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Falklands/Malvinas: Argentina asks why UK is not punished for not complying with UN
Argentine diplomats questioned in Montevideo why the United Kingdom is not punished for its denial to comply with the UN General Assembly Resolution from 1965 which calls on Argentina and the UK to sit and dialogue on the Falklands/Malvinas dispute. They also denied any attempts from Argentina to suffocate the Falklands economy or hydrocarbons industry. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMr Filmus. The UK is not breaking any UN resolutions. The UN Secretary General Mr Ban Ki-Moon has already stated that.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Resolution 2065 is no longer a relevant resolution BECAUSE Argentina BROKE it in 1982. It is INVALID, VOID, ILLEGITIMATE.
But even if it wasn't the UK is still to this day keeping to the spirit of this resolution by involving, and taking into account the wishes of the people who are affected most....namely the Falkland Islanders.
The UK is also willing to talk but it is Argentina that continually and PUBLICLY refuses to do so.
So it is Argentina that not only BROKE resolution 2065, but continues to break it every day.
And remember Mr Filmus the UN is a toothless tiger, a talking shop for impotent countries, such as Argentina, to vent their spleen. Only the Security Council has teeth, and those teeth are generally made up of UK, US and French troops.
So just how do you think the toothless tiger can 'punish' the UK? UN General Assembly resolutions are NON-BINDING.
So continue to humiliate yourself, your country and your people on the world stage. EVERYONE is laughing at Argentina, the funny clown. Especially your Latam comrades.
ROLL UP! ROLL UP! COME AND SEE FILMUS, THE FUNNY CLOWN OF A MAN WHO CAN'T STOP LYING!
But I suppose Filmus has to earn his crust, and desperately distract the Argentine people from Kirchners 'won' decade and economic miracle.
And did not Argentina ignore a binding UN resolution 502 back in 1982, what is good for the goose is good for the gander, eat your hearts out. I wonder how many UN resolutions has Argentina ignored, Beagle Channel?
Jul 24th, 2015 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0UN Resolution 502 in 1982 called for the immediate withdraw of Argentine forces.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 06:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina ignored 502. A thousand people lost their lives. Argentina never apologised.
This is just typical LatAm BS waffle for domestic consumption.
Snr Filmus,
Jul 24th, 2015 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Most sensible people have been asking the same of Argentina.
But if you are genuinely interested in peace perhaps someone from your country will answer the following questions
When is Argentina going to apologise for an illegal invasion in 1982 ?
What reparations have Argentina paid to the Islanders to date s a result of the illegal invasion ?
What steps have the Argentinian Government taken to ensure its illegal claim to the Falkland Islands and other territories is removed from its constitution ?
What assurances have the Argentine Government iterated to the UN that it recognises and accepts the result of the March 2013 referendum in accordance with International law ?
Like most people on this forum ,I've become, quite frankly, disgusted by the UN behaviour over the Falkland Islands ,or rather The Argentine attitude. It seems to me that the founding principles of this supposedly august body have inexplicably either become lost in the mists of time or have become so perverted in its translation as to render those principles meaningless .
What now interests me is not the hypocrisy and duplicity of your question but the answer you receive.
I sincerely hope your question lands on the desk of some UN official who still retains some vestige of the founding principles. But ,alas, I fear my hopes my be dashed before the envelope is even opened.
Here we go, Filmus trying to pull the wool over the other SA countries eyes with lies and blatant falsifications. Or is is he is so stupid that he doesn't know the difference between binding and non binding resolutions, or SC resolutions and C24 resolutions
Jul 24th, 2015 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0It could be though that they are sowing the seeds for 'punishment' at a lower level, trying to get SA to impose sanctions because the UN cannot/will not as they actually know the facts and not some BS made up by thieving governments trying to divert attention away from their own failings.
“How can it be that the UK refuses to comply with the United Nations”
Jul 24th, 2015 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0We don't. Britain has offered negotiations on the Falklands in the past. Argentina's representative backed out when they found out some of the legitimate inhabitants of the Falklands would be there to represent their interests.
It cannot be disputed that it is Argentina that refuses to negotiate in good faith, or to find a fair and definitve solution.
“We are not intent in isolating or suffocating economically the Malvinas Islands...“
Your actions tell a different story.
”but simply want to exercise our rights, and our rights are sovereignty over the Islands”
No they are not. You have no factual claim over the Falklands, and have no right to any sovereignty. All of your claims are based on the Malvinas Lie:
You have lied about your attempt at usurpation in 1833 and the subsequent British recovery of the Islands.
You told lies about the civilian population being expelled instead of your unlawful military prescence.
You're still lying, even now. You must stop.
”...only the third one (Argentina's attempt to usurp the Falklands) is waiting to be resolved”.
