The Falkland Islands government reacted strongly to statements by the Argentine official in charge of Malvinas affairs who claimed that the theft of squid and other valuable fish stocks in the South Atlantic, was the reason behind the success of the Islands' economy, according to a report from the Express.co.uk. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesHey Marcos - how is fishing on your side of the line? Pretty well overfished and fu***d from what we hear?
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0On our side we carefully control and monitor stocks - and open or shut the fishing season accordingly.
Oh yes - we also arrest any Falklands licensed boats that we catch(by satelite) that sneak over into your side and fish illegally. You wont speak to us at all - so we take the fish of them and sell it for ourselves! You speak and talk fisheries with us and we would let you have it back - or the value!
@1 Islander
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good jab in the ribs to Marcos the slack-jawed mouth breather!
I'm sure you are confusing him though, as he doesn't live in Argentina any more than Dani Burger does.
:-)
Can't believe it has took me this long to reset my password!!!!
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can't believe Think and his alter egos,Nostrils et al, and all the other one-dimensional malvinistas have been sooooooooooooooo boring as to not be worth a reply since my last post.
anyway
In effect Daniel Filmus said a rise in GDP of the Falklands of 11%t in the last year was down to 'the theft of sea life' by trawlers operating nearby. “
I await southern European countries blaming the collapse of the Euro on African countries being 'nearby'...THAT IS, ABOUT 250 MILES AWAY!!!!!! (Argentina to The Falklands)
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Maybe the people of Malta could blame Tripoli? Or the people of Faro could blame Casablanca? Or the people of Alcudia could blame Algiers? Or the people of Limassol could blame Aleppo?
That is the issue with these Latin land grabbers that made a move on South America south of the river plate. Their theft was of such a large extent, that they have no concept of scale with relation to the rest of the world,
1 Islander1
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0On our side we carefully control and monitor stocks - and open or shut the fishing season accordingly
Of course Mr. Islander..
http://www.falklands.net/FalklandsCorruption.shtml
@4 Marquitos Alejandrito
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 05:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Again you show your lack of maturity by bringing up a matter which has been discussed so many times here. It happened so many years ago it is no longer relevant. Boludo!
”and bearing in mind the interests of the inhabitants“.
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 06:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Someone in FIG should ask Argentina what they consider the interests of the Islanders to be as their interpretation appears to be the 'shutting the door after the horse has bolted' scenario=Aerolineas flights and free education at Argentine Universities.
That's like telling people who have worked their butts off and become bank managers that they have to become toilet cleaners.
No concept of aspiration in Argentina, as since the 1940s they have gone backwards and expect the Falkland Islanders to be happy going backwards too, because Argentina has.
What the quoted statement really means is actually means is 'the interests of Argentina'.
Argentina never consider anyone else's interests.
@4 Marcos - the nose picker
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos is like that guy at a party - laughing along with others, but with a befuddled look on his face.
Desperate to be part of the group,
hey fellas... hey... hey... I've got one for ya... !
er... yeah, that's what Harry was talking about five minutes ago... of course, it was funnier the way he told it.
oh
Argentina does like to shout about long-dead Resolutions that they think favour them, but then ignores up-to-date Resolutions that clearly dismiss their claims. For example, UN GA resolution 68/98 of 2014 states
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0“.. the right of the peoples of the Non-Self-Governing Territories to self-determination in conformity with the Charter of the United Nations and with General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV), containing the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples, as well as their right to the enjoyment of their natural resources and their right to dispose of those resources in their best interest; ..”
@8
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0You forgot the 502 resolution. And so does Argentina.
This attempt by Argentina is so pathetic that it's actually very funny.
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do remember a few years ago when the muppet of an Argentine government tried to SELL licences so fishermen/companies could fish in the Falklands waters and they got NO TAKERS! None! ZIP! NADA!
I think that speaks volumes as to which licences are considered legal and which aren't by the fishermen and fishing companies.
But it's nice that Fimus has finally admitted that the Falklands are doing better than Argentina and that their GDP is far higher than Argentina's.
4 Marcos Alejandro (#)
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Until 2005, there was bilateral fisheries co-operation between Argentina and the Falkland Islands, which facilitated research, exchanged data and stock management.
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“Argentina unilaterally withdrew from that agreement to the detriment of both Falklands and Argentine fisheries.”
So Marcos, Argentina unilaterally withdrew from the agreement, some 10 year later it is now blaming the Falklands. Just how is that the Falkland Islanders fault.
Also, given the Argentinian Military have made it public the only thing stopping then from re-invading is the UK military presence.
