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Falklands' trawlers under investigation for alleged misreported catches
Three Falkland Islands fishing vessels' owner/operators were ordered by the Supreme Court to pay £200.000 security bonds to return to sea while investigations are ongoing on potential anomalies on their catches and species reports. The value of the vessels range between one and 3.5 million pounds. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCue unemployed Paul......
Jul 25th, 2015 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Honest guvnor, it was Argie fish!
Jul 25th, 2015 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah!
Jul 25th, 2015 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0The communist wanted to sieze and control private properties and scare honest businessman Venezula style eh!
Who would like to apply for a license or invst in a place where they threat you to go in jail for certain an involutary mistake???
Don't do they have self determination to conduct their business as they please like in the free world?
“Who would like to apply for a license or invst in a place where they threat you to go in jail for certain an involutary mistake???”
Jul 25th, 2015 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ummmm all those investors in the Falkland Islands I guess.
@3. What would you know about the free world?
Jul 25th, 2015 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Danny - You do do not“involuntary” end up with US$300,000 value of fish in your hold as an accidental bycatch!!
Jul 25th, 2015 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0That fish was nicked from somewhere - otherwise it would have been declared and reported.
I understand though- in Argentina a few US$ to the fisheries officials from the vessel captain - and all is overlooked.
Here we work to a different set of rules.
Over fishing is wiping out entire species. Too bad so many don't understand what we are doing!
Jul 25th, 2015 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@6. What if it's a whale?
Jul 25th, 2015 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please explain how you 'nick' a fish? I'm assuming these vessels are trawlers. The net is hauled and the catch is dumped into a refrigerated hold. Wouldn't it be dangerous to go into the hold and try to sort through the fish? Assume the fish is dead. Is there any point in throwing it overboard? There's been an argument in the EU for years about 'discards'. Shouldn't it be okay if it's dead and can be eaten?
@8
Jul 25th, 2015 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know absolutely know nothing about the trawling industry but if the relevant authority ( Directorate of Fisheries ) think it worth investigating then something is amiss. I interpret from your post that you are a trawler Captain as you obviously know the subject.
@golfcronie
Jul 25th, 2015 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WellI guess that you don't have to be a captain of nothing to arrive to the conclusion that to thoughing a dead fish into the see again have no sense at all.
Conq and DanyB - I agree with the farce in fishing in the EU- BUT as Falklands has its own system I am assuming ours has avoided the stupid bits of EU bureocrats and if you catch a small amount of something else by accident - then as long as you promptly declare it, it will be accepted.
Jul 25th, 2015 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BUT - try to hide it - and immediately it gets suspicious!¬ That IS Common Sense!
3 DanyBerger
Jul 25th, 2015 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations Dany!!!! You are 1st!! with the WRONG answer.
Please read what the others have posted as they are not the ones who are educationally challenged.
What Supreme court...?
Jul 26th, 2015 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@13 The one in the FALKLANDS which also happens to be the able to dispense “ justice” in the area unlike in Latam countries. You know it makes sense.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 06:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah I'm unsure what is so confusing about the Falkland Islands Supreme Court.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Simon Bryan QC was sworn in as the Chief Justice on May 8th.
15 skip
Jul 26th, 2015 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0voice is likely lining himself up for another pedantic rant
@11. Let me ask more questions so it's clear in my mind. Fishing vessel comes into port and docks. Are the fish put into boxes? If they are, where are they boxed, on the quayside or on the vessel? Where are they bought and sold? Which fish species can be hidden under other species AND where the buyer won't be annoyed at finding a different species at the bottom of the box? Seems to me that it's a problem easily resolved by having inspectors at the appropriate point. How many fishing vessels are there? Surely they can't all arrive at the same time?
Jul 26th, 2015 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Conqueror
Jul 26th, 2015 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Idiots seems after the fish is packed they made vessels drop it into the sea again.
Just wonder if the take boxes first for the cartoneros. haha
@18. SHUT YOUR STUPID FACE.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 017- Fish is cleaned and boxed and frozen on the trawlers. If a controlled species(ie specific tonnage only per licence like toothfish) - boxes are offloaded into containers in Stanley counted and checked by Fisheries Staff and shipped out to wherever the market is.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Other less tightly controlled species- loaded to freezer cargo ships in the outer harbour or again into containers at the dock but just with the vessells or their port agents logging boxes etc. That info then should tally with catch records - if it does not - then we know what can happen!