Excellent. You now wish to resolve it instead of lying. There are two ways to resolve this that are fair for all of the involved parties:
1: Take the dispute to the *only* international body qualified to rule on sovereignty, the ICJ. Agree to abide by the rulings, and not illegally declare the decision “null and void” when you lose.
2: Argentina admits to lying for the last 100-odd years about the Falklands before the UN, and permanently removes their fake claim in all parts, including their constitution.
Those are the only two fair outcomes - what would you prefer?
Is this man utterly out of his mind? When is Argentina going to wake up and “smell the coffee”?
Jul 24th, 2015 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Evidently they're still hung up on the conquistador mentality that all of Latin America and the surrounding oceans belongs to the predominantly Italo-Iberian implanted colonial populations of the mainland.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's pretty sick also in this day and age to be attempting to stir Argentina's state-inflicted Malvinas neurosis into an ethnic conflict, but that does tend to get traction among the fuck-witted and gullible.
Apart from denying the FIs fresh fruit, Argentine Government can do nothing to advance their false claim, concerning economic sanctions applied by UN against UK as Argentina no dount would like. UK punished by EU no chance, UK punished by USA no chance, UK punished by China no chance , UK punished by Africa no chance, rest of the world apart from Latin America no chance. Regarding Latin Amierica I beileve the UK has 1 % of it total trade with. The vast majority of this 1% is with Brazil, Mexico & Chile, will these countries punish UK no chance and finally UN punish UK no chance. The only recourse Argentina has to its fake claim is War, and I assure you UK is ready not one Argentine ship or plane will getting off the starting block.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are no current UN General Assembly Resolutions which, in any case, are only advisory. The last was in 1988 and was complied with.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are these diplomats really this dumb?
#10..........Do they speak Spanish?
Jul 24th, 2015 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 010. Just just don't understand how things work in the real world.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0They're just keeping the pot-boiling, that's all- for home consumption: election fever must be spread for CFK's purposes...
Jul 24th, 2015 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Folks!
Jul 24th, 2015 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0The SA mind-set at government level is nothing other than conniving brainless idiots who will say anything to be considered to be part of the herd.
Whether they understand the UN situation correctly or not does not even come into it: it's about SOLIDARITY, or the appearance of it anyway.
Imagine the argie idiot Stevie 'Breakdowns R Us' but many times over and I think that would be an accurate representation of the situation.
Before I came to Uruguay I read that change does not appear quickly, it takes ages, years even for anything to happen and that was clearly correct.
In the case of TDC it will never take the islands off the people of the Falklands: it knows that but has to appear macho in front of all the other cowards.
Because nobody cares about Argentina's whinging, that's why.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0In the 1995 East Timor judgment, the ICJ added the right to self-determination to the list as having an erga omnes character. The ICJ stated in para 29, ‘In the Courts view, Portugal’s assertion that the right of people’s to self-determination, as it evolved from the Charter and the United Nations practice, has an erga omnes character, is irreproachable. The principle of self-determination of peoples has been recognized by the United Nations Charter and in the jurisprudence of the Court; it is one of the essential principles in contemporary international law.’
Jul 24th, 2015 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In regard to states breaching erga omnes obligations, the Institute of International Law, Krackow Session of 2005, adopted the following resolution and defined an obligation erga omnes as:
Article (I)
a) An obligation under general international law that a state owes in any given case to the international community, in view of its common valued and its common values and its concern for compliance, so that a breach of that obligation enables all states to take action;
or
An obligation under a multilateral treaty that a state party owes in any given case to all the other states parties to the same treaty, in view of the common values and concern for compliance so that a breach of that obligation enables all these states to take action.
No doubt about it, there is a mechanism for punishing Argentina for not respecting the islanders right to self-determination.
Fimus-Paulcedron and Marcos - are they all the same person in reality - as all 3 full of hotair-bullshit-fansasy, and incapable of opening moth without inserting both feet at same time.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is this a precursor to asking the whole of latam to go to war for them, will they be asking for a show of hands at the next meeting.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't French Guyana a foreign occupied territory of latam, why does that never get a mention I wonder?
http://youtu.be/1BY-Yg1S1AA
Jul 24th, 2015 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is the appopiate response to all of argentinas whining and trying to get others to join in is pathetic.
Go to the ICJ talk to the islanders or prefably do one
Argentina asks why UK is not punished for not complying with UN
Jul 24th, 2015 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0POT-KETTLE-BLACK.