How does that compare with DF saying:
”Argentina is committed to settling the sovereignty dispute by peaceful means, in accordance with the principles of International Law, and bearing in mind the interests of the inhabitants“.
I challenge to to answer these.
@11 zathras,
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0He won't answer because he can't.
Not without lying anyway.
The Argentines know that they are in the wrong & know that they have no case but are just hoping that we'll weaken & cave in to their demands!
Fat chance.
Poor little chappie marcos-
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes that is why our Fisheries Zone is recognised Internationally as one of the best managed in the world.
Its a shame your side is such a shambles. I remember the days before your side got pathetic and stormed out of the joint agreement in a little huff - those days your patrol vessels had the right of hot pursuit into our area to catch boats who were fishing illegally on your side- yes that was the level of friendly and sensible co-operation we had. Also joint research cruises to monitor stock levels used to happen.
You threw all that and more out of your little pram and window in a childish huff - and you are still in that childish huff!
Poor little people.
Filmus is a pretty pathetic individual who has added nothing to the political dynamic in the SWA - except a lot of noise and domestic cheer leading.
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0The reality as Mrs Rendell says is that Argentina has opted to take a totally irresponsible line on fisheries management in the SWA, preferring to see terminal depredation of certain species to try to hurt the Falkland Islanders, rather than helping to preserve and manage the ecosystem.
The man is a lightweight, directed by people who's prejudices prevent them from seeing beyond next week (or the election).
It's that time of the year again folks.
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can imagine 'Filmus now before I burst into tears' dutifully ticking off the bullet points his boss Gollum (soon to be dead and not in the fires of Mawdor) gave him with the comment 'use this annual bullet point list to ensure the Malvinas are returned, nobody will notice it's the same old tripe as the last 10 years'.
You can see it's working, NOT.
Ha, ha, ha.
Like the Oil Co's, why not get some banana Judge to make charges against FIG? Then put out international arrest warrants for those FIG criminals sanctioning this illegal fishing. This would also put an end to FIG representatives traveling the world and embarrassing KFC and her minions at every opportunity.
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Republic of Argentina: a constant, whining impotent victim to an island of 2o00 souls. Embarrassing.
I'm afraid I don't understand why the Falkland Islands Government is so polite. I hope there's enough room for my re-write.
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr Filmus said “The illegal government of the Malvinas has sold licenses - approximately 206 licenses - to operate around the Malvinas and allows them steal the catch of illex argentinus and other valuable fish stocks.” To be read as Our government is so illegal that it appears before the biased and bought UN every year. Is he expecting the fish to know where he's drawing the borders this week?
the minister's portrayal of the fisheries industry “skewed”. To be read as this prat's portrayal consists of lies.
Until 2005, there was bilateral fisheries co-operation between Argentina and the Falkland Islands, which facilitated research, exchanged data and stock management. And add then that argie prick Nestor whatshisname tore up the agreement.
”On the contrary, the UK keeps on announcing increases in the military budget in the Malvinas islands, despite Latin America and Africa's rejection of militarisation in the South Atlantic“. The UK has not increased the military budget in the Falkland Islands since 1986. No doubt Filmus will be explaining why his government” has been running around the world trying to buy modern combat aircraft. Which latam country is it expecting to be attacked by?
@17 Conqueror
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No doubt Filmus will be explaining why his ”government” has been running around the world trying to buy modern combat aircraft. Which latam country is it expecting to be attacked by?
To be specific Argentina has been trying to by bombers which are offensive weapons platforms not defensive so your question should be Which latam country is Argentina planning on attacking?
They won't attack the Falklands as they haven't got the balls, but I wouldn't put it past them to try and create a 'fake' incident and attack a neighbouring country, most likely Uruguay.
first things first:
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Phyl Rendell, an elected member of the Legislative Assembly
lol
is this a joke or wot??
that woman has less entity than the presidente of my beloved club newman.
and that assembly has less entity than an asamblea de socios.
it represents 2000 bennys, ie, nothing.
second
“It represents yet another example of efforts to damage the Falklands economy
what economy (lol)?
a toy society has not economy.
just a bunch of transactions, that´s it.
third
”The Falkland Islands have a long history of responsible environmental stewardship, and we pride ourselves on protecting and safeguarding our unique environment and the natural resources therein“
MEIN GOTT
this woman is either another retard or another liar
so killing 5 million penguins is protecting the environment for this retarded woman?
http://www.falklands.net/FalklandsCorruption.shtml
and taking in account that the responsibles of the exploitation of that oil well are two tiny little british companies, and that the british oil companies are known for committing the worst environmental disasters, it seems to me that they dont give a shite for environment.
the best this woman can do is to shut the fuck up.
paulcedron II, POOR POOR YOU No world cup,No Copa cup No Oil ,NOW NO FOOOOKING FISH.