Yes what happens is they end up in front of the Supreme Court, Dany can't make a coherent point and Voice gets confused about what a Supreme Court is.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha! thought so....Supreme court my ass....
Jul 26th, 2015 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”The Supreme Court of the Falkland Islands has unlimited jurisdiction to hear and determine any civil or criminal proceedings, and consists of the Chief Justice (CJ) who is generally a senior barrister or solicitor with a good amount of judicial experience in the United Kingdom. The CJ is not resident in the Falkland Islands but travels to the islands if and when necessary to hear cases.”
...It's English justice....dispensed by an English Barrister that doesn't live there...
Self determination my ass....
It's a colony.....
Voice- Sorry to spoil your day-Wrong. the Chief Justice in the Spreme Court of the Falkland Islands- administers Justice under the Laws of the Falkland Islands NOT those of UK - got it.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only if there is no Falklands Law in an issue - then yes UK Law will be taken to apply - in the case of Fisheries there are Falklands Laws.
Where does he travel from and what is his nationality...?
Jul 27th, 2015 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0...I'm guessing English and England...;-)))))
“There are only a few criminal cases which must be heard before the Supreme Court; these are murder, manslaughter, rape, piracy, treason and arson with the intent to endanger life. ”
Oh and err stealing fish...apparently....
Rule Britannia ...Britannia rules you all....
...colony....
23 Islander1
Jul 27th, 2015 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0What did I say @16 ??
“voice is likely lining himself up for another pedantic rant”
yawn.. wind-up artist
@Conqueror
Jul 27th, 2015 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mohammed be quiet, if I say jump you just say how much higher shsssssssss....
@16
Jul 27th, 2015 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yep sport on.
What companies?
Jul 27th, 2015 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 024 Voice
Jul 27th, 2015 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're a complete tool.
Can you honestly not see why it might be appropriate for a small community to bring in legal expertise from outside sometimes, or are you acting like an idiot because you like it when people abuse you?
No...all I can see is another case of the Falklands being ruled by English Law...
Jul 28th, 2015 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you saying that no one in the Isles is capable of making a judgement...?
The question you should be asking is why does the Chief Justice have to be from England and who implemented this...?
Man up make your own rulings and or mistakes....
This is the reason why the Falklands is still on the C24 list....
Anything important and you have to rely on Blighty....
Where else would he be from, moron?
Jul 28th, 2015 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0@30
Jul 28th, 2015 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Because there are a limited number of people with law degrees in the Falklands so we employ people from outside of the Falklands and as Falklands law is based on UK law it makes more sense to employ someone from England than from the Sudan.
There is also the fact that if the CJ was/lived local in such a small community sooner or later there would be a good chance of him having a conflict of interest due to knowing the defendant.
30 Voice
Jul 28th, 2015 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I suppose we could bring in someone from Rwanda, but they probably wouldn't have a very good understanding of Falkland Islands law, would they.
The main response I have to your comments is a resounding 'Meh'. I don't expect you to understand anything about it, but your persistent interference smacks of neo-colonialism to me. Your opinion is not required.
The reason the Falklands is still considered by the C24 is that we want it to be. It forces your numbskull politicians to talk to Falkland Islanders, and that is considered to be worthwhile.
Poor Voice. Made himself look like a fool and then as is usual covered it up by ranting and raving.
Jul 29th, 2015 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The question you should be asking is why does the Chief Justice have to be from England and who implemented this...?”
Why does he have to be from “England”?
Why do you make stuff up?
https://jac.judiciary.gov.uk/sites/default/files/sync/basic_page/chief_justice_job_profile.doc
QUALIFICATIONS FOR APPOINTMENT
1. An applicant for the office of Chief Justice must be, or have been, a judge of a court of unlimited jurisdiction in civil and criminal matters in some part of the Commonwealth or in Ireland, or of a court having jurisdiction in appeals from any such court; or
2. Be entitled to practise as an advocate in such a court and has been entitled for not less than ten years to practise as an advocate or as a solicitor in such a court.
England?
Seems the PD disagrees with you Voice.
FAIL!
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