No argie or other latam pillocks, I see. Nice to see another latam organisation making itself a laughing stock. Small point @6. “attempt at usurpation in 1833”. It was actually 1832.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's quite sad, actually, that argieland spends so much time, and money, running around trying to get other countries to support its attempt at imperialist colonialism. As of 1982, the Islands are indisputably British. Argieland has to know this. You fight and win a war. You keep what you possess when you've won. Let's turn it around the other way. It's 14 June 1982. Argieland has won the war. British forces surrender. Then argieland say “That was a lot of fun. Now we can go back to the way things were before the war”. Of course not. The ethnic cleansing deportations would have started the same week. The detention camps going up. With attached buildings for interrogation (torture).
@16. Another bit of international law argieland hasn't bothered to read? However, your comment includes the provision that a state party can “take action”. Does that mean we can bomb, shell and missile argieland now? Can we send most of our Typhoons, tanker aircraft, warships, submarines and auxiliary ships down there to set up orbital circuits. Typhoons can land on the Falklands to collect more bombs and missiles, refueled there and back. Warships can shell until they need more ammunition from the auxiliaries. Submarines can missile until they need more from the auxiliaries. And torpedo any argie rowing boats as well.
That would be reasonable punishment, wouldn't it? I have this idea where we leave 255 argies alive as a memorial to the 255 British servicemen that gave their lives in defence of the freedom of the Falklands.
Indeed ... What a wanker he is...!
Jul 24th, 2015 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just STUPID!!
Here's an important question. Why isn't Filmus required to produce the evidence that he's been certified before he's allowed to say anything?
Jul 24th, 2015 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina’s great delusion, that it has any kind of legitimate claim to the Falklands, goes hand in hand with Argentina’s great illusion, that the world cares a gaucho's fart for its laughable fantasy. If its claim has the slightest merit, why doesn't it go to the International Court of Justice, like the Philippines are doing with China in their dispute over islands? Argentina's president Corruptina Kirchner and her cronies won't take the legal route because they know their claim is a joke.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Filmus said it was hard to understand why the UK had not sat to dialogue with the Argentine government to address the issue, ”
Jul 24th, 2015 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hard to understand? They've been told countless times why the UK will not discuss the Falkland Islands. It's because the Argentinians insist on it being a bilateral dispute between the UK and Argentina (because that is the only way that their claim can make any sense at all), the UK do not accept that is a bilateral issue because of the existence of a third party, the Falkland islanders (who when it comes to it are the only people materially affected by the dispute).
That's why Filmus, as well you know. Not that hard to understand.
The whole world is asking why the United Nations, the World Bank, the IMF and the International Court of Justice have not punished Argentina and its vulture government for stealing billions from international investors and companies. Argentina has committed the biggest defaults in history. It is a robber state.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0England did dialogue with Argentina as soon as Argentina invades the Falklands! Have argies forgotten yet?
Jul 24th, 2015 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When will this wind bag shut up .......I will huff and puff and blow your house down ......does he not see he is an analogy of a fairy tale caracture
Jul 24th, 2015 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From a real legislature to the laughing stock of diplomacy can his career crash any further ...” I suppose you have to be thick skinned to bear face smile and lie while filling your pockets ......
These two laughing stocks don't go to the ICJ either, over the North Rock and Machias Seal Islands:
Jul 24th, 2015 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.vox.com/2015/7/24/9027475/canada-america-border-dispute
Toby, how is the burger flipping business? Learnt any new languages lately? Klingon perhaps.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”and not comply with what the UN Decolonization Committee reiterates year after year?”
Jul 24th, 2015 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because Scumfilm, the C24's job is to assist colonial peoples to gain Independence, not to assist them in being colonised by someone else.
As the C24 are not attempting to de-colonise the Falklands, the UK has NO obligation to listen to them as they are not following their remit.
It's a bit like if a UK officer orders a soldier to break the Geneva Convention, the soldier is allowed under military law to refuse to obey the order.
Another thing is that the C24 doesn't issue UN resolutions.
If the C24 put pressure on the UK to give the Islanders Independence and the UK refused (against the wishes of the Islanders) then the UK's position would be difficult.
But as the UK has not said it will prevent the Islanders having Independence, this would not be a problem.
Why would a first world country want to sit and discuss anything with a shit hole country like Argentina that as a pre determined outcome? so Argentina wants to discus but ALL discussions must end with Argentine sovereignty, ARE THESE FUCKERS FOR REAL?????.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina indulges in its chronic dementia and delusion whenever it struggles to discuss the free and independent Falklands. So the islands are Latin America’s only issue? How interesting. Many other countries would disagree very forcibly, having their own territorial headaches, such as Bolivia which has declared it will not rest till it takes land from Chile to give access to the Pacific. And has the ridiculous Filmus heard about Venezuela’s laughable claim to huge areas of Guyana? Probably not, because the Buenos Aires regime is so ignorant and uneducated and deluded. But what do you expect from a country that lies isolated and unloved at the very bottom of South America, the aresehole of Latin America, a position it so richly deserves?