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should contact Crissy kirchner and see if she will rent you a room in one of her empty hotels so you can chill and get over all this negative news??
Ms Rendell clearly knows that cooperation was BILATERAL between Argentina and UK, never with the islands. Everything is biased. Stop lying though we know Mercopress will distort facts and truths in her favour. Don't you wonder why???
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alejomartinez,Are you sure your not living in North Korea???/
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21. And Nestor K tore up agreements and fled a meeting with the Falkland Islands Government because.......? Surely you understand that the argie government, your masters, lie about everything. No-one would believe or trust argieland unless a considerable percentage of argies had to walk around with a remote-controlled nuclear device strapped between their legs. Although it's doubtful if Timerman has anything to be blown off. And Kirchner is just a big hole anyway. Perhaps they could both help the entire world by achieving escape velocity!
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pablo and Alejo
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How's that economy doing?
40% Inflation
28.7 % population living in poverty
Plummeting Peso - now worth less than $15 USD
Rising unemployment
Rampant crime - express kidnappings and home invasions
Football losers to Europe!!
Have a nice day
Ha ha ha....
Troy, and you havent even mentioned corruption, assasination, and the painful experiences of listening to long speeches from some old harpy!
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle..
@21
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes it was a bilateral agreement between the UK and Argentina. I am sure you will understand that the UK having the sovereignty of the FALKLANDS gave the administration of the agreements to the FALKANDS to implement. Nevertheless it was one eyed Nestor that tore up the agreement, your loss. Anyway how do the illex know whether they Argentine or FALKLAND owned. Do you tag them? LOL
society has not economy.
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0just a bunch of transactions, that´s it.
Oh jeez Rg education at its finest.
Now then, if this twat is publicly stating that the Falkland's people are thieves,
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then one suggests the islanders publicly demand she either proves these accusations or shut up,
and remind this Argy twat that slander is an offence and issue a warrant for her arrest if she every leaves Argentina,
oh the fun , the up heavil , the laughs around the world, the frustration from Argentina trying to deny this.
We could do with some summer fun....
21 Alejo- FACTS - not your fantasy beliefs- The Fisheries meetings that took place were between:
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arg Fisheries Dept AND Falklands Fisheries Dept
From the Falklands side they were always led by our Director of Fisheries- a born islander and some of his technical staff - ie Fisheries Scientists - all employees of Falkland Islands Govt Fisheries Dept.
maybe the Br Ambassador to Argentina sat at the head of the Table as mediator or something - but it was FIG Fisheries one side and Arg Govt Fisheries the other side and they talked direct to each other.
Paulie- poor little paulie:
All arse up as usual!
Got any better proof about the reasons for a decline in penguin population at that time that the bitter remarks of a fraudster ? You really need to do better!
Penguin populations pretty healthy these days actually.
Black-browned Albatross numbers booming - due to a world class fisheries control over wildlife bycatch - the species is soon likely to move up a grade in world classification for healthy numbers.
Oil Companies -
1 since when has Noble Oil been a British Company? - idiot!
2> Name all these |British companies with a terrible record - and where?
I am talking about British Companies - not a multinational one that has mostly US shareholders, and was operating in the Gulf to US safety standards and had a piece of US equipment- maintained by US employees - that failed due to poor maintenance.
1 Falklands Assembly members have visited and been received by politicians in several Latin and Central American Countries- in Columbia a member was even invited to address one of the houses of parlkiament there!
@29 lslander1,
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're confusing the pair of cretins with the truth!
You should know that they can't handle the truth.
They have been fed lies since babyhood, the truth is foreign concept to them! lol!
@19 cedronpaul,
Shut up, burro.
You're an idiot, niño.
Gago.
isolda-naba
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0shut up isolda
i'm getting really tired of you and your sick obsessions.
go see a shrink
or the warlock of the islet.
got it???
@31 Pablo - Infanta
Jul 22nd, 2015 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha - Islander 01 @29, ripped you a new one, asked you questions you had no hope of answering intelligently, and made you look like a complete tosser and ignoramus!!
Too afraid to answer, you pushed you balls back up inside for safety, and like the real 'man' you are, you insulted a girl... !!
Did that make you feel better, you cowardly wimp??
Yep, we're laughing at you.
:-D
I would imagine ,to an outsider ,one of the most important aspect of this debate is the difference in vocabulary and subsequent bearing.
