to Spain, where did the majority of the Nazis go at the end of the Second War?
    I understand my language perfectly well, stop prevaricating and answer the questions.
    Never once have you written about the foreign aid RGland receives. Are you so fucking stupid?

    Jul 06th, 2015 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Paulie- We know the following:

    You are Thick

    You shout first and always insert both feet in your mouth.

    You repeatedly make a complete arse of yourself.

    Come on - please prove me wrong?

    ANSWER the Question - What is all this money you alledge we Islanders receive from the UK taxpayer?

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    He won't answer because he can't………and because he is a stupid troll.
    Not even a good troll, or even a believable troll.
    l'd say he even failed troll class.
    What a ………

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    74 isleteer 1 neurone
    read and learn, you thicko.
    these articles are written by real british taxpayers.
    guess they have more credibility than a parasite from the islets, no?

    The Falklanders Have the Right to be Stupid
    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/03/the-falklanders-have-the-right-to-be-stupid/

    Las Malvinas or the Falkland Islands? The Ugly Face of British Imperialism and Its Startling Cost - See more at: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/03/the-falklanders-have-the-right-to-be-stupid/

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    76 paulcedron II
    I read one of those articles. I quote:

    ''I am obliged to say that, in international law, Argentina’s claim to the Falkland Islands is a nonsense. The Argentinians are not the indigenous inhabitants of the islands, nor does the Argentine government represent the indigenous population of the Falklands. The large majority of Argentinians are not even the indigenous population of Argentina. They are simply a rival bunch of colonialists, very many of British descent.''

    I suggest you read articles yourself before you post links.
    Toodlepip,
    M

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Paulie-76.
    You really do insist on being a thicko!!
    One article you had already posted earlier.
    The other makes the point Mony shows.
    #
    Both refer only to the defence Costs - Which I and others - and even the British Govt, Min of Defence and others have all made very public - this figure would hardly change at all even if there were no Falklands - as these forces would just be stationed somewhere else and training and excercising somewhere else.

    Come on silly Arse- We are all askin g you to come up with REAL FACTS to back up your claims of all these UK taxpayer subsidies we are supposed to be receiving.

    Come on LIST THEM - or give up silly boy.

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @71 paulcedron II
    “huge, huge quantity of Britons”

    “THIRTEEN British criminals”

    You seem to have some issues with perspective there Paulito.

    Or is your ability to count so limited that to you, 13 is a “huge” number?

    Lose count of how many Goals Chile scored in the Copa America final did you, well it was more than Argentina’s 1 goal, after that it probably becomes a bit of a stretch for you.

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    @76: Paulie: I'll make it easier for your over-taxed brain......
    Are you going to hand the £36m back to the British tax-payer, that is sent by the UK government to RGland, every year as Foreign Aid for educational purposes?

    There you go. One question, answer it.

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Poor little Paulie- all he can do is make wild accusations and then flail around arse up trying to produce years old comments by minor (and somewhat inaccurate) reporters.

    Anything like Truth and Facts and Reality are all way beyond his poor little neurone!

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Over to you, pauli-bobo.

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    82 isolda-boba
    what happens isolda?
    you told me that you were NOT going to talk to me anymore and blablabla.
    and here you are...
    you are obsessed with me, no doubts.

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #83

    Typical Argentine mentality...
    ...you deride Chilean sports accomplishments, then we kick your ass and you pretend it never happened. Same damn thing about the Falklands... You are a disgrace to Latin America.

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    What's up Pauli? Yo still haven't answered the question. I'm losing faith in you.
    £36m, petition your government to give it back to the “pirate” government of the UK.
    You know it makes sense!! :-)

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    85 PeDo
    tell that to kirchner.
    probably she spent the 36m in jewels.
    none of my business.

    84 chilote
    you and your football team, players and all that shite, including that imbecile sampaoli who i hope they expel from argentina for ever, are a shame for the human race, you dirty chilote you.

    not only you are the permanent losers (argentina won this tournament 14 times and defeated chilotelandia 53 times) but also you are the dirtiest cheaters on earth.

    the whole bunch of refs played for chilotelandia, marcos rojo deserved a clear penalty, but what can you expect when the tournament is organized by chilotelandia, eh?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIDzILvfFb4

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    Paulie, your words:-

    1. “an yet they are a burden for the taxpayer of those countries.”
    “guess they have more credibility than a parasite”
    2. “the best the useless british government can do with that money, is to buy proper food to the millions of people who eat that shite from the food-banks.”
    3. “you should ask the honest, impoverished british taxpayer how much they spend to support you all.”

    Parasite? Phrase 2 stands for itself. Phrase 3? Your words, I remind you. Calling me names won't work. Saying that I take money from the British government/tax-payer? I paid a lot of tax in the UK and never once went to a foodbank, neither did I ever claim unemployment benefit, I've never been unemployed or sponged off the government.
    A small point and take it for what it's worth. The only reason the military are here in any force is because of the neighbours, before 1982 (just before you shot UN Resolution 2065 out of the water) there were only 32 members of the Royal Marines here.
    You are the reason the British government spends money in maintaining a presence here. If you learnt to behave like a proper democratic country instead of the two-bit semi-dictatorship that you are, things might be a bit different.
    The fact remains that Alex Betts doesn't deserve a military pension any more than I deserve a Spanish pension. He was a coward, a bigamist and a dupe of the junta. He continues to be a dupe of your government and a disgrace to humanity. I feel sorry for your veterans who have to put up with this kind of idiocy. I really do.

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Whatever.com

    @ 86

    Soooo bitter Paul, you really should lighten up, maybe check out something Argentina is doing well at like ice hockey.......oh, perhaps not.

    :-p

    Jul 07th, 2015 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Paulie - we are still waiting for the FACTS of all these Br taxes we get?

    Jul 08th, 2015 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @89
    HELL will freeze before you get a sensible answer from dear Paul, a typical Argie, I know them well.

    Jul 08th, 2015 - 04:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    Betts is due a military medal under the guise of 'I wanted to fight, but didn't, but the intention was there'- like that Uruguayan geezer who got a medal because 'If he hadn't been in the clink, he would have fought for Argentina.'

    Jul 08th, 2015 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    The UK will be returning the Malvinas within the next 25 years.

    Jul 09th, 2015 - 02:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    92 Hepatia
    You will continue to suffer from Delusional disorder as long as you fail to take your meds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder
    How long have you had these delusions that you have the power of prophesy? You must have a huge need to compensate, for your feelings of inadequacy, to have such unrealistic fantasies.

    Jul 09th, 2015 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @92 Hepatia,
    ls that the best that you can do? ha ha ha.
    Not even worth a reply.

    Jul 09th, 2015 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @92
    Argentina will belong to China within 15 years.

    Congratulations.

    Jul 09th, 2015 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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