Jul 24th, 2015 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33
Jul 24th, 2015 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“isolated”
How is isolating ourselves from a sh!t EUian, NorthAmoan, Ozzer, Brazzo, Japper, Chinasian, Cannarian, or whatever you are, a bad thing?
Nostril, its not, only you arent. You wouldnt even be able to visit this site if it wasnt for us. Idiota
Jul 24th, 2015 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More hot air from BsAs.
Jul 24th, 2015 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Message to Filmus:-
“No, these lslands are NOT yours & you are NOT going to get them.”
“Argentina has NO RIGHTS here, so just disappear”
lf fact you can run around in ever decreasing circles & finally disappear up your own backside in a puff of smoke.
@34 Troll,
Still running a temperature, poor lad?
Have a wee nap. You'll feel better, directly.
isolda
Jul 24th, 2015 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0do not deny the facts, my dear, dear isolda.
those islets are an integral part of:
the south american continent
the argentinian continental shelf
and the república argentina.
not by chance they are located in our splendorous mar argentino.
you lot are like foreign bodies there.
the best you can do is returning to england.
And yet in 2015 are STILL British.
Jul 25th, 2015 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0@37
Jul 25th, 2015 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Foreign bodies? Hah! that's rich coming from an Argentinian, you're of European ancestry Paul so you've got no business getting on your high horse about how 'foreign' us Falkland Islanders are.
PS. and don't try to say you're a native South American, what with the genocide your country perpetrated it's pretty unlikely that you are.
@39 Whatever.com,
Jul 25th, 2015 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0lf pauli boy can be believed, he says that his ancestors are lrish.
l don't think the lrish wanted him, so they palmed him off on Argentina. lol!
“Argentine diplomats questioned in Montevideo why the United Kingdom is not punished for its denial to comply with the UN General Assembly Resolution…”
Jul 25th, 2015 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is Argentina that should be punished for trying to bring colonialism back, for bullying and trying to delegitimise the inhabitants of a tiny neighbour and for lying and wasting the UNs time.
Filmus and the rest of the argie heroes are slowly waking up to the fact that they are being mugged by reality over their bogus claim to the Falklands – hence their increasingly desperate antics, hyperbole and histrionics.
@37: Hello Paulie, I wondered when you were going to chime in with your usual pathetic drivel: “the best you can do is returning to england” - and those of Welsh descent? The Filipinos that have married into our way of life? The Chileans? Those of Scots descent? Those of Norwegian descent? Those descended from the French? The Russians? And those who were born in Argentina? Where do you want them to go?
Jul 25th, 2015 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once again you mention the “splendorous Argentine Sea”, I ask you once more, where is it?
You talk about the RG continental shelf, again.
Let's stay on subject and talk about UN Resolution 502, shall we? Do you even know what it is? I guess not, because it was something against the “spelndorous RG” invasion in '82.
What bothers me is that Filthy Filmus gets away with peddling lies all over the world and people might start believing the crap he spouts. His off produced a “newsletter” recently, of Falkland Islands news. I applied for a copy of it and after 6 weeks I still haven't been sent a copy! And I live here! He lies from the minute he opens his mouth to the moment he goes to sleep. Check out his FB page.
It was most revealing to observe Filmus, Kirchner’s little handbag carrier, in London a couple of months ago. He looked thoroughly miserable, sick and tired of “Malvinas, Malvinas, Malvinas.” Argentina’s fat ambassadress tried a couple of times to encourage him but without success and gave up. Filmus was left to wallow in his black depression. He realises he has wasted his life on a lost cause. Why don’t you get a proper job, Daniel, like clearing some of those stinking blocked sewers in central Buenos Aires? Pobrecito.
Jul 25th, 2015 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm afraid history may not be too kind on Snr Filmus. He puts me in mind of Comical Ali
Jul 25th, 2015 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37
Jul 25th, 2015 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stop mouthing off and prove it in the ICJ, numbnut.
@45
Jul 25th, 2015 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wouldn't waste your time on him. Just ignore him. He's not quite right in the head, poor little chap.
37 BottyBoypaulie II
Jul 25th, 2015 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the best you can do is returning to england.”
Aaaaahhhh Paulie, my dear brain dead enemy. Why ever would lsolde want to do anything like that???
Just by not moving she is a part of the UK. She is already in British sovereign territory.
The best thing you can do?
Go get a check up from the neck up, there's a lamb.