Jul 23rd, 2015 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Read again what Phyl Rendell has said .Despite this paper describing it as brusk (Did they mean brusque ?)It's eloquent ,erudite ,articulate and non confrontational this is what civilised people expect from their Elected Members and is symptomatic of a stable and mature democracy.
Now read Filmus.He uses words like theft describes a legitimately elected government as illegal and adopts a belligerent stance against an Island which constitutes no economic ,commercial or political threat . It is insulting,bellicose and belongs in the political dustbin .
Reading through this story I'm reminded of that classic example of the old political adage The Government you elect,Is the Government you deserve.
@31 cedron-dimwit-pauli,
Jul 23rd, 2015 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We're ALL getting tired of you & your foul mouth.
You are an infantile nong.
So for all our sakes, just shut it---got it?
Gago.
Agreed.
Jul 23rd, 2015 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Caledon @ 33
Jul 24th, 2015 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Filmus is no more bellicose than most other Argentines.
US President Theodore Roosevelt said, Speak softly and carry a big stick. Argentina hasn't got a big stick, so Filmus screams. And screams. And screams. It's his job, you see. Better Filmus than Galtieri.
@31
Jul 26th, 2015 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0shut up isolda
Please don't Isolda. I want to hear more about Argentina returning Santa Cruz to the Falklands, and any other areas of Patagonia that Falkland Islanders settled.
And it would be nice to hear from you Paul in telling us more about bits of Patagonia first settled by Brits/Falkland Islanders and stolen by Argentine pirates.
After you've had a session in your CT scanner of course....
my dear isolda-naba
Jul 26th, 2015 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but what do you mean with gago, my dear, but not too bright, isolda?
fernando gago?
the great argentine midfielder?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Gago
well, i play very, very well, but not as well as him.
thanks for the comparison anyway.
Gago = ldiot or Dickhead in Tagalog language.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very bad insult in Philippines.
A lot worse meaning in Tagalog than is ldiot in English.
Been known to cause knife fights & killings.
But it suits you.
lf Fernando Gago played in the Philippines, the crowd would love him!
but my beloved isolda...
Jul 27th, 2015 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0who the fuck cares about tagalog (????) language, eh?????????????
and who the fuck cares about the philippines>????
bet those uneducated filipinos called you gaga many times, no???
Argentina can do their best to belittle and isolate the Falklanders, but they cant kill their spirit and their will to succeeed.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 05:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands Ice Hockey Team recently won a 2015 South American tournament in Chile, despite never skating on ice before.
They handily knocked Argentina out of the running!!
http://www.falklandislandsdekhockey.com/ice-hockey/
My hockey jersey is on order. I've asked that Tempest be written on the back!
@40 pc gago,
Jul 27th, 2015 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Been called lots of things.
Things that you will never understand, gago.
42
Jul 27th, 2015 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0isolda gaga
mon dieu isolda...
you should stop going to those seedy bars with knife fights & killings, where those animals call you lots of things.
and you should stop drinking vodka too.
sad, sad, sad.
Paulie- I see that you were of course unable to answer my questions at 29?
Jul 27th, 2015 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0sad sad sad = Paulie!
@43 paulcedron,
Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With your attitude you wouldn't last for 5 minutes in some of the places that l've been.
But you are all an act.
Monty is correct, you are Think, along with Voice & no doubt others.
Many eons ago, l mentioned to Herr Think that l enjoyed a vodka or three.
Don't remember telling you though & it was long before the tangang tanga known as paulcedron appeared.
You could know by trawling back through my old posts, but that would make you a stalker, wouldn't it, Think, er pauli-bum.
Haven't you got anything else to do, Think-gago?
my lovely isolda.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the thing is that you mentioned many times that you enjoy the vodka.
the more, the better
and the thing is that you do not remember.
i blame the vodka
45 Isolde
Jul 28th, 2015 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure you're correct.
An easy alter-ego for lazy think - no trying to piece together arguments - very little invested in a low-maintenance persona.
I think this is where all of Paul's pretentions come from - the vintage airplane, the vintage motorcycle, the polo playing of the elite- all Think phantasms and wishful thinking.
Yawn... sure, Think
@41 Troy
Jul 31st, 2015 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands Ice Hockey Team recently won a 2015 South American tournament in Chile, despite never skating on ice before.
That is amazing! But shows the direction of the Falkland Islands generally, not a failed nation but one on the up.
If Corbyn starts kicking off, I'm going to write to him reminding him, that the Falkland Islands Government provides most of the services through the state that in the UK are owned privately or by foreign firms.
It is ironic that the Falklands stopped being run by overseas companies and nationalised everything at the time that the UK went in the opposite direction.
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