@37
Jul 25th, 2015 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“you lot are like foreign bodies there.
the best you can do is returning to England”
You too, can return to your European roots-hope your ancestors came from England as it can't be much fun returning to Spain.
pete boludo
Jul 25th, 2015 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0more than 1 million little englanders emigrated to spain, plus another half million to france and italy.
it seems that not even the englanders want to live in that swampy, humid, rainy and cold shithole, eh???
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@49
Jul 25th, 2015 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have just shown us that not many little englanders want to go to Utopia ( Argentina ) How many went to Argentina? Answer NONE so much for your Utopia. HaHa
Thousands of young, educated, professional Argentinians have fled their blessed country to live in Australia, the United States and, yes, even the hated England. There are lots in London and they are happy to give you a real insight into the catastrophic policies of the Kirchner cabal. And many more Argentinians back home are desperate to join them. Says everything about the Kirchner paradise. In the Thirties, Argentina was one of the world's top 10 most prosperous countries. Now it's down there with Zimbabwe and North Korea. Corruptina is doing a fantastic job. Keep it up, girl.
Jul 25th, 2015 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 051 imbecile
Jul 25th, 2015 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0of course a lot of argentinians have migrated in the last years thanks to kirchner economic policies.
what the fuck did you expect with kicillof managing the economy?
now, the vast majority of them have headed to spain, italy and france as always.
the number of argentinians in england is insignificant, you asshole.
@52
Jul 26th, 2015 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ooooooo! put your handbag away Paulina. ezekielman touched a nerve there I reckon.
Anyway, let's not dwell on your ire about being completely and totally 'owned' (Vis- being made a bitch by...) ezek's post there:
my previous reply to yours (@37) stands....if you would care to retort....if you dare....you spik, dago, hypocrite:
@37
“Foreign bodies? Hah! that's rich coming from an Argentinian, you're of European ancestry Paul so you've got no business getting on your high horse about how 'foreign' us Falkland Islanders are.
PS. and don't try to say you're a native South American, what with the genocide your country perpetrated it's pretty unlikely that you are.”
The UK must sit down and negotiate, there is not way out of this one.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0What I hear here, is just another wishful thinking, reality is something else.
You are a country of pirates and thieves, you build a short live empire with the blood of others.
Time is out, give back the stolen goods.
By the way, Britons are leaving the UK while “others” are moving silently in.
Mohamed is the second most popular name from the new born babies.
Negotiated before is too late!
53 whatapelotudo.com
Jul 26th, 2015 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0the only ones who have the stomach to migrate to little england come from pakistan, bangladesh,sierra leone, and shite like that.
what-a-pelotudo-you-are. com
Well that was quite racist.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0As if Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sierra Leoneans are not worthy of migrating or living in another country.
They're definitely not choosing to move to Argentina. Indeed, like Venezuela, Argentina is suffering a brain and capital drain. Those with the money and education are taking it to benefit another country.
Paul has neither so he has to stay.
Maximo for President!
@53
Jul 26th, 2015 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0We're not talking about whoever you might think migrates to England Paul but about us Falkland Islanders....you know...the people who have lived in the Falklands since before the genocidal, corrupt, feckless, Spanish, colony (now known as Argentina) existed.
Care to refute that you (murderous and corrupt yet lazy and feckless spiks (and of course whatever war criminals you've given shelter too)) have a better claim to a Spanish colony (now known as Argentina) of continental South America than we (the Falkland Islanders) do over the Falkland Islands?
Well Paulio? any comeback to that other than 'Eeeeeennnngliish Pirats!!!'
Bring it you useless dago, we're still sitting happy here in the Falkland Islands.
..I.,
@54 psql,
Jul 26th, 2015 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK don't have to “must” anything.
Argentina has NO RIGHTS here, none at all.
And there will be NO NEGOTIATIONS on OUR Sovereignty.
lf you can get those facts into your simple brain, then “maybe” we might talk to you.
So what would you like to talk about?
Trade, Shipping, the weather, Mr Jones's roses(thanks for that one, Briton, lol!).
Have you checked your own history, psql?
Thieves-
1) Argentina thieved Patagonia from the native peoples.
2) Argentina thieved land from Paraguay.
Blood of others-
1) Argentineans murdered Patagonian native people.
2) Argentineans murdered their OWN people in the Dirty War.
Your OWN people! l am flabbergasted.
How could ANYONE ever trust Argentina?
Do you seriously expect us to just deliver ourselves to your tender mercies?
You must be insane to expect so.
ldiota.
In its latest report, the IMF warns that Argentina’s economy will remain stagnant for years. It says: “The economy is growing at a very low rate, with an industrial and manufacturing sector that is almost paralysed. Private investment has also been very weak. The balance of payments is going through a delicate situation.”
Jul 26th, 2015 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0It goes on to warn that Argentina faces “multiple risks” because of the steady decline in commodity prices.
No wonder thousands of young Argentines are fleeing their country and look with envy at the Falkland Islands’ booming economy.
@49 Paulscanner
Jul 26th, 2015 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“more than 1 million little englanders emigrated to spain, ”
There's enough room in Spain for them and all the Spanish implants expected back from Argentina-so don't worry, you won't have to stay where you are, when the indigenous natives take their land back-boludo.
The difference between the Brits in Spain and the Spanish, (and their implants in Argentina that will have to return), is that the Brits bring money into the country (not worthless Pesos).
@50 Golfcronie
”You have just shown us that not many little englanders want to go to Utopia ( Argentina ) How many went to Argentina? Answer NONE so much for your Utopia“
A case of typing before engaging brain on Paul's part.
@52 Paulscanner
”now, the vast majority of them have headed to spain, italy “
Fair comment, so the implants are returning-but not enough to let the real Argentines have their land back. Still that is progress, credit where it is due.
@54psql
”The UK must sit down and negotiate”
They offered talks recently but Timmerman shat himself and would not attend.
Don't whine about the UK not talking, if you don't attend talks when invited to by the UK.
Argentina wants talks on its terms, but it doesn't hold any of the cards.
Based on resolution 2065, the impetus must be for Falkland Islander Independence, their interests and the talks must accord with the UN charter.
Argentina refuses all of these so if Argentina won't stick by 2065, why should the UK?
Besides which, 2065 requested Argentina and the UK to talk-it did not state that they must talk. Note the difference, which Argentines have a problem with comprehending.
And it specified peaceful terms -which Argentina (as usual) defied by starting a war. Which enabled the UK to use the Argentina doctrine of U. P. (the winner takes the land).
Greedy and corrupt governments who use other countries as an excuse, has no bounds of normality,
Jul 26th, 2015 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An example being the return of the Falkland's to Argentina,
And all of a sudden the brainwashed population sees a vast improvement of the country's economy and finances,
Argentina then becomes the riches nation in south America, thus proving it was the fault of the nasty islanders that was holding Argentina down,
Boxxock,
the truth is, if they every got the Falkland's, it would go to their heads, they would become super Argentina invincible untouchable and greedy for more,
who next would be on their hit list, Chile , Uruguay, Paraguay Brazil , Guyana
Argentina can never be trusted, when they lose, its always someone else's fault ,
if they are lucky enough to win, they want more and more, greed knows no bounds,
We don't see demonstrations in Argentina against the treatment of the islanders, or the abuse or insults, does this indicate they mostly all agree with the disgusting way CFK treats the islanders.
This deluded woman is still waiting for her illusive victory, and will keep pushing and pushing, until something or someone breaks,
in the 21st century we should all be living in peace, but as long as greed ambitious , dictatorships are abound, nothing or no one is safe.
And sooner or later someone will get hurt,
just my Sunday opinion.
one of the bennys / english wannabes accuses me of being racist...lol
Jul 26th, 2015 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hypocrites.
as i wisely said many times, england, their colony australia, and many other 4th class english colonies are the most racist and retrograde countries in the world:
“Pakistanis are eight times more likely to be victim of a racist attack than ”whites“”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/pakistanis-are-eight-times-more-likely-to-be-victim-of-a-racist-attack-than-whites-596594.html
“Avoid London, it's full of Pakistanis,' Romanians warn fellow migrants
ROMANIANS preparing to swamp Britain next year are insulting British towns and cities and making racist comments about fellow immigrants on the internet.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/pakistanis-are-eight-times-more-likely-to-be-victim-of-a-racist-attack-than-whites-596594.html
“Racism In England Against British Pakistanis”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/pakistanis-are-eight-times-more-likely-to-be-victim-of-a-racist-attack-than-whites-596594.html
“RACISM IN AUSTRALIA”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/pakistanis-are-eight-times-more-likely-to-be-victim-of-a-racist-attack-than-whites-596594.html
then the other benny-hillbilly shows his huge huge ignorance when saying:
”blablabla...us Falkland Islanders....you know...the people who have lived in the Falklands since before the genocidal, corrupt, feckless, Spanish, colony (now known as Argentina) existed.”
it seems the poor imbecile cannot differentiate between an independent country and a colony.
independent countries: argentina, uruguay, brazil, etc.
colonies: gibraltar, the islets, and the rest of that shite called bots.
and argentina exists as an independent country since 1810.
the poor imbecile cannot even do the maths.
Paulie- poor little chap - now please tell me:
Jul 26th, 2015 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When the Spanish COLONISTS arrived from Spain in the 1500 and 1600s and until 1810 -
Did they ask permission to land of the indigenous peoples of the River Plate area and further inland and up the central and northern Argentine provinces?
DID THEY OFFER TO BUY the land they settled on and claimed as Spanish territory- at a price offered by the indigenous peoples?
DID THEY?
If they did not - then they were aggressive COLONISTS who stole land that was not theirs.
General Rosas in the 1860s- 1880 - Did he ASK the Tehuelche and others whose home for thousands of years was Patagonia if they would freely let him take all their lands and murder them to extinction?
Did He? - and did they willingly say yes?
I suspect not - at thus he and Argentina put themselves into the history books as a foul and evil COLONIST land GRABBING nation.
Nobody disputes Argentina is an independent Nation- but just accept it - your ancestors STOLE from other people who had lived there for thousands of years whose land it was by right- and your Ancestors MURDERED most of them.
@63 lslander1,
Jul 26th, 2015 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't blind the idiot with the truth.
pauli is just so anti-British & just so stupid & foul mouthed, that his excuse for a brain will go into overload & explode if you confuse him.
He is a real wanker.
@ 62:“as i wisely said many times,”. Paulie there's nothing wise about anything you say.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Australia isn't a colony. Hasn't been for a while.
“it seems the poor imbecile cannot differentiate between an independent country and a colony”. You said it!
The word is spelt “aesthete”, by the way and do you actually know what the word “wannabe” means? I note you use it often, and out of context every time.
I note elsewhere that you prize yourself on being polite, tolerant and intelligent. Can you let us know when these times might be? Because you strike me as anything but.
Argentina was a Spanish colony. That's how it became populated by a bunch of implants.
You really are one of the most odious, ill-educated, discourteous, xenophobic people I have ever come across.
But I love reading the cack you post. Please keep it up!!
Following Argentine logic, the former Axis powers should ask the UN to punish the Allies for winning the war that followed Nazi/Soviet invasion of Poland.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 062@
Jul 27th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is in line for the IRON CROSS
As the famous Argentine politician, Mauricio Macri once said,
Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”“I never quite understood the sovereignty claims of such as big country as ours. We don't have a space problem such as Israel, for example”.
Thank you!
@62
Jul 28th, 2015 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0No one said there weren't racists in England, of course there are there, are racist idiots everywhere. Don't really see how that should prevent someone from calling out someone that is racist on this forum. “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
62 Polly prejudice
Jul 28th, 2015 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol.
The Trolls are so lazy - yet again, they don't read their links - just the headlines.
ThePrejudice against immigrants in Britain, that Polly linked to, is the prejudice that the Romsnisn new arrivals practise towards the Pakistanis who have been there for generations.
toy pelotudo
Jul 28th, 2015 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0can you be more pelotudo my dear toy?
i strongly doubt it.
you are the champion of the pelotudos.
almost 40% of the british people recognizes they are a racist country.
and 40%, my dear pelotudo toy, is a fucking lot.
got it?
“Racism on the rise in Britain
Exclusive: British Social Attitudes survey finds proportion of people in the UK who say they are racially prejudiced has risen since 2001”
almost 40% of the british people recognizes they are a racist country
Jul 28th, 2015 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can you provide proof and links please.
72 Briton
Jul 28th, 2015 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And what is Pablo's reason for wanting the Islanders “out of South America”?
They are not of Spanish or Italian descent - bigotry, racial prejudice!
Pablo/Think,
Tell me it isn't so!!
true.
Jul 28th, 2015 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@71 Does your poll speak for the whole of britain?
Jul 28th, 2015 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wasnt asked in this poll and im guessing millions more werent so were does that leave your poll?? or are you painting all britains with the same brush, makes you wonder who is the smaller minded, those who believe and preach polls of the very VERY few or those who make them.
Newsflash for you, every race has an element of racism, non more than any other, and quite impossible to measure.
A serial killer lives in a house, does that make his entire street full of serial killers?? with your logic it does.
READ AND LEARN, IGNORANT BENNY-HILLBILLIES:
Jul 29th, 2015 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Racism 'on the rise' in UK with 1 in 3 people admitting prejudice”
According to the 2013 British Social Attitudes Survey, nearly a third of people in Britain admitted being racist on some level. In 2001, that figure was just 25 per cent and researchers believe little headway is being made to tackle bigotry.
Again
Jul 29th, 2015 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0prove it, and supply the link.
britonto
Jul 29th, 2015 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are not very bright, no?
copy and paste the quote and google it, you ignoramus
@76: Last time I went to school Paulie, 1/3 was only 30%. I think you'll find that your figure is incorrect though.
Jul 29th, 2015 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which is a lot better than the 87 1/2% of RGs being racist.
Got it?
78 paulcedron II
Jul 29th, 2015 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey thanks, what a brilliant time- saving idea. I'm going to use it in my next paper; everywhere there should be a citation, I'm going to write 'Copy and paste the quote and google it, you ignoramus'.
Actually, no, because that would be plagiarism.
You're not very bright, are you?
@78 who admitted prejudice? names? when? where? you cant prove it because its impossible to prove as you would have to ask everyone in britain wouldnt you silly,
Jul 29th, 2015 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0unless you are taring all british? what does that make you? Ignorant??
and there are all different types of prejudice some more extreme than others,
its a non-news survey at best. you can base your knowledge on polls if you like.
But I will sleep well tonight wihtout fear of a racist attack.
78 think
Jul 29th, 2015 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's up to you to prove your quotes exist if you want to make a point, not up to us to copy and Google every utterance from your ignorant gob, and then guess the context you used.
It's up to you to prove s quote exists, and then show its relevance by your source.
Actually, it's quite funny how many times you quote a sensational headline, and it turns out to be groundless speculation from Alicia Castro or the Guardian - not really helping your case.
You are lazier than Marcos - that's a real insult.
78 paulcedron
Jul 30th, 2015 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you don't have to be bright to understand the truth,
but you aint very clever by refusing to show link,
just goes to show you lie...
PeDo
Jul 31st, 2015 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Last time I went to school Paulie, 1/3 was only 30%”
and what school was that?
the pork stanley community school?
now i understand..., cause 1/3 = 33.333333333333333333333 %.
anyway, read the whole article, lazy PeDo.
40% of the british are racist.
84 PeDo Paul
Jul 31st, 2015 - 05:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0``40% of the british are racist.``
Says the racist Argentine Supremest, Pablo!!
@84 Think,
Jul 31st, 2015 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares, Think?
You apply what labels that you like.
l can say that 100% of RGs are deluded, but l am pretty sure that thats not correct.
lts probably more like 95%.
lol, lol, lolz
“ALADI chair Alvarez pointed out that “the Malvinas Islands claim is inexorably becoming a Latin American cause”.
Jul 31st, 2015 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0How can it be 'becoming' a Latin American cause when most of the looney latin's governments have supported this claim for many years?
So is this a restart? Has the car broke down and had to be fixed?
It's no good having a cause if it's a lost cause.
It's not a valid cause, it's a deflection, to avoid showing how badly these governments run their countries.
”And Argentines sleep soundly from 12 to 1, but Englishmen detest a, siesta”
Probably why we are more advanced, even if it is mad to go out in the midday sun.
“The Malvinas Islands claim is inexorably bcoming a Latin American clause”.
Jul 31st, 2015 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I beg to differ. Alvarez is either lying or he's completely unaware of what real people think. Most haven't even heard of the “Malvinas”, and those who have are laughing.
RES 2065
Aug 01st, 2015 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Noting the existence of a dispute between the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland concerning sovereignty over the said Islands,
1. Invites the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to proceed without delay with the negotiations recommended by the Special Committe on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples with a view to finding a peaceful solution to the problem, bearing in mind the provisions and objectives of the charter of the United Nations and of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) and the interests of the population of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas);
2. Requests the two Governments to report to the Special Committe and to the General Assembly at its twenty-first session on the results of the negotiations.
It seems ridiculous to consider the Falklands a colony but Argentina seems to. At any rate, it also seems that Argentina totally missed this phrase in 2065:
“Granting of Independence ”
Did the Falklands not have a referendum vote? I think 2065 is so ingrained in the Argentine mind that the latter generations do not even know the wording of it.
Invited to talk
Granting indepedence
I am not sure of anyone else, but like deflategate and the Jenner story, I an really getting tired of hearing old meaning shit stories. Argentines, I suggest you grow a pair of balls and take it to the ICJ or shut up and fade away, because this story also is getting old. It's all in the hands of Argentina to move on and yet they continue to refuse to take it to the ICJ. Speaks volumes in and of itself, this lack of action on their part.
Filmus is an interesting sample of an ignorant malvinazi “diplomat.”
Aug 02nd, 2015 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
@89 Captain Poppy
Aug 02nd, 2015 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is important to keep quoting 2065, as there is no way that any intelligent person can miss what appear to be the most important factors:
“with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples ”
“bearing in mind the provisions and objectives of the charter of the United Nations ”
“ and the interests of the population of the Falkland Islands ”
How these favour Argentina is anyone's guess.
“2. Requests the two Governments to report to the Special Committe and to the General Assembly at its twenty-first session on the results of the negotiations.”
Presumably this 21st session has long past so it is a mystery why Argentina still thinks this is relevant.
Well pointed out about the emphasis on Independence.
It can reasonable be assumed that the UN in 2065 want the UK to cede power to the Islanders,(decolonisation) not to Argentina.
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